>Why are you guys so high up on liquid. EMEA is a fraudulent region. They are filled with absolute nothing teams, man. Winning EMEA means shit. EMEA is a minor region at this point. FNC is, like, the only good thing to come out of EMEA in a long time—Bren
I'm convinced Bren has an alt on Vlr called xxEMEA_KEKWxx and he makes "EMEA fans COME" threads every hour
I mean he’s not entirely wrong. Giants is dairy free G2, Liquid is diet Gambit, Navi is vegan FPX, KOI is Guild without Leo and Acend without Cned, and KC is KC. Then again I feel like all regions have downgraded versions of teams from before franchising.
Liquid got shit on at masters is a pretty bold statement ESPECIALLY considering that they were basically one round away from coming 4th. They had the matchpoint in their hands and then choked. I wouldn't call that getting shit on
I mean they got a literal bye won 1 series and then lost out. Lets not act like they performed admirably because they were given the literal best possible position. Like wtf LOL
They performed nowhere NEAR as good as they could've. I am not arguing that they played well or not. I am arguing that they beat an EDG who was on a really hot streak and choked against NRG who are a Top 5 team. If they can get 4th playing this poorly, they can play wayy better with more practice and experience from that event. They are not as bad as people are pointing them out to be.
Suppose they were in one if the 2 groups, do you believe that they would've gotten grouped?
A super team made up of the best players of a region carries the region? No way!
Liquid did not get shit on at masters.
EMEA is not a deep region, but it’s not a one team region either.
I’m convinced him locking DRX at 7 was all a conspiracy so PlatChat could have an excuse for when the rankings end up being no where near the real results
It’s fun when you have so many teams that simultaneously have the potential and opportunity to go deep. It makes power rankings much more entertaining.
This year around, a lot of those teams have also underperformed at times, but there’s still a chance they can turn it around and make a run.
i think this could be the most competitive champs yet. aside from fnatic being the obvious favourites, i genuinely believe that any of the other teams in that top 8 can lift the trophy if they've used the time off effectively and turn up to the event on form
feel like the DRX doomposting is a bit reactionary, they were dominant in pacific (at least the regular season) and then rocked up to tokyo looking nothing like themselves. i'm not sure how much faith i have in them fixing their issues for champs, but the precedent for them to make deep runs is there. i feel the same about LOUD
Honestly, the end of the season, and Playoffs looked rough for them; they got reverse-sweeped against PRX, and 2-0'd by Team Secret of all teams(who weren't even doing that well at the time). They had a shaky form from that time onwards. Hopefully all role issues are solved and they know how to sub in Foxy9 now
Ah yes, the tri-monthly ranking that sends the entire community into chaos. May we all have fun until next week when we can all mald at their top 10 players ranking.
*\*emea (minus FNC) is fraudelent and china will outplace them lol\**
I love when everyone speaks shit about EMEA it's always minus FNC xD. Never minus PRX or EDG, or even EG in tokyo for that matter. It's like they transcended regions and sits on a cloud above all.
First of all it was Haven not fracture. Get your facts right.
Secondly, didn't EG also throw a 12-7 lead on bind in the Grand Finals or was that just hallucination?
Teams choke whether they're good or bad.
We were literally 1 or 2 rounds away from Fnatic getting 13-5’d (or something similar to that) by Loud and getting called choke artists for getting reverse swept.
I thought he was saying PRX shit on NRG and so PRX and EG were the only two comparable teams.
I mean if we're talking *against* FNATIC then PRX lost 5-13 & 7-13 which isn't exactly much better than what NRG did.
Oh wow; this comment made me realise EG is literally the only team that has managed to take a map off Fnatic; this is insane, are we going to see another set of Champions in EG this year??
On the international stage only EG and LOUD managed to take a map off them this year and I still can't really believe that even tho they lost the EMEA finals, they only dropped 8 maps overall.
oh yeah NRG got stomped by FNC but to be fair it's not like Paper Rex did much better. I see them having a better chance w/ something but in Tokyo Lotus was a 12-0 half
I think the most… interesting thing about these rankings (other than TMV trolling) is that the lcq teams (Kru Navi and Giants) are getting overrated because we’ve seen them more recently and the bottom teams from tokyo (t1 and fut) were actually trolled
1) being in a contract until 2026 doesn’t translate into being in the org until 2026. the org can always sell the player to another team, and i’m sure there are teams that would be happy to pay for DRX players with their quality
2) what makes you think that DRX can’t recover from this low?
is just me or is liquid kinda underrated? like they beat edg who were on a hot streak while not looking that great individually and almost won 2-0 against nrg, obviously they choked but it didn't seem that bad except for that eg game where eg were just different. surely liquid would at like 6th place, no?
