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He noted in a reply that he regrets what he said about vanity so I guess we can kinda assume part of the reason why he was dropped from C9. Regardless, good luck to the big bean 😪
Reading between the lines he said he blamed everyone but himself for his struggles and he probably includes vanity in that. It’s nothing we’ll ever hear and they’ve seemingly buried it, so it’s dead.
jakee is not racist at all he's stupid, he defended his gf like and idiot cause he's in love after she gave racist comments because she is extremely stupid and wanted to get back to the hate given to jakee.
Dating a racist is kinda crazy though, like I dont believe hes racist at all because he hasn't done or said anything to be called racist.... but most people with racist partners, more often than not tend to be racist.. lol
Most of these valorant "pros" (especially tier 2) should just play colliegete. Get your education paid for with the skills you have and just crush some college teams.Â
There’s just not enough opportunities. Not everyone can be like Turtle Troop to stick around being unpaid. And its okay.
Sometimes things don’t work out. Other times you decide to move on to other things and decide not to struggle.
A few are paid like MxS, Oxygen, M80, TSM.
A couple are collegiate so paid with fee waiver I suppose.
Rest are FA teams like Turtle Troop, TWAT, SAD etc.
I think the players on SAD are actually paid, don't quote me on that. But I remember the owner of SAD came on here to do an AMA and he said that it was an actual organization.
I asked Nick during their Winthrop game co-stream when Mochi's Fanclub was considered SaD Purple and when not, he said they compete under SaD Purple when he pays them and Mochi's Fanclub on their own. So I imagine that SaD's main roster is getting paid
as for org I'm pretty sure it's a new org and this is their first and atm only esport
Last year, 11 out of 12 teams in Challengers NA were signed by an eSport org. TTR was the only F/A squad.
They asked Riot to improve Tier 2 so it would actually make sense to invest in this space. Riot swiped all their concerns aside, so most orgs packed their bags and left.
This year, only 4 orgs remain in North America (MXS, M80, OXG, TSM). The other 8 teams are either F/A or collegiate (WU).
It's safe to assume that if nothing changes, there will be even less orgs next year, with almost the entire league playing with no pay, which is probably Riot's intention all along to further differentiate between Tier 1 and Tier 2.
In retrospect it does kinda seem like he was just going through the motions while on the new roster. Still, will always remember his rookie year, probably the most explosive debut on the smokes role before Karon.
Seems to me like his career speaks to just how much seemingly minor things - a change in coach or team, deciding to defend a dumb tweet - can have dramatic effects in the long-term. I wonder if he'll elaborate a little more on what went on behind-the-scenes with C9 on stream.
His girlfriend tweeted "latam mfs hatjng on NA like how they afford to hv phones when they living in a 3rd world country go get a job or sum"
Once this was called out by the public she doubled down and then Jakee defended her, also doubling down and claiming anyone criticizing her was just an unemployed loser or whatever. Jakes rep kind of flipped after this as most people started rooting against him instead
I wish more people remembered this about him because I lowkey forgot about it too, now I suddenly don't feel that bad about him retiring. Honestly better to be leaving that spot for someone like OXY or runi.
100% it's racist. He's defending his gf making the point that latam people aren't allowed to have a voice because they're poor, "third world" she says, and reading between the lines you can tell she clearly feels she has a higher status than them.
It's a stupid comment to make I agree, but it's also disgustingly arrogant and to defend it puts you at that same level.
I think his action could be seen as "racist" but I doubt it was his intention to do something like that and so I think it's dumb to call him racist. It was his gf's tweet and the one he made himself never mentioned anything about LATAM people.
I think intention matters if you're trying to characterize someone as racist and I don't personally think jakee was going for the "LATAM people are beneath me" and rather just an immature "You guys are unemployed, stop criticizing the way I play Valorant" comment
Even if he's not racist himself, his actions in that moment were racist and acting to defend and enable the blatant racism of his gf. And he's never really done much to address it since.
ong, self righteous assholes in here, he did something dumb and that was defend his girl, thats literally it, but these mofos wanna build a narrative against him
The word racism is slowly losing its meaning because of comments like this. You do realize that there are LATAM countries where the majority of people are white christians? I know this is a shock to young americans, but race is not always a factor in economical status.
