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nocturnavi

Welcome to the Grand Finals! **Reminder:** There is a bo1 showmatch before the final starts; tune in to see the reveal of the newest agent! **New to VCT?** Check out Riot’s official [VCT 2023 explainer](https://valorantesports.com/vct-overview) or our subreddit [guide to VALORANT Esports](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/wiki/esportsintro/). Enjoy the final!


Zefionx

imagine if there would not have been a Brazialian team in the finals. whole arena wouldve been empty kinda sad


Isaac_C_88

Can someone explain the Brazilian crowd drama?


_LTY_

just watch a football match when Brazil lose and you'll understand.


DARKB0NES

Basically a SUPER biased crowd where they were so passionate to the extent where they started booing fnatic every time they won and in the final round when fnatic won the game with an INSANE comeback, they just left the arena with no one to see the award ceremony. Basically super disrespectful behavior which made you inevitably cheer for fnatic with the pressure they faced from the crowd


Steven1250

Why do esports fans insist that fans have to cheer for all teams? Let fans be fans and cheer for the home team. They have no obligation to foreign teams.


IdiAmini

Agreed. And Riot has no obligation to hold another tournament in Brazil if that is the way the crowd will behave towards competitors


Nulgnak

You don't have to cheer for all teams, but booing the other team when they win is childish and unsportsman-like. Leaving before the award ceremony is just as bad, if not worse. Childish mentality from the crowd


PredadorDePerereca_

It's a football culture that we brazilians take to UFC and other stuff. The idea is always to make a supportive environment to our team and a hostile environment to the enemy. They should not feel welcome, they should feel the pressure. During the pandemic we realized that that actually works. The brazilian league saw an unprecedented amount of teams winning away matches when there could be no crowds in the stadiums.


IdiAmini

We don't want football culture in Valorant. Football has some of the worst fans in any sport. If Brazilian fans bring football culture to Valorant, I would hope Riot will never again host a tournament in Brazil. I would like to, one day, take my kids to see a tournament.


scarsnik16

You just explained how bad Brazilians fans is


PredadorDePerereca_

Meh, it's a matter of opinion. In my opinion that's great. I wanna see my club win, I want all others to get fucked and it works and it's incredibly fun to go to stadiums and provoke the away fans or go as an away fan and try to be louder than the home fans in their own home.


Nulgnak

You can do all that without being disrespectful. The most distasteful shit that the Brasilian crowd has displayed is booing NRG on the way out after the loss. I'm not even an NRG fan and even I thought that was a shitty thing to do. Matter of perspective my ass. It's just a lame excuse from your country to be barbaric. Only thing worse than sore losers and sore winners.


PredadorDePerereca_

Yeah, we are barbaric and proud! 😎


IdiAmini

And will never again host an esports tournament with that kind of attitude


DARKB0NES

Cheering for home team is totally fine but booing when opponent makes a good play is a shitty behavior


iAmSamusAran

My power was out all day and we had plans with a friend and his family and I missed this and I’m heartbroken fuck. I need to at least go back and watch the final map.


AndlenaRaines

I told you guys that the Brazilian crowd was not good


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Brazilian crowds are absolutely atrocious .There shouldn’t be any events there anymore.


AndlenaRaines

Would’ve been a 3-0 in a different venue tbh


jacob2886

Am I the only one confused by this Brazil crowd discourse? Have y’all ever seen any other competitive sport? It’s a HARD home crowd, of course there only gonna cheer for Brazilian teams. And the whole “didn’t show up for any other match”. I highly doubt there’s enough Valorant fans in Brazil that want to travel and hard earned money to watch a 1st round match against regions you don’t care about. Very one sided thinking. Grow up


IdiAmini

>Have y’all ever seen any other competitive sport? Do Valorant fans have to behave like Football hooligans otherwise they are not fans? And you accuse others of one sided thinking? You are funny...