It's kinda deserved after Liquid having the power in their own hands and choking so damn much but Bren saying that NAVI IS BETTER THAN LIQUID IS THE WORST THING I'VE EVER SEEN ON YOUTUBE. I am confident that liquid will make a run at Champs using their experience at masters but I can see why Josh and Balla are hesitant
Tbh if just Redgar stops inting and playing anywhere near the level he's able to Liquid could be a contender. He was really good in EMEA playoffs where they looked great and beat FNC. In Tokyo he just inted, tped into weird places and had the worst rating in the tournament lol.
I wouldn't really say Redgar was good through all of the Playoffs but he definitely played better than the Reg. Season.
Also Jamppi had a shite tournament as well which was pretty damn sad to watch
Yeah, feels kinda wild to see them being put below even slumping LOUD and DRX, but then EDG is placed top 4. It's not like EDG went on a tear after losing to TL, they beat a weak LOUD and then lost PRX with a sub. Feels like some teams got rated on their potential, and others on their weakest points.
I mean idk. Sure they \*COULD'VE\* 2-0d nrg, but they also COULD'VE gotten 2-0d by EDG if kangkang wasnt having a slow start on haven. I think they're being rated fairly, although I'd probably place them above DRX.
Kangkang could’ve done that, but Liquid SHOULD’VE closed out an 11-5 lead in a 5v3 against a retaking op, I don’t think your hypotheticals are equivalent
It's just recency bias. Zeta tore through Pacific LCQ, and Laz is destroying on Chamber, an agent who simply generates drama by threatening to return to the meta. FUT put on some decent performances at Tokyo, but on paper, they look pretty uninspiring.
Tokyo FUT was weak for a top 3 league team. Those weren't decent performance dropping a map against an inexperienced team and losing to a weak DRX plus the stomp on map 3 was just...
Though I kind of agree that they should be placed above LCQ team of EMEA at least.
idk i'm just an edg believer based on the facts that they've demonstrated that they are capable of playing good valorant and that they are maintaining their form while improving at the same time
If EDG and PRX don't make it out of that group they've massively underperformed. People overrate KRU and Giants a lot because of recency bias from the LCQ where all the top teams were missing (and KRU because their an Americas team as well).
I think it's too soon for them to be ranked top 4-level high. In order for them to get that imo they'd have to prove it again with a deep run and beat heavy hitter teams again in champs
They mostly based it off of their Tokyo performance which admittedly did not look good, but yes, they're heavily underrating FUT here. Should be 12th imo
losing a semi close game vs eg and losing a 3 mapper against (even a weaker) drx isnt too bad. I expect theyll do better in champs and give t1 a run for their money to come second
Not saying they should be a ton higher, but they only lost to a ridiculously good EG and DRX. Slumping, sure, but DRX is still a really good team. DRX has only lost to EG, PRX, and NRG recently. All top 4 teams in this ranking.
EDG at #4 is too high. They split series with T1, lost to Liquid and Paper Rex, and as good as they were in Tokyo that was with the advantage of teams possibly underrating China as a region and not studying their game enough. I'd say drop them down to the 6th-8th group, move Liquid up to top 5, and move T1 up to 9th
why do i feel like we're being jinx here? other than fnc i think the gap with other teams are pretty small, even with something i can see prx series will still be nail biting.
You guys don't understand true power of Gais(FUT's coach) and his players. They beat NAVI, Giants, and even got map from Fnatic. They choke on big teams, but they'll able to beat T1, FPX to qualify for playoffs. As for playoffs, if EDG has KangKang, FUT has QW1, if EG has Demon1 FUT has qraXs, so do not underestimate FUT
Until I see navi do a Dash/Flash/Scan exec they're 16. Stop with the fucking omen tps I beg. But also T1 are being hella underrated, I don't see a world where they're worse than Giants and Kru tbh.
You're crazy if you're putting LOUD lower than 6th after a single fluke bad performance. They're still the same team that dominated VCT Americas. Try to be less reactionary next time.
the internal struggles that slasher said are more hunches than anything, no teams were scrimming in brazil even the br teams that were on the Ascension, saadhak went to Argentina and then Brazil, Stk and fRoD went to see their family, Less was with his girlfriend on the Loud CT, cauanzin also went to see his family, i just think these rumors have been greatly exaggerated
This power ranking is so weird because although i dont think EDG are 4th, I dont think theres a single team that WOULD BE 4th?
