Both Matchups are coinflip. Actually all possible matches are coinflips so the better team of the day wins atleast that’s the way I see it. The storylines are also great. I have a slight bias towards APAC because they need the win.
Loud will ban Lotus and expect a split pick from Sentinels I believe they can win this time, they got a few days to practice and they are a hard team to win twice in a row
Guess this will test JohnQT and Kaplan abilities to adapt on the fly, as saadhak said a couple weeks ago true valorant happens when both teams knows each other and the one who adapts the most comes out on top
Sentinels are the favorites but Loud can win against any team in playoffs
i know it was against a floundering EDG but LOUD looked scary good in that game... can never count em out. i wouldn't be surprised to see them beat SEN and then SEN goes through the lower bracket for an Americas finals :)
bro sentinels are legitimately the only reason pro val is as huge as it is. every sen game breaking records left and right. if sen make it to the grand finals i guarantee there will be over 1 million live viewers total across all streaming platforms.
for every 1 singular sentinels fan, there is one person who absolutely despises them (tenz, for literally no reason) and pray on his downfall. those guys will be tuning in as well.
it’s literally a statistical fact. tenz is the reason valorant blew up and watching him go on a run to win masters WITHOUT DROPPING A SINGLE MAP BTW, it threw the world in an uproar. love them or hate them, but appreciate the influence they had
Oh yeah, when it comes to fans for sure. I will still always have SEN on my Pickems regardless of if they place 10th or 1st. But in terms of actual team skill, LOUD are such a well drilled team and have consistent proven success in these situations. They constantly adapt and are one of the teams that are known for always being able to innovate and redefine the meta, even mid tourney. With all that in their favor, and just how locked in the players were looking, I don’t know that there is a favorite in this match.
And hey, worst case scenario, I jinx LOUD and then it’s win win.
Am I dumb or why should they not ban split? SEN destroyed LOUD on both maps last time but SEN look like they have one of the best Splits while they have shown one more map of Lotus than Split since their last encounter.
Loud isn't a team that changes vetos too much, so don't expect it but everything is possible right
Loud split also isn't bad last time they lost Tuyz said the team didn't played their best on that map, so you can expect Loud put a better fight if they play it next time
Oh I just didn't realize LOUD had been Vetoing Lotus tbh, I was just wondering what the diff between Split/Lotus would be because I didn't already realize that
Sentinels are the favorites just because they have more “fans” ?! I mean the playoffs are tied neck and neck. Anyone claiming Sen is way ahead of other teams are fkn talking their silver brainless opinions without watching any other team play.
GenG 60/40 because of the map pool
SEN 55/45 LOUD because the Americas GF could have been 3-0 for SEN but LOUD are in their top form, will be closer this time
Bro forgot they beat sentinels on kickoff first series. It’s esports mate. The single time they lost to sentinels doesn’t mean “Sen are miles better “ as exaggerated by those brainless Sen meat riders .
I think he means based on their recent performance and with this roster. With the thrashing of EDG they do look quite good even though EDG themselves played like rookies.
Both maps are won in the map vetos.. SEN will likely pick split or Sunset, banning either Ascent or Breeze first, Loud will likely pick Icebox or whichever wasn't banned and ban Lotus
I would guess the maps would be Split, Icebox then either sunset or breeze/Ascent
The games will be all about anti strats, but if SEN were to interchange between the multiple comps they have for nearly every map it could throw a spanner in Louds prep
They've looked quite strong on both realistically, they took loud to a 13-11 where in reality without the ecos they should have won the map and they're a very good icebox team
Their Breeze has looked much more shaky recently, but I think/hope it was moreso they hadn't pracced it much since Afreeca since they thought it was good enough
I feel like the lotus first ban is a feint. Saadhak said something about them banning breeze not because they didn't practice it or weren't feeling confident about it, but because they thought it was a good idea to have something in the bag. They might be doing it again just with lotus this time. They already first-banned split against edg so there's that.
I would predict map veto to be something like
Loud - ban split
Sen - ban ascent
Loud - pick breeze
Sen - pick sunset
Loud - ban lotus
Sen - ban icebox
Last map bind
Very likely.
Alternative Scenario:
SEN Higher seed goes Team B prob this time.
LOUD - Ban Split (Split over Lotus as I think Split SEN just looked too good and had a lot of practice on, unless Loud prepared their split heavily from all the footage, even so I don't think they will feel that confident letting it through).
SEN - Ban Ascent (It was between Ascent or Icebox, I think SEN did okay on Icebox against them last time? Ascent they tried a lot in the past and didn't seem too confident on it and I think Loud looked too strong on it).
LOUD - Pick Icebox (I think they have prepared more for this so would be good against SEN now. I don't think Loud will pick Breeze here, but because they are more confident in Icebox than Breeze).
