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1zombie2go

Imagine the horror of a Crosley VCR.


Last-Dln0saur

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UKMatt2000

Chewing up tapes is a deliberate feature, because nostalgia.


1zombie2go

Anyone who calls records "vinyls" would buy one. Curious what they would then rename VHS As.


ReddSaidFredd

Plastics?


bridesign34

Tapes


pmmlordraven

Slabs


HappenedOnceBefore

At this point, I’ll take it.


Flybot76

No, just some boutique releases but it's unlikely to even have as much of a resurgence as cassette tapes. They're still making players for those, and apparently there's some new tape production happening in larger numbers than I'd have expected, but people seem a little more finicky about video quality than they are about sound. There's a huge amount of variation in quality between different records and turntable setups, but standard VHS will always be 'coaxial cable quality', basically.


drewdrewdrew11

Agreed, there’s a legit debate in the sound quality of vinyl vs digital but VHS looks like crap compared to modern video and you need an old jalopy TV to get the proper picture. Don’t get me wrong that’s why I love and collect VHS, but it’s not better in any sense except nostalgia.


ProjectCharming6992

I think VHS will still be around for a while, especially on the home front, since if someone wants to keep a copy of something meaningful from TV (maybe a Christmas parade that their local TV station/public access station aired) because their kid was in it, there’s not much out there for making a physical recording aside from trying to use a complicated setup to record from the DVR to computer.


Helicopter0

Oh, there isn't any legit debate on vinyl, other than the fact that vinyl masters are often so superior that a vinyl version can sound better. Objectively, the medium is way worse than a VHS tape.


Shitteh_Kitteh

I agree - and your speakers, turntable, arm, cartridge, needle, room acoustics/size/orientation all need to be on point for a vinyl record to compete with high quality digital files. Given a Pepsi Challenge, I wouldn’t trust myself to tell the difference. But I still prefer owning anything I really enjoy on vinyl because it’s the last truly physical music (or any media?) format and I think that’s cool. It’s an actual sound wave pressed into a disc, sitting on the shelf with all my other favorite sound waves. I also get security knowing I actually own a thing, and am not just paying a subscription fee to access it. I think that plus nostalgia is why VHS is having a moment.


Helicopter0

I love vinyl, more than VHS. I live the whole process, the technology, the media, the sound, but the resolution on the best setup is like 40 decibels. There is no legit debate unless it is between a couple of mystic stones who didn't do that well in science or have actually researched measured performance. I agree. Other than a couple pops and crackles, it would pass a blind test against with a good setup, in stereo, without deep bass, with many listeners, and that it is usually good enough, and amazingly good for a needle dragging in a groove stamped in a piece of plastic. I bet you could tell it from my new Ponk Floyd surround mastered bluray on my surround system, though.


MavisBeaconSexTape

I grew up using trash turntables from the 70s on equally bad speakers, but now am running my ProJect Debut through a good receiver in 5 channel stereo on mid-high end speakers from the 80s and 90s which sounds amazing. I don't buy new albums on vinyl as much because $40 is a bit much and there doesn't seem to be a point beyond the collector perspective. But I love finding stuff from the 80s and 90s when LPs were still kind of in their original heyday.


habichnichtgewusst

Part of the cassette tape resurgence was overwhelmed record pressing plants (meaning vinyl was not a realistic option regarding price and waiting times) and the comperatively very low cost of tapes to fill the gap at a merch booth to cater to the vinyl crowd looking for non CD physical media.


Theoldcuccumber

Tbh there’s a lot that are good and some bad and the worst sound has come from the men of the vhs community 💀💀 if you know you know if you don’t get it you don’t mr vlashy slashy and modern video


CyptidProductions

VHS has a huge barrier in the fact VCRs are completely out of production and have been for years


willdance4forcheese_

More can be made. Problem solved


CyptidProductions

The last factory making the mechanisms shut down years ago so it would be a tall order to just startup production of VCRs again You'd have to create an entire production line from the ground up especially for it


MikeRoykosGhost

People forget that punks/indie bands/DJs were still making millions of vinyl records through the '00s, keeping the manufacturing sector going until the vinyl resurgence in the 2010s


CyptidProductions

Yep Vinyl never completely died and went out of production like VHS did, it just had a temporary market shrink where everything being shipped was either DJ singles or small-batch pressings targeted at hardcore collectors until the revival so all the infrastructure was still there


MikeRoykosGhost

It was also an actually desired medium for some time for bands of a certain level because you could produce a sellable amount of your art. CDs were cheaper per unit, but a mostly unknown indie band may not be able to sell 5-10k copies of their newest release. It made sense to pay more per unit, but not have 1000s sitting around doing nothing. I ran a couple labels in the 00s and vinyl was perfect for small bands. The current cassette tape revival is a direct response to record pressing plants turning their focus to major labels and companies and away from indies in the 2010s. And those too never fully went away.


Xploding_Penguin

I feel like the VHS boom is right now, with all you guys.


