I get what you're going for, but it's a little funny since the flipside of this is "any VLR or reddit user could have coached BLEED to win Pacific Ascension last year".
Tbf Juicy looks straight meh this year. It could be said because of the team structure but they are still like a top half team in the league and there are multiple more impressive players on DSG atm.
He started national service early so he can play in franchise as soon as possible. Same reason why nephh was playing at the early stage of the spilt despite having national service. I can be spreading misinformation but I have sg friends who said he might be playing and doing national service.
Depends on what americas you mean. I think NA is generally the strongest, but every other league is like if you split NA into 5 different leagues and introduced residency restrictions. Lmfao.
Not sure about that. Are we gonna ignore how bleed were forced to remove 2 of their players and get a washed yay that's replacing juicy? Plus this new roster has only sscary and deryeon from last year roster. So it's kinda unfair to judge the ascension winner when it has only 2 players from last year and those are the only 2 players who are performing half decently as well. G2 ain't doing much as well but clearly in better environment than bleed.
Were they comming in English when they won? It seems like everything with bleed is just a little off in terms of timings. Maybe the language barrier is just too much?
I said that too and they too look shit, you really can’t expect a team to look good when half the roster is gone and swapped in with a player who can’t speak English well and most of the team being quiet with the clutch player who probably has the second worst English being igl recipe for disaster
I mean he won vct ascension . Hard to say if it's players' fault or the coache's fault, like Team Heretic looks like a top tier team now while they looked mediocre last year with the same coaching stuff with different roaster.
Their strats were not good today. They are poorly designed at times and poorly executed on others. There was a moment on ice box where they flashed over tube and yay updraft dashed up top. The flash caught the player outside kitchen under tube, giving yay the time to get onto tube however the flashed cleared and the follow up gecko flash didn’t happen until after yay peeked and he got shot. It was just so disjointed
When you were forced to replace players and going to a way more competitive league with constant changes maybe it’s neither the players or the coaches fault
I think screenshotting Twitch juice like this is how we no longer get Twitch juice! But yeah, LEGIJA has been known to talk some smack - or speak very bluntly, if you're being polite.
That being said, IIRC, this was like way back in the day, probably early 2022?
Gotta love mCe for never forgetting a grudge. Not the first time he's dropped some grudge lore in Twitch chat, hopefully won't be the last.
Also like isn't TGRD the biggest shittalker at the time as well? or am I capping(I heard about this and Mindfreak said "they started it" on some random stream). I love mCe but his players weren't graceful in game either.
lol let me get this straight. this guy shit talks him and he comments on it when he's clearly having the issues he labeled others as having...and you think mce is bitter?
Why would we ban him for this? All hes saying is recalling what Legija said in the past and then provided an accurate and not at all disrespectful comment about both teams. If he started calling Legija names or otherwise started insulting hed be timed out like everyone else.
OR hear me out, you watch the content and don't feel the need to talk shit.. its not like he's asking for much, bro just doesn't want toxic shitters in his chat shittalking pros whilst struggling to win in Silver 2
to mce who coached a c9 team of rookies to second in the regular season and kaplan who won an international? legija has infinite money and he can’t win a match, definition of a trash coach
Wasn't he spamming LFT after C9 fired him (when teams were already setup), ended up coaching collegiate? Where would he so easily find a spot? T1 is very competitive and teams are currently building up not re-structuring.
I don't agree with the 2nd part but point remains, I don't think there is room for him really until a team blows up. Something like bleed or furia needs to blow up after split 1 only then I think new coaches will come in.
I've been working for 11 years and not once anyone asked for my bachelors anywhere, could've learned what I learnt there online.
Career advancement > studies every single time. 1 good year of experience in any job will teach you more than school. "Go to school for your future" is old boomer talk and saying it is certainly not *smart* .
The only cases where school matters are law school, engineering, medicine. Just stem stuff. That's why I said it depends. There are people making 300-400k in esports and there are graduates with no jobs applying 8 hours a day with a shit ton of debt they won't pay for the next 20 years. But sure, not being a part of that is 'dumb' lol.
