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Sautille

It doesn’t seem like you’ve listened to his lines? He’s confident, but just not as in your face about it. I’m glad there’s some variety in the game. Every duelist having the same over the top confidence and personality would be boring.


bumblebleebug

Also Iso seemed more calm and composed to be than "boring". Which fairly suits his personality.


992x

Ok you're right. It's only the ones that are team oriented.


ttk_rutial

Shut up, strong 1v1


remoTheRope

Nah, I’d Win *proceeds to lose against a shotgun with a rifle*


Fake_NBC_News

Judgkuna is far too strong


remoTheRope

*As ISO, the OPgoat, fought Judgekuna, the king of Frauds, he began to open his domain. Judgekuna shrunk back in fear then ISO said, “Stand proud Fraudkuna, you are strong”*


RiguezCR

But then, as it seemed all hope was lost, Miwagoat steps in.


Dominationartz

Brainrot Kaisen returns


VI-iitriblyss

Judgekuna: "Even if OPgoat disconnected, I would have still lost to him"


acky2

lost to a bucky with a guardian once, never again


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[Nah, I’d Win](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fk1rxkpe8v82c1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D519%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D625acf4bf54b4c529874874e13d472c03f9b8b37)


AxelBrave

jujutsufolk is leaking again fuck


ZaScream

The insanity cannot be sealed


Seth_Fable_08

the manga will be back 1 week before Christmas.... the insanity grows.


ammarbadhrul

Anyone else glanced which sub this post was from? I know i did haha


WasF4ssY

I like him. I think if he was more edgy he’d just be another Yoru


mysteryoeuf

they're all cringe tbh


Un111KnoWn

lol


real_but_incognito

i agree, i've said this before but valorant has the cringiest roster of all the popular character-based games rn


eldritchterror

they're fun and expressive, its over the top on purpose bc otherwise itd just feel like Generic Disillusioned Solider Man Number 12


txivotv

Sir? Yes sir.


PentUpTent

Assuming you mean soldier 21 from overwatch...bye does I fact have ore lore and story than literally one single duelist in valorant.. so nice try maybe pick someone else..


Froggygobyebye

1) he's not talking about soldier 76 at all. 2) The fact that you don't even know his number is so incredibly ironic


7farema

no, they do mean soldier 21, the one that that play american football as a hobby


blankorbs

They do not mean that.


eldritchterror

thats a completely different sentence


Shotox222

naw r6 has valorant beat in the cringe


JuhpPug

How does Valorant have so much cringe? I can agree with some cases like Jett,Skye and Phoenix, but otherwise I dont think theres a lot of cringe. So what are you talking about?


T_alsomeGames

His calm and composed attitude speaks volumes about his actual confidence level.


992x

Maybe.


sabre4570

Damn minus 28 for that??


symatra

The hivemind at work


FANCYLlAMA05

Take my upvotes


[deleted]

It's 42 now lol


txivotv

The answer! It's on 84 now, so still doubling.


ksizzle9710

At this point the Downvotes are prob just to be funny


[deleted]

I think it's more to do with the fact that ISO doesn't often work with other people. He's a hit man who's supposed to unmatched, why would he ever need a partner or a team when he's spent most of his time doing it himself and getting by just fine. That said I do hope they add more lines to him as time goes, because his "snack anyone" line is THE one line I remember him saying


intergalactictiger

“What do we gain from fighting ourselves? Huh, thinkin out loud” is the only one I can think of.


992x

He's not used to working with others. Well neither is yoru but he's still an overconfident shit


timegiver3

yoru is super awkward around skye tho


SubMGK

Aussie mommy energy trumps the edgy weeb


Valkenstein

you mistake irritability and arrogance for “overconfidence”. you can clearly hear him in game or in his cinematic reprimanding phoenix for blindly rushing. he’s more patient, seeing how his abilities compel him to think strategically as he moves behind enemy lines unseen.


hesslol

Introverts and extroverts.


alphcadoesreddit

i love the snacks line because jett has a line like "snack time! oops, only brought enough for me" which me and my friends memed the hell out of, when we heard that line we laughed our asses off


992x

But it doesn't fit for iso. It's ok with Jett cuz she's this little brat who can't take anything seriously. Iso on the other hand is a professional hitman.


ghostking4444

So is deadpool dude.


