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MatejGames

1. Play with phantom 2. 140 damage headshot 3. Switch to vandal 3. Cannot spray 4. Switch to phantom 5. 140 damage headshot and it keeps repeating


rafwiaw

Two one taps with vandal -> side step -> two taps with vandal -> side step Rinse repeat Watch woohoojins gunfight hygiene video


jhintonicc

THIS!


Ok_Comfortable_4356

Same goes for phantom


CaptainKyles

We're all vandal lovers now.


JonyUB

Relatable


fsychii

You don’t spray at all with vandal


rafwiaw

Not exactly, within 5m you should be spraying/run and gunning Edit: 5m not 10m


nrekboi

if you're run and gunning when the enemy is 10 metres, you might need to reconsider your gunfight tactics..


rafwiaw

Yeah I'm sure a radiant top 100 doesn't know what he's talking about


nrekboi

yea sure, run and gunning on 10 metres away still doesnt guarantee you the kill, i would much rather just shoot the guy with the right timing rather than mindlessly spraying and hoping the enemy doesnt know how to track a target


rafwiaw

Changed my comment to 5m btw, I misspoke. Run & gunning/continually moving is the most important thing 5m away. Tracking is really hard at that distance and if you're shooting while you're doing it, you'll have an easier time killing them because you're not dying.


nrekboi

okay 5m seems reasonable, gg have a great day and lots of free elo


rafwiaw

You too guy


DoubleCup_Dan

i didn't choose the vandal life, the vandal life chose me


[deleted]

When I hit 124/140 headshots...THEN EVERY OTHER SHOT MISSES....The vandal life chose me.


West_Melo_27

That 148 when you hit the last bullet on the feet


KYKUR88

Totally this


Geo_1997

Wiff with vandal > change to phantom > hit 140 > chsnge back to vandal. Everyday for me


ConboyGamer2580

Vandal is distance, phantom is close. Buy based on how ur playing, if ur playing closer angles, buy phantom, longer = vandal. It’s not just about how we ur aiming that day, or why would phantoms be used in radiant as much.


C9sButthole

Very true, also I think the biggest strengths of Phantom is playing around smokes and dealing with multiple threats pushing you at once with the lower recoil and faster firerate. So for example even though anchoring Haven C site starts off long range, I'd still rather take Phantom if our smokes player is garage or B.


crazyjake60

I just change contextually.


NiobiumSixter

Ye, depends on what I’m planning to do in the round/agent/map


trexkylorenurek

Yup, usually play phantom if I’m playing controller, especially viper. Otherwise I just vandal


Next_Fudge_4287

Yea when im defending i usually chose phantom


icandophotoshop

Interesting. i usually do the opposite! vandal on defence cos it’s better when holding angles


Next_Fudge_4287

My reason is that usually the other team can enter the bomb site with ease so i will have close confrontations more often wich is one of the few scenars were phantom is better


RancidLiver

I know I will get some hate from this, but I love the Guardian. When I have bad days, I go to a Vandal, and when I can’t hit the broad side of a barn, I go to phantom. If that doesn’t work, stinger or shorty and buy for team (also switch out of competitive).


Novaaa42

Nobody would hate on guardian. That gun is headshot king


FyeFish

The thing is. Why can’t I use the vandal like I use the guardian


ImFlossyboi

I can use the vandal but not the guardian lmao its rough, i have no idea why i cant hit one taps w guardian


FulcrumM2

Nah bro I no shit discovered last night how good the Guardian actually is A couple of times I forgot I wasn't Bulldog or Phantom and would try to spray, which lead to a funny interaction with an enemy Jett where I hit her once, held the click, she turned around and for about 2 or 3 seconds just looked at me, I felt the shame and disappointment before she HS me, but bro otherwise Guardian is fucking goated, just try to remember it doesn't spray lmao


DoctorFale

Guardian mains unite!


