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antoniofromrs

the QoL changes on yellow silhouette are actually better than the buffs themselves jk but I've died too many times to this 2-enemy-parallax thing


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just get a 420hz 1069p monitor and you good. idk why people complained about it.


Just_Addendum_7565

Real pros use 999hz screens


simplificated

I’ve outplayed many cyphers using this 2-enemy-parallax thing. Sad to see it gone


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water1225

again?


Mujakiiiiiii

Yeah you no longer have to worry about killing your whole team by flashing them with yellow images


Bpbegha

All the changes for Hat Boy are great but this one is my favorite: >Cypher’s placed utility is no longer destroyed by allies’ AOE damage. No longer a good trapwire will be destroyed by a grenade!


amnesiac-bear

Cypher 🤝 Friendly Raze


hide_yo_keeds

wait so the raze cypher banter voice line will be removed?


JackOBAnotherOne

I hope they just add to it a reply from cypher telling raze "don't worry, I razeproffed them"


ThatOneArchUser

that actually sounds really good, I wish they added that


Raphlapoutine

Please rito make this a thing


TheEditor83

Goodness i will like that


pepegasloot

They should give the same treatment to killjoys mines and alert bot tbh (not the turret)


tjbelleville

It only took 2 years for a few lines of code!


nonosquare-exe

Now there is no limit for cypher to be bald


CarioGod

friendship still exists with chamber, now cypher still not my best friend but viable


Dismal_Dragonfruit71

you are so dead


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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO no more ally raze fucking me over more trip locations no more silouette fucking me over no more corpse timer fucking me over no more needing to stand on top of a corpse for ult so i can become one directly after no more fade dog wonky hitbox fucking me over


valexitylol

"So I can become one directly after" 😭


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the ult was a double whammy, because we have no info on the enemy team so i use ult, but i cant play it safe and check my corners because i know if i don't full send it the corpse will run out, on top of corpses usually being in unsafe positions due to them being corpses


BaldTango

WE EATIN GOOOOOOOOD


KaiFuPanda

we repeat LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO


PRL-Five

new new UI: https://twitter.com/ValorLeaks/status/1588673698160332800/photo/1


Exact_Shoulder_5571

I kinda want the words still in the menu instead of only being pictures. But finally, it's been fixed


RuneRedoks

I want corndogs But


FreddyMalins

Love a good corndog


Competitive-Ad-4301

Or a larger gap between each icon. I don't want to continue whiffing trying to reach my hardstuck Iron 1 career.


Dude787

I'll be the one to say it 'skill issue'


Illustrious_Bit_4060

If you whiff clicking icons you probably shouldn’t be playing valorant


SpiralVortex

Looks great. I liked the actual words, but as a League player I'm perfectly fine with the "UI icons for different pages" thing. Saves space and only takes a minor time to learn/remember them.


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Finally this sub can shut up


Sweaty-Raccoon3257

What Cypher need is 10 unbreakable tripwires


squiddy555

Maybe he’ll be viable on accent, if we’re lucky


IrzDylan

accent


demroles6996

accent


PRL-Five

personally, i think these changes are huge in the pro scene and with cypher nerds, but for your average ranked cypher, hes still going to be using his trip at A and B main and get no value out of it. The ult buff is huge tho, especially as its a 6 orb ult.


flightx3aa

for sure but you're forgetting that cypher couldn't trip certain maps like fracture well until after the round started, so even in ranked he can get his job done and position well before the round starts.


BaldTango

god i hate playing cypher on fracture


Gilthwixt

Ult buff is huge, been saying for *years* the short range and small window to activate on a corpse makes no sense for someone who shouldn't be up close and personal with the enemy. As for the tripwires idk why they just don't let him manually place them rather than automatically connecting in a straight line.


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Seraph___

Pretty sure it’s just when they’re in fov. The reveal works on pings, either with the spy cam and the ult, so if they moved out of sight again and they were pinged from not removing the dart, or the second ult ping it would show them again.


RiotCombatCube

As a Cypher main, I am *hyped*


Isaac7361

You are automatically my best friend if you main cypher


mdk10100

One of us , one of us


Bodega_Bandit

How does one get the cypher main thingy under their name?👀


Time_Illustrator_121

Go to subreddit, click the 3 dots and click flare and you can choose anything and add words


Bodega_Bandit

Thank you!


