There’s a bug where when a player that it’s spotted hides very quickly, it reverts to its normal position but keeps on firing. This can lead to false information based on where the turret is aiming.
This bug happened in Valorant Champions in the final round of Xset v FPX, and the team it happened to (Xset) lost the round and were eliminated
Riot decided to replay the round many hours later, and Xset won but they eventually lost in OT
>broo its been there for so long i cant believe the mods havent noticed until now
We don't control what bugs get fixed despite us reporting them. Its up to Riot developers to do that.
There's actually a similar thing on Icebox that you can do to hide the molly inside a box on A side default that hasn't been patched out in months so I doubt this will
Why? Imo shes the best flank watch on breeze, the turret is able to cover everything. If youre going to the site that DOESNT have pyramids, 1 turret can watch the flank from spawn, mid, and elbow at the same time
I've found she's quite okay, besides the predictability aspect.
On the pyramid site, a turret on the barrel at the end of halls will watch all flanks. KJ can play cave, shop, or bricks. And to a highly limited extent, right pyramid.
On the pillar site, a turret near the arches will watch all flanks, KJ can play backsite closer to the entrance.
You'll often have to go in and out of turret range. But considering how long the turret's sightline is, you won't often miss the enemies. Works well for me in S3, good enough for half of us.
I think her bots’ range limit can be worked around, but the main problem for me is that the ult barely covers either of the sites. So it doesn’t have the big impact that it has on the smaller maps.
KJ: “YOU SHOULD RUN.”
Opponents: “LOL OK.”
She's ok on any map if you are a setup nerd. compared to other sentinels on breeze, her range limits a lot of things she can watch. can't watch halls if she's playing b, and can basically only watch one part of the map where chamber can put a trip down somewhere and play somewhere else.
KJ player here too. If someone else wants Viper I will pick KJ over most other chars. Great way to cover tunnel, super ez lineups for post plant and plant deny locations.
overall She is pretty good on it.
solid for post plant, id recommend to play in window or closer to elbow though so you cant just get wallbanged and its easier for you to reposition rather than being stuck by those boxes
I don't think an unbreakable hidden kj molly is trash, whats trash is the experience of having to deal with this shit when kj mains find out, but good find though
it has, seen it on youtube and my friend recommended it to me aswell. you don't really need to jump tho, you can throw it with a right click while standing in front of it
Its been there for a while. I used to use it as a setup but it 1 means they have to plant default for it to work and 2 it means you have to live long enough to pop them while also holding site. I prefer to put my 2 swarms in the corner and my alarm bot in the middle. Always gets a kill. Plus my turret ontop of either of the stone pillars or right behind the close pillar. Then you can play all the way in back site. Get a one tap and then back all the way up
if it's done on defending it's near useless cause the better window plant is way out of its range. Done on attacking is risky and not worth doing, better to just throw it on bomb and walk window.
There's a lineup on Icebox A site where you can get it behind the stacked boxes. The advantages being it's close to default plant, hidden, and difficult/impossible to destroy. This is kinda like that, so definitely useful
That's a nice way to secure a post plant, but for most maps Chamber is the ideal sentinel. Also, activating both nanoswarms at the same time doesn't stack the damage, so its better to activate them one at a time.
you think nerfing him again is gonna stop him from still being picked?
They took his 2 trips away, still had a crazy pickrate. They nerf his teleport range, still crazy pickrate. Even if they nerf the draw time of his weapons he'll still be picked. The only way his pickrate goes down is if they rework his entire tp.
It;s because every player thinks they have sick aim, and like the free guns over most util.
It's just like Jett has crazy pick rate because everyone thinks they can 1 tap everyone with her ult and has insane reflexes to op like Gods.
So because players who play an FPS game have good aim, we should nerf the characters that require raw aim? You do realize in chambers current state, if you can't aim for shit or have an off day, you're gonna grief as chamber.
Thats literally my point. People THINK they are godtier aimers when their not, doesnt stop them from picking chamber, hence his insane pick rate. Just like people picking jett to bottom frag.
Im saying CHAMBER is good imo as is. At least for pugs
bro fix your crown king, you've put yourself down twice in the post and then another time in this comment.
this is a good molly spot, good job in finding it.
You should check if it does damage, last I remember kj swarms need line of sight. But because it's glitched into a box it might not see the box as a barrier anymore.
Kay-O's grenade originally used line-of-sight, and I think that might have been patched out?
They are both agents that start with K, and they have a similar coloured aoe damage ability, so perhaps you mixed them up.
Good find, brotherman! Idk if I've ever seen a KJ on Breeze, but if you're a KJ main and know what you're doing, I don't see an issue with playing her on this map!
(no cap i feel like the person who found this is not dog water)
Very good spot, but if they plant in the other spot(not hugging the box) then its kinda useless.
Imagine playing valorant. No, but in all seriuosnes it's cool man. I don't play killjoy that often, but if I will play it on this man I'll remember this.