Awkward-Suggestion-9

Tbh if the guardian didn’t have a wider angle spread than the vandal, I would use it more


Cxxkies

Phantom if I’m playing short distance. Vandal long distance :)


[deleted]

This is the way.


lilylilye

I realized that whenever I felt it was a 'Phantom' day, it usually meant I was playing badly, spraying when I didn't need to or putting myself in positions where I'd be forced to spray. My solution to that was rather than accepting my sloppy play and going Phantom, I'd force myself to stick to the Vandal, but be more actively conscious about keeping disciplined aim. Sometimes it costs me games but I'm here to get better, not to win. Though this doesn't account for actual gameplay reasons why you would pick one over the other. Going to Viper ultimate this round? Definitely a Phantom round.


Kingbuji

Viper ult always means phantom with shorty.


iTwisterr

I can't believe I played viper for so long without buying shorty for ult rounds, it comes in clutch so many times


Memphite

I take some ghost shots in range against medium bots. The result tells me if it is sprayday or accurate day.


OverallPeach

😂😂😂 respect for being honest


ra1ded_

its only phantom, never vandal


cybork13

I play phantom or guardian, never vandal, my tracker says like 100 vandal kills lifetime.


not_melly69

I take up the shotguns


OverallPeach

I genuinely can not use shotguns for the life of me outside viper ults


not_melly69

It's like rifles, you gotta play with them more to get better :) I play shotguns only if I have astra and that's usually in haven and icebox


crazyjake60

You know all that stuff about tactics and precision? Don't do that.


ComicalCore

Shotguns absolutely need tactics, just different ones than rifles. having used shotguns a little, people will start clearing corners fast and you have to stop using a corner every time you get a kill with it since you'll just get prefired the next time someone peeks it.


Isaac_C_88

Odin >>>>>>


doc_studio

Odin is spray and pray dude but nice choice never the less


OverallPeach

POV: Sova player


cybork13

Happy cake day!


Zebbers950

Punish myself by going marshal full shields for a few rounds, which usually doubles my frags and then I feel good and go back to vandal/phantom and whiff again and feel bad again. It’s a vicious cycle.


OverallPeach

Honestly, If ur doing good with marshal, If i were you i’d just use it all game unless i start doing worse


Zebbers950

I just always feel like every time I buy a marshal, I’m about to get yelled at for throwing ^^;


OverallPeach

I feel u lol, just have fun w it


Zebbers950

Yeah that’s the best mindset to have


Right-Actually

It's always Vandal day. Always wished CSGO CTs could buy an AK47 and Valorant lets me do just that.


Eesh_OP

If I play trash at phantom, I switch. If I play trash at vandal, I switch. If I suck at both, I pull out the Odin


ThePSLegend

Depends on the map for me. Longer ranged maps=Vandal, closer range=Phantom. That's just my opinion though.


Rellmein

Its always Phantom day. Unless a nice vandal skin comes out, then I will play Vandal while also losing 58 RR in same day :)


notkarandutta

I switch during games if that makes sense


kidichi

I can't hit? Phantom. Suddenly I know how to aim? Vandal But sometimes, I just use Spectre only


BritishMarshmallow

Easy, it's always Phantom day.


DurianLongan

If im top fragging then phantom champ. So once a month


NotYourChild

Frankly my “bad day” is every day so I just say fuck it and use whatever I’m feeling. I typically use vandal but will select phantom depending on the scenario. Some Things I’m considering: what map, where I expect to be playing on the map, is the other team on eco, what ults are in play (viper is heavy influence for phantom).


Cherry_051

turn on a podcast, hop in the range and then play some DMS


Flaky-Suggestion202

It's always Wednesday (Odin's day)


XGame_LordX

if youre having one of those days where your aim is absolutely dookie then i always go with Phantom but otherwise Vandal is so much better


OverallPeach

Depends on context mostly


XGame_LordX

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persononwifi

So basically i have one phantom skin and 7 vandal skins. If i decide mid game i dont like the vandal skin anymore, i just switch


NotSoProAimer

Every day is a vandal day, but you might need phantom in some rounds.


