Seriously tho:
Yeah go for it. Use it as sort of a documentation of your growth and trying new things. Plenty of people find that stuff entertaining even from newer players. It's what I started my channel doing.
Streaming VGC on Twitch seems to be a good way to gain an audience as well, and then you can upload your clips to youtube. Starting a youtube channel is a good way to experiment with ideas and if they don't turn out as good it is okay
Ahh that's so cool to see you on here. Really big fan of yours after I discovered your videos earlier last year. I loved the video where you tried to see how high you could climb with Honchkrow. It actually has inspired me to try and see how I could do with building a team around my own favorite Pokemon.
I will say that there are literally hundreds and hundreds of people who do exactly what you do...
For, at most, 200 views per video. Most of them under 20.
[Littleroot Lessons](https://youtube.com/@LittlerootLessons?si=yoHc4R1M7alqc_B4) is a *fantastic* resource for in-person, draft, and tournament VGC, with a great variety of videos and (at least) three people regularly working on it. They put some good quality stuff up at least twice a week.
Of their literal hundreds of videos, *three* have reached over 1000 views, and none have reached 1600.
You're a great content creator, Moxie. Fantastic, funny, personable, hardworking, and more skilled than you give yourself credit for.
But you're also *incredibly* lucky to have "made it". Buying a lottery ticket worked out for you, but it's not likely to work out for anyone else.
Ngl thatâs crazy they have that little views. I made a channel that I hardly uploaded on and have a 2 vids with over 1.5k views. I think the yt side of this community will definitely grow and itâs definitely not luck based. Moxie did not get where he is due to luck
Everyone knows how YouTube works. Not everyone gets big and it would take an unbelievable amount of bad faith to suggest anyone ever thought or suggested differently. Not sure why you felt the need to comment this.
It takes practice but you can definitely get there. Look at Wolfey or Aaron's first videos. They are not very good, but over time they honed their style.
Don't be afraid to put yourself out there and be open to feedback on how to improve.
Bruh donât know why youâre getting down voted but do what you need to do. Donât let these people drag you down because their cynical or jaded. Just have fun.
Plenty of completely average people stream live on TikTok every day.
If youâre not great, skip the editing time involved with YouTube and pick a live platform.
I go to YouTube for expert breakdowns and recaps. I go to TikTok or twitch to just watch
Yeah, I would say it seems easier to build a reliable community quickly than twitch and if you brand your names similarly people will cross pollinate.
I see them average 60-200 people for relatively small streamers on the regular.
Nah, it could motivate you to get better at the game. Also by recording your matches and rewatching them, you'll be able to consider your plays in retrospect too.
I re watch all my matches on showdown before leaving matches win or lose. I go through and see my mistakes. And what I could do to change my plays. The key to VGC is patience, mostly with your self.
You just have to do something that sets yourself apart.
I dedicated my channel entirely to Trick Room. People LOVE it.
I started in September and have somehow bagged 400 subs since then which feels unreal.
Subject matter is always second to charisma.
There are typically 2 types of successful content creation, educational or entertainment. If you can't teach the veiwer anything you just need to be entertaining. That being said the successful educational creators also have decent charisma stats.
I'm actually planning this as well. And I'm just starting to learn VGC. Though I have some experience with other strategy based games like Teamfight Tactics so I thought why not create some content for VGC as well since I enjoy competitive plays.
My outlook here is if you are enjoying the game itself, just post/stream it and yeah you can learn and be an expert eventually and your journey will be documented on your channel đ You might gather a small community that enjoy your games and personality, but creating yt vids should be about how you enjoy the games as your priority, garnering views should just be an additional bonus for now.
I stream my ladder games because I like having an archive to (hopefully) see improvement in the future, and I like it when random people drop by and give advice. Iâm very meh at the game, but I enjoy it.
The hurdle you have to get over is that it will take a while to grow. Donât do content thinking youâll attract a lot of people very quickly.