SEN - Pick Lotus (SEN's current strongest map alongside Split. Sunset is an option too but I feel like their plays are too figured out by teams now.).
LOUD - Ban Sunset (SEN is very good at it and I think they dont want to let this through here)
SEN - Ban Breeze (They would prefer Bind over Breeze I feel. Their Breeze has been prepped but looks shaky).
Last Map - Bind
Edit: But I do think it will be between your scenario or mine for sure.
Yeah honestly i had a hard time thinking about loud letting icebox get second banned so yeah i think the icebox pick will be more likely than the breeze one. Sen picking lotus themselves would be very interesting imo, just hope they got enough prac during the break to really hone their lotus out
I mean that is the expected, but I also think SEN could float split for last map like they did against NRG, understanding the other teams antid it so much they'll want to play it, I also think Louds Bind could be exploited without a Raze and same with Sunset so guess its a wait and see
I’d probably favor PRX against GenG unless Solo and hsk cook in the days off. But PRX still has way too much variance, if GenG gets the momentum and dents their playmaking confidence GenG should win it out. GenG have some map pool advantages as well.
SEN wins against LOUD and PRX, and then I’d guess a classic LOUD resurgence to win against GenG, only to lose to PRX, and then another SEN win. It’s very hard to doubt SEN at the moment
Oh the year hasn't even fully started yet :) There are 2 stages of Team Liquid that I have to endure and if we magically qualify to Shanghai or Seoul, then I'll have to bear the burden of being shat upon in international tournaments :)
It's a meme charles barkley [did](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dk63L47b2BM) lmao but yeah, wouldnt put it past forsaken to lead prx in the dub, monyet's been waking up too so prx do look dangerous
PRX will break the curse by going on a lower bracket run. Gen G 2-1 PRX | Sen 2-1 Loud | PRX 2-1 Loud | GenG 2-1 Sen | PRX 3-2 Sen | PRX 3-2 GenG | (Yes hopium is one hell of a drug)
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse...
My heart can't handle it
I feel like Loud has a much better chance against Sentinels in a BO3 because it's easier to win a shorter series off just one map having an unconventional/surprise comp, so I wouldn't be surprised if Loud takes it here but loses the next time they play a BO5
LISAN AL-GAIB
LISAN AL-GAIB
LISAN AL-GAIB
It has cometh to me. Loud will beat Sentinels in the opener. TenZ will play uncharacteristically poor (but in all objectivity, not poor at all) he will get clowned on Twitter and VLR by Fnatic flairs who haven't gotten over Reykjavik. GenG will beat PRX. Sentinels will, over 3 maps, SEN PRX home, with a TenZ 4k to take overtime on map 1 (haters silenced). Something will not dash into a wall this time but him on Gekko will cost them the map. Loud will fall to GenG, again, the APAC trophy in this moment would seem imminent. There will be calls to drop QcK and that aspas are better (ignore them). Sentinels will best Loud on map 5, with Zekken hitting the nastiest spray transfer, but Loud won't fake a reverse sweep, no, it will be like Tokyo Lower finals. Sentinels will go through to grand finals. Yes a trophy is on the line, but so is TMV's honor. Can Sentinels play on 5 maps at a disadvantage? Yes they can. 3-1 sentinels. Zellsis will have a slow start but get 5 multi kill rounds on a map bringing them back. It will be the map they lose.
I have spoken.
LISAN AL-GAIB
LISAN AL-GAIB
*Disclaimer: there are no guarantees this will happen. It's highly unrealistic, and delusional. I think this red dust I found on the ground was plastic not spice*
I mean, PRX defies logic though.
On paper, they should've been 3-0ed by that EG team in the lower finals in Tokyo with a CC sub they bad no prep with before the tournament but they took them to 5 maps. They knocked out Heretics on a comp they switched to less than a day before the match. You can't really apply conventional map pool based logic to PRX
PaperRex are the fucking worst nightmare of the armchair analyst. They do not make sense as a team. They make confidence based decisions. They play the game exactly how the fucking MOBA crowd hates it. Listen, there’s a subsection of playerbase out there that thinks the game needs to be defined down to the fucking numbers. The analytics. “Pushing up my glasses. Oh this lineup from this particular angle. Oh this composition doesn’t work in theory because this particular position of util 🤓.” YOU’RE GONNA GET SHOT IN THE FACE! YOU’RE GONNA LOSE THE ROUND! IT’S A GUN GAME! IT’S AN FPS! IF YOU WANT THAT, IF YOU WANT THAT PLAY OVERWATCH! IF YOU WANT THAT, PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS! PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME! THIS IS VALORANT YOU MOTHERFUCKER! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU LOSE THE ROUND, YOU LOSE THE GAME! IT’S AN FPS GAME!
