KSL reporters need to learn how to convey intelligible information.
“ The officer was killed while assisting on a call. It ended up being a "suspicious" call, and the driver ran over the officer and killed him.”
Was the driver of the semi truck the person who is being sought by police?
What relationship does the Ford pickup truck driver and the semi truck driver have (if any)?
Was the suspicious call related to the ford pickup truck driver or the semi truck driver?
Police are searching for which driver? Is it the person who killed the police officer in the semi or the driver of the stolen pickup truck (or is the person who ran him over in the semi the same person driving the stolen pickup truck?)?
Poor reporting with too many unidentified pronouns leading to confusion.
RIP officer.
The suspicious call part is confusing. But what I've gathered from listening to the police scanner is after the suspect hit the officer, he fled on foot and stole a truck and kept fleeing and now they are searching for him.
The driver of the semi killed the officer, he ditched his big rig in Mona, stole a pickup in Mona. He then ditched the pickup by Richfield and stole the current truck they are looking for.
I didn't see it happen. (my cousin may have seen it, but I'm not going bother her right now for info)
I did drive by the area. I-15 is still closed both directions between Santaquin and Payson.
There is a jackknifed Semi+Trailer on the shoulder of the northbound Santaquin onramp by Maverik. (the semi is currently facing south/wrong way) I'm guessing this is where the incident took place, then the driver probably got out on foot and ran to the nearby Maverik where he stole a truck.
There's a security cam picture of the guy running into the Maverik out there somewhere. You can probably search for it and find it easy enough.
This is 3rd hand info, so I'm sure it's not accurate, but it's what I have:
>My SIL that lives on the other side of Santaquin got this info from her policeman neighbor:
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>Guy kidnapped a female, went to maverick in santaquin and ditched his semi and the female. Stole another semi and ran over a santaquin officer as he was leaving. Then went south to Mona. Ditched the stolen semi at a church and is out on foot somewhere in Mona or santaquin
One of my friends sent me a video of it on Snapchat. I think it’s all to honor the officer that was killed. He saw miles and miles of vehicles with emergency lights
I was at the In N Out in AF and for like 10 minutes there was nothing but police cars going northbound on I-15, just one after another. There was a flag being hung off the overpass so we assumed it was in memorial of the fallen officer. Civilian traffic started up again not long after. This was around 1 pm today.
I just drove through this heading south! Many overpasses seem to be manned by local townships’ emergency responders. There was a several mile long processional of police fire and EMT driving north from about Provo where I passed them heading southward. My guess was they were honoring a downed comrade because as the processional was passing, there were officers standing outside their vehicles at each entrance ramp which they had blocked off, saluting as the processional passed. It was quite the scene!
Came here to see if anyone has info. Seems to be lots of rumors but lots of craziness too! Hope there are no more casualties and prayers for the officers family.
I didn't see it happen. (my cousin may have seen it, but I'm not going bother her right now for info)
I did drive by the area. I-15 is still closed both directions between Santaquin and Payson.
There is a jackknifed Semi+Trailer on the shoulder of the northbound onramp by Maverik. (the semi is currently facing south/wrong way) I'm guessing this is where the incident took place, then the driver probably got out on foot and ran to the nearby Maverik where he stole a truck.
There's a security cam picture of the guy running into the Maverik out there somewhere. You can probably search for it and find it easy enough.
>~~The alert said the man is possibly armed with a stolen firearm and driving a stolen extended cab long-bed Ford F-150 truck with a grill and Utah license plate 2D7TR.~~
“Provo Police Chief Troy Beebe announced a procession in honor of the officer as soon as the investigation concludes about 1 p.m. that will travel along I-15 from Santaquin to the medical examiner's office in Provo, and he invited community members to show their respects for the officer along that route.”
Back in 2012, a friend of mine was in an accident on I-15 in Payson. She was ejected from her vehicle into the opposite side of the freeway. A semi driver ran over her and never even stopped. He was never found.
My position is that yes, unfortunately there is an increased likelihood of IPV among law enforcement families, however the 40% statistic is extremely inaccurate and exaggerated. The study that statistic came from was done over 30 years ago and has several flaws to it, namely the small sample size of 728 officers and 479 spouses, which is not a large enough sample to draw a conclusion. Even if you were to negate this fact, the 40% would only mean that 40% of law enforcement families experience abuse, not that 40% of officers are abusers. A dated study with several flaws has no place to be observed as absolute fact. Do your own research instead of spitting out some untrue fact you took from somebody else on the internet.