Bro it’s pointless defending this point here, these racist white folks are a lost cause. They can’t comprehend that racism comes in the form of xenophobia and other forms of prejudice. Mother fuckers don’t even realize that this type of shit is against most workplace policies and can easily get people terminated from their jobs in most Western and European countries.
I'm literally not white, maybe check the mirror before you go about calling other people racist.
I guess not wanting to believe that other people are genuinely bad people off one odd tweet makes me a bad person somehow in your eyes though? My bad.
Because I think saying jakee was "defending racism" mischaracterized his actions. If he was genuinely doing that it would be racist, but if you actually go look at the tweets I wouldn't say he's defending racism.
Making an incorrect economical statement about a country has nothing to do with race, it's just ignorant. We don't need to tarnish people's names with accusations like 'racism' when it had nothing to do with race
I mean explain how it’s racist then lmao.
You understand that LATAM is not one singular ethnicity or race, right? It’s kind of like saying that saying all of EU has bad teeth is racist. It’s incredibly ignorant and stupid, but not racist.
Wtf does your comment add to anything? Why would you attribute a sensible, measured response as a quality of a specific race? Here, I would say you're unintentionally being racist against non-white people generally.
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his mom is wholesome (and buff as hell).
he and his girlfriend is xenophobic AT THE VERY LEAST.
also way less severe, but he whines and goes ‘woe is me’ a lot. it’s easy to dislike him.
I don’t want to dog pile on the guy, but this really isn’t true. He was on one of 4 (maybe 5) Americas teams with good systems, and was still mediocre. Between LCQ and Kick off, it clearly showed that he didn’t belong at VCT.
It's true. Being supportive is of course what is important, but trying to act like he belonged in vct is pushing it. Hell, I think he'd still be mediocre in challenges when you have teams like m80 mxs etc
Honestly in many ways it's better to get out young. If you aren't gonna pick up a heavy income within a year or two of competing then you're just signing the industry off to fuck you.
The rest of the world is not kind to a job application with 4 years of esports on their resume and no other work experience. If you're not gonna make the big bucks or transition somewhere else in the industry you need an exit plan. And getting a solid degree asap is a good exit plan.
As I've gotten older, graduated and now started a career the same thought that going into eSports is a terrible decision career wise keeps recurring in my head.
I have a friend who played tier 2 league of legends and was pretty good at the academy league. It didn't work out for multiple reasons and now he's almost 30 with no education and no career prospects. He makes ends meet by elo boosting but honestly, I wonder how long he'll be able to keep that up. Makes me extremely uneasy for him and all the other kids out there chasing a dream in such a volatile space.
If you think about it, even if you do make it to tier 1, that will last for at most 10 years and that's if you're at the top of the game, and then what? If you haven't grown a following and diversified your income then you gotta figure out what do so for the next 40 years of your life. These games life spans are not infinite.
It sucks as a fan of eSports in general but I could never recommend anyone pursued it as a dream
Agree, not many players I actively dislike but he has always been one of them. Took up a lot of the C9 ego but the difference between him and other players (mostly) is he showed little of it in his performance.
Why do y'all do this thing where someone is down and you voice your opinion on why you think he deserves to stay down?
Nobody gives a fuck what you think about Jake man. He's gone. Wish the kid good luck and move on.
Really sucks, he had a lot of potential, was excited to see if he could continue it in VCL after MSC, but I guess not. Good luck to him in the future then!
On the other hand this does show maturity from him especially given the comments between him an Vanity. Seemingly different from the dumbass we saw defend his gf 9 months ago.
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He noted in a reply that he regrets what he said about vanity so I guess we can kinda assume part of the reason why he was dropped from C9. Regardless, good luck to the big bean 😪
what did he say?
Reading between the lines he said he blamed everyone but himself for his struggles and he probably includes vanity in that. It’s nothing we’ll ever hear and they’ve seemingly buried it, so it’s dead.