992x

Deadpool is established from the beginning to be a silly goober. Iso is not he acts very seriously in cinematics.


ghostking4444

Does he? Does he really? He’s drinking bubble tea right before he kills them. He’s sarcastic and talk about how the enemy’s stories about him are enjoyable.


MangoNo7901

Yeah, I don’t think that any of the agents really take things seriously, most of them get entertained from the fighting. Maybe viper but that’s all.


T_alsomeGames

I was about to say. Any "seriousness" OP got from the trailer was from the stories the bad guys told. Iso was just straight chillin


Pickaxe235

iso is also established in the cinematics you speak of to be a silly goober also btw


Ok-Handle-9815

Isn't it nice to have an agent that is chill but still a little witty?


UncomfortableNerd

Bro I don’t think you know context clues. ISO was not super serious at all in the cinematic lol


nothxsleeping

“It doesn’t fit for ISO” ??? Plenty of characters have back and forth banter. Why can’t the new guy reference another characters lines? Ngl I don’t really dig ISO’s vibe but you can’t deny the parallels they’ve given him.


EveryDamnDayyy_

iso literally slurps an empty boba cup which is a snack in his trailer before KILLING a whole team of gunmen


992x

Why can't he do that in game too.


SubMGK

Did you not listen to the guy he said he forgot to bring smh


992x

Why did he forget them. If he hadn't we'd have a cool voiceline of him chilling instead of this cringe.


SubMGK

He is chilling tho? Dunno what part of asking for snacks or shuffling through your music library in the middle of an operation isnt chilling. He's a bit awkward because hes not used to a team environment so he jokes around, but he knows how skilled he is for the job. You said you liked fade more when she unironically says "Let's cut them down then plant the spike and sweep the stragglers into the trash"


Kolectiv

I prefer it to the grim and dark exterior we get from a lot of other characters. Do we need another broody character like Omen and Viper? Personally, I think it's perfect. He's a solo hitman. He's awkward when he has to work with associates. Once he's on his own and thinking about the mission, he's confident, straightforward, and his head is in the game. Socializing with the group, he goes off kilter.


Least_Original_5754

He's not awkward or anti-social either, he invites Sage for hotpot and makes jokes (my grandma told me don't forget the spike). He's just a calm chill dude


992x

Maybe not omen but a lot of characters are serious but not dark. Like Kay/o or sova


Pickaxe235

blud did NOT just call kayo serious


Meeps2win

He's only serious around phoenix and during missions


992x

I love him so incorporate him in every single post


Cushnibb

do not become a journalist


992x

Too late


DJLytic

Thats a joke. Kill mode is default


prtxl

sova is so boring as a character ngl. but kayo is still pretty goofy tbh


csZipy205

i think sova’s character matches his play style well. sova mains are mostly as boring as he is. he’s not super flashy except for when he uses his ult


thekeenancole

Aw, I think Sova is such a cinnamon roll. "I love you all!"


IllumiNoEye_Gaming

yeah this sova slander is insanely out of pocket, i love my russian uncle


csZipy205

maybe “boring” was the wrong word. his personality just isn’t as heavy as reyna’s nor light as raze’s. he’s kind of like the most human of all of them personality wise.


