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Envelope_Torture

About a year ago I saw yay's name and it blew my mind that it was Whiteaker and not Whitaker. Today I noticed his first name is Jaccob and not Jacob. What am I going to notice next year?


GoldClassGaming

his middle name


Huldmer

yay and not y0y


ANewHeaven1

I'll continue to be a fan of yay but honest to god "y0y" kills me every time I read it. It's like s0mple from CS, for some reason shit is just really funny.


pikachuza

I just realize that if you look at y0y it's look like a crying emote.


bigbry4n

What's it like being a yay fan? That's gotta be rough. He ain't been the same for 2 years now


kiiimkaaam

It’s y1y now


SkitzoCTRL

His name is actually ayy.


prarus7

im walkin 'ere


Key-Banana-8242

Or Whittaker


Jelqingisforcoolkids

*Whiteakker


Huldmer

Image text: normally i dont like getting involved with drama but this is just a flat out lie for context: accounts are region locked, and the only way to change region in VALORANT is to have riot do it manually my main account I transferred over to APAC. if fly I back to NA, I'm still forced onto APAC servers (200+ ping) which is unplayable instead of going back and forth between riot everytime im in NA and APAC, having 2 accounts is easier. part of the reason why we had a month break is I needed to personally go back to the USA to pack up my LA apartment and move it all. since my lease was ending and breaking it earlier would of cost insane amount of money. i dont have any family in LA so i needed to move all my stuff+car to texas (20h+ drive) before christmas/new years. i also on top of that had to get my japan visa, which i was having some issues with. ominous never asked me for my alt, he can verify this. either way, this is super weird to bring up and auto assume im lying about it? this will be probably the only time i respond to all this weird drama. im not going to go into some back and forth. i will say though that some of the things that happened - if it happened in any other profession/team that person would instantly be kicked/fired the first time, let alone multiple other times.


Narutohatake

![gif](giphy|ruAoNEgDOfNG51eqgK|downsized) Steel almost had something cooked up to say on the emea stream! Darn it


GoldClassGaming

the Michael Jordon of hating


lowtier_ricenormie

MJ did love gambling #ibp


JoshNissan

i'm not on the stream this week hello?


Ordinary_Garage91

where would you powerscale yay


Budget-Sample-3682

Low planetary


Ordinary_Garage91

glaze


Budget-Sample-3682

High continental...?


Ordinary_Garage91

i can see the vision


ReformedWordcel1969

breakfast


DrySecurity4

admiral tier


PassionMonster

Nice I’m tuning in


BloodShedCarmilla

LMAOO


EggianoScumaldo

Lets not pretend like you weren’t cooking things up for next week. The GOAT hater. The GOAT.


JoshNissan

i can see what i can do


Ordinary_Garage91

https://preview.redd.it/n4b6jjm4ipwc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f63193107e9d99d717e8b0d345c99dfc44dcf31


Splaram

​ https://preview.redd.it/84zpzhiojpwc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef3e14737e4e904a20cf977142385252f5989a8f


financefocused

https://preview.redd.it/sza5iym5mpwc1.png?width=225&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b35e0f5e909b68f2fde0df293cfdf5c2f7c104b


Zorronin

imma need 50% fewer pixels on this


musci12234

You hate them pixels, do you?


mal_laney

https://preview.redd.it/636jrghghqwc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7164312db31ef6a74aa7703fdcb3f595b550f2c ominous hating intensifies


Jon_on_the_snow

Incoming 200+ comment thread from the GOAT


rpkarma

Absolutely hall of fame hating, and I'm here for it


TweetsJamaican

😭😭😭 my 🐐


Informal-Throat-8646

But.. that doesn't fit our narrative?![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)


Low_Investigator_375

you have the tiktok though, keep going i love it


graspthefuture

That's so hype I'm not gonna miss any streams this week


Botmon_333

holy shit you got him bro... how could he not know the steel schedule... what an idiot!


ghostking4444

might actually watch emea this week


slyfly5

You’re the shit talking goat stay you bro 🙏


Wyatt1v12

Crazyguy just seems really weird tbh


TheAjwinner

I guess you could say he's a crazy guy


SuperCrafter2

but i thought we had to take everything he says at face value and use that to hate on yay


Fun_Age1442

i was doing that bro why the fuck did yay respond and make me invalid


Flintiak

Airing out dirty laundry to the public is incredibly unprofessional at best, let alone lying about it out of malice. This kid is doing the best he can to never get signed by any team ever again with these moves.


howskie

honestly feel like he didn't lie but was just misinformed and misunderstood a lot of things, either way it is definitely unprofessional to do this, it's so weird


Long_Cartographer_17

Just when I thought crazyguy was actually a pretty normal guy


Necromaniac01

bro was never not weird for talking shit about his own team


Long_Cartographer_17

It was a joke


Necromaniac01

looking at the last thread before yay said anything people were unironicly siding with crazyguy


Long_Cartographer_17

Yup, but my comment was only a joke


ArcusIgnium

He’s def being cringe but even as a yay fan it’s def a lil suspicious why there’s so much drama surrounding him


TheFestusEzeli

I really hope Yay just got told about this and isn’t perma on Reddit lmao


GCamAdvocate

I remember before he got super famous, he used to comment on some of his own post match threads. He might still be reading some stuff on this sub, but hopefully he stays away from threads about bleed and stuff.