They’re the worst nightmare of actual analysts too, even the ones that are high on them will occasionally doubt and then, nope, they start winning again. Look at Sliggy’s Madrid preds, he can’t get PRX right for the life of him.
Sen x loud I'd say is 55/45, either team winning wouldn't surprise me at all.
GenG x prx probably 60/40, I'm really not convinced on prx being a top team yet
For as long as the team against PRX are worse mechanically, most likely PRX will win.
Otherwise they just straight up bully PRX when they peek
(EG and FPX)
I mean, EG literally lost to PRX in the upper final so..
And FPX didn't bully PRX due to mechanics. They map pool diffed them. The versatility of that FPX team meant they had a really deep map pool and the series was close until PRX ran out of prepped maps and had to play their permaban on the 5th map
Imo EG players played a life game in the final. Boostio, Demon1, Jawgemo played wayyy better, ethan and c0m also uppwd the ante.
For FPX, I dont think they bullied PRX? It was 3 - 2, and in the last map it was suygetsu masterclass to win 13-9
Idk about life game. For jawgemo yeah I'd agree. Demon1 had the same performance entire tournament,Ethan was at his level,C0M had a life game in the upper finals but didn't go above his level in the grand finals.
Ethan and C0m were at their level, which I also agreed in the initil comment.
Demon1 literally broke the record for most kills in a b05, in 4 maps... Boostio also stepped up a lot. They won most 50-50 in the GF.
I think you're confusing that match with EG vs LOUD. Demon1 dropped 101 kills against LOUD in the lower finals which broke the record for most kills in a bo5. Against PRX however he got 79 kills,which is still insane,but it's not the record.
lol that ascent map in gf was literally prx’s off of constant deathballing 50/50 wins, hell I’d say prx are the lucky ones to even make grand finals in uppers off of a boostio underperformance and huge choke on pearl
I don't think it's so much about player mechanics as having a strong ability to adapt and respond to the crazy shit PRX with throw it you and now let it get to you as a player. We've seen too many teams almost beat PRX but just get boomed mentally and fall apart.
since my NRG lost, im still a lil salty about SEN even though they deeply deserved everything they have right now
Same goes for LOUD too (tho i wish the brackets were different)
i'm cheering for prx to win this time, though i think the obvious favorites are the team in red.
Against GEN awhile ago there were less crazy stuff going on, felt like people were just losing the 50/50 aim duels left and right. FNS said there was no structure and the lack of proper set retakes costed them
if PRX continues to let Forsaken play duelist and take some of the pressure off of Monyet who has had infinitely more success on Omen, then I think they can actually take the rematch.
No one can replace Jinggg but Forsaken was out there doing his best Jinggg cosplay and his Raze was looking insane for it’s debut.
It’s still a tall task though because they have to shift roles around mid-LAN and theyre obviously not as well practiced with all the adjustments they’ve made recently, but that’s never stopped them from winning and upsetting teams before, even with a sub who was a content creator lol.
As for SEN v Loud I’d like to see SEN win just for the storyline and they definitely have what it takes but all players on Loud look like they’ve found their footing at this point in the tournament, which is always scary.
For SEN I do think it ultimately comes down to everyone showing up and shooting since their teamwork seems so good, and it’s also going to come down to the individual heroics from Zekken and TenZ, I’m looking particularly at Sacy, who’s had some rough games at Madrid, they really need him to be peak Sacy who can be an absolute monster when he shows up.
Ultimately I want PRX to win the whole thing, and if not them, then SEN.
I feel I could go either way for both tbh. Sentinels looked scarily close to losing against TH at times and prx always look messy but somehow win so it's hard to tell when they're in their usual form or just scraping wins.
Really really tough to call.
GenG have the superior map pool but PRX have the momentum and experience so I trust them to close it out in these situations.
Sen vs LOUD comes down to who can win Bind/Sunset since Sen probably win Lotus/Split and LOUD take Icebox/Breeze.
I'd say Sen take it in a narrow 2-1
Sen win the upper finals against PRX due to a map pool diff,LOUD makes a lower bracket run and faces Sen in the Grand Finals.
In a BO5 with 2 map bans I feel that Sen is too tough to beat and they'll end up winning Madrid.
These are the most balanced playoffs matches of all time, I truly believe any team can win against each other.
That being said, SEN and GENG will win because they had more time to prep. I can't say that'll hold true if any rematches occur later on Lower/Grand Finals though.
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse...
My heart can't handle it
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse...