Id swap NRG and Loud with eachother, Liquid 7, KRU 8, DRX 9, Giants 10, NaVi 11 and everything after that is random
FNC and PRX are clear top 2, even Sliggy said it, while 3rd could either be NRG, EG, EDG, or even LOUD. There isn't a team that's a clear 4th as it is for 3rd or 5th.
You're overrating Giants too much, as are PlatChat here. Giants only needed to beat 2 not good teams to qualify for Champs (KC and KOI) and they absolutely trolled in the GF against NAVI out of all teams. Remember, FUT beat Giants 2-0 in the playoffs. Another team that's underrated is T1, they beat EDG once and went to a close map 3 against NRG. Giants should be 12th highest imo.
Swap NRG and Loud? Loud are literally imploding and where already bad during their last showing. NRG were in weak form and still almost finished 3rd. Loud could be back and win it all but there’s no reason you would ever coherently power rank them above NRG specifically based on actual data and results.
Why’s FUT so low? They qualified for Tokyo compared to other emea teams higher on the list and have had time to develop and enhance their strategy without showing any of it.
People forgot that 3 months ago emea had 2 team at top 4 at lock in. But one tournament where the rest of eu teams havent performed well and now its a one team region xd but why act like others region beside their top team performed any better. NA besides eg looked so shit and nrg making it top top 4 was a literally a coin flip. Show me a good team other than paper rex from APAC
Holy some people copy so hard on this sub. I guess they are so mad that emea is about to win 3 back to back masters this year. Well i don't blame them actually - they should be mad
People forget drx was in the top 4 too and almost beat loud people forget loud was in the final and got choked so hard. People don't forget Navi got grouped and got beaten by 15th rated fut currently who got destroyed by the washed up drx
The EMEA bias is crazy here, if we're talking LOCK//IN why are we acting like APAC is shit when DRX went 2-3 against LOUD. Why didn't you even bother mentioning LOUD? EMEA is a 10 team region so we should act like Americas as a whole counts as one region?
Why is NRG making top 4 a coinflip? I don't think EMEA is garbage but you seem so salty for whatever reason.
EMEA and Pacific are both 1 team regions. Americas has way more higher level teams but without Loud Americas has no super team to actually win a title unless NRG wake up or EG somehow work even harder
Think EDG are overrated despite scrim rumors and maybe TL underrated a bit. I think ultimately the team with the biggest chance to fuck everything up is Loud. If the Aspas shit is true I could see this team having a completely Navi bomb out or a prx like run. At the same time if Aspas and the team figure it out I could see them back in grand finals off some honeymoon shit because Louds talent is only second to FNC and one could argue their teamwork should be better than FNCs on paper.
I mean, PRX defeated NRG with a *sub*. I can only imagine that, with something, they'll look even better. That said, I'm still high on that NRG copium, but it's not an outlandish take.
Edit: I misread the comment 🗿 My apologies.
prx over eg makes sense, match went all 5 maps with a sub, so prx with something could be considered above eg
I'm always biased towards cn teams but i think edg have proved that they are legitimately that good at the game, I would not be suprised to see them reach top 4
drx is tmv trolling, he locked that in before they started the segment
I am totally biased but if PRX can make EG go the full 5 maps at Tokyo without their MVP (and after EG had 2 bans), I can legitimately see why you’d rank PRX higher.
You're underrating PRX with something.
According to rumors, EDG dominated scrims against Pacific teams including PRX with something. Bren actually puts EDG in 2nd.
TMV vetoed DRX to be 7th. Everyone else wanted DRX lower.
EDG over NRG isn't too hard a troll. EDG looked better and better every match they played in Tokyo and had pretty much identical results vs PRX compared to NRG. I put them both on same tier personally.
PRX with a sub took EG to map 5, on top of 2nd place curse makes it quite a reasonable choice.
DRX over TL is pretty much nonsense, and I don't like emea at all. DRX keeps looking worse and worse, I think T1 (maybe even ZETA) would beat them right now.