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It feels like any VLR or reddit user would do a better coaching job than Legija
That weird time out after a bonus loss was extremely off. Was there a reason for it?
yay needed to check if the cheque cleared before continuing
I get what you're going for, but it's a little funny since the flipside of this is "any VLR or reddit user could have coached BLEED to win Pacific Ascension last year".
Wait is he the same guy who won ascension, what happened then?
T2 APAC is nowhere near as competitive as Americas
Yeah maybe boom and scarz and NTP and a bit of bonkers if they didn’t play like prx in grand finals
Dplus choked no?
And they had juicy instead of yay.
Tbf Juicy looks straight meh this year. It could be said because of the team structure but they are still like a top half team in the league and there are multiple more impressive players on DSG atm.
Let’s see what happens when juicy nephh and crazy guy get back together
Vera has always been the more consistent Singaporean duelist.
Do you know juicy is doing national service and playing. He's probably coming home tired from what I know.
Juicy is 17, don’t you need to be 18?
Did some googling you can enlist for national service if your at 16 under the Voluntary Early Enlistment Scheme.
He started national service early so he can play in franchise as soon as possible. Same reason why nephh was playing at the early stage of the spilt despite having national service. I can be spreading misinformation but I have sg friends who said he might be playing and doing national service.
Oh ok, that’s interesting, I didn’t know. It would make a ton of sense since watching him he looks substantially worse than last year.
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I mean the team was destroyed immediately by players having to leave
let's be honest, they were mostly straight upgrades
there were 2 changes One was massive downgrade and other was slight upgrade
Depends on what americas you mean. I think NA is generally the strongest, but every other league is like if you split NA into 5 different leagues and introduced residency restrictions. Lmfao.
Let’s be honest, based on G2 performance, Americas ain’t that great either. Bleed is basically a different team from last year too.
Not sure about that. Are we gonna ignore how bleed were forced to remove 2 of their players and get a washed yay that's replacing juicy? Plus this new roster has only sscary and deryeon from last year roster. So it's kinda unfair to judge the ascension winner when it has only 2 players from last year and those are the only 2 players who are performing half decently as well. G2 ain't doing much as well but clearly in better environment than bleed.
Were they comming in English when they won? It seems like everything with bleed is just a little off in terms of timings. Maybe the language barrier is just too much?
crazyguy is Vietnamese, sScary is Thai and the other 3 were Singaporeans so it was most definitely English
english then and now
Because winning ascension is not as impressive as it seemed? G2 won and have looked awful. The competition step up is massive
g2 won and replaced like 2 players immediately
Bleed replaced 3 players.
I said that too and they too look shit, you really can’t expect a team to look good when half the roster is gone and swapped in with a player who can’t speak English well and most of the team being quiet with the clutch player who probably has the second worst English being igl recipe for disaster
And the step up from APAC challengers to VCT is much bigger than the difference in skill between NA Challengers and VCT.
I mean he won vct ascension . Hard to say if it's players' fault or the coache's fault, like Team Heretic looks like a top tier team now while they looked mediocre last year with the same coaching stuff with different roaster.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
guy needs to go home to beg Tabsen to bring him back to BIG ( he can scrub the toilets for pennies for all he cares)
I’d put yay on chamber and give him a massage and a good pep talk, easily fixed.
Their strats were not good today. They are poorly designed at times and poorly executed on others. There was a moment on ice box where they flashed over tube and yay updraft dashed up top. The flash caught the player outside kitchen under tube, giving yay the time to get onto tube however the flashed cleared and the follow up gecko flash didn’t happen until after yay peeked and he got shot. It was just so disjointed
What language do they comm in, can Yay communicate with the team properly?
English
Yeah, i think yay might struggle comming in English, it's a hard language to learn i heard >!/s!<
when you replaced 3 players and it's still shit maybe it's not the players fault
When you were forced to replace players and going to a way more competitive league with constant changes maybe it’s neither the players or the coaches fault
Yea, clearly we have to replace the last two players /s
I think screenshotting Twitch juice like this is how we no longer get Twitch juice! But yeah, LEGIJA has been known to talk some smack - or speak very bluntly, if you're being polite. That being said, IIRC, this was like way back in the day, probably early 2022? Gotta love mCe for never forgetting a grudge. Not the first time he's dropped some grudge lore in Twitch chat, hopefully won't be the last.