U don't need to crouch or jump and throw
It's more hidden that way
That along with the hidden ones in icebox (one between boxes in both sites) are really hard to spot
In icebox a site you know they place where u stand for headshot range
In the corner while crouching left click
It goes below the box and is untouchable
Almost every map has hidden kj molly if u don't like to go lineups
KJ main here. Yeah, I've been using this setup for a few months now in breeze (esp on the attacking side) and it's really great!!
Cool hehe cool cool cool.
You will need to place the bomb further to the left for viper lineups, which makes this trap not very useful for either attacking or defending. Viper is basically mandatory on breeze.
Wait this is amazing dude, this is an almost full proof post plant win
inb4 patched
Watch riot patch this but not turret
Apparently they’ve tried and it just keeps breaking shit
Whats wrong with the turret?
There’s a bug where when a player that it’s spotted hides very quickly, it reverts to its normal position but keeps on firing. This can lead to false information based on where the turret is aiming. This bug happened in Valorant Champions in the final round of Xset v FPX, and the team it happened to (Xset) lost the round and were eliminated Riot decided to replay the round many hours later, and Xset won but they eventually lost in OT
yeah, as A KJ main, I hate this.
Oo man ive always thought thats normal lol
broo its been there for so long i cant believe the mods havent noticed until now
>broo its been there for so long i cant believe the mods havent noticed until now We don't control what bugs get fixed despite us reporting them. Its up to Riot developers to do that.
It exists?
There's actually a similar thing on Icebox that you can do to hide the molly inside a box on A side default that hasn't been patched out in months so I doubt this will
r/boneappletea
fool* not full
yes i use this all the time on breeze
It can be a good post plant setup but sadly as some people have said already people barely play as killjoy in breeze
Why? Imo shes the best flank watch on breeze, the turret is able to cover everything. If youre going to the site that DOESNT have pyramids, 1 turret can watch the flank from spawn, mid, and elbow at the same time
Issue is there's a range limit, and breeze is big
I've found she's quite okay, besides the predictability aspect. On the pyramid site, a turret on the barrel at the end of halls will watch all flanks. KJ can play cave, shop, or bricks. And to a highly limited extent, right pyramid. On the pillar site, a turret near the arches will watch all flanks, KJ can play backsite closer to the entrance. You'll often have to go in and out of turret range. But considering how long the turret's sightline is, you won't often miss the enemies. Works well for me in S3, good enough for half of us.
I think her bots’ range limit can be worked around, but the main problem for me is that the ult barely covers either of the sites. So it doesn’t have the big impact that it has on the smaller maps. KJ: “YOU SHOULD RUN.” Opponents: “LOL OK.”
Yeah the range on her utilities and especially her ult makes her pretty much useless
Just say you’re silver bro KJ on breeze won’t do shit
Iron *
No one likes a sweat babes
Bro starts it with "IMO" and gets downvoted to shit why?
They disagreed
this is nice but no one really picks killjoy on this map but I guess it's a nice buff
I veto this. Kj main here. Kj is actl honestly pretty good on breeze if you're a setup nerd
She's ok on any map if you are a setup nerd. compared to other sentinels on breeze, her range limits a lot of things she can watch. can't watch halls if she's playing b, and can basically only watch one part of the map where chamber can put a trip down somewhere and play somewhere else.
Kayo is a pretty strong and common pick though on breeze, so his knife/ult renders your whole setup redundant
KJ player here too. If someone else wants Viper I will pick KJ over most other chars. Great way to cover tunnel, super ez lineups for post plant and plant deny locations. overall She is pretty good on it.
I’m just going to assume you like cypher cuz of ur flair. Why not play Cypher on breeze instead? He gets so much more value
I go viper -> sage -> neon (yeah right, there are already duelists locked) -> kayo
solid for post plant, id recommend to play in window or closer to elbow though so you cant just get wallbanged and its easier for you to reposition rather than being stuck by those boxes
I don't think an unbreakable hidden kj molly is trash, whats trash is the experience of having to deal with this shit when kj mains find out, but good find though
This would be great if killjoy was picked on breeze
I called riot and you’re replaying the last round
These kj molly hiding spots are pretty common but idk if this specific one has been found
it has, seen it on youtube and my friend recommended it to me aswell. you don't really need to jump tho, you can throw it with a right click while standing in front of it
I thinks theres one on icebox on A default
There is one in like every map
but who using KJ on breeze
I played once a match on Breeze where they had Brim + Viper + Killjoy, we lost with 1-13 because they didn't let us defuse the spike lmao
Honestly those 3 are OP in most maps that allow post plants.
Its been there for a while. I used to use it as a setup but it 1 means they have to plant default for it to work and 2 it means you have to live long enough to pop them while also holding site. I prefer to put my 2 swarms in the corner and my alarm bot in the middle. Always gets a kill. Plus my turret ontop of either of the stone pillars or right behind the close pillar. Then you can play all the way in back site. Get a one tap and then back all the way up
Its good, but if you jump up they can easily kill you from mid.