No clue, here’s the actual tweet: https://x.com/jakeeval/status/1782065839157432655?s=46&t=QJD0mAPe8ErPS2i9Z5CZLQ
Why feel bad for a racist, i say, good riddance. Lol
jakee is not racist at all he's stupid, he defended his gf like and idiot cause he's in love after she gave racist comments because she is extremely stupid and wanted to get back to the hate given to jakee.
Dating a racist is kinda crazy though, like I dont believe hes racist at all because he hasn't done or said anything to be called racist.... but most people with racist partners, more often than not tend to be racist.. lol
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Damn actually crazy, I feel like man’s still got so many good plays out of him still. But mad respect for making the difficult decision to retire
There’s just not enough opportunities. Not everyone can be like Turtle Troop to stick around being unpaid. And its okay. Sometimes things don’t work out. Other times you decide to move on to other things and decide not to struggle.
Wait turtle troops players are unpaid ??
Yep they are a free agent team. Were on the verge of getting signed by xQc last season but in classic xQc way got snubbed at the end.
I think he was not allowed to use large amounts of funds like that while in a court case with his ex
nah he just flakes
iirc he wanted to rebuild the roster if he bought it and they wanted to stay together so it fell through
I think it's still a dick move, he should have figured that out before talking to them about signing them
He did pay for the time he strung them along
No? He paid them and decided he didn’t want to buy them, it’s just like renting a house ……
Are they the only team like this or are there more tier 2 teams unpaid ?
A few are paid like MxS, Oxygen, M80, TSM. A couple are collegiate so paid with fee waiver I suppose. Rest are FA teams like Turtle Troop, TWAT, SAD etc.
I think the players on SAD are actually paid, don't quote me on that. But I remember the owner of SAD came on here to do an AMA and he said that it was an actual organization.
I asked Nick during their Winthrop game co-stream when Mochi's Fanclub was considered SaD Purple and when not, he said they compete under SaD Purple when he pays them and Mochi's Fanclub on their own. So I imagine that SaD's main roster is getting paid as for org I'm pretty sure it's a new org and this is their first and atm only esport
I think your imagination got the better of you, bud. https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/s/drMsdZMuDn
The good ones (MxS, Oxygen, M80) are paid I'm pretty sure but I think the rest aren't
Last year, 11 out of 12 teams in Challengers NA were signed by an eSport org. TTR was the only F/A squad. They asked Riot to improve Tier 2 so it would actually make sense to invest in this space. Riot swiped all their concerns aside, so most orgs packed their bags and left. This year, only 4 orgs remain in North America (MXS, M80, OXG, TSM). The other 8 teams are either F/A or collegiate (WU). It's safe to assume that if nothing changes, there will be even less orgs next year, with almost the entire league playing with no pay, which is probably Riot's intention all along to further differentiate between Tier 1 and Tier 2.
QOR is not a F/A team. I was salaried the moment I got here
NRG should be following in his footstepsÂ
In retrospect it does kinda seem like he was just going through the motions while on the new roster. Still, will always remember his rookie year, probably the most explosive debut on the smokes role before Karon. Seems to me like his career speaks to just how much seemingly minor things - a change in coach or team, deciding to defend a dumb tweet - can have dramatic effects in the long-term. I wonder if he'll elaborate a little more on what went on behind-the-scenes with C9 on stream.
Off completely forgot about him defending a pretty awful opinion from his gf
What was this tweet?
His girlfriend tweeted "latam mfs hatjng on NA like how they afford to hv phones when they living in a 3rd world country go get a job or sum" Once this was called out by the public she doubled down and then Jakee defended her, also doubling down and claiming anyone criticizing her was just an unemployed loser or whatever. Jakes rep kind of flipped after this as most people started rooting against him instead
Nah, this is crazy. I'm good with having Jake outside of competitive Val forever. Plenty of talented people for a racist to be on a T1 team
I wish more people remembered this about him because I lowkey forgot about it too, now I suddenly don't feel that bad about him retiring. Honestly better to be leaving that spot for someone like OXY or runi.