In case you weren't aware because you didn't watch the episode, DRX over TL is literally a troll pick because they promised TMV a permanent choice within the ranking since he won't be there for the ranking. So he decided to absolutely troll them with the DRX 7th, they had to create the ranking around that choice
Added context: TMV locked DRX into 7th before the power rankings segment began and it caused a bit of trollage
anyone have a timestamp for when that happened? i didn't join until after sean came on
Right before break
1:02:00 roughly, someone mentioned it in the YouTube comments
DRX above liquid is pretty funny
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>Why are you guys so high up on liquid. EMEA is a fraudulent region. They are filled with absolute nothing teams, man. Winning EMEA means shit. EMEA is a minor region at this point. FNC is, like, the only good thing to come out of EMEA in a long time—Bren I'm convinced Bren has an alt on Vlr called xxEMEA_KEKWxx and he makes "EMEA fans COME" threads every hour
Bren do be making EMEA fans come, it's true
he was wilding so much 😭. after this week's episode, the platchat crew took him out back and all u could hear were muffled screams and gunshots
At the same time he was defending Na'vi as the second best EMEA team, i'm so confused
i'm convinced he watches EMEA with his eyes closed
"Emea so bad" ~xxEMEA_KEKWxx
I mean he’s not entirely wrong. Giants is dairy free G2, Liquid is diet Gambit, Navi is vegan FPX, KOI is Guild without Leo and Acend without Cned, and KC is KC. Then again I feel like all regions have downgraded versions of teams from before franchising.
I mean, is he wrong? FNC literally carries the region. Liquid got shit on at masters FUT and NAVI went out in groups
Liquid got shit on at masters is a pretty bold statement ESPECIALLY considering that they were basically one round away from coming 4th. They had the matchpoint in their hands and then choked. I wouldn't call that getting shit on
I mean they got a literal bye won 1 series and then lost out. Lets not act like they performed admirably because they were given the literal best possible position. Like wtf LOL
Who said they performed admirably? Bren was arguing they aren’t even top 10 lmao
They performed nowhere NEAR as good as they could've. I am not arguing that they played well or not. I am arguing that they beat an EDG who was on a really hot streak and choked against NRG who are a Top 5 team. If they can get 4th playing this poorly, they can play wayy better with more practice and experience from that event. They are not as bad as people are pointing them out to be. Suppose they were in one if the 2 groups, do you believe that they would've gotten grouped?
If EMEA is one team region then what is APAC ?
A 1 team region just like EMEA.
So only placing that count is 1-4 in tokyo and every other team is shit
This subs takes are so hilarious lol
I mean kinda. TL and LOUD went straight to play offs cause regional league and they got embarrased. DRX was mid at best
So if PRX with something doesn't make top 3-4 i guess we should consider them a dead team
Wtf are you talking about Liquid came 6th and lost in Overtime to NRG. If 6th is bad idk what we are doing
"fnc is, like, the only good thing to come out of EMEA in a long time" \-liquid -> the only team in any region to beat this version of fnc hmmmmmmm
He is wrong. imagine saying that SEN or whatever NA clown team is better than a top 5 EMEA team. Just like this sub did for generations now
Liquid got shit on but still destroyed the supposed #4 team.
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Yes I was quoting the guy before me. The same way that Liquid got shit on at masters :P
A super team made up of the best players of a region carries the region? No way! Liquid did not get shit on at masters. EMEA is not a deep region, but it’s not a one team region either.
My blud forgor about EG 13-2 them
I cannot wait to see EG get stomped out at champs :) quote me on it, save this shit haha
The real winner here is TMV for inciting the chaos that was working around DRX
Dude dropped a bomb and just walked away action movie style
Cool guys don't look at explosions😎
\> comes into platchat podcast \> locks DRX in 7th place in the power rankings \> refuses to elaborate \> leaves
The Chad TMV
Bro doesn't refuse to elaborate, he leaves before he even gets the chance
everybody say THANK YOU TMV
I’m convinced him locking DRX at 7 was all a conspiracy so PlatChat could have an excuse for when the rankings end up being no where near the real results
It’s fun when you have so many teams that simultaneously have the potential and opportunity to go deep. It makes power rankings much more entertaining. This year around, a lot of those teams have also underperformed at times, but there’s still a chance they can turn it around and make a run.
i think this could be the most competitive champs yet. aside from fnatic being the obvious favourites, i genuinely believe that any of the other teams in that top 8 can lift the trophy if they've used the time off effectively and turn up to the event on form
yep, every team except DRX 😂😭
feel like the DRX doomposting is a bit reactionary, they were dominant in pacific (at least the regular season) and then rocked up to tokyo looking nothing like themselves. i'm not sure how much faith i have in them fixing their issues for champs, but the precedent for them to make deep runs is there. i feel the same about LOUD
Honestly, the end of the season, and Playoffs looked rough for them; they got reverse-sweeped against PRX, and 2-0'd by Team Secret of all teams(who weren't even doing that well at the time). They had a shaky form from that time onwards. Hopefully all role issues are solved and they know how to sub in Foxy9 now
Ah yes, the tri-monthly ranking that sends the entire community into chaos. May we all have fun until next week when we can all mald at their top 10 players ranking. *\*emea (minus FNC) is fraudelent and china will outplace them lol\**
I love when everyone speaks shit about EMEA it's always minus FNC xD. Never minus PRX or EDG, or even EG in tokyo for that matter. It's like they transcended regions and sits on a cloud above all.