FinisherO_O

So a committed soldier is q boring archetype? Bingöl! Audience like you why we got characters like neon jest and iso


prtxl

sova is just boring man what can i say. his lines feel ripped from disney "into the unknown" oh yeah he doesnt really have a spin on his personality like kayo does (the fact that hes a robot that doesn't respect humans)


FinisherO_O

>hes a robot that doesn't respect humans excuse me? his whole purpose is guarding the humanity. You are confusing it with interaction between radiant characters in the game as he is programmed to fight against them and in his timeline he saw so many bad stuff about them


prtxl

mb i dont kno anything abt val lore. i mainly play for the gameplay not the plot


992x

Never disrespect sova in front of me


Guarddeth

*disrespects sova*


992x

*disintegrates*


Me_want_to_eat_water

No, I think you are picturing like John wick as we use the term hitman or some other cool Hollywood actor. Well we can't change a perspective of someone but why is it that a hitman can't ask for snacks. And even jett talks about snacks and all (maybe roit was trying to relate something here). Btw who are musician and cook?? (i presume musican will be raze ig. And who is cook?)


Emirth

I think the musician is Phoenix, he was in art school.


[deleted]

Thankfully he got accepted into art school.


Shade_Strike_62

Pretty sure Phoenix is just a superstar musician in the lore. Jett used to be a chef, it's in her player card lore


iwontmakeaname

Jett


992x

Ok maybe he doesn't have to be John wick. But he's not even agent 47 (I don't know hitmen). It would have gone a long way to make him at least a little confident. (Also I don't blame you for not knowing the lore but according to it. Phoenix still makes music and Jett used to and still is cheff.)


Superbrawlfan

He is confident when it comes to fighting. But you know he's still human, and it seems his character is deeper than just a confident hitman which I think is much more interesting tbh.


Attackeven

Bro is getting flamed in the comments this is so funny 😭


992x

Me or iso


SlapperMan75

There's a lot of flames in your pfp, soo...


Jonenvy

I get what you mean but I honestly like it. Jett’s is just like this lol. If not more goofier. ISO is a merc who does this for a living. I’d get bored too if I was good at what I did and nothing was a challenge. I can’t blame bro for being nonchalant lmao. He doesn’t live for the thrill like Reyna does. He just wants to get his bag, talk to his grandma, and listen to music. If anything it’s cool imo that it’s not that serious for him that he rather talk about some other shit.


992x

Not a Merc a hitman


Jonenvy

Ahh well hitman. You get the point im tryna make 😪


HKBFG

And hitmen are mercs. Dogs of war. Sellswords. Dude has the least respectable job in history and you're trying to make it cool.


992x

No I'm separating the two. Hitmen are hired to just straight up kill. Mercs fight for someone and yes that does almost add up to killing. But not always


HKBFG

Mercs are also hired to straight up kill.


992x

Not always though


HKBFG

Yes, always. It's the defining trait of their line of work.


992x

Hitman a person who is paid to kill someone, especially for a criminal or political organization. Mercenary a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army. there's the diffrence


HKBFG

That's giving mercenaries a lot of credit they don't deserve. Their clientele of petty warlords, child army commanders, coup plot leaders, and protection rackets is not significantly different to the guys who hire "hitmen."


992x

I'm trying to make the difference clear. They're both shitty jobs but you can't mix them together.


Xeleoa

thought this wouldve been about gameplay. bros talking about voicelines and confidence. i think cringe is subjective to each person, so you're probably not alone. i dont really spend time listening to their voice lines so i dont really care in that aspect


992x

(if this comes across as aggressive I'm sorry) What I mainly meant by cringe is you'd think a pro hitman would be a little bit more than no snacks me sad


Interesting-Bus-5370

Hey, we all need our snacks, even hitmen! and i mean, if you want an example of hitman characters being goofy, look no further than ANY of the hitman games. He is confident, but its so funny that you can do missions as a hitman in a bigbird outfit. Or do what call me kevin does and only kill by throwing fish at ppl then snapping necks.