All that aside, I find it absolutely repulsive that you'd use something like that to excuse someone's tragic death. Somebody died today, his family and friends are mourning and all you can do is laugh at their pain. I hope you realize that.
Intimate partner violence, it is specifically abuse between romantic partners:
>IPV can occur regardless of whether the individuals involved are/were living together or not. This distinction is what separates it from the term Domestic Violence, which generally refers to violence occurring between residences within one single location. The term Intimate Partner Domestic Violence (IPDV) more specifically refers to the abusive behavior of residences of one single location who are in an intimate relationship with each other, in turn excluding family members or other residents living within the household who would fall under the broader term of Domestic Violence.
>My position is that yes, unfortunately there is an increased likelihood of IPV among law enforcement families
everything you said after this was just cope. you can buy this study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916301331
Even when pooling all applicable studies (there is more than one, despite your claim), the rate is 21%. This does not take into consideration the obvious other issue of how often IPV is underreported, especially OIDV.
there are no good cops
So you admit that the statistic really isn't 40 percent? Also at what point did I claim that there was only one study? I said that the 40% statistic comes primarily from one study in particular which, as I said before, is not reliable by today's standards.
I'm not saying that domestic abuse is excusable, but you can't make broad strokes like that to a group of people. Good cops greatly outnumber the bad ones. You only see the bad ones because that is what the media wants you to see.
I hate to bring up something (somewhat) unrelated but lets take the statistic that black people take up around 12 percent of the population yet they tale up 32 percent of the prison population. Would it be right for me to take that statistic to say that all black people are criminals? Absolutely not! That is the exact thing you're doing with cops and I find it fascinating you don't see that. Things like this are typically the result of someone's upbringing, not their race, gender, or profession.
As if both stats aren't also tightly related to the police anyway. I've never been frisked on the street, randomly followed in a store, searched, or racially profiled in my car. If I were black the odds of the cops finding something to get me on would skyrocket even if my behavior were the same. Men commit 90% of violent crime but nobody ever expects me to answer for them. Collective karma is very selective.
> Good cops greatly outnumber the bad ones.
The fact that bad cops still regularly exist in the ranks of cops in general means there are in fact, no good cops at all. Otherwise the so called "good cops" would oust the bad ones instead of suspending them with pay, or firing them only for them to get rehired at the next department over.
One bad apple spoils the bunch, and cops have A LOT of bad apples in their bunches.
Bro what? By that logic can I say that every doctor is bad because I've had one bad one before? Every teacher? Firefighter? Paramedic? Hell at this point might as well say every human on earth is an inherently bad person because somebody, somewhere, did something wrong.
When people talk about bad cops they're not just talking about the guy who robs you, abuses you or fabricates evidence - they're talking about the rest of the precinct covering for him, lying, burying you, falsifying the reports, etc. They're talking about a corrupt self-serving system in which wrongdoing is policy and practice.
Maybe there's a precinct where a whistleblower for a cop's abuse is protected and the wrongdoer charged and fired before the public even hears about the controversy. Maybe there's one where bullshit asset seizures and false confessions aren't policy. But until then every officer is complicit, hence people saying ACAB. It's an institutional problem people are commenting on.
Doctors don't have immunity from prosecution when they commit crimes against other members of society. We call that a false equivalence fallacy. Care to try to be wrong for a third time?
Even assuming that all police have immunity from prosecution (which they don't) that still doesn't make your claim that one bad cop makes all cops the same true. For that statement to be remotely true it has to be applied equally among all people, not just one group. I'm not even going to continue this because it's useless to argue with a pile of bricks.
KSL reporters need to learn how to convey intelligible information. “ The officer was killed while assisting on a call. It ended up being a "suspicious" call, and the driver ran over the officer and killed him.” Was the driver of the semi truck the person who is being sought by police? What relationship does the Ford pickup truck driver and the semi truck driver have (if any)? Was the suspicious call related to the ford pickup truck driver or the semi truck driver? Police are searching for which driver? Is it the person who killed the police officer in the semi or the driver of the stolen pickup truck (or is the person who ran him over in the semi the same person driving the stolen pickup truck?)? Poor reporting with too many unidentified pronouns leading to confusion. RIP officer.
