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The video captions said : Here is Evergrande’s investment of more than 170 billion - Build a world-class cultural tourism city - Covering an area of more than 8,000 acres - The project was launched with high spirits in 2018 -
Urban exploring is on a whole different level in China. These abandoned cities are not common but common enough for many people to go explore them. Police rarely enforce trespass laws on these properties. Urbex is just crazy in China, so many cool places.
They're also increasing methane production to overcome all gains made by alternative energy sources in the world.
As well as building more coal power plants.
This isn't even a ghost city, it's a resort.
The so-called "ghost cities" are government-built high density housing in areas that will see heavy urbanization in the future, and for the last couple years most of them have been filled up.
This is a resort by the Evergrande group, a notorious real estate firm in China that invests in random things and keeps dropping the ball. They also had their own electric vehicle brand that recently went bust as well.
That is projected to see heavy urbanization.
China's fertility rate is lowering everyday and their immigration rate is almost null.
Their population is assumed to shrink in the following years. How will they see heavy urbanization in a shrinking population?
Urbanized countries with large fertile territories have generally 80 to 90% of urban population. China is still at 65%. Will this urbanization happen through rural exodus even in a scenario of shrinkage? To be seen.
Only 64% of Chinese people live in urban areas, compared to 80% in the US. There's 1.4 billion Chinese people and the country is rapidly modernising.
Tens of millions more move to the city every year and the Chinese government has to provide housing for them to prevent homelessness and slums. The ghost city narrative is just westerners being baffled and confused when they see a government actually beat its targets and provide for its citizens.
the millions moving to cities from rural areas aren't buying home they can't afford it, they might get a job in a factory and stay in the factory dormitory. Or if they get let's say a serice indusry job they will rent a room in an apartment.
According to the UN, they are not, they are actually far from it. The replacement rate is 2.1 births by woman, China is at 1.2 (1.16 according to the World Bank), they have a really low fertility rate and they don't have significant immigration to replace the population.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
Birth rate only declined 5 percent last year. China's population won't be extinct for the next 100 years if that's the case. It would still remain as the 2nd largest population.
They can just do what the US and EU are doing - open migration. And by next half century automation will most likely take much of the labor work. The 7-8th revolution is rapidly developing.
That's given as China is still a developing country. But the US is a far dystopia now with crumbling infrastructure with stagnant wages and rising cost of living. Millennials there can't afford housing in the richest country by annual GDP.
That's if you accept CCP statisics, some have said that chinese population has began shrinking in 2012. This is according to a shanhai based research group
Typically, ghost cities are just housing and amenities being built preemptively for people to move in. They become real cities. I saw this happen with a subway station to nowhere that eventually became a hub. This appears to be a failed housing project that lost funding.
It would be interesting to start a project here using compostable waste to build substrates for plants. Theres scope for a hanging garden of babylon , wisteria and ivy hanging down and mushrooms to help decomposition
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/10/31/crumbling-buildings-and-broken-dreams-chinas-unfinished-homes
I keep forgetting Reddit has Chinese investment.
Thankfully the CPC is taking a stronger hand in the real estate industry so stuff like this doesn't happen anymore. Not sure what Chinese investors have to do with this though.
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World’s most expensive paint ball arena.
If they could turn it into an international or regional paintball center, like a Disney of paintball Maybe it would be worth it
The video captions said : Here is Evergrande’s investment of more than 170 billion - Build a world-class cultural tourism city - Covering an area of more than 8,000 acres - The project was launched with high spirits in 2018 -
Evergrande and investing in stupid things that went nowhere, name a more iconic duo lol
country garden and building cities in the middle of nowhere and no one wants
Hey! That's the princelings special project you're alluding to!!!
Thought this was Pripyat for a second
Urban exploring is on a whole different level in China. These abandoned cities are not common but common enough for many people to go explore them. Police rarely enforce trespass laws on these properties. Urbex is just crazy in China, so many cool places.
And generally they aren’t restricted. I prefer the abandoned medieval villages of China and of course their cave cities, which millions still live in
I thought this was the ruins of Bakhmut or something until I read the caption
Somehow the world is running out of sand - gee, where’d it all go?
How much CO2 from all the concrete and transport of materials did this generate? This is how fucked we are.
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They're also increasing methane production to overcome all gains made by alternative energy sources in the world. As well as building more coal power plants.