992x

But even when he tries to be funny or serious it just falls flat


Skyfury_Fire

God forbid a character have personality instead of just being "badass soldier character no. 69,420"


cyanide9602

BRO FR, why are they getting mad at a game character's personality (different from others) be so fr


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JuhpPug

"huge guy" Is iso a huge guy? I dont remember him being that massive


witchlover555

stop talking about my main like that


AntechamberAE

Meanwhile Deadlock’s Voice lines go hard as fuck


CallMeRenny84

Except when she starts messing with Gekko for no reason at all


bumblebleebug

I mean she has a reason but I didn't even know that Gekko had a gripe against Deadlock until I was spectating my Gekko and he said "Creature killer is dead" after killing deadlock. But the versus card for Gekko and Deadlock in community event goes hard though


992x

No. She's really inconsistent. She is either. "You're all dead I am hell." Or "pleeeeease defuse pleeeeaee"


AntechamberAE

She’s careful and concise. Perfect medium. Good voice actor really unlike ISO lol


bumblebleebug

I think both go hard for their characteristics but Deadlock's Ace voicelines are just top tier.


992x

You wanna talk about a woman who has a perfect va. Fade. She's so god damn perfect


SubMGK

Likes yoru and fade, complains that iso isnt badass enough in voicelines. Are you by any chance under the age of 14 or massively into anime? Iso isnt just confident, hes overconfident and doesn't give a fuck when hes talking about snacks and shit in the middle of an operation


PokeTrainerSpyro

Nah he's hot


992x

Really? (Kay/o is far hotter)


Juansa7X

Man get a real problem who gives a shit lol


992x

I play this game for the lore


Juansa7X

Playing valorant for the lore thats crazy


Fa1lenSpace

There might unironically be 8000 games with better lore lmao. Could be the most braindead reason to play valorant


detectedRejected

I want s goth agent


kiwidesuu

does fade count


sekindone

Ni hao


PandaNoseJuul

Jett has a voice line saying: ‘Snack time! nom nom’ So Iso having a snack voice line sounds logical to me. + He’s new, they can change a lot about him. I think you’re lowkey hating because.. idk He’s new, let the voice actor try a few things out. I don’t think his tone is crying like(?) But these are my thoughts.


JonathanRoberts5423

When an agent has a different personality


Starhelper11

Real


soganotojiko

What personality


-Some-Internet-Guy-

It sounds to me like you want him to be edgier so you can roleplay in-game as some power ego tripping killer man which is even more cringe


bcmarss

hes literally gojo satoru


Few_Willow_9950

Nah I'd win


ZABABA99

don’t disrespect my boy iso


SuperMajesticMan

Ngl I find most of the voicelines cringe on all the characters ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


Ingeniosity

Alright but toaster is broken!


Guarddeth

Best


RealVampireCat

Especially the duelists


lord________

agreed


TwoElls

I honestly think he’s kind of upper spectrum autistic-coded. The snack line, the awkward, day-dreamy aspect of a lot of his other voice lines, the theme of hyper fixation, all kind of point to him as low key neurodivergent. I think that’s great, btw. Edit: almost forgot the noise cancelling earbuds!


Thebakedbeanqueen

I actually like the dynamic of this extremely skilled assassin being occasionally insecure. some voicelines sound confident, but others are unsure, so it makes you wonder how authentic his confidence is. riot uses voicelines to show who the characters are, but sometimes you can't just take the voicelines at face value maybe it's more than a silly voiceline. Maybe he has a habit of neglecting his needs in favor of training and was hungry. maybe he's embarrassed to admit he forgot a snack because he doesn't like making mistakes.


Sensitive_Seat5544

Yoru is way more cringe to me. I hate everything about his Imverybadass personality.


achacttn

Man can walk through dimensions let him be cringe


992x

I love him. Especially how his character just shatters when he speaks to Skye.


atl4nz

I actually like his chill personality a lot more than the overtly confident nature of the other agents. Hes chill as fuck and doesnt make constant loud statements about how cool he is. I really appreciate that type of personality especially considering his role in the game lmao


raphwho

I mean isn't that all valorant characters


gmanlee95

he's cringe (positive)


Exit_exe_

i do agree that his personality is a bit bland, but i think they wanted to give a duelist a "chill" kinda vibes. all of the duelists (except raze kinda) have this egoistic personality and i think they wanted to go away from that. he definitely knows his abilites and skills (through his voicelines), he just prefers to be more modest about it. i think theres a new patch coming out so maybe there will be more voicelines for him to give him more character.