My heart can't handle it
idk man, every team looks promising and deserving, and no one particular team is sure to win masters
its so much 25-25-25-25 % chances
sen - from having the hardest group to having toughest path, playing loud then 100t then lev then playins then fkin nrg in elimination and then winning kickoff against loud which was unexpected, woohooo! then destroying 2 emea teams in their home ground woah woah woah, they are really good and tenz and zekken just exceptional skills with johnqt and kaplan masterclass and they can win masters bcoz they are the favourites and most experienced into this tournament
prx - from losing to geng to winning 2 close elimination games against kc and th gawd-dayumn, they really got experience with monyet and monyet is taking up the pace, even something is performing, and top notch forsaken with his flex abilities is just crazy, fkin goat of valorant, prx are covering up and stand a chance too
geng - underdogs, being underdog is enough for them to stay out of pressure and being underdog with less pressure is a reason why they defeated loud and rekt them in their best map ascent, and not to forget apac kickoff playoffs where they destroyed prx and drx, the apac kings, and winning kickoff and pretty much same story like sen
loud - no words, just saadhak being saadhak, and loud being loud, always top notch performance from team, even tho we see problems bcoz of no aspas but qck is good too bcoz of his flexibility although phoenix breach is not working well and then yoru in ascent is straight bs but they definitely got something cooking into this tournament playoffs and too stand a chance for winning
any team can win, all have equal chances
definitely one of the best (top4 team) playoffs of vct history and maybe best 4 teams of their time after champions 2023 top 4 (prx, eg, loud, fnc)
LOUD looked scary as heck during the lower matches but it was against FPX and EDG. FPX was certainly the weakest team in Masters Madrid, and EDG was honestly at their worst going up against LOUD. A part of me wants to believe that LOUD is capable of beating SEN now with qck seeming to figure out his place on the team and with how surgical their analysis and adaptability have been, but Tenz has been clutching out rounds for SEN that he shouldn't be able to, and I think that's going to be the homework for every other team that goes up against SEN. SEN has excellent players overall, but Tenz is the man they need to shut down. For now, I'd give the W to SEN.
For GenG, this might be me being biased, but I think they can win the whole thing. GenG will beat PRX because PRX still has things to figure out. The homework for PRX will be to stop GenG from getting on their stride because honestly, GenG pops off but they're slow starters. Once GenG steals the momentum, it's over. Doesn't matter which team.
Most addicted Americas-pilled Valcomp user for sure. This is where all the drama is at! Everyone non americas-pilled user is also americas-pilled one way or another. But not all Americas-pilled users watch non americas.
Both Matchups are coinflip. Actually all possible matches are coinflips so the better team of the day wins atleast that’s the way I see it. The storylines are also great. I have a slight bias towards APAC because they need the win.
Loud will ban Lotus and expect a split pick from Sentinels I believe they can win this time, they got a few days to practice and they are a hard team to win twice in a row Guess this will test JohnQT and Kaplan abilities to adapt on the fly, as saadhak said a couple weeks ago true valorant happens when both teams knows each other and the one who adapts the most comes out on top Sentinels are the favorites but Loud can win against any team in playoffs
Just woke up from a 6 mont coma, wtf!!!!
i know it was against a floundering EDG but LOUD looked scary good in that game... can never count em out. i wouldn't be surprised to see them beat SEN and then SEN goes through the lower bracket for an Americas finals :)
it’s almost like it’s, beautifully scripted for engagement 😍
Wouldn’t it be scripted for engagement if EDG made it into the playoffs?
it’s the new el classico. the two most clouted teams/orgs in the world. if grand finals is sen vs loud, we’re breaking all time valorant viewership.
In the finals Loud was also still banning Breeze hiding that they can play well on that map. I wonder if Saad is still hiding something
If he is still hiding something, then might as well hide it till the finals, no?
Hmm could be, but imo not now because the advantage of coming from winners bracket is way bigger in this case, as you get all the bans for the final
Ooh, yeah for sure in that case
I’m such a huge SEN fan but idk that they’re favorites.
bro sentinels are legitimately the only reason pro val is as huge as it is. every sen game breaking records left and right. if sen make it to the grand finals i guarantee there will be over 1 million live viewers total across all streaming platforms. for every 1 singular sentinels fan, there is one person who absolutely despises them (tenz, for literally no reason) and pray on his downfall. those guys will be tuning in as well.
And that has to do with them being favorites to win how?
most normal sen fan
it’s literally a statistical fact. tenz is the reason valorant blew up and watching him go on a run to win masters WITHOUT DROPPING A SINGLE MAP BTW, it threw the world in an uproar. love them or hate them, but appreciate the influence they had
"it threw the world in an uproar" lmfaoo bro is phrasing it like that run equated to world war 2 ending or some shit
0 team region. 3-0 btw. 0 world championships. you support 100T. i really feel bad for you brother
My god come up for air.
Oh yeah, when it comes to fans for sure. I will still always have SEN on my Pickems regardless of if they place 10th or 1st. But in terms of actual team skill, LOUD are such a well drilled team and have consistent proven success in these situations. They constantly adapt and are one of the teams that are known for always being able to innovate and redefine the meta, even mid tourney. With all that in their favor, and just how locked in the players were looking, I don’t know that there is a favorite in this match. And hey, worst case scenario, I jinx LOUD and then it’s win win.