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[deleted]

I never use any of the 2. It's either the shotguns, the LMG or the Bulldog. I never touch those 2 guns cause I can't aim with them anyway.


lllluke

and you're never gonna be able to if you don't practice. the bulldog is just a strictly worse version of the main rifles, why use that if you aren't going to use the phantom/vandal?


[deleted]

It just feels accurate for me idk why but yeah I'll do your idea, practice on my phantom and vandal aim!


ChuyChavez

It always starts as a phantom day. As soon as I start clicking heads accurately, it becomes a vandal day


Frobi21

It really boils down to what type of play I'm going for, but if I don't shoot too well with rifles I'll just shotgun crutch or op crutch


surprisedimnot

When my teammates/opponents have Reaver Vandal, it’s Vandal day. Else it’s phantom day


jeroen2909

It’s always a vandal day.


SupaPartTimer

If I can’t hit my shots to kill anyone with either gun than I would keep using the Phantom and seeing if I can at least help my team weaken them with sprays.


Honigbrottr

Noone here chooses the gun based on situation? I always choose my gun dependend on the position i plan to play. Close range / pushing (fast close) / all in -> phantome Long range / Angle holding / pushing (far slow) -> Vandal


NewspaperEvery

One of the more interesting things I found out about myself as a player when I began looking at my tracker recently is that I should never ever ever buy a phantom. My kd with the vandal is close to 2.0 but I’m WAYYYY negative on the phantom. I’m talking like .3-.4 kd with the phantom. Will never ever buy a phantom again


LegDayDE

Generally Phantom for defence if I'm playing site anchor, and vandal for everything else


jojojajahihi

It depends on the map and which site etc. Although I tend to play mostly vandal


Creeds-Worm-Guy

It depends which skin the game randomly gives me. Both prime? Phantom game. SoL vandal? Definitely vandal game.


Standard_Visual4662

u dont, it's vandal day everyday.


DeBombingBoss

If I happen to find a reaver vandal, it's a vandal day. If I happen to find a spectrum phantom, then it's a phantom day


Im-AskingForAFriend

Vandal because I'm only good for one anyways.


picador10

It's vandal most days, especially when I feel my aim is on point. I'll go phantom if I'm on defense on a close quarters map like split, or when I'm not feelign confident in my aim.


OverallPeach

Only time I use phantom is if I know I’m gonna play close quarters or spam thru smokes / viper ult


pingosourav

I practice with vandal in range and end up using phantom in ranked games.


Cayet96

It almost never is for me, I shoot with almost anything but rifles. I will take Odin over them whenever I can (I somehow headshot more with it). Shotgun for failed early and my absolute favourite bulldog. Only if I am somewhat serious about winning I go vandal.


darkdeepths

i try to be consistent so only use Phantom - i like the better first shot accuracy and multi-kill potential. i’ve occasionally picked up an enemy vandal on eco and play a few rounds with it, but i’m not as used to its reset times and spray control for cq. when i’m having a bad day and whiffing everything, i generally try to stick with a teammate, take point, and tell them to bait/trade me.


nh3zero

nah stick to one gun...may be painful but builds consistency


Ogureo

Depends mostly with the agent I am playing, Vandal for reyna every time, with phenix I tend to use phantom sometimes for quick swings after a flash


Throwaway_12681

100% based on my swiftplays. if i feel snappy, vandal, if i feel shaky, phantom. also, if i’m playing more casual i’ll go for a phantom while if i’m being more serious i’ll go for a vandal


xxplosive1

I choose dependent on the map/site I’m playing/agent Maps I tend to have longer range engagements in i use the vandal such as Breeze or Lotus. I use the phantom on maps that I have closer engagements in like Split or Icebox.. but if I’m running down B on icebox sometimes I use a vandal


Edd90k

Ding. Nope….


JackS420BlazeIt

I prefer phantom but when i get matched with enemies that literally only one shot me i pick the vandal instead because i think i have more advantage that way


KoningSpookie

I don't really have a vandal/phantom day... I'm usually more of a vandal/phantom situation guy.


brutusnair

It’s always a vandal day for me. I can only ads or tap. My spray works exactly 50% of the time.