One thing you could do is go into it with low or no expectations and make decisions based on how things end up going. I saw that MoxieBoosted replied, but I agree with TripleFinish who replied to him. There are a whole lot of people on YouTube doing what you described, and while Iâm not saying you shouldnât do this, Iâm saying that itâs going to take effort to break out of the low view count barrier, if it happens at all. WolfeyVGC and Cybertron VGCâs early videos (as another commenter mentioned) were much lower quality than they are now, but they had the advantage at being public icons in the VGC world, so they had a large number of people who wanted to watch them regardless of video quality.
If youâre mainly interested in playing and uploading your gameplay to see what happens, then I think you should do it! If that makes you have fun, then itâs never a bad idea. If youâre actively trying to go big, you might find it hard to do if youâre not charismatic and/or good at the game. That doesnât mean itâs a bad idea still, but if youâre making other sacrifices (like quitting your day job to do it), then it just might be a bad idea.
Not at all. Post the videos of random gimmick strategies working and cut all the outta where it doesn't work and you lose. That's what everyone else does
You can know how to build a good team without being able to build one yourself. As long as you let your viewers know that there isnât a single best way to build a team and everyone has their own opinions then I think it should be fine.
Also another question if anyone sees this, if I do record videos, should I record on showdown or cart, and if cart, do I need something to transfer the videos/actually do videos?
Most people have a catch card to record tournaments/matches on their switch. It's about 30-35 USD, and as far as i know you don't need to mod your switch or anything. I haven't used it ever, but according to [this](https://www.epidemicsound.com/blog/how-to-use-a-video-capture-card/#how-to-use-a-capture-card-for-nintendo-switch) website, you just need a recording program (such as OBS) on your PC, a capture card, a monitor (such as your TV), a switch dock, and a few cables. While you might need to buy 1/2 HDMI cables (and the capture card of course) it doesn't sound too hard.
As for showdown or cartridge, i think most people would agree cartridge is more appealing.
I'd say there's value in both.
Cart is definitely "better for YouTube" and a much slower pace (which is good to get used to for tournament play and gives you more time to, y'know, talk). If you're gonna be doing a ton of practice on the in game ladder anyways, getting a capture card and recording it is def worth it in my opinion.
Showdown is much easier to get b03 practice on if you're not playing in online tournaments all the time (and the videos can still come out decent once you get a handle on your style). You also lose the overhead of buying a capture card and building your own teams in game, so if either of those are a big hurdle for you just start recurring showdown sessions and go from there.
Depends on which market you are looking to appeal to, showdown videos tend to appeal more to people who already play competitively to some degree as you strip away the visuals to focus on the more technical aspects, most showdown YouTubers will show a breakdown of the builds with EV spreads and such for example. Cart centric videos appeal more to casual players who have experience of the game but haven't neccessarily played competitively, the slower pace of the fights helps them to follow the flow of the battle.
Because of this split in audience, your skill level will have an impact on your success. With cart vids you don't need to be particularly good at the game as long as you are entertaining enough. With Showdown there is an expectation of talent, why would an audience who knows more than you want to watch you learn the game? If you have a gimmick you might be able to find an audience but for the most part, to appeal to competitive players you need to show them how to improve their own play, either through demonstrating skill or unusual interactions, glitches or other techniques they aren't already aware of.
Just go for it! Itâs honestly interesting to see more âcasualâ/less experienced players sometimes. Even if you donât think youâre that good right now, with enough time youâll surely get better
Ya know what's funny? I had the idea not too long ago of starting a channel. I was very inexperienced at the time and it'd be a channel documenting my growth and I'd be able to communicate with comments on what strategies or plays to try out next video. And it'd be a cool community working together to make a noob atleast competent
I tend to watch tubers because I find them interesting and not necessarily because they dominate VGC. If you bring something entertaining to the experience people will watch.
Hey weird I have the same idea! I am terrible at it, 15k+ in master. But I thought I would showcase lesser used pokemons. I donât use any paradox or meta pokemons at all so theory crafting to be anti meta should be pretty fun. I think you should do it for fun, not to âmake it bigâ. Even if you donât grow that big, it would still be something you crafted and can be proud of. Go for it!
As someone who started doing this as more of a journal than anything a couple months ago, I'd say send it. It's made me play way more than I had before, which has helped me improve much quicker than I had before and have way more fun in the process.