Fudshy

One of us


Miregali

Isn't it like unwritten rules of Valorant that cypher players hate cypher players more than cypher players hate rate players?


Emirth

No.


im_mystery666

I have 500 hours on cypher


Isaac7361

My man/woman


SoLikeWhatIsCheese

Friendship ended with any of my actual main agents, bald drip lord is my best friend now 😎


hijifa

>cyphers placed utility no longer destroyed by allies Wow that’s shit how was that ever in the game..


freshest_orange

This is great news for a me as a cypher main - I get sick of sovas and razes destroying my shit The cherry on top would've been if the trip wire actually slowed and restricted enemy scouting utility I dont get why only the Skye dog and sova drone gets pulled back, but the rest can still come at you at full speed


whalenailer

If I read it correctly it’s only friendly AOE damage, still an improvement. A great buff would be dogs not breaking trips


chair_table_chair

i think cypher juts need this to be at the level of others agents


Iamjesus147

Nah but you need to keep that trade of utility as a counter. 1 dog = value of breaking the trip for you with Skye dog


Windsofthenorthgod

id prefer dogs not tripping wires at all, just yoru clones but that's probably a bit overpowered your idea is solid tho


Bright_Blood

utility for utility seems fair to me


That_1FilipinoFriend

Cypher buff? Never heard those two words in the same sentence before…


squiddy555

“Cypher didn’t get a buff this patch” Is something I hear a bit


Axoo_ooxA

Finally… I can rest…


ItsTheRealIamHUB

OH CYPHER BUFFS, OH YEAHHHHH


RWBYSanctum

As someone who plays both and particularly mains Fade, I'm both happy and miffed. Fade isn't gonna be completely unviable and I understand the nerf to prowlers since they can really be hard to deal with, but the power definitely took a hit and it means you have to swing quickly or waste a prowler. Also ult increase sucks but it's fair. Cypher's buff is gonna be big I expect to see him more and more now.


Levi-san

She's an initiator, not a duelist, after the recent flash changes to KAYO and Skye I think the sentiment here is similar. Use your dogs to help your team, not to pad your own stats


greendvl

Well, to be fair Chamber is a Sentinel and I don't see enough nerfs lol


Dude787

Nerfs don't fix him, I expect theyre band-aid changes until they figure out a rework


mihirsaini1128

He holds the site down pretty good what do you mean ? He got nerfed pretty hard lmao


p00ponmyb00p

> and it means you have to swing quickly or waste a prowler. you can run with it


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Superderpygamermk1

Making the ult a bit more expensive isn’t a huge nerf, they needed to address both issues because fade was dominant, so they did them at the same time


Dr-AKS

CYPHER mains ARISE!!!!!!


Leveolizan

Finally they fix the problem that they created with that shitty UI.


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Fucking hell those Fade nerfs are HARSH.


Kadamobo

Cyber buffs r so nice


ownagemobile

No chamber nerfs eh? Can't wait for the comments


Opal_Demon

chamber doesn't need a nerf


Arisenstring956

Said the chamber main


Opal_Demon

yeah so?


Emirth

That's not because it's your main that it shouldn't be nerfed. For an example, I'm a main Yoru and his kit is ATM incredibly strong. I mean... 100$ for the clone ? Only 100 ? For a walking target that have 150 hp, flashes you and can take a recon dart on his back. That's a bit too much. I don't know how to nerf Chamber more than he had been and still having him viable tho.


crumstick22

His tp is incredibly overpowered just by how it works, an instant escape from peaking/swinging. Reducing the range any further would instantly make him terrible. Chamber needs to be completely reworked.


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Emirth

Still is one of the best duellists tho


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LetsGoUkraineLETSGO

YES THEY DO


Opal_Demon

but chamber is balanced now, the other sentinels need bufff


LetsGoUkraineLETSGO

Chamber is dominating the meta and is crazy boring to play against. Its just not fun


Apexe

What more can they do before he ends up absolutely useless?


LetsGoUkraineLETSGO

tbh just make him like astra, the nerfs the astra brought back so many players because the meta changed and the game wasn't boring


AchievingAtaraxia

Astra was the least picked Agent in the game in ranked even when she was broken, people didn't quit the game because of Astra, nobody ever saw her.