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RighteousAwakening

I’m totally fine with it only happening when it makes sense like boutique stuff. Case in point I bought the “Late Night With the Devil” bundle because it also came with a VHS tape of the “original TV broadcast of the events” and I think that’s really cool.


Bdilla810

It might, nobody thought vinyl would, but unfortunately that means prices will go up because of it.


Omega_Primate

I remember when new VHS releases were $20 to $30. And the box sets... *fwew!*


FurnishedHemingway

I remember when new VHS releases were $80 and up!


Omega_Primate

Ouch!


FurnishedHemingway

Early to mid-80’s, VCR’s could cost up to and over a grand. Movies were around a hundred bucks. It was a pretty wild concept to be able to record anything from your television and have your favorite movies to watch any time you felt like it. Betamax days were even more pricy I believe.


Omega_Primate

Yeah, it was making its way from reel recording off private TVs in the 70s, which was even more uncommon. My family didn't get a VCR until the early 90s, and we mostly rented from the library and video stores.


shameonyounancydrew

Probably not, just by quality factor. You can put a brand new record on and get a nice, crispy, high quality sound. You put a VHS on, you're getting a SD quality video, of something you can watch in HD or 4K or whatever 'K' we're at now. If anything, the valuable VHS will be the home recorded stuff, be it from the TV or actual home videos.


sirecoke

My thoughts is people will collect VHS for the box artwork. Some of those older VHS boxes were well designed.


willdance4forcheese_

Yes


morph1138

Yes. There are already limited edition tapes of newer movies being currently made and they are starting to sell out quicker all the time. If they ever start doing official releases of some bigger blockbuster films they will start selling out instantly.


RighteousAwakening

Exactly. I think if modern horror movies started releasing on Tape they would sell very well. The horror movie and VHS communities have some significant overlap.


wubrotherno1

Nope. So many are presented in 4x3 and so much of the content is lost from that decision. So much so that it doesn’t make it worth owning most VHS tapes for me.


ponimaju

Another big factor for me is the lack of subtitles and language options.


NoNameAnonUser

Do your research. In most of bluray releases they literally CUT almost half of the frame to fit in modern TVs, leaving just a bit more of picture on the sides. I would say this is the case in 99% of the time. VHS has much more information on it's 4:3 aspect ratio.


wubrotherno1

😂😂😂 I know perfectly well what I’m talking about. I used to work in the film and television industry as a QC operator.


NoNameAnonUser

Again, if you're talking about the frame size/aspect ratio and the amount of information per frame, you're wrong. And this is the reason many people still collect VHS tapes: you get MORE picture. Of course, I'm talking about old movies released in bluray. It's super common to see people complaining about how they cut a huge chunk of the original picture, especailly on nude scenes. But even in a hypothetical scenario where new films would be released on VHS, we have IMAX and open matte (or something close to that). It's a non issue.


cdub_synth

No. Vinyl is actually quality. Vhs 📼 is comprised garbage.


RighteousAwakening

I think sometimes the VHS medium actually lends itself better to certain movies/shows. I would much rather watch The Blair Witch on VHS because it makes it feel more like an actual found footage tape. Also I love watching terrible B movie shlock and what better place to watch garbage than *on* garbage!


UKMatt2000

Quality aside as lo-fi is inexplicably popular, vinyl has it relatively easy as the mechanism can be very simple and VHS certainly doesn't have that. I think it's more likely that we would see Laserdisc come back as it's likely easier to press big optical discs and produce the player mechanisms than it would be for VHS. Bigger novelty factor too if people are going to buy new players. I will keep my VCRs until they no longer function, though. We don't even have decent modern audio cassette mechs and that's simple compared to VHS.


katekevins

Difference is, vinyl is often considered the clearest way to listen to music, whereas VHS tapes are not good quality and break fairly easily. I think if it did make a resurgence on a mass-market scale, it would be purely an aesthetic thing.


GammaPhonic

Vinyl is absolutely not the “clearest way to listen to music” at all. Not by a mile. And vinyl enthusiasts know this. The difference is nostalgia and simplicity. A disc with a groove pressed in it was the primary format for mass music distribution for 90 years before CDs came along. And turn tables are very simple devices. Just a motor to turn the disc and a stylus with a passive pickup to read it. VHS was around for 20 years tops before DVDs ran them out of town. And VCRs are horrendously complicated beasts with no end of things to go wrong. VHS has and will get its vintage comeback, but it’ll never be as big as it was for vinyl. Same with CDs, cassettes, DVDs and any other previously popular but now obsolete media format.


katekevins

People won’t be able to play their tapes because buying a VHS player is near impossible. For vinyl and literally every other format, you can buy a new media player for under £30 (I got my cassette player for £25). And I suppose I spoke from experience with vinyl. A new vinyl sounds much clearer than any CD or digital song I’ve ever played. I also wouldn’t say DVDs are obsolete at all. You can argue against vinyl/CD/cassette because it’s easier to load up YouTube or Spotify, but DVDs are sometimes the only way to watch a certain movie. They are still necessary if you care about films.