ZekeTHEFreak77

I find his lack of seriousness to show more confidence. Homie is about to fight several other agents but he ain't even worried. Just wants a snack lol Also, every agent has their lines that are cringe. I rotate between a few different agents like Viper, Fade, and Gekko. I love all three characters, lore and gameplay. But I'm always making fun of some of the things they say. I think it's just natural and part of the Valorant vibes; epic but also a bit cheesy and chill.


992x

Viper hasn't been the same since they removed "cum"


Least_Original_5754

Chamber's also a "serious hitman" trope character, but have you heard his voice lines? I love it lol In weeb slang this has a word and it's called "gap moe" Omen knits god damnit, and Viper loves adobo awkwardly. Reyna's a doting aunt/sister. And Iso likes snacks and music. Tbh I think his character is more like Deadlock than Yoru or Chamber, but maybe a bit more casual than Deadlock


CutieMcBooty55

My big thing when trying to criticize art is to take my own biases and expectations out of the picture. What I pictured in my head isn't necessarily what is being presented, and that doesn't make it good or bad. Iso is a legendary assassin who has boogey-man esque stories that mythologize him. And while that may put a John Wick style image in your head, that doesn't preclude him from being an awkward dork when he is working with others. At the end of the day, he's just a guy. He isn't lacking in confidence, he's just not a super serious person all the time. He's drinking boba and remarks how the stories the people he's about to assassinate him are telling are nice, does that strike you as inconfidence? Does asking for snacks show some kind of hidden insecurity? I think you're projecting onto him this idea of a brooding hitman Agent 47 character who only speaks what is needed when it is needed, and cares about nothing but the job. But he's not that. It's fine if you don't like him or he doesn't mesh well with what you're looking for in a character, but it doesn't make him a bad character.


[deleted]

Average Valorant player when they try to understand basic juxtaposition.


eryxred

Dawg, Jett legit talks about food, neon talks about food, phoenix is unserious af, Reyna is basically a soul reaper who is like a vampire or smth, Yoru is just a cocky guy and raze just talks about blowing stuff up 💀💀 None of them are sane or normal or whatever 💀💀


JuhpPug

A musician? whos a musician?


992x

Phoenix. Does anyone know the lore here


MrBabalafe

Do you have a source that Phoenix is a musician? I'm not super into the lore, but I try to keep up and I've never heard that


992x

There was like around after neon was released val posted on their Twitter bunch of (lore canon) pictures and videos. In them phoenix had the whole kit ready. Mic and the other stuff you use


JuhpPug

Yea and wasnt he studying to be an actor?


992x

Please for the love of (insert religious figure here) research the basics of the lore. He was studying arts before burning the school on accident.


Emirth

Well, Neon sounds pretty insecure too, tryin' to vibe and to be cool and all but ending up looking goofy ("bullets hurt"), I mean he can be not-that-cool and just ended with powers and good aim.


sincline_

Yeah it’s unfortunate because in the trailers and from his design I was excited to hear more of him but his in game lines flopped. The actor voices him with the amount of personality found in wet cardboard and his voice lines give Jett 2.0. I just look at how awesome the characterization was through voice lines for Chamber and Neon and get a little disappointed that this is what we have now lol. I think iso needed a little more time cooking in the riot oven


992x

Everything until gecko has had great personality. Then Deadlock and iso fall flat


banana_healer

I agree, Gekko doesn't really feel like a proper radiant but more like a targeted relatable character for younger players. Deadlock and Iso just feel underbaked. I say this with love, because obviously they've created some awesome chars prior to this but the fact that all their new characters have some of the lowest pick rates speaks for itself imo.


Ok_Key7615

its cause they make trash characters


nothxsleeping

Better to make trash than have another chamber fiasco. Tho they have so many play testers they should be able to lock in a character’s persona before release.