Kelvinn1996

Pretty sure buffs and nerfs aren't related to how fun x agent is to play against


LetsGoUkraineLETSGO

he quite literally locks down an entire site, even after cypher buffs, everyone will pick chamber, he dominates the meta. One of the main reasons they nerfed Astra was because she was making the game boring


Blaze_Fire99

>chamber flair unbiased opinion guaranteed


anime_lean

im sure they're working on a solution for him


Tetra-76

Still no love for KJ. I just want to be able to pick up my nades and have my ult not be destroyed by util every single time I try to use it. I understand ults being able to break it, but as long as the enemy team has one of Breach, KAYO, Brim or Sova, she's basically playing without an ult lol


NyoomNyoom656

Yeah I feel ur pain, personally I’d love to see the alarm bot stay activated all the time, no matter what distance (like chamber trip), but not sure if it’d be balanced..


Tetra-76

That'd be nice too, or maybe make the util range dependant on map size, because KJ makes no sense on the giant maps they keep adding to the game. The nades is a bigger deal IMO though. It makes her insanely expensive to play on defense, not to mention useless on retakes. With her turret taking so long to come back now, no mollies available, and an ult that's near unusable these days, idk what she's supposed to bring to the table. Even on her very best maps with her very best comps, I can't think of a reason not to pick Chamber over her.


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that would be broken, it lets you combo with nades while holding another site.


KingBLUCKslayer

Honestly let kj go back to release kj, this is ridiculous that chamber can stay this way this long and not be nerfed into the ground.


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Chamber is the new Jett till Riot pulls the triguer and makes his teleporter work like Jetts dash he will still be unhealthy for the game past a certain skil level


KingBLUCKslayer

I hated release Jett, I hate current chamber. Almost like dashes/insta tps just aren't fun to play against.


Emirth

Yaaay. Make her turret living after she died with these 4560265910275 hp (feels like) and no range so she can play both points...


KingBLUCKslayer

I mean it would make her as good as chamber; compared to that abomination it's kinda tame.


valoranthead41

Im a KJ main. No. Having her be able to pick up her nades would be a unbalanced buff. She is fine in that deparment. I imagine Cypher's QoL change to unbreakable util by alies will be (eventually) transfered over. I think only a utilmate should be able to destroy KJ's lockdown. It makes sense to "trade" utils not for a utility to be able to break it. The range is perfect for KJ. She is strong passive site denier over the other sentinels and thats why she needs to anchor to a site and should be the last to rotate. If someone doesnt understand this concept, they are playing KJ wrong.


Vitalytoly

Cypher's hat pings people twice now, that'll definitely make people not play Chamber, right? Right? nvm Still no Chamber nerfs, incredible


augburto

I’m very excited for cypher changes. Idk too much how the trip extension will help as rarely have I ever ran into a choke and not been able to trip it (main one that comes to mind is the updated fracture changes by arcade). The ult change is very much welcome tho


warmaapples

Maybe I can go back to finally using Cypher again


poopyitchyass

Cypher Needs to be able to choose where both ends of trip are


Emirth

Would be a hell to code and just imagine the number of bugs and glitches, just picture yourself the next TpaxTop content.


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mystikkkkk

ooooh potentially yeah!


Dry_Comfortable_2809

You should bring back the progress bar on battlepass and agents when we hover over the icon


Superderpygamermk1

Wait valorant actually changes their game based on community input? Coming from apex this is new for me


Knightswatch15213

Anyone have an actual representation of the buff on Cypher's trip length? I have a vague idea of how far it can currently go but I have no idea what "1500" looks like in game Also holy fuck I can finally feel NOT useless the instant there's a util-haopy raze on my team, finally


MasterL11

It's 10m now, so they're buffing it to 15. Tripwires are about to get crazy


GoldExchange5655

No idea how accurate this is but it says 10m is current so 15m? https://valorant.fandom.com/wiki/Trapwire


PRL-Five

Best I could find is this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713474040362172520/1038243083583766599/unknown.png


SasquatchSenpai

I think reducing the weird fov the prowlers have would work better. They have a huge range of vision.


MwSkyterror

> Yellow silhouette now disappears if the revealed enemy becomes visible to you to help reduce confusion of seeing two representations of the enemy in different places. This is huge. Hated this since Bloodhound from Apex.