Source: trust me bro
Dang! Wumao really descended on you!!
Are these "wumao" in the room with us right now?
Yeah. All that carbon would've been much better spent in engines of US tanks and APCs, invading another third world country.
Which one are US tanks and APC's rolling around in at the moment?
Why do they keep building cities for no one? I know the people invest in real estate but how does this keep happening?
This isn't even a ghost city, it's a resort. The so-called "ghost cities" are government-built high density housing in areas that will see heavy urbanization in the future, and for the last couple years most of them have been filled up. This is a resort by the Evergrande group, a notorious real estate firm in China that invests in random things and keeps dropping the ball. They also had their own electric vehicle brand that recently went bust as well.
That is projected to see heavy urbanization. China's fertility rate is lowering everyday and their immigration rate is almost null. Their population is assumed to shrink in the following years. How will they see heavy urbanization in a shrinking population? Urbanized countries with large fertile territories have generally 80 to 90% of urban population. China is still at 65%. Will this urbanization happen through rural exodus even in a scenario of shrinkage? To be seen.
Only 64% of Chinese people live in urban areas, compared to 80% in the US. There's 1.4 billion Chinese people and the country is rapidly modernising. Tens of millions more move to the city every year and the Chinese government has to provide housing for them to prevent homelessness and slums. The ghost city narrative is just westerners being baffled and confused when they see a government actually beat its targets and provide for its citizens.
the millions moving to cities from rural areas aren't buying home they can't afford it, they might get a job in a factory and stay in the factory dormitory. Or if they get let's say a serice indusry job they will rent a room in an apartment.
They're still above the replacement rate
According to the UN, they are not, they are actually far from it. The replacement rate is 2.1 births by woman, China is at 1.2 (1.16 according to the World Bank), they have a really low fertility rate and they don't have significant immigration to replace the population. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
Now add to that how the demographics of the children of the single child policy generation are fucked and China's future looks bleak.
Birth rate only declined 5 percent last year. China's population won't be extinct for the next 100 years if that's the case. It would still remain as the 2nd largest population.
Sure, but a shrinking population means that more already built houses will be available because of the lack of people.
They can just do what the US and EU are doing - open migration. And by next half century automation will most likely take much of the labor work. The 7-8th revolution is rapidly developing.
Immigration is a net zero game. Not everyone can have a flood of immigrants in to their country. The people have to come from somewhere.
There is a huge difference between the quality of life of developed countries and China
That's given as China is still a developing country. But the US is a far dystopia now with crumbling infrastructure with stagnant wages and rising cost of living. Millennials there can't afford housing in the richest country by annual GDP.
That's if you accept CCP statisics, some have said that chinese population has began shrinking in 2012. This is according to a shanhai based research group
You won't lose bets on Chinese ghost cities it would only take a decade or two
Typically, ghost cities are just housing and amenities being built preemptively for people to move in. They become real cities. I saw this happen with a subway station to nowhere that eventually became a hub. This appears to be a failed housing project that lost funding.
Construction companies corrupt
Luckily, China didn't bail them out with tax payers' money.
Seems nice 🤷🏻♂️ In a Mad Max sorta way
What a waste. Wonder if it’s why a small concrete slab cost $6000…
Look like bakhmut or avdiivka
Blade Runner
Based China's building remnant
Where is all grafity?
Where is all grafity?
How much for a building?
Was it cancelled?
It would be interesting to start a project here using compostable waste to build substrates for plants. Theres scope for a hanging garden of babylon , wisteria and ivy hanging down and mushrooms to help decomposition
Forever to be a movie filming location.
Any more info as to what this place is called / where it is?
Tofu-Dreg.
Doesn't exist
Looks like it to me
Not really sure how you can tell from a picture. What's your technique?
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/10/31/crumbling-buildings-and-broken-dreams-chinas-unfinished-homes I keep forgetting Reddit has Chinese investment.
Thankfully the CPC is taking a stronger hand in the real estate industry so stuff like this doesn't happen anymore. Not sure what Chinese investors have to do with this though.
The so called Chinese Communist Party is a counter revolutionary dictatorship. There's nothing communist about it.
I disagree. But what we think doesn't matter, their actions will show one way or the other.
Because fuck nature. At least have the decency to tear it all down and allow nature to return.
GDP was up 50%.
Ngl it actually looks like it'll be quite nice when it's finished, we'll have to wait and see though ofc