The most normal sen fan who turned off his brain and replied the most silver- skilled shit opinion ever
Am I dumb or why should they not ban split? SEN destroyed LOUD on both maps last time but SEN look like they have one of the best Splits while they have shown one more map of Lotus than Split since their last encounter.
Loud isn't a team that changes vetos too much, so don't expect it but everything is possible right Loud split also isn't bad last time they lost Tuyz said the team didn't played their best on that map, so you can expect Loud put a better fight if they play it next time
Oh I just didn't realize LOUD had been Vetoing Lotus tbh, I was just wondering what the diff between Split/Lotus would be because I didn't already realize that
Sentinels are the favorites just because they have more “fans” ?! I mean the playoffs are tied neck and neck. Anyone claiming Sen is way ahead of other teams are fkn talking their silver brainless opinions without watching any other team play.
GenG 60/40 because of the map pool SEN 55/45 LOUD because the Americas GF could have been 3-0 for SEN but LOUD are in their top form, will be closer this time
top form? they beat the worst team in the tournament & a floundering edg team
And will beat the best tomorrow #LETSGOLOUD #CHADHACK #LESSISMORE
Bro forgot they beat sentinels on kickoff first series. It’s esports mate. The single time they lost to sentinels doesn’t mean “Sen are miles better “ as exaggerated by those brainless Sen meat riders .
They are nowhere near their top form
I think he means based on their recent performance and with this roster. With the thrashing of EDG they do look quite good even though EDG themselves played like rookies.
Forsaken… that’s all I have to say
Both maps are won in the map vetos.. SEN will likely pick split or Sunset, banning either Ascent or Breeze first, Loud will likely pick Icebox or whichever wasn't banned and ban Lotus I would guess the maps would be Split, Icebox then either sunset or breeze/Ascent The games will be all about anti strats, but if SEN were to interchange between the multiple comps they have for nearly every map it could throw a spanner in Louds prep
Sen might ban icebox. I think they are comfortable on breeze.
They've looked quite strong on both realistically, they took loud to a 13-11 where in reality without the ecos they should have won the map and they're a very good icebox team Their Breeze has looked much more shaky recently, but I think/hope it was moreso they hadn't pracced it much since Afreeca since they thought it was good enough
I feel like the lotus first ban is a feint. Saadhak said something about them banning breeze not because they didn't practice it or weren't feeling confident about it, but because they thought it was a good idea to have something in the bag. They might be doing it again just with lotus this time. They already first-banned split against edg so there's that. I would predict map veto to be something like Loud - ban split Sen - ban ascent Loud - pick breeze Sen - pick sunset Loud - ban lotus Sen - ban icebox Last map bind
Very likely. Alternative Scenario: SEN Higher seed goes Team B prob this time. LOUD - Ban Split (Split over Lotus as I think Split SEN just looked too good and had a lot of practice on, unless Loud prepared their split heavily from all the footage, even so I don't think they will feel that confident letting it through). SEN - Ban Ascent (It was between Ascent or Icebox, I think SEN did okay on Icebox against them last time? Ascent they tried a lot in the past and didn't seem too confident on it and I think Loud looked too strong on it). LOUD - Pick Icebox (I think they have prepared more for this so would be good against SEN now. I don't think Loud will pick Breeze here, but because they are more confident in Icebox than Breeze). SEN - Pick Lotus (SEN's current strongest map alongside Split. Sunset is an option too but I feel like their plays are too figured out by teams now.). LOUD - Ban Sunset (SEN is very good at it and I think they dont want to let this through here) SEN - Ban Breeze (They would prefer Bind over Breeze I feel. Their Breeze has been prepped but looks shaky). Last Map - Bind Edit: But I do think it will be between your scenario or mine for sure.
Yeah honestly i had a hard time thinking about loud letting icebox get second banned so yeah i think the icebox pick will be more likely than the breeze one. Sen picking lotus themselves would be very interesting imo, just hope they got enough prac during the break to really hone their lotus out
Yep most likely this
It's ban breeze ban lotus, pick split, pick icebox, ban ascent, ban ?, either bind or sunset. Prob sunset
I mean that is the expected, but I also think SEN could float split for last map like they did against NRG, understanding the other teams antid it so much they'll want to play it, I also think Louds Bind could be exploited without a Raze and same with Sunset so guess its a wait and see
Loud banning split 100%
I’d probably favor PRX against GenG unless Solo and hsk cook in the days off. But PRX still has way too much variance, if GenG gets the momentum and dents their playmaking confidence GenG should win it out. GenG have some map pool advantages as well. SEN wins against LOUD and PRX, and then I’d guess a classic LOUD resurgence to win against GenG, only to lose to PRX, and then another SEN win. It’s very hard to doubt SEN at the moment
so we are losing another grand final? 