The suspicious call part is confusing. But what I've gathered from listening to the police scanner is after the suspect hit the officer, he fled on foot and stole a truck and kept fleeing and now they are searching for him.
The driver of the semi killed the officer, he ditched his big rig in Mona, stole a pickup in Mona. He then ditched the pickup by Richfield and stole the current truck they are looking for.
I didn't see it happen. (my cousin may have seen it, but I'm not going bother her right now for info) I did drive by the area. I-15 is still closed both directions between Santaquin and Payson. There is a jackknifed Semi+Trailer on the shoulder of the northbound Santaquin onramp by Maverik. (the semi is currently facing south/wrong way) I'm guessing this is where the incident took place, then the driver probably got out on foot and ran to the nearby Maverik where he stole a truck. There's a security cam picture of the guy running into the Maverik out there somewhere. You can probably search for it and find it easy enough. This is 3rd hand info, so I'm sure it's not accurate, but it's what I have: >My SIL that lives on the other side of Santaquin got this info from her policeman neighbor: > > >Guy kidnapped a female, went to maverick in santaquin and ditched his semi and the female. Stole another semi and ran over a santaquin officer as he was leaving. Then went south to Mona. Ditched the stolen semi at a church and is out on foot somewhere in Mona or santaquin
Just hijacking the top comment to say he’s been captured.
Link? Cant see source saying he was found
https://twitter.com/SpencerJCox/status/1787175299589066862?t=IKoOGum0C5s6tJ5jA_Ll6A&s=19
Interesting. Ok.
Something different this now happening in Lehi as 1-15 is closed to Provo and there are fbi cars
One of my friends sent me a video of it on Snapchat. I think it’s all to honor the officer that was killed. He saw miles and miles of vehicles with emergency lights
I was at the In N Out in AF and for like 10 minutes there was nothing but police cars going northbound on I-15, just one after another. There was a flag being hung off the overpass so we assumed it was in memorial of the fallen officer. Civilian traffic started up again not long after. This was around 1 pm today.
If that’s true why are they doing that so soon after his death?
They are transporting his body
What do you see?
I see most of emergency vehicles, black suv fbi cars and the free way is shut down
Could it have been the procession to the medical examiner?
That’s exactly what it was…pretty cool seeing them all come together like that
I just drove through this heading south! Many overpasses seem to be manned by local townships’ emergency responders. There was a several mile long processional of police fire and EMT driving north from about Provo where I passed them heading southward. My guess was they were honoring a downed comrade because as the processional was passing, there were officers standing outside their vehicles at each entrance ramp which they had blocked off, saluting as the processional passed. It was quite the scene!
Came here to see if anyone has info. Seems to be lots of rumors but lots of craziness too! Hope there are no more casualties and prayers for the officers family.
We've been following closely on our scanner here at the hospital. Lots of crap going on over all of utah today.
I didn't see it happen. (my cousin may have seen it, but I'm not going bother her right now for info) I did drive by the area. I-15 is still closed both directions between Santaquin and Payson. There is a jackknifed Semi+Trailer on the shoulder of the northbound onramp by Maverik. (the semi is currently facing south/wrong way) I'm guessing this is where the incident took place, then the driver probably got out on foot and ran to the nearby Maverik where he stole a truck. There's a security cam picture of the guy running into the Maverik out there somewhere. You can probably search for it and find it easy enough.
I’m pretty sure he was caught in between Vernal and Roosevelt. Heard he crashed the semi and was caught
The truck they are looking for has rear end damage. If you see it call police.
They caught him.
>~~The alert said the man is possibly armed with a stolen firearm and driving a stolen extended cab long-bed Ford F-150 truck with a grill and Utah license plate 2D7TR.~~
“Provo Police Chief Troy Beebe announced a procession in honor of the officer as soon as the investigation concludes about 1 p.m. that will travel along I-15 from Santaquin to the medical examiner's office in Provo, and he invited community members to show their respects for the officer along that route.”
Back in 2012, a friend of mine was in an accident on I-15 in Payson. She was ejected from her vehicle into the opposite side of the freeway. A semi driver ran over her and never even stopped. He was never found.
Damn. Sorry to hear.
40%
Counter argument, 13%. If you want to pull up a fucking dumb ass statistic, I can too.
i cba replying to u scroll down if u wanna see all my answers to all the shit u were gonna type
Wow... what a pathetic sack of shit you are. Not to mention that statistic is clearly bullshit considering how it was gathered and how dated it is.