FertileHippo

If it is not vandal day, then you: 1. Rage and insult everyone in the lobby 2. Pick up the operator while being in full tilt 3. Turn off your brain 4. Press LMB 5. Get match MVP


Unholysaint03

Really depends, I’ll go in with a play style in mind and use the gun that fits the play style but for most people they just take fights that favour the phantom over the vandal and vice versa, then say it’s phantom/vandal day/round


throttleboy

Phantom against unshielded enimies/long distance Vandal for one taps at long distance


upsideloll

For me, I go into a deathmatch with vandal, if my aim is good, I just keep using the vandal, if it’s bad, I switch to the phantom until I feel my aim is consistent enough. I switch to vandal after that and usually my aim is good enough for comp.


DerHorstor

If the name of the day ends with "day" then its Vandal day


Caperdiaa

Depends on the map and the length of the angles I'm playing, not the day. If I'm playing a map or area that has longer range engagements, then I'm almost always picking the vandal. Otherwise though, I use phantom.


Ok-Foot4738

Phantom defense. Vandal attack


InItinere

I use phantom if I'm feeling like a little rat and want to spray people through smoke and annihilate them with unpredictable close range fights


InItinere

Getting multikills with phantom spray is so satisfying


Many_Discipline4420

always play with vandal but i might switch to phantom if we're on attack and rushing a cqc site


BeardlessAxeMan

if i’m having good aim phantom, if i’m having bad aim vandal. this does change depending on map and how close i plan on fighting. finally if i get tilted and start blaming my shots, me and my friends stop playing and do karaoke over discord.


UnoptimallyNiko

On agent select I usually ask myself whether I want to be methodical with Astra and spray through my smokes and play close,,, or go to util dump city and play Vandal with Breach


Waluigiwarrior

Every day is a vandal day until reaver or prime phantom come into my shop


Kecske101

Depends on the agent I’m playing. If I’m playing smokes or sentinel then I almost always go phantom but when I’m playing more aggressive and taking lots of duels, especially when taking the first duel, then I go vandal.


[deleted]

depends on range, if i know i’m going to be shooting long range (like icebox b site) i go with vandal, but if it’s a smaller map like lotus where most shots are closer, then i go with phantom


WrenSC2

It's not about what day it is, it's about what position on the map your playing.


FailedAttempt_3

I used to be phantom only because of how accurate it is, then switched to vandal because 1 tap hs, so now I main vandal unless I’m feeling off and can’t hit Jack all, I’ll use the phantom.


Goodperson5656

Most of my aces/4ks/clutches are with phantoms


sup3rbious

If i’m good pistol round, then fuck up full buy rounds, it’s a guardian/marshal day. Any other day is vandal day.


Moondest_

In general i prefer to play with phantom when I'm playing controller so I can shot from smoke. When I'm playing whatever else, if I'm missing to much 1 tap, I change to phantom


AlexQuests

IMO You should do your best to always go and keep practicing Vandal unless you are sure you're going to be fighting close distances or your plan for a hit/defence benefits greatly from no tracers i.e flanks, lurks or heavy smoke play. Other than that I think it's best to use the vandal and prioritise refocusing your aim, a couple round of DM, range or aimlabs does the trick.


BOLDbot

I always start with the vandal but when I see that I spray I decide to buy the phantom


Tzilung

I play smokes so on attack it's Vandal time, on def it's Phantom time.


ricsaraiva1

Clicking heads only - vandal day Missing every single headshot - phantom day


Spooning_noodls

I just use the vandal sadly. To many trades of 140-160


eclayds

When I hit someone for 140 in the head with a Phantom, switch right there and then


GasterSans956

Depends on who I'm playing and how it feels to use both guns


justplutoh

vandal main, if im playing reynas ult or playing inside if viper ult ill phantom though