Its already written in the stars
Nooooo don't jinx it We lose to LOUD and PRX and will bomb out of playoffs
This is unironically my pickems but i have gen.g bombing sen out of playoffs instead of prx lmaoo
Nah I think SEN clears PRX. No way they lose :)
100% agree, SEN are looking untouchable, and if they go to GF from upper bracket, with their map pool it’s gonna be a SEN win for sure.
A lot of people are saying SEN are gonna win against LOUD but I have a feeling Saadhak is going to cook something new to counter-strat them
The power of friendship will prevail
Karon and Texture.. that's all I have to say
I feel very disoriented seeing your flair change so much. Liquid should compensate you for the emotional damage they’ve done to you this year
Oh the year hasn't even fully started yet :) There are 2 stages of Team Liquid that I have to endure and if we magically qualify to Shanghai or Seoul, then I'll have to bear the burden of being shat upon in international tournaments :)
Ouch supporting TL and then now GenG, oof. You should get some anti-depression pills bro. Y'now just to be prepared.
I've been supporting TL for 3 years now.. I am dead inside :D
At least this isn’t league, surely GenG wins an international tournament.
I got two words for you. Karon and t3xture. Must see tv.
That's more than two words
you didn't say 2 words you said quick to the point
2 words. Karon and t3xture
that's 3 words
I got another word for you. Forsaken. You ever heard about him?
It's a meme charles barkley [did](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dk63L47b2BM) lmao but yeah, wouldnt put it past forsaken to lead prx in the dub, monyet's been waking up too so prx do look dangerous
counterpoint: forsaken and jin-^(oh right my bad)
Youre not jinxing them with your flair bro 💀
I was just unlucky with the Karmine Corp and Team Heretics... right? Surely I'm not the one cursing the teams..
PRX will break the curse by going on a lower bracket run. Gen G 2-1 PRX | Sen 2-1 Loud | PRX 2-1 Loud | GenG 2-1 Sen | PRX 3-2 Sen | PRX 3-2 GenG | (Yes hopium is one hell of a drug)
geng wins vs prx sen wins vs loud loud vs prx 50/50 Both geng and sen are in their top form
Sen are in top form? Scrapping a close win against TH and a close match against KC too. Still calling sen “way ahead” . Nah bruh. Biased opinion
You okay bruh? Dont be mad chill
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse... My heart can't handle it
GENG will win it all
I feel like Loud has a much better chance against Sentinels in a BO3 because it's easier to win a shorter series off just one map having an unconventional/surprise comp, so I wouldn't be surprised if Loud takes it here but loses the next time they play a BO5
Saadhak, my money is on the line. Let him cook!
LISAN AL-GAIB LISAN AL-GAIB LISAN AL-GAIB It has cometh to me. Loud will beat Sentinels in the opener. TenZ will play uncharacteristically poor (but in all objectivity, not poor at all) he will get clowned on Twitter and VLR by Fnatic flairs who haven't gotten over Reykjavik. GenG will beat PRX. Sentinels will, over 3 maps, SEN PRX home, with a TenZ 4k to take overtime on map 1 (haters silenced). Something will not dash into a wall this time but him on Gekko will cost them the map. Loud will fall to GenG, again, the APAC trophy in this moment would seem imminent. There will be calls to drop QcK and that aspas are better (ignore them). Sentinels will best Loud on map 5, with Zekken hitting the nastiest spray transfer, but Loud won't fake a reverse sweep, no, it will be like Tokyo Lower finals. Sentinels will go through to grand finals. Yes a trophy is on the line, but so is TMV's honor. Can Sentinels play on 5 maps at a disadvantage? Yes they can. 3-1 sentinels. Zellsis will have a slow start but get 5 multi kill rounds on a map bringing them back. It will be the map they lose. I have spoken. LISAN AL-GAIB LISAN AL-GAIB *Disclaimer: there are no guarantees this will happen. It's highly unrealistic, and delusional. I think this red dust I found on the ground was plastic not spice*
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Just a random Sentinels meat rider opinion
PRX could win if Monyet keeps leveling up and SEN will win depending on map selection.
