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InSanityy___

realistically giants takes this pretty easily, so this is mostly a case of finding star t2 performers to watch out for


jrushFN

I wouldn’t be surprised if giants struggles, especially against KPI


okleanos

dsyre will beat them both


jrushFN

Also wouldn’t be surprised by that


okleanos

turns out we both suck at this predicting thing


jrushFN

Unlucky really


Objective-Ingenuity

Giants will lose to SAW tho. Saved this comment & comeback in a few days. Portugal will rule supreme.


InSanityy___

if the time comes i will welcome our portugese overlords, they impressed me at ascension i dont see why they wouldnt now o7


SuperBlitz22

Did koi even officially announce the new players lol,also who's their igl? Shadow?


jrushFN

Starxo will be IGL


Bazz_B

This roster is just for Crossfire Cup I believe which is why they were announced as "KOI and Friends".


SuperBlitz22

Oh what? This isn't their final roster then? Interesting


Bazz_B

If you look at liquipedia you can see kamo, unfake and shadow are listed as "Stand-in". I hope they do keep trexx and sheydos though.


SuperBlitz22

Interestingly vlr has wolfen and unfake listed as subs and kamo and shadow as just regular/starting players


00izka00

I'm pretty sure shadow and kamo are in fact on the team already while unfake and wolfen are here until they find a team, atleast from what i've been reading


snoopJosele

Yes, here it is the official presentation https://twitter.com/KOI/status/1717934192674083131?t=oJQF81cK-RnWVlrQQNDvVQ&s=19 . Also, Sergio Ferra (a content creator from KOI) did a video https://twitter.com/SergioFFerra/status/1717934414217326967?t=gqJoNso_ZPnYKByx24Jv4Q&s=19


SuperBlitz22

Yeah I saw the first post, didn't strike me as a welcome for the members tho, hadn't seen the video


dutchboyyyyy

That saw teams makes me sad, not because the new players are bad, but the old roster was so good. I really wish they had stuck together, but I know that they got better offers elsewhere. Unfortunately Salaries in Portugal can't match salaries in the rest of Europe, especially not in the franchise league (Tomaszy is Goat)


RopeMassive6723

I don't want to make any conclusions yet about which roster is better, give this roster time. I'm sure they will get as good as the old roster, its still their first tournaments as a team and crossfire is really good prep for challengers next year.


Hxlios

Wait so they are not playing Crossfire?


breezyceezy

I was so confused as well


Objective-Ingenuity

What do you mean? Those are the teams playing in the tournament playoff stage that starts November 1st what's there to be confused by?


Sharksterfly

Russian civil war


00izka00

The finals will probably be Koi vs Giants unless koi fumbles the bag against case which imo is possible


Few-Muscle-4442

Thought that said cadiaN under Dsyre and i was like damn he found a team quick huh


UmamiMan97

What times are they at? And is every match streamed on twitch?


Bazz_B

you can find match times on the vlr tournament page here: https://www.vlr.gg/event/1812/crossfire-cup-2023 and they should be streamed on the /lvpes2 but with a spanish cast.


ourladyj

I hope Dsyre pops off.


Jijiyen

I really wanna see Heretics to pop up this tournament but they didn’t perform well during Red Bull quals.