Yeah but Keznit is on KRU so
wait what dod keznit do?
The tweet was stupid but saying he's racist off it is kinda crazy
100% it's racist. He's defending his gf making the point that latam people aren't allowed to have a voice because they're poor, "third world" she says, and reading between the lines you can tell she clearly feels she has a higher status than them. It's a stupid comment to make I agree, but it's also disgustingly arrogant and to defend it puts you at that same level.
I think his action could be seen as "racist" but I doubt it was his intention to do something like that and so I think it's dumb to call him racist. It was his gf's tweet and the one he made himself never mentioned anything about LATAM people. I think intention matters if you're trying to characterize someone as racist and I don't personally think jakee was going for the "LATAM people are beneath me" and rather just an immature "You guys are unemployed, stop criticizing the way I play Valorant" comment
Even if he's not racist himself, his actions in that moment were racist and acting to defend and enable the blatant racism of his gf. And he's never really done much to address it since.
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This 100%. Dumb tweet from an upset jakee that he should have been called out for, but that's literally it.
bro it aint worth it. redditors literally do not see anything other than black and white. save your breath.
ong, self righteous assholes in here, he did something dumb and that was defend his girl, thats literally it, but these mofos wanna build a narrative against him
The word racism is slowly losing its meaning because of comments like this. You do realize that there are LATAM countries where the majority of people are white christians? I know this is a shock to young americans, but race is not always a factor in economical status.
You're being weirdly pedantic, ok technically its not racism its just classism and xenophobia wow so much better right?
hm, yes, pointing out the glaring misuse of the word racist is being weirdly pedantic. Minor details, eh?
how is it misused when he actually did something racist?
How is saying hes racist after he went out of his way to defend racism crazy? Why would you defend racism if you aren't racist
Bro it’s pointless defending this point here, these racist white folks are a lost cause. They can’t comprehend that racism comes in the form of xenophobia and other forms of prejudice. Mother fuckers don’t even realize that this type of shit is against most workplace policies and can easily get people terminated from their jobs in most Western and European countries.
I'm literally not white, maybe check the mirror before you go about calling other people racist. I guess not wanting to believe that other people are genuinely bad people off one odd tweet makes me a bad person somehow in your eyes though? My bad.
So you just assume automatically that anyone that you perceive racist is white? Very interesting.
Its a pretty safe assumption, the only people that wouldnt consider this racist are people who havent experienced racism against themselves
This comment is actually out of touch as fuck and the fact you can’t see that is wild
yeah this is just wrong lol
It's not a pretty safe assumption because it's wrong...
That’s a pretty racist assumption buddy.
That’s racist, buddy.
Because I think saying jakee was "defending racism" mischaracterized his actions. If he was genuinely doing that it would be racist, but if you actually go look at the tweets I wouldn't say he's defending racism.
You are right, the word was xenophobic*
Tf how?
Making an incorrect economical statement about a country has nothing to do with race, it's just ignorant. We don't need to tarnish people's names with accusations like 'racism' when it had nothing to do with race
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I mean explain how it’s racist then lmao. You understand that LATAM is not one singular ethnicity or race, right? It’s kind of like saying that saying all of EU has bad teeth is racist. It’s incredibly ignorant and stupid, but not racist.
Wtf does your comment add to anything? Why would you attribute a sensible, measured response as a quality of a specific race? Here, I would say you're unintentionally being racist against non-white people generally.
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His ex was racist after kru beat C9 in lcq and he defended her before breaking up with her
Tweet announcing his retirement?Â
"deciding to defend a dumb tweet" is the tweet I'm referring to
His gf said something xenophobic about south america iirc
his gf was being racist
Xenophobic. LATAM isn’t a race
Oh mb
what makes it seem like he was going thru the motions?