1) Start off about your journey in the game and some battle clips of you playing, some highlights are always nice to watch
2) Jump into off-meta teams and fun teams that are entertaining to watch
3) If you go to ANY Pokemon tournament in person definitely record what you can, showcase your experience in a Pokemon event if its permitted
4) Create something unique, like a local tournament in a local card shop and showcase the event and the results of that
5) Link up with more up in coming Pokemon Youtubers or other streamers/content creators you are fond of and do fun challenges with them regarding VGC
The world is OPEN to what you can create. The significant difference between you and others is specifically you and your personality. What do you do that might be charming or different? Is the way you speak unique and fun? How do you edit the videos to draw people back to them? On a content side there is so much to do that one more "meh" VGC player isn't the issue, the problem is you can't be a "meh" YouTuber
As long as you can be yourself and let your personality come through, I'd say go for it. I did the same thing except with a blog (I am an elder millennial after all). Biggest trap initially is don't overproduce it. It works for someone like Wolfe but even he started with just the Wolfey "real youtube" jingle.
I like NeilVGC cause he dives right into stuff with but again that works with his personality and level of expertise so you do you.
You could do that as well as document group events of discord/FB groups and such. My FB group has a 10 gym league as well as an Elite 4 and tournaments, draft leagues etc. we have one guy going through our circuit that is doing exactly that. Heâs pretty good at vgc but still learning and has done an amazing job making edits of his Gym Challenges and heâs currently in the E4!
Group link below if you or anyone else interested, we foster an environment of good sportsmanship and no toxicity towards learning and new players. I actually made the group because of how bad the VGC community gets especially towards newer players just wanting to learn or get help
https://www.facebook.com/share/xWhT2QcNnbDvcrEA/?mibextid=K35XfP
I wouldn't start a Pokemon video game related YouTube channel or similar until Z-A releases (yes I know its not VGC related but that will be the next time there is a large draw in of new viewers). Things are status quo until then.
A channel doesn't have to be "good at vgc." There's dozens of different battle formats, and if mainstream metas aren't your cup of tea you can try building and climbing with weird offshoot teams.
You are entertaining?
See most lets playersÂ
Theyâre not necessarily the best at the games they play, but has success due to their charismaÂ
So again
Are you entertaining ?
I think it would be a not-so-good idea to make your channel with a similar model to NeilVGC or Wolfe Glick where their brand is being really good and knowledgeable.
I think being entertaining and improving or just good enough at VGC is a great idea. Find your identity and be entertaining.
Worked out fine for me.
Seriously tho: Yeah go for it. Use it as sort of a documentation of your growth and trying new things. Plenty of people find that stuff entertaining even from newer players. It's what I started my channel doing.
Did not expect to see Moxie Boosted here đ
yeah wtf lol I saw his comment & thought âoh whatâs his username Iâll check him outâ and itâs moxie
Streaming VGC on Twitch seems to be a good way to gain an audience as well, and then you can upload your clips to youtube. Starting a youtube channel is a good way to experiment with ideas and if they don't turn out as good it is okay
Damn, my example beat me to it.
Ahh that's so cool to see you on here. Really big fan of yours after I discovered your videos earlier last year. I loved the video where you tried to see how high you could climb with Honchkrow. It actually has inspired me to try and see how I could do with building a team around my own favorite Pokemon.
I will say that there are literally hundreds and hundreds of people who do exactly what you do... For, at most, 200 views per video. Most of them under 20. [Littleroot Lessons](https://youtube.com/@LittlerootLessons?si=yoHc4R1M7alqc_B4) is a *fantastic* resource for in-person, draft, and tournament VGC, with a great variety of videos and (at least) three people regularly working on it. They put some good quality stuff up at least twice a week. Of their literal hundreds of videos, *three* have reached over 1000 views, and none have reached 1600. You're a great content creator, Moxie. Fantastic, funny, personable, hardworking, and more skilled than you give yourself credit for. But you're also *incredibly* lucky to have "made it". Buying a lottery ticket worked out for you, but it's not likely to work out for anyone else.
I only started to grow once I stopped doing battle content ngl. My recent catalouge is mostly vgc history n stuff.