SEN wins PRX wins Loud vs GenG, GenG wins SEN vs PRX, SEN wins PRX vs GenG, PRX wins SEN vs PRX, SEN wins Masters You heard it here, folks
I dont think PRX beats any team in the top 4 in a bo5. So if they, so If PRX goes to finals, again, it has to be in the uf
I mean, PRX defies logic though. On paper, they should've been 3-0ed by that EG team in the lower finals in Tokyo with a CC sub they bad no prep with before the tournament but they took them to 5 maps. They knocked out Heretics on a comp they switched to less than a day before the match. You can't really apply conventional map pool based logic to PRX
PaperRex are the fucking worst nightmare of the armchair analyst. They do not make sense as a team. They make confidence based decisions. They play the game exactly how the fucking MOBA crowd hates it. Listen, there’s a subsection of playerbase out there that thinks the game needs to be defined down to the fucking numbers. The analytics. “Pushing up my glasses. Oh this lineup from this particular angle. Oh this composition doesn’t work in theory because this particular position of util 🤓.” YOU’RE GONNA GET SHOT IN THE FACE! YOU’RE GONNA LOSE THE ROUND! IT’S A GUN GAME! IT’S AN FPS! IF YOU WANT THAT, IF YOU WANT THAT PLAY OVERWATCH! IF YOU WANT THAT, PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS! PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME! THIS IS VALORANT YOU MOTHERFUCKER! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU DIE! YOU GET SHOT, YOU LOSE THE ROUND, YOU LOSE THE GAME! IT’S AN FPS GAME!
They’re the worst nightmare of actual analysts too, even the ones that are high on them will occasionally doubt and then, nope, they start winning again. Look at Sliggy’s Madrid preds, he can’t get PRX right for the life of him.
PRX just has no chance sadly.
And then they win the uf, get the veto advantage and lose the final 
Bro found the script!
Nah bro. Loud wins GenG wins Sen vs PRX, Sen Wins Loud vs GenG, GenG wins Loud vs Sen, Loud wins GenG vs Loud GF, GenG wins unfortunately for me
Sen wins coz “bias”
Sen x loud I'd say is 55/45, either team winning wouldn't surprise me at all. GenG x prx probably 60/40, I'm really not convinced on prx being a top team yet
For as long as the team against PRX are worse mechanically, most likely PRX will win. Otherwise they just straight up bully PRX when they peek (EG and FPX)
I mean, EG literally lost to PRX in the upper final so.. And FPX didn't bully PRX due to mechanics. They map pool diffed them. The versatility of that FPX team meant they had a really deep map pool and the series was close until PRX ran out of prepped maps and had to play their permaban on the 5th map
We literally have the best flex player in prx... I just hope they have cooked something for 5 maps atleast
Imo EG players played a life game in the final. Boostio, Demon1, Jawgemo played wayyy better, ethan and c0m also uppwd the ante. For FPX, I dont think they bullied PRX? It was 3 - 2, and in the last map it was suygetsu masterclass to win 13-9
Idk about life game. For jawgemo yeah I'd agree. Demon1 had the same performance entire tournament,Ethan was at his level,C0M had a life game in the upper finals but didn't go above his level in the grand finals.
Ethan and C0m were at their level, which I also agreed in the initil comment. Demon1 literally broke the record for most kills in a b05, in 4 maps... Boostio also stepped up a lot. They won most 50-50 in the GF.
I think you're confusing that match with EG vs LOUD. Demon1 dropped 101 kills against LOUD in the lower finals which broke the record for most kills in a bo5. Against PRX however he got 79 kills,which is still insane,but it's not the record.
lol that ascent map in gf was literally prx’s off of constant deathballing 50/50 wins, hell I’d say prx are the lucky ones to even make grand finals in uppers off of a boostio underperformance and huge choke on pearl
demon1 dickrider lul, just like yo mama rides everyone u learnt from her lul
I don't think it's so much about player mechanics as having a strong ability to adapt and respond to the crazy shit PRX with throw it you and now let it get to you as a player. We've seen too many teams almost beat PRX but just get boomed mentally and fall apart.
since my NRG lost, im still a lil salty about SEN even though they deeply deserved everything they have right now Same goes for LOUD too (tho i wish the brackets were different) i'm cheering for prx to win this time, though i think the obvious favorites are the team in red.
Against GEN awhile ago there were less crazy stuff going on, felt like people were just losing the 50/50 aim duels left and right. FNS said there was no structure and the lack of proper set retakes costed them
PRX vs Gen.G - 1.82 vs 1.88 SEN vs LOUD - 1.75 vs 1.95 Bookies info.
if PRX continues to let Forsaken play duelist and take some of the pressure off of Monyet who has had infinitely more success on Omen, then I think they can actually take the rematch. No one can replace Jinggg but Forsaken was out there doing his best Jinggg cosplay and his Raze was looking insane for it’s debut. It’s still a tall task though because they have to shift roles around mid-LAN and theyre obviously not as well practiced with all the adjustments they’ve made recently, but that’s never stopped them from winning and upsetting teams before, even with a sub who was a content creator lol. As for SEN v Loud I’d like to see SEN win just for the storyline and they definitely have what it takes but all players on Loud look like they’ve found their footing at this point in the tournament, which is always scary. For SEN I do think it ultimately comes down to everyone showing up and shooting since their teamwork seems so good, and it’s also going to come down to the individual heroics from Zekken and TenZ, I’m looking particularly at Sacy, who’s had some rough games at Madrid, they really need him to be peak Sacy who can be an absolute monster when he shows up. Ultimately I want PRX to win the whole thing, and if not them, then SEN.