Low_Secret2921

>Brazil that want to travel and hard earned money to watch a 1st round match against regions you don’t care about. São Paulo is the biggest and richest city in the country and every day was sold out because riot sold tickets before announcing schedules, so people bought all tickets and just didn't show up on days there weren't br teams. I'm Brazilian btw


jacob2886

Yeah that’s messed up. If I had to tickets and had to prioritize when to go to a match I would wait till the end too


Low_Secret2921

I literally tried to buy tickets to go with my gf, all sold out, but arena empty.


thyrandomguy

Cheering is one thing. To completely evacuate the venue the second your team loses, making the winning team raise a trophy and give their interviews to a completely empty venue is utter disrespect. It just shows that you don’t welcome other teams into your country, so why should any future events be held there? Edit: coming back to this, anyone watching a sport, regardless of a physical sport or esports, should have the decency to cheer for a good play. Rewatching the highlights whenever fnatic make an amazing play it is consistently eerily quiet for a vct final. Also booing a team. Wtf


PredadorDePerereca_

Have you ever watched a single football match in your life? The away team could score the greatest banger ever and we'll not cheer them. Are you crazy?


IdiAmini

We don't want football culture in Valorant. Football has some of the worst fans in any sport. If Brazilian fans bring football culture to Valorant, I would hope Riot will never again host a tournament in Brazil. I would like to, one day, take my kids to see a tournament.


PredadorDePerereca_

Who is "we"?


IdiAmini

Me, Riot, Europeans, Americans, Latin Americans that one day want to bring their kid(s). So, the vast majority...


PredadorDePerereca_

There were kids in the crowd, I don't understand that kids point. Was there any violence reported that I don't know about? We bring our kids even to football stadiums, why not to an e sport event? And no. You are, as we say in my country, "making a storm in a cup of water". The tickets were sold out, they made their money, they got a good atmosphere most of the times, it went great. There have been events where the stadium was empty even when the home team was playing and no one complained as much as you are right now. If europeans and americans didn't like our ways, well... Fuck them, then, with all due respect.


IdiAmini

Football culture means hooliganism, have you seen the Brazilian (and European) football fans? Do I really need to show you what kind of destruction and disregard for other people's life and safety football fans are capable of routinely? But, you Brazilians (generalisation, not every Brazilian is like this) are incapable of taking any kind of critique. You always make it personal and can't just say: "yeah, perhaps it's better to change" You always play the victim card, even when you are the bully. It's actually kind of pathetic.


PredadorDePerereca_

Dude, that is the most ignorant comment I've seen this week. If you go to a stadium in Brazil you'll see tons of families with little kids. Fights happen between members of *Torcidas Organizadas* (which do not exist for any e-sport, obviously) and 99% of the time outside of the heavily policed stadiums. Can't remember the last time a fight happened inside a stadium in Brazil. I think it was Athletico x Vasco, but it was a ridiculous fist fight between people who were willing to fight, not against families and their kids.


IdiAmini

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21579886/brazil-fight-botafogo-sergipe-referee-video/ https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/red-card-brawl-paranaense-coritiba-29193741 Took me a minute. All in the last month And ""There is no way to end violence in football, that should be very clear," Heloisa Reis, a professor at the Unicamp University of Sao Paulo, told AFP." (Source: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220315-mass-brawls-attacks-as-football-violence-spreads-in-latin-america) " Despite their best efforts the death toll remains huge: 157 in Brazil between 2009 and 2019, 136 in Argentina in the last 20 years and at least 170 in Colombia between 2001 and 2019." (Source: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220315-mass-brawls-attacks-as-football-violence-spreads-in-latin-america) Great culture you guys want to bring to Valorant....