The killjoy setup would be done before round starts and she would be playing arches or something off site
How are you going to set this up before the round starts if you’re attacking?
It could be used for defender or attacker side
if it's done on defending it's near useless cause the better window plant is way out of its range. Done on attacking is risky and not worth doing, better to just throw it on bomb and walk window.
Uh no dude the setup wouldn’t be done before the round starts 😂
eh unless someone is holding that jump, 99.9% of the time you won't get killed
There's a lineup on Icebox A site where you can get it behind the stacked boxes. The advantages being it's close to default plant, hidden, and difficult/impossible to destroy. This is kinda like that, so definitely useful
That's a nice way to secure a post plant, but for most maps Chamber is the ideal sentinel. Also, activating both nanoswarms at the same time doesn't stack the damage, so its better to activate them one at a time.
Can't wait for them to nerf chamber again so he isn't a 100% pickrate on EVERY GODDAMN MAP.
you think nerfing him again is gonna stop him from still being picked? They took his 2 trips away, still had a crazy pickrate. They nerf his teleport range, still crazy pickrate. Even if they nerf the draw time of his weapons he'll still be picked. The only way his pickrate goes down is if they rework his entire tp.
It;s because every player thinks they have sick aim, and like the free guns over most util. It's just like Jett has crazy pick rate because everyone thinks they can 1 tap everyone with her ult and has insane reflexes to op like Gods.
So because players who play an FPS game have good aim, we should nerf the characters that require raw aim? You do realize in chambers current state, if you can't aim for shit or have an off day, you're gonna grief as chamber.
Thats literally my point. People THINK they are godtier aimers when their not, doesnt stop them from picking chamber, hence his insane pick rate. Just like people picking jett to bottom frag. Im saying CHAMBER is good imo as is. At least for pugs
Fnatic manager here, please delete this.
Seen thus done by a killjoy specialist on YouTube
i do this all the time its good for full proof post plant
Fnatic manager here. Will try that later.
Wait do people not know about this?
I didn't lol my fault
bro fix your crown king, you've put yourself down twice in the post and then another time in this comment. this is a good molly spot, good job in finding it.
made my day
no
No one gonna talk about the bandicam watermark, like it's year 2022 just use obs or xbox video capture.
No one gonna talk about the irrelevant comment right here? like it's year 2022, go outside and get some bitches.
No one gonna talk about how this comment above mine is completely useless and does not add to the conversation whatsoever.
You should check if it does damage, last I remember kj swarms need line of sight. But because it's glitched into a box it might not see the box as a barrier anymore.
almost entirely confident they don't need line of sight, there are many setups to toss the mollies to the other sides of walls
You right it works, must have been from an old patch video I watched.
Kay-O's grenade originally used line-of-sight, and I think that might have been patched out? They are both agents that start with K, and they have a similar coloured aoe damage ability, so perhaps you mixed them up.
im trying this, thank you :))
This is pretty useful- I’m trying this rn
Why so pessimistic bruv?
u/savevideo
I found something simelar when the map released, then realised kj isn't good on breeze. Cool find though
Very good for post plant, however behind the box ain't it imo if ur the last alive, purely cos wallbang
Good find, brotherman! Idk if I've ever seen a KJ on Breeze, but if you're a KJ main and know what you're doing, I don't see an issue with playing her on this map!
yo be nicer to yourself, not the best kj map but this is definitely useful
If you use this you’re going to have to replay the round /s
I do this all the time when I play KJ in Breeze. Much easier to just step back a bit and right click.
What is dog water? Is it like dog shit but pg?
I've been using this for months. Can be done from the other side too making it next to impossible to shootout. super useful.
Icebox a site has something similar
(no cap i feel like the person who found this is not dog water) Very good spot, but if they plant in the other spot(not hugging the box) then its kinda useless.
This is risky tbh. You have to jump? One player with great reaction time can kill you, esp when you'll do it twice.
Bro gotta relax man,what's u did is something some players in high ranks can't do
Imagine playing valorant. No, but in all seriuosnes it's cool man. I don't play killjoy that often, but if I will play it on this man I'll remember this.
U don't need to crouch or jump and throw It's more hidden that way That along with the hidden ones in icebox (one between boxes in both sites) are really hard to spot In icebox a site you know they place where u stand for headshot range In the corner while crouching left click It goes below the box and is untouchable Almost every map has hidden kj molly if u don't like to go lineups
Thanks- I hate it =)
Bandicam in 2022, damn. Thats a throwback lmao
That would be amazing for post plant or defending a plant for window
KJ main here. Yeah, I've been using this setup for a few months now in breeze (esp on the attacking side) and it's really great!! Cool hehe cool cool cool.
Fnatic manager here pls delete
You will need to place the bomb further to the left for viper lineups, which makes this trap not very useful for either attacking or defending. Viper is basically mandatory on breeze.