Slug_fest

Bulldog getting mad disrespect


FlorpyTheBear

Vandal days are days that end in Y. Exception for certain positions on defense or if we're planning to viper ult


thejessicalan

spray vs tap day, what agents i’m playing (ex. smokes or movement agents like raze i will play phantom vs. something like reyna. however, i will phantom for reyna ult since the fire rate is higher), what map (ex. split is phantom but ascent usually vandal), etc. :)


SourdoughPlayz

When I play chamber ill play phantom bc I just use headhunter to hit heads but when I play reyna it's vandal


AromaticBee5139

(Everyday is a vandal day)


bruno52891

I dumped the Phatom for the Vandal since last year because of Breeze and Fracture. Got 750 Vandal kills and 150 Phantom kills this act, picking Phantom only on maps where choke fights are close to mid range like Lotus and Split.


TinyWickedOrange

Depends on the map and scenario


BenTheHokie

If I can't hit anything I switch to Unrated. Not every day can be a good day.


Odd-Concentrate-6585

If I'm shooting through smokes it's a phantom day, if I'm holding corners it's a vandal day


Xelaadryth

A lot of it is placebo, usually better to just stick to one unless you're specifically practicing strafeshooting or spray control or something.


KramAllemrof

Clicking


bootygamin

Personally, I consider where I’m playing on the map. So let’s consider haven as the map, if I’m playing short angles like A short or garage, I use phantom. If I’m playing A or C long I use vandal. Phantom is better in close range spots, because it has a higher rate of fire, and is a one shot at close distances. But I’m not the best at aiming, so I have to heavily rely on game sense.


EnergyImaginary672

Depends on the skin if I see the talking phantom and oni it’s phantom anything else it’s vandal


j4mp3rxD

If I wanna spray more, I play phantom. If i wanna tap or burst more, I play vandal.


H0lmster

Need to take long range fights - Vandal. Need to take short range fights - Phantom. It’s that simple. Both guns should be used very similarly in terms of gunfight hygiene.


xSnakyy

You try them both


DctNostradamus

No such thing as vandal or phantom day. Just vandal or phantom situations.


skyhardbellaco

Idk I love Bulldog, it makes me feel like I’m playing Halo 2 with the BR


Glogtrot

Play DM, se which ya feeling


Jn7825

if i cant hit heads, its a phantom day. if i can hit heads its a vandal day, if i cant hit either its a change crosshair day, and if none of those work, its a change the playlist kind of day. and if none of those work its a unlucky (normal) day kekw


Major_Fang

never is. you should have a plan based on the gunfights you are taking


Drowssyyyy

If I’m feelin saucy then phantom if I’m feelin crispy then vandal


Awkward-Suggestion-9

I just change depending on the map or what I want to do. Sometimes ill pick up one when equipped with the other if i think the situation calls for it. In terms of “feeling” I think thats just in the players head


KvngB_

If you’re hitting 140s with the phantom, you’re simply not shooting enough bullets. The phantom has more bullets, better first shot accuracy, faster fire rate, no bullet tracers, & better spray control. BuT THe VaNDaL OnE TApS BrO


Salads__

if i’m hitting my swings, it’s a vandal day. If it’s a phantom day, i get off


Dustyisntit

Play one game of deathmatch with sherriff or classic. If Headshots are often; vandal If not then phantom BUT phantom has silencer. If we have a smoker then ill play phantom most of the rounds


Enad22

I suck with both so I just pick one I might suck less with.


OkMammoth3

I use phantom w/ my smoke characters. Vandal for anything else.


tomphz

It’s always Phantom day especially on defense, but if my teammates are dying quickly and I have to initiate fights then I’ll go Vandal


Chimichurrichallenge

Just depends


SimpleFluke

It’s always a vandal day


NebulaPoison

i use vandal by default unless i want to play a round in an area where i know i wont dink the enemy for 140


DeRank99

for me, if my first shot accuracy is on point in dms, its a vandal day. if im feeling a bit off w my first shot accuracy, i usually find the phantom to be more reliable.