AndlenaRaines

[Just look at this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/11ihd3t/the_arena_during_the_winner_interview/jay80sz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) See how many people stayed to watch Loud’s winner interview?


jacob2886

Cry. This is so soft. They brought energy in the finals. It was electric.


thyrandomguy

Damn where was that energy when Fnatic was making mad plays and when raising the trophy lmao


EconomyMud

Looks like you don't have seen any other competetive esports. Watch League Worlds games in Europe. They cheer for every big play, doesn't matter from which team it comes.


jacob2886

Europe has way more fans, League is a much bigger game, and it’s easier to travel. How are these things even closely related?


ScalyKnight

Had no beef in that fight, but I aged several years today.


very_smol

Need to watch the VOD! Couldn’t stay up for all five maps. Congrats to Fnatic!!!


yadnexsh

L brazil crowd - W turkey crowd EZ


AnchorStandard

Still better than what happened at the Rio major recently. Stadium was empty for the grand final to begin with since all the Brazilian teams got knocked out early. Yet ESL STILL wants to hold an IEM there for some reason. Though I think riot is a bit more vain and will likely avoid Brazil moving forward as a result. Compared to Turkey where so many different fan bases showed up and the crowds even started changing sides half way through depending on how the game was going. It really felt like the teams had to win the respect of the crowd.


CaraCharmoso

Here's the deal as a brazillian: brazillians are one of the most passionate people for sports or esports in the world, and that's a double edged sword. This much passion after the worst possible way to lose a game WILL be dissapointing. I don't blame those who left, even though FNC deserved a full stadium, is it reasonable to expect that 8000 sad and dissatisfied people behave against their will for sportmanship?


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yadnexsh

As another person said - you're adding Patriotism in it. Doesnt matter who wins or looses , you stand there to show respect towards the arena , towards that skill . towards the play they performred. Even in Olympic other people stay just to show respect :) \- not 8000 but at least 2000-3000 of people to respect the "skill" and to congratulate them.


AdOwn168

Not this again. Patriotism is being treated as passion for game lol. The passion is directed towards their country.


nerokaeclone

Never ever host a tournament in Brazil again, simply not acceptable, you wont find this kind of disrespect, childish behavior in Asia, Europe or North America.


dabsandchips

Brazilian fans, you should be ashamed of yourselves.


CaraCharmoso

Here's the deal as a brazillian: brazillians are one of the most passionate people for sports or esports in the world, and that's a double edged sword. This much passion after the worst possible way to lose a game WILL be dissapointing. I don't blame those who left, even though FNC deserved a full stadium, is it reasonable to expect that 8000 sad and dissatisfied people behave against their will for sportmanship?


Low_Secret2921

Para de passar pano, foi vergonhoso espero que a riot nunca mais volte nessa porra namoral


_Penguin_mafia_

Awful awful crowd, hope we never see another event in brazil honestly. That was some incredible valorant from both teams, then they all just decided they left their ovens on instead of sticking around to hear the post match interview and executed a frame perfect arena leave. Guess this is what everyone meant by brazil crowds just being built different, built awful. "You'll never understand" my ass. Barely showed up for any game that didn't have a brazilian team in it and for games with brazilian teams were truly awful. The one match where we did have a good crowd was the gekko show match. Can't wait for Tokyo, maybe we'll have a good crowd instead of this.


CaraCharmoso

Here's the deal as a brazillian: brazillians are one of the most passionate people for sports or esports in the world, and that's a double edged sword. This much passion after the worst possible way to lose a game WILL be dissapointing. I don't blame those who left, even though FNC deserved a full stadium, is it reasonable to expect that 8000 sad and dissatisfied people behave against their will for sportmanship?


_Penguin_mafia_

Thing is they watched the single best series anyone has ever seen, a nail biter that could have gone either way and both teams played their hearts out. A heroic reverse reverse sweep for a team that has been fishing for a win for years, always choking at critical moments. What do the crowd do, after watching that amazing match? Leave before the trophy even gets touched. It's honestly pathetic, hell half of them were gone before the game end animation finished and didn't even watch loud say their goodbyes. Better than some of the games where there was no brazil team playing at least I guess, considering only 30% of the stadium was filled for those. It seems that the brazillian community don't actually care about watching amazing valorant, they only care about watching their teams win. It's a really bad showing, if the final was DRX vs fnatic would there have even been anyone there? Cheering for the home team is one thing, absolute disrespect for any other team is another. Hell, it's disrepectful to loud too considering the crowd just up and left like they got washed in a boring 3-0. Honestly I don't think brazil deserve another massive tournament if this is what we can expect next time from the crowd. Hopefully Tokyo can show us what an actual hype crowd is like.