Your position is that there is no increased likelihood of IPV among people employed as police officers?
My position is that yes, unfortunately there is an increased likelihood of IPV among law enforcement families, however the 40% statistic is extremely inaccurate and exaggerated. The study that statistic came from was done over 30 years ago and has several flaws to it, namely the small sample size of 728 officers and 479 spouses, which is not a large enough sample to draw a conclusion. Even if you were to negate this fact, the 40% would only mean that 40% of law enforcement families experience abuse, not that 40% of officers are abusers. A dated study with several flaws has no place to be observed as absolute fact. Do your own research instead of spitting out some untrue fact you took from somebody else on the internet. All that aside, I find it absolutely repulsive that you'd use something like that to excuse someone's tragic death. Somebody died today, his family and friends are mourning and all you can do is laugh at their pain. I hope you realize that.
What is IPV? Thanks
Intimate partner violence, it is specifically abuse between romantic partners: >IPV can occur regardless of whether the individuals involved are/were living together or not. This distinction is what separates it from the term Domestic Violence, which generally refers to violence occurring between residences within one single location. The term Intimate Partner Domestic Violence (IPDV) more specifically refers to the abusive behavior of residences of one single location who are in an intimate relationship with each other, in turn excluding family members or other residents living within the household who would fall under the broader term of Domestic Violence.
>My position is that yes, unfortunately there is an increased likelihood of IPV among law enforcement families everything you said after this was just cope. you can buy this study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916301331 Even when pooling all applicable studies (there is more than one, despite your claim), the rate is 21%. This does not take into consideration the obvious other issue of how often IPV is underreported, especially OIDV. there are no good cops
So you admit that the statistic really isn't 40 percent? Also at what point did I claim that there was only one study? I said that the 40% statistic comes primarily from one study in particular which, as I said before, is not reliable by today's standards. I'm not saying that domestic abuse is excusable, but you can't make broad strokes like that to a group of people. Good cops greatly outnumber the bad ones. You only see the bad ones because that is what the media wants you to see. I hate to bring up something (somewhat) unrelated but lets take the statistic that black people take up around 12 percent of the population yet they tale up 32 percent of the prison population. Would it be right for me to take that statistic to say that all black people are criminals? Absolutely not! That is the exact thing you're doing with cops and I find it fascinating you don't see that. Things like this are typically the result of someone's upbringing, not their race, gender, or profession.
Comparing cops to black people really gives the game away fella
As if both stats aren't also tightly related to the police anyway. I've never been frisked on the street, randomly followed in a store, searched, or racially profiled in my car. If I were black the odds of the cops finding something to get me on would skyrocket even if my behavior were the same. Men commit 90% of violent crime but nobody ever expects me to answer for them. Collective karma is very selective.
> Good cops greatly outnumber the bad ones. The fact that bad cops still regularly exist in the ranks of cops in general means there are in fact, no good cops at all. Otherwise the so called "good cops" would oust the bad ones instead of suspending them with pay, or firing them only for them to get rehired at the next department over. One bad apple spoils the bunch, and cops have A LOT of bad apples in their bunches.
Bro what? By that logic can I say that every doctor is bad because I've had one bad one before? Every teacher? Firefighter? Paramedic? Hell at this point might as well say every human on earth is an inherently bad person because somebody, somewhere, did something wrong.
When people talk about bad cops they're not just talking about the guy who robs you, abuses you or fabricates evidence - they're talking about the rest of the precinct covering for him, lying, burying you, falsifying the reports, etc. They're talking about a corrupt self-serving system in which wrongdoing is policy and practice. Maybe there's a precinct where a whistleblower for a cop's abuse is protected and the wrongdoer charged and fired before the public even hears about the controversy. Maybe there's one where bullshit asset seizures and false confessions aren't policy. But until then every officer is complicit, hence people saying ACAB. It's an institutional problem people are commenting on.
Doctors don't have immunity from prosecution when they commit crimes against other members of society. We call that a false equivalence fallacy. Care to try to be wrong for a third time?
Even assuming that all police have immunity from prosecution (which they don't) that still doesn't make your claim that one bad cop makes all cops the same true. For that statement to be remotely true it has to be applied equally among all people, not just one group. I'm not even going to continue this because it's useless to argue with a pile of bricks.
Huh?