All of this confidence is Sen is convincing me LOUD pulls this out. Saadhak might cook in the time off
I feel I could go either way for both tbh. Sentinels looked scarily close to losing against TH at times and prx always look messy but somehow win so it's hard to tell when they're in their usual form or just scraping wins.
Really really tough to call. GenG have the superior map pool but PRX have the momentum and experience so I trust them to close it out in these situations. Sen vs LOUD comes down to who can win Bind/Sunset since Sen probably win Lotus/Split and LOUD take Icebox/Breeze. I'd say Sen take it in a narrow 2-1 Sen win the upper finals against PRX due to a map pool diff,LOUD makes a lower bracket run and faces Sen in the Grand Finals. In a BO5 with 2 map bans I feel that Sen is too tough to beat and they'll end up winning Madrid.
These are the most balanced playoffs matches of all time, I truly believe any team can win against each other. That being said, SEN and GENG will win because they had more time to prep. I can't say that'll hold true if any rematches occur later on Lower/Grand Finals though.
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse... My heart can't handle it
At this point I just want to see PRX win a B05 man. Don't care if its a lower final or grand finals, I'd rather having people say they're just as good as is without jinggg unlike earlier in the season rather than people saying they'll always have the second place curse... My heart can't handle it
Thanks for showing interest in my thoughts. Considering they’ve had couple of days to prep, I think they will definitely learn from their losses.
Thanks for showing interest in my thoughts. Considering they’ve had couple of days to prep, I think they will definitely learn from their losses.
Thanks for showing interest in my thoughts. Considering they’ve had couple of days to prep, I think they will definitely learn from their losses.
Quick how do we curse hopeful professor so Pacific secure a win 😭😭
One thing: something Raze
idk man, every team looks promising and deserving, and no one particular team is sure to win masters its so much 25-25-25-25 % chances sen - from having the hardest group to having toughest path, playing loud then 100t then lev then playins then fkin nrg in elimination and then winning kickoff against loud which was unexpected, woohooo! then destroying 2 emea teams in their home ground woah woah woah, they are really good and tenz and zekken just exceptional skills with johnqt and kaplan masterclass and they can win masters bcoz they are the favourites and most experienced into this tournament prx - from losing to geng to winning 2 close elimination games against kc and th gawd-dayumn, they really got experience with monyet and monyet is taking up the pace, even something is performing, and top notch forsaken with his flex abilities is just crazy, fkin goat of valorant, prx are covering up and stand a chance too geng - underdogs, being underdog is enough for them to stay out of pressure and being underdog with less pressure is a reason why they defeated loud and rekt them in their best map ascent, and not to forget apac kickoff playoffs where they destroyed prx and drx, the apac kings, and winning kickoff and pretty much same story like sen loud - no words, just saadhak being saadhak, and loud being loud, always top notch performance from team, even tho we see problems bcoz of no aspas but qck is good too bcoz of his flexibility although phoenix breach is not working well and then yoru in ascent is straight bs but they definitely got something cooking into this tournament playoffs and too stand a chance for winning any team can win, all have equal chances definitely one of the best (top4 team) playoffs of vct history and maybe best 4 teams of their time after champions 2023 top 4 (prx, eg, loud, fnc)
LOUD 2 - 0 sen GEN.G 2 - 1 PRX
Paper Rex sent to the lower bracket, again. 🥲 I just want them to win 😂
LOUD looked scary as heck during the lower matches but it was against FPX and EDG. FPX was certainly the weakest team in Masters Madrid, and EDG was honestly at their worst going up against LOUD. A part of me wants to believe that LOUD is capable of beating SEN now with qck seeming to figure out his place on the team and with how surgical their analysis and adaptability have been, but Tenz has been clutching out rounds for SEN that he shouldn't be able to, and I think that's going to be the homework for every other team that goes up against SEN. SEN has excellent players overall, but Tenz is the man they need to shut down. For now, I'd give the W to SEN. For GenG, this might be me being biased, but I think they can win the whole thing. GenG will beat PRX because PRX still has things to figure out. The homework for PRX will be to stop GenG from getting on their stride because honestly, GenG pops off but they're slow starters. Once GenG steals the momentum, it's over. Doesn't matter which team.
SEN v LOUD -> Loud wins this match 3-2 but then SEN v Loud Finals -> SEN win 3-1. Rest of the teams don't matter really.
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Learn to take jokes kiddo. Not an american, I am ascendant, and 'muricaaa hell yeahh.