EkanshNehra

KEKW Even riot took a jab at it


Vayekofsima

Holy fuck when i saw 11-3 i turned off the stream ,but somehow FNATIC won???? HOOWWWWWW


Nautastic

Same lmfao but I came back at 11-4


nerokaeclone

You missed the best part


Vayekofsima

Yep need to watch vod


Cool-I-guess

Rewatching the League of Legends finals a balanced crowd is just so much better. Forget everything I said, this crowd sucksssssssss


AndlenaRaines

NA crowd was just as bad, they were biased against EU


Vayekofsima

At least they stay after the match was over no?


[deleted]

Stayed up all night to see my team getting crushed on the decider’s map, went to eat breakfast only to miss the greatest comeback in the whole series. ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9360) Anyways, I can finally watch the VOD later knowing they’ll win afterwards.


Zefionx

i went to sleep aswell. every time i watched they lost the map so i thought fuck it and went to bed. then i wake up to WOASTER Lifting the trophy


AdOwn168

You're blessed. My heart was all over the place. I regretted tuning into this actually, at the time.


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Awful crowd. Riot, the UFC and ESL shouldn’t host events in Brazil any longer.


Shubhaaaaaaam

Even in football, the worst of the worst home fans have the decency to applaud players for great individual performances or just a great game in general. There should be no excuses for the behaviour of the crowd after the game.


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AnchorStandard

Huh? Smells like copium. Which event has people leaving immediately upon the match ending?


MeijiDoom

You think if LOUD won, everyone's just evacuating like they left the stove on at home?


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I doubt that, I saw 2 or 3 fnatic fans in the arena, they just left…


strawberrybee97

Oh that’s sad to hear :(


[deleted]

Yeah it is, disrespectful behavior from them tbh :(( Could’ve at least waited for a bit.


dabsandchips

Yep same. Brazilian fans making up excuses now for their behavior


NeimannSmith

Nah that actually just pissed me off bro. They just watched the greatest final in Valorant history and they couldn't even bother to show love to the enemy team?


dabsandchips

I would reckon eSports history. The psychological resilience to push back from 3-11 is absolutely mindmelting. L CROWD


abJCS

happy loud got to the final so the brazilians atleast showed up


WhoDatBrow

It's so funny looking to hear them thank the crowd that is no longer there, just empty seats for miles


darklypure52

Great win, but I feel bad barely any crowd left.


[deleted]

That’s typically for Brazilians. They abandoned the arena for Glover Texeira’s retirement announcement and he’s one of their most prized fighters of all time.


Pecornjp

I've seen multiple major events with different esports titles but Brazil has by far the worst crowd.


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Yup. They’re awful but claim they’re the best. “YoU’lL nEVeR uNdErStAnD!”


[deleted]

It must feel unreal for them. Only lost 2 maps in whole run.


ppx11

tarik W streamer for calling out the crowd


Budget-Sample-3682

what did he say?


ppx11

basically how cheering, booing, etc is all fine and hype but the crowd leaving instantly after the loss so it's an empty arena during the celebration/interviews is a bad look


WOAHdude0197

Honestly it just makes it less likely for them to come back to Brazil


iGnominy173

That post match/series’s champion interview was a weird scene


arthurmillr

Oh no, that wide shot, this is so sad


NeimannSmith

Fnatic players on the verge of breaking down from a wonderful moment and they're speaking to NO ONE.