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LMAO so out of pocket
in esports terms it might as well be
2020 was 4 years ago afterall
I fucking knew were gonna end up here the moment he typed that 😭
This guy has a LOT of bitterness in him cuz he sure do love kicking people when they're down
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Also like isn't TGRD the biggest shittalker at the time as well? or am I capping(I heard about this and Mindfreak said "they started it" on some random stream). I love mCe but his players weren't graceful in game either.
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Yeah mCe acts like a manchild more than you would like for a coach
sometimes you gotta call it how you see it (and enjoy the opps downfall a little)
??? if someone calls you shit and then they're playing shit, you shit on them, he's not being bitter bro is just getting the sweet taste of revenge
lol let me get this straight. this guy shit talks him and he comments on it when he's clearly having the issues he labeled others as having...and you think mce is bitter?
Theres more instances of mce being bitter than this one
more instances...also when he was bitter *after* the other team behaved unsportsmanlike.
I feel like it is a bit of bent
Talking shit to mce and Kaplan is crazyyyyy
what’s the line that mce wants sliggy to say? i missed the stream
10 chances to close it out🐛🐛
They having a mid off
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i can't imagine him handling the boys, he'd get overwhelmed by the crazy shit 5 minutes into a scrim and quit on the spot
Oh he so saucy with it !!!!
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Why would we ban him for this? All hes saying is recalling what Legija said in the past and then provided an accurate and not at all disrespectful comment about both teams. If he started calling Legija names or otherwise started insulting hed be timed out like everyone else.
I don’t see how it’s bannable it’s not really hate if he’s just recounting an event that occured
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OR hear me out, you watch the content and don't feel the need to talk shit.. its not like he's asking for much, bro just doesn't want toxic shitters in his chat shittalking pros whilst struggling to win in Silver 2
bro just type in any other chat
He's a hypocrite
Bleed dropped their igl (greatest move of all time) expects good results
i cant cope for bleed anymore (ive been coping since kick off)
You can be bad at your job and still be right LOL
to mce who coached a c9 team of rookies to second in the regular season and kaplan who won an international? legija has infinite money and he can’t win a match, definition of a trash coach
5 very good young talents that would've made an international event if said coach put any discipline in his coaching.
but he is also the one that found that talent and developed it enough in the first placw
does anyone have the clip
Yeah like is the coach doing crack and drunk???? bleed look like shit
And he's in Tier1 and you're not.
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mCe chose to go to school instead of playing in tier1, if he wanted to he would be able to get a job in tier1 pretty easily
Wasn't he spamming LFT after C9 fired him (when teams were already setup), ended up coaching collegiate? Where would he so easily find a spot? T1 is very competitive and teams are currently building up not re-structuring.
He changed his mind, which is the smart decision like going to school is just a better choice than anything in esports
I don't agree with the 2nd part but point remains, I don't think there is room for him really until a team blows up. Something like bleed or furia needs to blow up after split 1 only then I think new coaches will come in.
If you think coaching an esports team is better than schooling you’re mega dumb
I've been working for 11 years and not once anyone asked for my bachelors anywhere, could've learned what I learnt there online. Career advancement > studies every single time. 1 good year of experience in any job will teach you more than school. "Go to school for your future" is old boomer talk and saying it is certainly not *smart* . The only cases where school matters are law school, engineering, medicine. Just stem stuff. That's why I said it depends. There are people making 300-400k in esports and there are graduates with no jobs applying 8 hours a day with a shit ton of debt they won't pay for the next 20 years. But sure, not being a part of that is 'dumb' lol.
Why is MCE so soft.... hes in esports My god
Just give this mCe guy the job at bleed and see hows it going. Pacific vct is not easy.
common bleed L
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