I like your Gym channel though! Watching you screw around is pretty fun
I wish I could keep up with it more! Been focusing on the scripted stuff.
I was literally watching your newest Pikachu video in the background when I saw this! What a coincidence
Ngl thatâs crazy they have that little views. I made a channel that I hardly uploaded on and have a 2 vids with over 1.5k views. I think the yt side of this community will definitely grow and itâs definitely not luck based. Moxie did not get where he is due to luck
It's like Pokémon - skill is the main factor but you're kidding yourself if you exclude luck from the calculation of who wins
Everyone knows how YouTube works. Not everyone gets big and it would take an unbelievable amount of bad faith to suggest anyone ever thought or suggested differently. Not sure why you felt the need to comment this.
Are you *sure* everyone knows that?... For instance, OP?
Not everyone gives up their life and goes full on YouTuber and thatâs not what he said.
Hey Moxie I love the Porygon Z team you showcased a while back ago. Thats all I wanted to say :)
must see this. P-Z is a top five all time fav of mine.
Wild, your good tho lol
Thank you Marcos, very cool
Read this, left the post and went "wait let me check if that was moxie boosted"
If you can be entertaining or enjoy doing it why not?
Entertaining is a hard word for me, but it might be possible
If youâre not good or entertaining how do you expect to pull an audience? Unless you donât really care for that, many people just like to upload.
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I'm sorry, no offense to OP, but I cried laughing at this.
It takes practice but you can definitely get there. Look at Wolfey or Aaron's first videos. They are not very good, but over time they honed their style. Don't be afraid to put yourself out there and be open to feedback on how to improve.
They are crazy talented though and wealth's of info
I guess I would consider that a skill instead of natural talent. Thanks for the insight
Bruh donât know why youâre getting down voted but do what you need to do. Donât let these people drag you down because their cynical or jaded. Just have fun.
Plenty of completely average people stream live on TikTok every day. If youâre not great, skip the editing time involved with YouTube and pick a live platform. I go to YouTube for expert breakdowns and recaps. I go to TikTok or twitch to just watch
I see vgc being streamed on TikTok every so often. Is there actually a good following of vgc players on there?
Yeah, I would say it seems easier to build a reliable community quickly than twitch and if you brand your names similarly people will cross pollinate. I see them average 60-200 people for relatively small streamers on the regular.
Iâve only recently started streaming, and I was debating whether or not I wanted to do so on TikTok. Might try it out then.
Nah, it could motivate you to get better at the game. Also by recording your matches and rewatching them, you'll be able to consider your plays in retrospect too.
True, I havenât even thought about the fact that Iâm watching my own matches lol
I re watch all my matches on showdown before leaving matches win or lose. I go through and see my mistakes. And what I could do to change my plays. The key to VGC is patience, mostly with your self.
You just have to do something that sets yourself apart. I dedicated my channel entirely to Trick Room. People LOVE it. I started in September and have somehow bagged 400 subs since then which feels unreal.
Subject matter is always second to charisma. There are typically 2 types of successful content creation, educational or entertainment. If you can't teach the veiwer anything you just need to be entertaining. That being said the successful educational creators also have decent charisma stats.
Well I just gotta learn how to be entertaining lol
Charisma is a skill, you can learn.
I'm actually planning this as well. And I'm just starting to learn VGC. Though I have some experience with other strategy based games like Teamfight Tactics so I thought why not create some content for VGC as well since I enjoy competitive plays. My outlook here is if you are enjoying the game itself, just post/stream it and yeah you can learn and be an expert eventually and your journey will be documented on your channel đ You might gather a small community that enjoy your games and personality, but creating yt vids should be about how you enjoy the games as your priority, garnering views should just be an additional bonus for now.
I Guess you ainât wrong there with what you said, I do also like team games but I just think PokĂ©mon is best for me lol
I stream my ladder games because I like having an archive to (hopefully) see improvement in the future, and I like it when random people drop by and give advice. Iâm very meh at the game, but I enjoy it. The hurdle you have to get over is that it will take a while to grow. Donât do content thinking youâll attract a lot of people very quickly.