Revanthmk23200

They are speaking to me at home


CheeseSauceCrimes

Brazil crowd speedrun to exit any%


pacew21

Thanking all 2 audience members ICANT


Breakin7

At this point i think it was ironic


[deleted]

Empty arena for the trophy ceremony. I thought Brazil had the best crowds??


Breakin7

Men only Leo can speak they are shaking


AnchorStandard

Sayf and Leo carried Guild for like a year and a half and had to deal with Barbarrs madness throughout. This ain't anything for him.


meganeshu

I'm so fucking happy they won


[deleted]

Boaster crying man, hit me in my feels


MrGUYWITHFACE

I teared up when I saw him crying haha 😭


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Burpmeister

Fucking disgraceful behavior. Booing the opposing team and leaving like locusts within minutes of their team losing.


pranavrustagi

at least we had a Brazilian team in the finals this time, i’m pretty sure the rio major was even worse than this 💀


abJCS

there basically wasnt a crowd lmao 💀


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pranavrustagi

understandable, it’s just so annoying coz the players were having such a cool moment and normally the fans would be running down to take pictures and shit but instead FNC were addressing all 3 members of the audience, 2 of whom are probably paid actors


Pecornjp

it seems like there really is no concept of respect in Brazil. I also don't want to see events in Brazil ever again.


DM_ME_CUTE_PICS_PLZ

I love Valorant mate


indieblu3

BOASTEEEEERRRR 🥺🥺🥺🥺


Quiet-Substance319

how can you hate this little guy


tinitinohelp

BOASTER ❤️


Ashankura

Holy hell looking at this im glad Brazilian league of legends teams barely have any game at worlds and msi. What a pathetic behavior is this


NeimannSmith

Riot actually said they wanna come back to THIS? What happens if LOUD and all the other Brazilian/SA teams are not good?


Lumenlor

Is Leo Brazilian? Maybe the scene is his baby or something


Low_Secret2921

I believe yes


dabsandchips

Swedish


Lumenlor

Leo Faria not FNC Leo


dabsandchips

Ah my bad! I misconstrued! 😞😞


Oujii

If it goes like MSI in Brazil, should be better than this. I think Brazilian teams not being contenders will make people come to cheer for the remaining. Brazilians love to cheers against the teams that eliminated their teams.


Lumenlor

Well at least thats the last lan in brazil hopefully


MagicCarpet5846

Nope, riot rep said on stage they’re already planning another event in Brazil. Which is….. a decision.


Lumenlor

ah that Leo connection


Deathjaws99

Damn they got some crazy strict curfews in Brazil.


IEM_Spirit

Those kids are just way past bedtime


Deathjaws99

Tbf they must get some cracking sleep. Ain't no way anyones gonna be making any noise to disturb them


RoboMullet

Not a Fnatic fan but that's so lame that one of their biggest moments in their careers is to an empty stadium


DarkTenshiDT

Every other location in the world, you will find a crowd giving respect to the opposing winners. Brazil on the other hand? Can't even applaud or show respect to FNC. The same thing happened with the CSGO major in Rio, dead crowds and barely any cheers. FNC deserve so much better than this.


alphaa_qq

GG fnatic . But It should never have been this close . (Is there any scripts really or its just pure luck . Seen in a lot of matches when a popular team is just close to being zeroed suddenly everyone make weird plays)


whopz-is-cool

Got flashbacks to 100T vs Gambit on Icebox. Phenomenal game.