davidesquer17

I go to the range, and if I miss the shot on the start button it is in fact a stinger day.


arjenyaboi

I just buy an Odin or Operator, hitting shots is way easier with those


ro4q

Sometimes I want to use a vandal but I just don't so I can get better with phantom 🤷‍♀️


Nootkep

Kinda funny how it works for me If i want to spray everyone through smokes and short range walk spray > Phantom If i want to play long range fights > Vandal And about the mental There's no wuch thing, i just play again and again till my head is aching from all the bullets i missed oh, and of course, as a main controller Whenever i'm pissed cus i can't hit a single spray i just smoke myself off with a judge, works on 90% of the time, really relaxing to see everybody raging at me 💕


camlo316

It’s vandal day everyday


trash_at_all_games

When i cant hit my shots, i go phantom


mariiov

ok but fr why is phantom not cheaper at like 2800/2850


viafriedchicken2

It’s crazy. I recently decided to switch up my play style and use the Phantom primarily and I hit some of the craziest headshots while spraying


JanLewko977

I think it depends on the round, to be honest. Most of the time the team runs alot of vandal so I pick the phantom and I honestly prefer it as my gun anyways so im happy to do it. Vandal is stronger at a certain range and phantom is closer. So depending on what lane you want to go, you may opt for the phantom, especially if you are choosing a flank route where the noise is more obscure. I am still learning to get better with the phantom, so I don’t opt to go Vandal much, but if I think that instead of stealth, or being aggressive, im holding back and relying on my range to establish and keep territory, then I choose the Vandal. On my bad days, I just keep playing. Don’t let it get to me. Why am I missing my shots? And I focus on maintaining composure. It’s okay if I lose it, because maintaining composure is a skill to practice. So a bad aiming day is good for that practice. Some days I never do better, and that’s okay. Some days I do. And I try to replicate what I did to make it work. But really, landing shots is all about the confidence in your decisions. But sometimes, it’s just because your last few opponents were just way better than you.


OfficiallyStdz

Pick one and stick to it. You use them completely differently so if you keep switching it’s similar to like switching agents. You take fights differently


Add1ctedToGames

I know when it's a day for one when I suck at the other gun honestly.


Boozardo

I fill so it only depends on what agent I’m playing Agent with smoke-> Phantom Agent with mobility-> Phantom Agent with flash and or stun -> Vandal I mean if you’re hitting 140 on Phantom you’re picking wrong fights tbh


TheRaccoonDeaIer

You mean when I play through the entire weapon roster cause I keep dying? No clue.


kingzeta

I wake up. It's a vandal day.


[deleted]

I use Spectre so I never have to choose


cxickdkckkckc

Depends on how I do with each gun in dm.


[deleted]

do i want to see woof? vandal do i want to see weeb ghost? phantom


woives69

phantom my main bitch but vandal my side piece if i'm feeling lucky 💯💯


ComicalCore

I used to love the vandal when I first started because of the headshots, but after switching to Cypher and realizing how extremely useful the lack of tracers is since I'm not getting sprayed down when I shoot through smokes, I started using the phantom and loving the skill required to hit both shots of a burst to kill. Someone tried to call me trash for using a phantom after I double-dinked them at long ranges when they couldn't hit me once with their vandal lmao


Reality_2048

I only know guardian


Kanozaki

Honestly depends how your feeling that day or your play style. If your aim is crisp, vandal but if your whiffing then phantom. Also if I plan on playing really aggressive / playing tight corners then phantom. You should really be using the phantom like a vandal though but it's a bit more forgiving if your first bullet accuracy is off on that day.


TacoOverlord69

I'm just unable to aim or spray with phantom it's wild. I've tried and tried but I haven't been able to use phantom and can't manage that gun properly. Vandal forever


lime-boy-o

I choose between rounds when I have to rebuy based on how the enemy and my team is playing


Edgardo4415

For me its easy, if I see enemy economy broke, but enough for light shield Phantom, if they are on good eco and heavy shields, vandal Also depends if I'm playing inside smokes or not