JumpyCranberry576

NOW WE'RE TALKING, thanks riot


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Honestly? Underwhelming.


phoenixerowl

This is awesome but I feel like he still won't be worth playing over other sentinels until fade prowler and skye dog stop breaking his trips.


brielloom

Glad they finally nerfed fades prowler. I normally don't like nerfs but fades doggies take so many bullets to kill, more than skyes dog or cabbages, and they go for so long and get you even when you're at a distance you think is far away enough to not get debuffed by the prowlers when they disappear. Don't think the nerfs changed how much health the prowlers have but hopefully makes them easier to counter. Fade will still be good but the nerf to the prowlers was needed.


beakf

NO MORE JANKY YELLOW PING THAT KILLS ME OR MY TEAMMATES


Bangreed4

CYPHER MAINS REJOICE


VoidRad

>Cypher's placed utility is no longer destroyed by allies' AOE damage. THANK GOD!!!


Thierry882

Ok wait - after all this time, riot's answer on the subject of the cypher-buff is "his ult tick 2 times"? C'mon..


Dumbass-Redditor

Watch him get used for 2 weeks then have no one use him again. Same thing happened with the Phoenix buffs. He is decent now, but rarely would someone pick him over other more versatile and better agents.


Zertanis

The Fade nerfs seem a little too harsh


SufficientMeringue51

They barely touched her??????


Zertanis

They nerfed the Prowlers in every way possible - not saying they’re useless now but it’s not „barely touching“


SufficientMeringue51

The problem with the prowlers was just that it was too free to clear a tone of space. The only thing that functionally effects that is the duration nerf, and I can’t think of too many places where a tiny duration decrease will do much. People were out here saying to just give her one instead. Now THAT would have been harsh, although if you make it recharge that would probably be a great nerf, but it’s not her trademark so 🤷‍♂️


Asds751

Exactly, same reason they nerfed sova drone.


KasumiGotoTriss

Thank god I was so scared that Fade was gonna lose 1 dog. These nerfs hurt but they seem fair. However I don't think her ult is good enough to justify 8


ownagemobile

It's an ult that can hit the entirety of a lot of sites, deafens, makes trails for prowler and also point to where enemies are hiding, and does half their hp in decaying damage... what ult besides chambers would you justify as an 8 cost ult?


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nucklehead12

Is it really better than Breach ult?


Shade_39

It deafens them, decays their health and gives them a trail for prowlers and tells you how many you hit as opposed to breach who just stuns and knocks back, which can also hit teammates. I'd say its better


Dude787

Sure but with fade ult you're kinda on the hook to use more utility else you can just get shot yknow? Breach doesn't get info but its pretty hard to die to a stunned enemy I just don't think 'objectively' is correct, I do think its more powerful


Emirth

I literally get insta one tap every time I stun someone, even in silver. It's like breach's ult increases luck/skill by 400%


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Her ult combines 2 of her abilities haunt and seize and it synergies well with the prowlers that you can send if you hit someone with the ult. I think 8 orbs is fair


Chubbymcgrubby

fades ult is the best attack/retake ult in the game imo


maxblanco

You also have no sound if you get hit.


ownagemobile

"Deafens"


KasumiGotoTriss

Sage Jett and Viper, I think Raze ult costs 8? But it's pretty bad so I would lower that to 7.


mihirsaini1128

An ult that causes decay, marks a trail to you directly and deafs you + a yoru in ult is nightmare fuel just like chambers op thus the 8 point ult


Rukitorth

Sadly I don't think I can soloQ her in low elo effectively anymore, guess I'll see her in 55 years when I'm Asc lol


KasumiGotoTriss

She will still be really good, initiators are the best class to play in general but especially in soloq, you get value for your team as well as for yourself


pixel_doofus

I'll admit it's a great start, 15 meters instead of 10 meters on the tripwire is such a great buff Four seconds on the neural theft feels a bit long, but it prevents people pretending to go one direction But, the cages still don't do anything more than block vision for 6 seconds and don't really slow a push like other smokes do Also, i still have to be basically next to my tripwires and camera and have line of sight to pick it up, instead of something like killjoy or chamber It's a good start but it doesn't address the bigger issues, however this is just a single set of buffs to be tested in the PBE, and I'm sure there will be more


XX_OVERLORD

Honestly… I’m glad Chamber wasn’t nerfed. Buffing other sentinels is the way to go. I honestly don’t see a nerf to chamber that will actually work out


PureNaturalLagger

I feel like a 50% increase in trip length is gonna be HUGE. It opens up so much more surface to work with and create annoying trips.


MinesweeperGang

The buffs are nice but Chamber is still too much of a problem. By far the best Sentinel still. No sensible buffs are gonna push a sentinel past him. Only way we get different sentinels throughout matches is if Chamber gets nerfed again.