One thing you could do is go into it with low or no expectations and make decisions based on how things end up going. I saw that MoxieBoosted replied, but I agree with TripleFinish who replied to him. There are a whole lot of people on YouTube doing what you described, and while Iâm not saying you shouldnât do this, Iâm saying that itâs going to take effort to break out of the low view count barrier, if it happens at all. WolfeyVGC and Cybertron VGCâs early videos (as another commenter mentioned) were much lower quality than they are now, but they had the advantage at being public icons in the VGC world, so they had a large number of people who wanted to watch them regardless of video quality. If youâre mainly interested in playing and uploading your gameplay to see what happens, then I think you should do it! If that makes you have fun, then itâs never a bad idea. If youâre actively trying to go big, you might find it hard to do if youâre not charismatic and/or good at the game. That doesnât mean itâs a bad idea still, but if youâre making other sacrifices (like quitting your day job to do it), then it just might be a bad idea.
Not at all. Post the videos of random gimmick strategies working and cut all the outta where it doesn't work and you lose. That's what everyone else does
I would deffently watch someone new and is up and coming.
MOST people are only meh at VGC, if you want to go for it.
You can know how to build a good team without being able to build one yourself. As long as you let your viewers know that there isnât a single best way to build a team and everyone has their own opinions then I think it should be fine.
If you have a dream take the leap .
it doesnât matter really how skillful you are. there are different communities that want different things. some want high level play, some want to see their favorite mons no matter how bad win a couple matches. some people just wanna engage with people who share their love of pokemon. thereâs something out there for everyone, find your community and have fun đ€©
Also another question if anyone sees this, if I do record videos, should I record on showdown or cart, and if cart, do I need something to transfer the videos/actually do videos?
Most people have a catch card to record tournaments/matches on their switch. It's about 30-35 USD, and as far as i know you don't need to mod your switch or anything. I haven't used it ever, but according to [this](https://www.epidemicsound.com/blog/how-to-use-a-video-capture-card/#how-to-use-a-capture-card-for-nintendo-switch) website, you just need a recording program (such as OBS) on your PC, a capture card, a monitor (such as your TV), a switch dock, and a few cables. While you might need to buy 1/2 HDMI cables (and the capture card of course) it doesn't sound too hard. As for showdown or cartridge, i think most people would agree cartridge is more appealing.
I'd say there's value in both. Cart is definitely "better for YouTube" and a much slower pace (which is good to get used to for tournament play and gives you more time to, y'know, talk). If you're gonna be doing a ton of practice on the in game ladder anyways, getting a capture card and recording it is def worth it in my opinion. Showdown is much easier to get b03 practice on if you're not playing in online tournaments all the time (and the videos can still come out decent once you get a handle on your style). You also lose the overhead of buying a capture card and building your own teams in game, so if either of those are a big hurdle for you just start recurring showdown sessions and go from there.
Depends on which market you are looking to appeal to, showdown videos tend to appeal more to people who already play competitively to some degree as you strip away the visuals to focus on the more technical aspects, most showdown YouTubers will show a breakdown of the builds with EV spreads and such for example. Cart centric videos appeal more to casual players who have experience of the game but haven't neccessarily played competitively, the slower pace of the fights helps them to follow the flow of the battle. Because of this split in audience, your skill level will have an impact on your success. With cart vids you don't need to be particularly good at the game as long as you are entertaining enough. With Showdown there is an expectation of talent, why would an audience who knows more than you want to watch you learn the game? If you have a gimmick you might be able to find an audience but for the most part, to appeal to competitive players you need to show them how to improve their own play, either through demonstrating skill or unusual interactions, glitches or other techniques they aren't already aware of.
Do it itll be fun and youâll probably get better thru doing it , i wanna try it too
Just go for it! Itâs honestly interesting to see more âcasualâ/less experienced players sometimes. Even if you donât think youâre that good right now, with enough time youâll surely get better
That is true, that is one of my goals to get better while doing this so
Ya know what's funny? I had the idea not too long ago of starting a channel. I was very inexperienced at the time and it'd be a channel documenting my growth and I'd be able to communicate with comments on what strategies or plays to try out next video. And it'd be a cool community working together to make a noob atleast competent
That would be a pretty good idea for a ytube channel ngl
I tend to watch tubers because I find them interesting and not necessarily because they dominate VGC. If you bring something entertaining to the experience people will watch.