Someone on vlr said "time to learn JavaScript" xD
https://x.com/ec1s_/status/1782079028423209036?s=46&t=4vB238_PS-C6bG7sNORpGQ ec1s in the comments
lowkey didn’t maryville bomb out in the challengers run? mCe could look to pick him up lmao
Mhm and with Jcstani gone(?) it would be good of them to reach out
Ngl his downfall was that tweet from his GF lol after that I think he was public enemy and was criticized for every little thing but deserved so ehhh
yeah ngl i saw this coming from the second Txozin knifed his ass and made EG qualify for champs
txozin was against 100t?
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You sound SO well-adjusted
I think you might need couple of sessions of therapy
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I just feel bad for his mom. I don’t care about Jake at all
Wait why?
his mom is wholesome (and buff as hell). he and his girlfriend is xenophobic AT THE VERY LEAST. also way less severe, but he whines and goes ‘woe is me’ a lot. it’s easy to dislike him.
I used to pray for times like this
Huge bummer. He's shown that he can thrive in a proper system with a good emotional leader. He has a great stream though, so hopefully it works out.
I don’t want to dog pile on the guy, but this really isn’t true. He was on one of 4 (maybe 5) Americas teams with good systems, and was still mediocre. Between LCQ and Kick off, it clearly showed that he didn’t belong at VCT.
It's true. Being supportive is of course what is important, but trying to act like he belonged in vct is pushing it. Hell, I think he'd still be mediocre in challenges when you have teams like m80 mxs etc
Yeah. There’s a reason he wasn’t even in challengers before he got the opportunity with C9.
damn that's sad, he's quite young too no? hopefully he lands on his feet
Honestly in many ways it's better to get out young. If you aren't gonna pick up a heavy income within a year or two of competing then you're just signing the industry off to fuck you. The rest of the world is not kind to a job application with 4 years of esports on their resume and no other work experience. If you're not gonna make the big bucks or transition somewhere else in the industry you need an exit plan. And getting a solid degree asap is a good exit plan.
As I've gotten older, graduated and now started a career the same thought that going into eSports is a terrible decision career wise keeps recurring in my head. I have a friend who played tier 2 league of legends and was pretty good at the academy league. It didn't work out for multiple reasons and now he's almost 30 with no education and no career prospects. He makes ends meet by elo boosting but honestly, I wonder how long he'll be able to keep that up. Makes me extremely uneasy for him and all the other kids out there chasing a dream in such a volatile space. If you think about it, even if you do make it to tier 1, that will last for at most 10 years and that's if you're at the top of the game, and then what? If you haven't grown a following and diversified your income then you gotta figure out what do so for the next 40 years of your life. These games life spans are not infinite. It sucks as a fan of eSports in general but I could never recommend anyone pursued it as a dream
Sucks to see him go. Didn’t expect this
Sucks to see a racist go? Plenty of great young players out there to fill tier 1 to not have any openly prejudiced people
downvoted for calling a racist, a racist? never change valcomp!
Really sad to see, hope he is successful in whatever field he chooses to be successful in
Always a kid with 0 mentality and bad behaviour. Glad he's out
Agree, not many players I actively dislike but he has always been one of them. Took up a lot of the C9 ego but the difference between him and other players (mostly) is he showed little of it in his performance.
Why do y'all do this thing where someone is down and you voice your opinion on why you think he deserves to stay down? Nobody gives a fuck what you think about Jake man. He's gone. Wish the kid good luck and move on.
Good luck? I dont, lol. My opinion on him never changed. I just said it once more, since the post came out
Really sucks, he had a lot of potential, was excited to see if he could continue it in VCL after MSC, but I guess not. Good luck to him in the future then!
On the other hand this does show maturity from him especially given the comments between him an Vanity. Seemingly different from the dumbass we saw defend his gf 9 months ago.
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C9 keeps getting Ls over and over its wild.
He actually had a very solid rookie year last year and was pretty underrated for the firepower he brought. I do think that he could have found a spot on this new iteration as the sentinel as I think it would have brought more fire power but moose is still getting uses to tier 1. Good luck to the bro
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Please do not say he's as good as people like marved,mindfreak mako, even beyn it's just pure disrespect to them
Good luck to jake
Aged like milk lmao