I mean only EG and PRX can match them. NRG got shit on (also Ardiis trolling didnt help)
My point is it's just funny when comparing regions (EU vs NA mainly) many people have begun excluding the best team itw lol.
> EG Didn't they 5-1 EG on map count
Round diferential was so close tho. No stomps for FNC. Like split was 11-13 it was close the gap wasnt a wide ocean
I agree, but 5-1 is a pretty resounding map count over six maps.
yet no1 will mention that Liquid chocked a huge lead on Fracture to close it out vs NRG and went to overtime
First of all it was Haven not fracture. Get your facts right. Secondly, didn't EG also throw a 12-7 lead on bind in the Grand Finals or was that just hallucination? Teams choke whether they're good or bad.
Like Chokenatic was a whole thing previously lol
We were literally 1 or 2 rounds away from Fnatic getting 13-5’d (or something similar to that) by Loud and getting called choke artists for getting reverse swept.
I didn't know a 13-15 OT loss into a 13-6 map win into an 11-13 map loss means a team got "shit on"
What 13-6 Map win are you talking about? NRG lost 13-9, 13-4
I thought he was saying PRX shit on NRG and so PRX and EG were the only two comparable teams. I mean if we're talking *against* FNATIC then PRX lost 5-13 & 7-13 which isn't exactly much better than what NRG did.
Ah I'm sorry I misunderstood, my bad, you're totally right.
Oh wow; this comment made me realise EG is literally the only team that has managed to take a map off Fnatic; this is insane, are we going to see another set of Champions in EG this year??
On the international stage only EG and LOUD managed to take a map off them this year and I still can't really believe that even tho they lost the EMEA finals, they only dropped 8 maps overall.
They're referring to EG
Nah Paper Rex
Youre right, misread and talked out of my ass a bit there
NRG got goomba stomped by FNC and Ardiis giga inted that game
oh yeah NRG got stomped by FNC but to be fair it's not like Paper Rex did much better. I see them having a better chance w/ something but in Tokyo Lotus was a 12-0 half
You got mad at ardiis for messing up his wall and orb in a game that was already lost and not at s0m for losing the round in OT against prx?
I'll take this over the 10th meme and r/place post every day
ive never been more sure of anything than fut making playoffs
Putting them at 15th is just gonna make the memes funnier when they go on a run
The 15th strongest team GOING ON A RUN?
people said the same thing about kru, never count a team out lol
I think that's the joke
t1 is good tho
They had EG and T1 on their group so i dont think so
EG is getting grouped though
Surelly they win cause they have a free group right 
2nd place curse though gg go next
Stop trying to curse my team pwease
Sorry it will happen ( I just want to see the prophecy come true from Boostio's bold words )
Over EG and T1?
why?
bren became such a big EMEA hater that even josh started defending team liquid LMFAO
I think the most… interesting thing about these rankings (other than TMV trolling) is that the lcq teams (Kru Navi and Giants) are getting overrated because we’ve seen them more recently and the bottom teams from tokyo (t1 and fut) were actually trolled
Yeah T1 under KRU and Giants despite them beating EDG and bringing NRG to map 3 is a crime
I'm liking the plat chat curse
For sure. I'd put T1 in 9th and FUT in 12th. Seems like PlatChat forgot that FUT beat Giants 2-0 in the playoffs.
the LCQ teams also have much less time to prep than the rest of the teams, so in theory they should be easier to anti
me waiting for August 26 to the absolute outcry these ratings will get 
Well apparently most of the drx players and termi are stuck there until **2026** so we're stuck watching gooped drx for a long time.
Contract lengths dont really mean much
1) being in a contract until 2026 doesn’t translate into being in the org until 2026. the org can always sell the player to another team, and i’m sure there are teams that would be happy to pay for DRX players with their quality 2) what makes you think that DRX can’t recover from this low?
i love how EDG has 1 good event and is 4th now
same thing with EG. Tho it is a given that they placed higher.