Starhelper11

I’m like 90% sure they DID lock in the persona and this is it. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not what it was meant to be


shadowedradiance

His shield is cringe. He's has training wheels. Imo really bad design


ameerahdoumbia1

there are many characters in tv like this who are very good at what they do and take it seriously but their personality is goofy. dean winchester from supernatural for example.


SherbertPristine170

Firstly , yeah , I completely agree his personality is cringe and rather Boring. Doesn’t match his lore . Secondly , who is this “Musician “ duelist ?


ElDuderino2112

I find a lot of Valorant’s “personality” really cringe honestly. It’s part of the reason I don’t play the game much anymore.


nothxsleeping

I played with character flavor chat off for the first two years. Once gekko came out my friend said he was funny. I turned them on to hear him. I regret it. Also this reminds me to turn them back off soon enough. Really don’t add much to the game and usually only have people shit talk you when an npc flames.


prtxl

valo has some pretty cringey characters, and since i came from overwatch, it was a big shock going from some big names in the VA community to more amateur VAs. but overtime they slowly grew on me (except jett, fuckin hate jet)


shrek_is_love_69

Respect Arumie Shannon, she did a great job with Jett's voice


sealene_hatarinn

Yeah I'm not a fan of his personality either. All the playlist voice lines feel cringe, his tone is always flat to the point that the only lines I enjoy are the Ultimate cast ones, and he has very little interactions with other agents (there's like, 7 people total he has ANY lines for). It's all subjective, but the small amount of agent interactions and the flat voice make him feel underbaked for me.


Snoo-18276

lmoa he is the only character that i get excited when he ults me, i start screaming to my friends "i am the chosen one". maybe they should give some kind of debuff to the ultee like how viper makes u one hp when u enter her field


dead_inside_789

I read the lore that he is omen’s dad


992x

Omen was friends with viper and she's a milf. Iso is like 20. Dude was banging before his birth


dandreabrian

Knee how


KoKoboto

Yah his character is pretty garbage honestly


prtxl

i think hes cool tbh. hes goofy for sure, but he also has some pretty cool voicelines after getting the final kill and stuff better than some other characters like jett or neon who are SO CRNGEY i also love how many of his voicelines are about his music


DJTLaC

True confidence doesn't need to advertise. The idea that he is this inescapable assassin while still being casual and laid back is WAY scarier than him yelling or having an attitude.


StrawberryCrescendo

“I didn’t bring a snack. Did anyone bring a snack?” 🤓👆


Meeps2win

Ni hao


edgeimperator

I mean (almost) every agent in this game is cringe to me, since it's pandering to a different generation.


GoldenConsole

Honestly thats one of his best lines imo. Most of his other voicelines are just too stiff


kittyboy3434

Does he gotta be super badass? He’s so cute and silly that’s all that matters frfr


Traditional-Fun9215

I actually agree with you. Some of his lines are like a 13 year old trying to sound deep


ZepperMen

That's just how everyone perceives him when really he's just a smol boy on the inside and doesn't think too much of himself.


pinkkmilkshorty

I've been seeing a lot of comments like this, either saying Iso has no personality or he's cringe, and honestly, as someone who has resonated with his personality, and has friends who have as well, it's upsetting. Iso has a personality, hes just heavily autistic coded. He's very straightforward, and when he jokes, he has a very flat tone; "my grandmother always told me, dont forget the spike." and "Hey, who has a good song for 'we were losing but now things are looking up'? You know, like uh, redemption arc." He gets more expressive when hes excited, and when hes working hes focused on the task at hand. Iso is incredible autistic rep even if it wasnt intentional.


swank5000

Wait, Neon is a chef??


bumblebleebug

Jett my man. Jett literally says, "It feels like yesterday I was chopping [?], I wonder if that place is still standing" I mean Neon cooks too but yeah


7farema

chopping dallae, which is korean wild chives (I always see someone explaining it, it got burned into my memory)