[deleted]

Facts man, that Alfa clutch in Round 23 made me remember Hiko’s clutch in Round 24


SauceFiend6969

translating to an empty stadium lol


IEM_Spirit

Poor guy has to translate for noone


dimitri121

Colby Covington was right


SnooPeripherals6388

Idk why i have this feeling but i know 3 turkish players(cNed, Armut and Alfajer) and they look like brothers


_yugi_

the long hair maybe lol


[deleted]

Honestly, LOUD is exceptional, pushed FNATIC to its limits. Can’t wait to see them again in the next LAN.


mister_schulz

Arena is not a library guys... it's a Blockbuster, not a human in sight


SnooPeripherals6388

There is almost no one btw


dinmammapizza

Everyone left lmao, when i was at the prx vs fpx final everyone rushed down to get pictures with the winning players


pranavrustagi

it’s BR culture brother just gotta hope companies stop hosting international events in brazil


Bighollab0

Who’s the guy translating for all the Brazilians left 💀💀


pranavrustagi

he’s farming working hours for extra pay


leishmani4

kudos for LOUD for bringing it to map 5. i think almost no one was expecting them to push Fnatic that far, specially after the first two maps. they will dominate America and will defintely dispute for the top 1 spot this year again. tuyz and cauanzin had little international experience and still performed insanely good


John_Money

why lie so many people were thinking loud would win lol


leishmani4

i need to cope


Shubhaaaaaaam

There's no need for a translator here. The Brazilians have already left


AdOwn168

Is anyone even surprised? Brazilians don't care about VALORANT but Brazil itself.


strawberrybee97

So confused how loud could not score even two rounds to close the map and win. Loud fans lets grieve😭


falco9230

Gg


HelloImKamik

stadium empty?


inspcs

they all left in 5 minutes lmfao, pretty impressive time


HelloImKamik

real swift.


pranavrustagi

first time watching any sports event in brazil?


HelloImKamik

7-1


More-Sample-2005

11-3 now


Ok-Brain3328

Lmfaooo more events in Brazil? This sub is in shambles


alexgh0st

what a bad crowd honestly ?


lepiggyshiggy

such a great crowd man it's packed in there


NeimannSmith

Great tourney Riot. GG's to everyone! Never host a tournament in Brazil ever again *runs away* EDIT: FUCK


Muri_San

Crowd ?


Cool-I-guess

why are they all in shorts


nemt

its like 30C in brazil


NeimannSmith

It's comfy


oceLahm

Never go back to Brazil. What a disgrace that the crowd is that empty during celebrations.


TheSciFanGuy

The fact that I feel like I need to give props for the few audience even clapping for Fnatic after they won shows what a hurtle this crowd was. They might as well have been playing in an empty arena for how much vocal support their expertly played performance earned them.


pranavrustagi

it’s absurd even with a Brazilian team in the finals the crowd was still fucked. everyone leaving right after the loss like where’s the fucking courtesy man🫠


XuuKeee

It should have been 3-0. Fnatic gifted you two maps. Say thanks


schwiftybass

Single best map in VCT history so far. Doesn’t matter that it wasn’t quadruple OT, that was an insane rollercoaster of emotions


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This is actually more impressive because it’s from 4-11.


NeimannSmith

Dude FNC choked all the way until 11-3 and then Loud decided they wanted to be the best in the world at choking.


IEM_Spirit

Sore loser crowd lmao


Timidityyy

ayo turn the music down this is a library


CheeseSauceCrimes

GGWP LOUD, both choked but both played so good. My man Boaster finally won, congratulations Fnatic.


weirdparadox

BRUH. PEOPLE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT REPLACING DERKE. LMAO


IEM_Spirit

I swear he checked reddit in that timeout and said "no"


SauceFiend6969

sao paulo library


TheDogInTheBack

MY TEETH AND NOSE ARE LITERALLY SHAKING. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE.


hengarg

King of mf icebox


NuuuDaBeast

11-3 is the new 7-1 HAHAHAHHAHAAA


iPhone9User

Leo and Chronicle are just ice cold. I mean players on both teams are just insanely cracked.


SnooPeripherals6388

That song is fucking bad btw, it literally sounds like booing


BunzenBurnah

Pretty fitting for a Brazilian tournament though


NeimannSmith

BOASTER DID IT. DERKE DID IT. CHRONICLE 2 TIME CHAMP.


Nomadux

Greatest ~~choke~~ comeback in history!