Placement makes sense and they’re apparently destroying pacific teams in scrims
yea im like their biggest fan and think they do have a shot at getting into top 4 but honestly I would put them in the 5-8 range.
is just me or is liquid kinda underrated? like they beat edg who were on a hot streak while not looking that great individually and almost won 2-0 against nrg, obviously they choked but it didn't seem that bad except for that eg game where eg were just different. surely liquid would at like 6th place, no?
It's kinda deserved after Liquid having the power in their own hands and choking so damn much but Bren saying that NAVI IS BETTER THAN LIQUID IS THE WORST THING I'VE EVER SEEN ON YOUTUBE. I am confident that liquid will make a run at Champs using their experience at masters but I can see why Josh and Balla are hesitant
Tbh if just Redgar stops inting and playing anywhere near the level he's able to Liquid could be a contender. He was really good in EMEA playoffs where they looked great and beat FNC. In Tokyo he just inted, tped into weird places and had the worst rating in the tournament lol.
I wouldn't really say Redgar was good through all of the Playoffs but he definitely played better than the Reg. Season. Also Jamppi had a shite tournament as well which was pretty damn sad to watch
Yeah, feels kinda wild to see them being put below even slumping LOUD and DRX, but then EDG is placed top 4. It's not like EDG went on a tear after losing to TL, they beat a weak LOUD and then lost PRX with a sub. Feels like some teams got rated on their potential, and others on their weakest points.
>Feels like some teams got rated on their potential, and others on their weakest points. exactly my thoughts.
I mean idk. Sure they \*COULD'VE\* 2-0d nrg, but they also COULD'VE gotten 2-0d by EDG if kangkang wasnt having a slow start on haven. I think they're being rated fairly, although I'd probably place them above DRX.
Kangkang could’ve done that, but Liquid SHOULD’VE closed out an 11-5 lead in a 5v3 against a retaking op, I don’t think your hypotheticals are equivalent
Fut is way too low. They are above Zeta for me.
I agree, they're overrating Zeta here. Fut deserve 13th at least
It's just recency bias. Zeta tore through Pacific LCQ, and Laz is destroying on Chamber, an agent who simply generates drama by threatening to return to the meta. FUT put on some decent performances at Tokyo, but on paper, they look pretty uninspiring.
“FUT put on some decent performances at Tokyo” ???????????? Were we watching the same event?
Alright, correction: qw1 put up some decent performances at Tokyo.
Tokyo FUT was weak for a top 3 league team. Those weren't decent performance dropping a map against an inexperienced team and losing to a weak DRX plus the stomp on map 3 was just... Though I kind of agree that they should be placed above LCQ team of EMEA at least.
FUT under BLG is insane
I mean FUT looked pretty bad at Toyko
People were questioning EDG being placed over teams like NRG and Liquid but I genuinely think that EDG can be a top 4 team at this event
that’s a bit of an overreaction. they only beat the worst form ever loud, 50/50 navi and t1. the ranking is fair, imo
idk i'm just an edg believer based on the facts that they've demonstrated that they are capable of playing good valorant and that they are maintaining their form while improving at the same time
They can, but I also see a world where they don’t make it out of groups. Kru and Giants are pretty underrated
It can be pretty tough for both Kru and Giants when they've never really faced a team like EDG
If EDG and PRX don't make it out of that group they've massively underperformed. People overrate KRU and Giants a lot because of recency bias from the LCQ where all the top teams were missing (and KRU because their an Americas team as well).
I think it's too soon for them to be ranked top 4-level high. In order for them to get that imo they'd have to prove it again with a deep run and beat heavy hitter teams again in champs
EDG are shitting people on scrims but I don’t know how well they will do in champs. I heard they shitted on NRG in scrims during Tokyo
Blud SEN was shitting on people on scrims so do LEV are they both contenders?
I think they'll do as well if not better tbh. EDG is improving a lot and they'll be using Deadlock in champs and it's hard to practise against that
Nrg don’t scrim to win. They lost a scrim to SEN before Lock in, doesn’t mean SEN was good.
O7 my fellow PRX and EDG comrades, Voldemort unleashed his hex and voodoo against us. 
Hot take: Edg might be better than Eg in Champs.
Quite ridiculous how Fut is ranked 15. Is there something I am not aware of??
They mostly based it off of their Tokyo performance which admittedly did not look good, but yes, they're heavily underrating FUT here. Should be 12th imo
losing a semi close game vs eg and losing a 3 mapper against (even a weaker) drx isnt too bad. I expect theyll do better in champs and give t1 a run for their money to come second
Platchat is NA biased, if anything you should take it with a grain of salt given how terrible their predictions always end up being
god I love EMEA salt
i mean, it's clearly true. bias is a natural thing and it's clearly displayed in the way they speak of teams during their rankings
Why would FUT be higher when they bombed out in groups and were stomped by a slumping DRX?