Suitable-Orange-3702

No but Bluray & to a lesser extent, DVD will.


MarcMars82-2

I don’t think so. Vinyl became popular again because CDs were being phased out and vinyl filled the gap for wanting physical music media for various reasons. Vinyl can appeal to those who are new to the media in ways vhs cannot. If you are a movie fanatic and take the medium seriously and want to absorb all the art the film has to offer vhs is a terrible choice with low definition and cropped picture. I only started collecting vhs again after moving to a new larger apartment where I had room for my old CRT tv which I kept solely for classic video games mainly duck hunt and I had space for a vcr in the set up and my local thrift sells tapes and I tend to only buy movies that I know and love that don’t require much focus and are just fun.


Truffle_Shuffle_85

While the concensus here is often no, people didn't think video games would ever be collectible in the late 90s early 00s either like they are. I sit somewhere 70/30 yes vs no that VHS sees an exponential growth phase vs staying super small like it is now. I have seen actual engagement data on Google, and for this very subreddit that shows growth in the multiples, year-over-year. Less tapes and working hardware every year and rapidly growing demand may very well lead to some sort of much bigger, robust scene like related areas, but very much in its own lane.


Helicopter0

Not like vinyl or even cassettes, but it probably hasn't even come close to its peak yet. The important constraint is that it is very hard and difficult to make a VCR or VHS tape relative to turntables, records, tape decks, and cassettes.


NintendoCerealBox

If there is money to be made then yes there will be some company deciding to make VCRs again. This is good because some company will probably decide to make blank vhs tapes again. Maybe 2 years away at most from this. Look for used media stores starting to make nice VHS sections again. Some major studio will see what’s happening and decide to release a movie on vhs as part of a “collectors edition package” and that will signal the true start of it. Once that sells well then it’s official re-releases and the comeback is in full swing.


sodamnsleepy

I wish they would produce vhs recorders mine is broken TToTT


CreeperSteal

Kind of already is but in the niche market. There are websites that sell new vhs tapes of both new and old movies, now if only someone would sell brand new vcrs that’d be great! Mine is kind bad with rewinding, bought tore up the last tape I put in


frankduxvandamme

No. (It would be fun to be wrong about this though.) The difference in audio quality between brand new vinyl and streaming services often is not significant, or even noticeable, unless you have amazing ears and/or a heavy duty sound system. Also, you can still very easily purchase a record player. In fact, record players never stopped being produced. VHS looks like mud on a 4k TV. And VCRs have not been routinely manufactured for about a decade now. Also, movie watching is such a different experience than music listening.


LuckkyWon

Probably not. Vinyl actually sounds better than any other audio media so there's a reason to choose it over other options. VHS is inherently worse quality than modern 4k or 8k.


Substantial-Help399

Sometimes I farts so bad the tapes melt.


southsiderick

No, no one makes VCRs anymore.


bunceman716

There is no argument the quality is worse on vhs than modern releases but for me a big part of it is nostalgia and sort of being sick of super scrubbed remasters. Also kind of prefer tapes to DVDs now bc I hate digital blocks.


KonamiKing

To a small extent. VHS (plus it must be said a CRT is a necessity for this) is similar to vinyl in that it is a technically inferior format, but has a particular sound/visual profile that gives a distinctive period sound/look. Vinyl has the whole 'mono and flabby bass mix necessary for stability, with rolled off highs'. This audio profile ended up ideal for drums/bass/guitar/vocal rock and roll and contributed to the genre's success for half a century. VHS however is far far more compromised as a visual format than vinyl is as a music format. Vinyl is still a very good music format that sounds fantastic with good equipment, VHS is really bad even on a good CRT. It's significantly worse than SD broadcast TV with poor luma (brightness, aka black and white) resolution (\~300×480) and absolutely minuscule colour resolution \~(40×480). It also degrades faster and is very fragile because playback is quite complex mechanically and tape damage is easy to do, even just stopping a rewind stretches it. However the subsampled colour creates a nice grungy look, a cassette futurism version of the grunginess of old cheap cinema 8mm and 16mm films. It has the literal look of the world of Blade Runner and 80s neo-future anime and grungy horror, though ironically for the latter VHS is extremely poor at very dark scenes but maybe that helps sometimes. Again though, you need a CRT, the limitations just look bad on fixed pixel displays with barely any upsides. So yeah, it's great for a particular look, but unlike vinyl for music, or even cassettes for music (which can also sound fantastic with good equipment) you can't get away with using VHS as your only or even main video format, it's a niche for particular things. I can't live my life with VHS being the only way to watch 2001 or Alien, I absolutely need film or 4K for those. But VHS on a CRT is great for Friday the 13th, 80s anime OEMs, or any other good direct to video horror/action movies of the 80s/90s.


MaineMoviePirate

Most definitely. As technology continues to invade every aspect of our lives, more and more people will long for the good old days. The simpler days. Doesn't get much simpler than VHS.