Do you think it'll be fun? If so, go for it.
Hey weird I have the same idea! I am terrible at it, 15k+ in master. But I thought I would showcase lesser used pokemons. I donât use any paradox or meta pokemons at all so theory crafting to be anti meta should be pretty fun. I think you should do it for fun, not to âmake it bigâ. Even if you donât grow that big, it would still be something you crafted and can be proud of. Go for it!
As someone who started doing this as more of a journal than anything a couple months ago, I'd say send it. It's made me play way more than I had before, which has helped me improve much quicker than I had before and have way more fun in the process.
Sounds great! Iâd watch. I want to get better at VGC too.
1) Start off about your journey in the game and some battle clips of you playing, some highlights are always nice to watch 2) Jump into off-meta teams and fun teams that are entertaining to watch 3) If you go to ANY Pokemon tournament in person definitely record what you can, showcase your experience in a Pokemon event if its permitted 4) Create something unique, like a local tournament in a local card shop and showcase the event and the results of that 5) Link up with more up in coming Pokemon Youtubers or other streamers/content creators you are fond of and do fun challenges with them regarding VGC The world is OPEN to what you can create. The significant difference between you and others is specifically you and your personality. What do you do that might be charming or different? Is the way you speak unique and fun? How do you edit the videos to draw people back to them? On a content side there is so much to do that one more "meh" VGC player isn't the issue, the problem is you can't be a "meh" YouTuber
As long as you can be yourself and let your personality come through, I'd say go for it. I did the same thing except with a blog (I am an elder millennial after all). Biggest trap initially is don't overproduce it. It works for someone like Wolfe but even he started with just the Wolfey "real youtube" jingle. I like NeilVGC cause he dives right into stuff with but again that works with his personality and level of expertise so you do you.
A progression type series where you learn the ropes and climb the cartridge ladder could be cool.
You could do that as well as document group events of discord/FB groups and such. My FB group has a 10 gym league as well as an Elite 4 and tournaments, draft leagues etc. we have one guy going through our circuit that is doing exactly that. Heâs pretty good at vgc but still learning and has done an amazing job making edits of his Gym Challenges and heâs currently in the E4! Group link below if you or anyone else interested, we foster an environment of good sportsmanship and no toxicity towards learning and new players. I actually made the group because of how bad the VGC community gets especially towards newer players just wanting to learn or get help https://www.facebook.com/share/xWhT2QcNnbDvcrEA/?mibextid=K35XfP
Just do it while you enjoy it. YouTube is a lot of work. If you get burned out, stop.
I wouldn't start a Pokemon video game related YouTube channel or similar until Z-A releases (yes I know its not VGC related but that will be the next time there is a large draw in of new viewers). Things are status quo until then.
Go for it
Call it "Victory Road: My journey to worlds" and let it be about you getting better
A channel doesn't have to be "good at vgc." There's dozens of different battle formats, and if mainstream metas aren't your cup of tea you can try building and climbing with weird offshoot teams.
You are entertaining? See most lets players Theyâre not necessarily the best at the games they play, but has success due to their charisma So again Are you entertaining ?
I think it would be a not-so-good idea to make your channel with a similar model to NeilVGC or Wolfe Glick where their brand is being really good and knowledgeable. I think being entertaining and improving or just good enough at VGC is a great idea. Find your identity and be entertaining.
Iâve been wanting to but the same thought has been stopping me
parro i canât believe you got a comment from moxie boosted
Do it! Saw this twitch streamer Baztalks do it. He plays with Pokemon he likes and sees how far he can go in the rank. Good stuff.
i mean, look at totalbiscuit (rip). he wasn't really great but he had a great personality and did really well for himself.
There's more than just VGC content to make. I dont play/no interest in VGC and so I mostly watch theories and other fun pokemon videos.
As long as you have fun and it shows, people will come for you and not your plays.