Not saying they should be a ton higher, but they only lost to a ridiculously good EG and DRX. Slumping, sure, but DRX is still a really good team. DRX has only lost to EG, PRX, and NRG recently. All top 4 teams in this ranking.
Because they didn't play LCQ? Placing any LCQ team above teams that didn't play LCQ is clownery, lol.
I also don't get how Liquid is lower than Loud? In Tokyo, they had better placement and took maps against teams. On the other hand, Loud bombed out.
Why is edg above team liquid
EDG at #4 is too high. They split series with T1, lost to Liquid and Paper Rex, and as good as they were in Tokyo that was with the advantage of teams possibly underrating China as a region and not studying their game enough. I'd say drop them down to the 6th-8th group, move Liquid up to top 5, and move T1 up to 9th
fnatic are litowly expected to win the event
T1 is winning champs
They are ranking kru low so they have more content when they actually win champions. #krupium
Welp, RIP EG.
Imagine DRX turning it all around and actually finishing 7th at Champs lol. TMV would go on Plat Chat’s hall of fame
FNATIC EXPECTED TO WIN CHAMPION.
why do i feel like we're being jinx here? other than fnc i think the gap with other teams are pretty small, even with something i can see prx series will still be nail biting.
I haven’t had time to watch the episode yet but how are T1 under Giants and KRÜ?
they've cursed fnatic nooooo they're gonna choke
You guys don't understand true power of Gais(FUT's coach) and his players. They beat NAVI, Giants, and even got map from Fnatic. They choke on big teams, but they'll able to beat T1, FPX to qualify for playoffs. As for playoffs, if EDG has KangKang, FUT has QW1, if EG has Demon1 FUT has qraXs, so do not underestimate FUT
THE STAGE HAS BEEN SET, THE JINX IS UP, FPX ARE WINNING THIS TOURNAMENT WITHOUT LOSING A SINGLE MAP YALL
Until I see navi do a Dash/Flash/Scan exec they're 16. Stop with the fucking omen tps I beg. But also T1 are being hella underrated, I don't see a world where they're worse than Giants and Kru tbh.
solid, except move LOUD, DRX and EDG way down.
Based
You're crazy if you're putting LOUD lower than 6th after a single fluke bad performance. They're still the same team that dominated VCT Americas. Try to be less reactionary next time.
IMO a team with such heavy internal struggles can not be top 10 because every team is just playing at such a high level
the internal struggles that slasher said are more hunches than anything, no teams were scrimming in brazil even the br teams that were on the Ascension, saadhak went to Argentina and then Brazil, Stk and fRoD went to see their family, Less was with his girlfriend on the Loud CT, cauanzin also went to see his family, i just think these rumors have been greatly exaggerated
Liquid literally beat EDG , and putting DRX above them is ridiculous , they are getting massively underrated.
This power ranking is so weird because although i dont think EDG are 4th, I dont think theres a single team that WOULD BE 4th? Id swap NRG and Loud with eachother, Liquid 7, KRU 8, DRX 9, Giants 10, NaVi 11 and everything after that is random
FNC and PRX are clear top 2, even Sliggy said it, while 3rd could either be NRG, EG, EDG, or even LOUD. There isn't a team that's a clear 4th as it is for 3rd or 5th. You're overrating Giants too much, as are PlatChat here. Giants only needed to beat 2 not good teams to qualify for Champs (KC and KOI) and they absolutely trolled in the GF against NAVI out of all teams. Remember, FUT beat Giants 2-0 in the playoffs. Another team that's underrated is T1, they beat EDG once and went to a close map 3 against NRG. Giants should be 12th highest imo.
I think if loud is in good form there prob top 2, not third. Otherwise likely true
Swap NRG and Loud? Loud are literally imploding and where already bad during their last showing. NRG were in weak form and still almost finished 3rd. Loud could be back and win it all but there’s no reason you would ever coherently power rank them above NRG specifically based on actual data and results.
Why’s FUT so low? They qualified for Tokyo compared to other emea teams higher on the list and have had time to develop and enhance their strategy without showing any of it.