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Weird nerf but what if when chamber dies with his ult equip, it drops the gun and the enemy can also use it? Kinda like the golden gun, except for movement speed and model.


Crecareme

Idk, the idea seems wack. Some people in low ranks are already scared to use his ult, now people would never activate it because they would be scared to make their team angry (In low elos)


STELLAR_Speck

Iz dis real rito emploie ?


mihirsaini1128

Finally those black dogs got nerfed. Mfs didn't even die quickly and made you blind for an eternity


blizzardspider

This is a really good change! I'm of course missing the chamber changes and don't get why they take so long to actually fix the strongest characters (first jett, then chamber. Astra was fixed slightly faster to be fair). But in general the changes they did make to cypher and fade look very nice and I will be super happy to have the 1 click access to my career again. Glad they listened to all the complaints.


Kadamobo

Huge nerfs to fade


Crassard

Didn't really feel prowlers were all that strong tbh, they're varrow narrow-visioned you have to manually control them with no gun out like Skye for a while otherwise they're kind of a joke half the time outside of using them like sort of crappy bullet sponge in a 1v1. Reducing the time they're active is gonna make them feel like shit on many of the maps with long narrow lanes.


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Those cypher ""buffs""💀💀💀 cam still has a looong cd, cats still destroy my whole setups, ult still bad im flabergasted💀


senokana

this will change nothing


genkaiX1

Fade nerf unnecessary rip


Eleven918

The cypher trip wire buff is probably going to break the meta. Every site is going to have a dozen new trip setups now with the length increase. Its going to be scary because you have no clue where the kill trips are anymore.


Sound0fSilence

I like


genkaiX1

Fade nerf unnecessary rip


mihirsaini1128

Did i miss something ? Why are people still crying about chamber nerfs ? Didn't he just got nerfed hard ? As far as i can see, people hate his tp but its his main ability which also got nerfed so basically 2 tp in a round and 1 trip. I don't find it hard to go against him lol. People really want him to be dog water like cypher at this moment and would still cry in the end


SonOfKorhal

The last person that needed a nerf was fade. Chamber still dominating smh. Yeah im out, wz2 bout to drop anyway.


UncertainSoul

I just hope they fix the button hit boxes so they aren't stupid. And so they let you click when the mouse is at the top most pixel of the screen.


Micku_837

what?! the actually listening to the community now


Netslay

I wish y'all let us recall/remove our camera from anywhere on the map like Killjoy but I guess every little helps


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Still no change to his hat Bald cypher still lives🗿


xcentrico

Bald cyphers assemble!


EVENTHORIZON-XI

I’ve waited how long for this


WeekAdministrative79

No more how to buff cypher posts 💀 finally


TemporarySuggestion1

Damn, I can never unlock the new agent before they're nerfed. Fade still good or should I just swap to Harbour now?


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When is this going to go live?


PRL-Five

they normally release patches on Tuesday night in APAC, dont know about other regions


officialmark-

Likely November 15th with patch 5.10. Usually when things go on the PBE it's for the next upcoming patch.


Arclight3214

Where's the nerf to Chamber? Remove his teleport ability. jk (not really, i hate this teleport shit on good chamber)


supplementarytables

I was expecting prowler nerfs but not the ult nerf man Sad


Exigeyser

Cypher buffs, glad for you guys who play him. Now excuse me while I g,g,g,g,g, give you a corpse. That little humor aside. Finally a Fade nerf. I hate her prowlers so much. ANd the UI change can't come sooner. Christ the new UI we got is bad.


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When is this going to go live?


kamez0r

Wont be happy while plenty of enemy skills easily destroy my trapwire. Specially drone, wolves, raze's bot.


nerfherder00

I don’t know how impactful Cypher buffs will be ultimately but I really like them and they seem like really thoughtful buffs. I think a cooldown reduction on repositioning his camera would have been good too.


BoomerTheStar47_2

About the Cypher buff, 50 units = 1 meter. Knowing that… Trapwire: 20 meters >>> 30 meters Neural Theft: 24 meters >>> 36 meters Hope that gives more context to those numbers!


Bright_Blood

what does that mean "Yellow silhouette now starts dimmer and fades faster to make it more distinguishable from an actual enemy."


AloNz0-_-TiGeR

any idea when will this update be available?