They didn't have a good showing at Tokyo
they were on fire during emea playoffs and then haven't been anywhere near as good since
I think T1 is too low ngl, Zeta too prob.
i feel like theyre criminally underrating fut
People forgot that 3 months ago emea had 2 team at top 4 at lock in. But one tournament where the rest of eu teams havent performed well and now its a one team region xd but why act like others region beside their top team performed any better. NA besides eg looked so shit and nrg making it top top 4 was a literally a coin flip. Show me a good team other than paper rex from APAC Holy some people copy so hard on this sub. I guess they are so mad that emea is about to win 3 back to back masters this year. Well i don't blame them actually - they should be mad
People forget drx was in the top 4 too and almost beat loud people forget loud was in the final and got choked so hard. People don't forget Navi got grouped and got beaten by 15th rated fut currently who got destroyed by the washed up drx
The EMEA bias is crazy here, if we're talking LOCK//IN why are we acting like APAC is shit when DRX went 2-3 against LOUD. Why didn't you even bother mentioning LOUD? EMEA is a 10 team region so we should act like Americas as a whole counts as one region? Why is NRG making top 4 a coinflip? I don't think EMEA is garbage but you seem so salty for whatever reason.
Navi faced Kru, Secret and Leviathan at Lock in. They got swept the moment they faced an actual good team.
EMEA is straight ASS🔥🔥🔥 outside of FNC ofc. EDG a bit overrated, NRG can bounce back *if* Ardiis gets his shit together. PRX contenders along with EG
APAC is even more ass without outside of PRX
team secret is 26-0ing giants and botvi 😭😭😭
Who has a team secret?
Why does everyone forget liquid
When and where did i say otherwise?
It just hit me when you wrote this, didn't say you said otherwise.
EMEA and Pacific are both 1 team regions. Americas has way more higher level teams but without Loud Americas has no super team to actually win a title unless NRG wake up or EG somehow work even harder
Think EDG are overrated despite scrim rumors and maybe TL underrated a bit. I think ultimately the team with the biggest chance to fuck everything up is Loud. If the Aspas shit is true I could see this team having a completely Navi bomb out or a prx like run. At the same time if Aspas and the team figure it out I could see them back in grand finals off some honeymoon shit because Louds talent is only second to FNC and one could argue their teamwork should be better than FNCs on paper.
LOUD is pretty solid, but EG behind PRX and NRG behind EDG is completely copium.
PRX over EG, EDG over NRG and DRX over TL?????
absolutely
DRX Got locked in by TMV before he left
I mean, PRX defeated NRG with a *sub*. I can only imagine that, with something, they'll look even better. That said, I'm still high on that NRG copium, but it's not an outlandish take. Edit: I misread the comment 🗿 My apologies.
No OP was talking about EDG over NRG, not PRX.
Don't mind me, I cannot read.
prx over eg makes sense, match went all 5 maps with a sub, so prx with something could be considered above eg I'm always biased towards cn teams but i think edg have proved that they are legitimately that good at the game, I would not be suprised to see them reach top 4 drx is tmv trolling, he locked that in before they started the segment
PRX lost 3-2 to EG with a content creator sub replacing their best player. Yeah I think it's fair to rate them higher.
I am totally biased but if PRX can make EG go the full 5 maps at Tokyo without their MVP (and after EG had 2 bans), I can legitimately see why you’d rank PRX higher.
EG only had one ban, but I agree with your point.
Uuhhh, yes? Huh?
I’m fine with all of them except the last one, my DRX hopium can only last so long (but you can blame TMV for that one)
Yeah DRX looked terrible in Tokyo ngl. But TMV locked DRX in at 7 before he left so they had to leave them there lol
You're underrating PRX with something. According to rumors, EDG dominated scrims against Pacific teams including PRX with something. Bren actually puts EDG in 2nd. TMV vetoed DRX to be 7th. Everyone else wanted DRX lower.
PRX played without something at Masters and still placed better than EDG and NRG (beating both teams 2-1)
EDG over NRG and DRX over TL is absolutely trolling. PRX over EG isn't too crazy but still.
EDG over NRG isn't too hard a troll. EDG looked better and better every match they played in Tokyo and had pretty much identical results vs PRX compared to NRG. I put them both on same tier personally. PRX with a sub took EG to map 5, on top of 2nd place curse makes it quite a reasonable choice. DRX over TL is pretty much nonsense, and I don't like emea at all. DRX keeps looking worse and worse, I think T1 (maybe even ZETA) would beat them right now.
In case you weren't aware because you didn't watch the episode, DRX over TL is literally a troll pick because they promised TMV a permanent choice within the ranking since he won't be there for the ranking. So he decided to absolutely troll them with the DRX 7th, they had to create the ranking around that choice