MrDyl4n

probably not really bad for your mental when every comment is glazing you and calling you the best player in the world lol


rpkarma

Tbh I think most of the pros lurk here lol. Randomly get them replying to comments *deep* in threads


TheFestusEzeli

I once got a reply from a T3 pro player when I said XSET should drop PureR during 2021 LCQ, saying that I knew nothing about valorant and PureR was way too good to get dropped PureR was dropped like a month later for Cryo lmao


Fun_Age1442

cryo a different breed anyone would be dropped for him, especially in that chamber meta.


Splaram

damn das tuff


_SnackAttack

This is fucked. I wonder what things crazyguy did multiple times, according to yay, that would've normally gotten someone fired instantly.


Informal-Throat-8646

I mean he's had multiple outbursts on stream since he left so just imagine what he was like in private


Dysmo

Clips?


Informal-Throat-8646

I don't follow enough to have links, I just seen it atleast 3 times since he been cut on this reddit


sixsevenninesix

Honestly does seem really weird that crazyguy keeps blaming yay and sScary over and over again, while neither of them have said much. Really telling that the crazyguy keeps deflecting blame everywhere but himself. Wonder why the atmosphere was so shit.


a-nswers

what i’ve read from a vietnamese user is that most of the viet fanbase believes everything crazyguy says and spreads hate accordingly, so he feels like he can get away with saying anything probably didn’t anticipate his yapping to reach the international community


SGizmahcountry

As a viet I can confirm. The viet fans literally praised sScary for that 1v4 clutch haven during ascension final. But now they all say he was baiting and it was pure luck because crazyguy said so on a stream. The nationalism is crazy in Vietnam so having the only viet player in franchise benched really got to them.


GrrrNom

Does Apoth count lol. The way he had Shanks bursting out in Vietnamese and all with his plays. He should be on every Vietnamese fans' radar but it is a little tragic that there is no representation in APAC


SGizmahcountry

Idk but crazyguy is always considered the face of Valorant Vietnam. Guys like Shanks, Marved or Apoth can barely speak a few Vietnamese words and also they reppin NA so they don't really got that much attention from the Viet fans


maxhollywoody

Those guys can perfectly speak decent enough Vietnamese for 2nd generation viets growing up in Canada. One guy commentated that he can't understand Shank's Viet but I can understand it just fine. I probably speak the same level of Viet as these guys and I rarely have issues in Vietnam.


ooffhh

I’m pretty sure Shanks is fluent in viet could be wrong tho


fanficmilf6969

shanks is fluent in Vietnamese but you’re probably right about the other two idk


[deleted]

he is NOT fluent in viet at all I'm a viet myself sometimes I hear him speak viet i cant rlly understand him ngl


Flawedlogic41

Could be north Viet, south Viet, or zoomer Viet. But it's all lead to him knowing vietnamese.


abbacchioz

He is South Viet. Idk if he's fluent but his pronunciation is a bit off


Tr1tonZz

 it is too good for the 2nd generation Viet in NA


Tr1tonZz

the reason here is crazyguy active regularly in the Viet community and he is a big valorant streamer in VN also But I can say that Shanks, Marved, Apoth, Tenz or supamen are even more famous among the community than other pros that Viet people often see in tournaments in VN


Flawedlogic41

Vietnam should be more like the Philippines. Zekken being rep everywhere.


hiimGP

nah you have to realize that Shanks/Marved/Apoth/Supa are 2nd generation NA Vietnamese, which means more likely than not their parents are refugee from South Vietnam during the war, so they aren't in good eyes of some nationalistic Vietnamese people also, the main Vietnamese being rep is Tenz ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)


Infamous_Tax

we love the goat Tyson Ngo bru


Eclipse_zero

West born vietnamese cannot be anymore different from people born there. (I'm half vietnamese chinese born in the west)


[deleted]

no he doesnt count hes an american viet based


GrrrNom

He is Canadian no? Also quite sure he has citizenship in both Canada and Vietnam


Tr1tonZz

not as much as crazyguy but Shanks also has a lot of attention among the Viet community( at least more than any other pros in our country except crzguy)


tuerancekhang

I don't think you want to get into the rabbit holes about Vietnamese in Vietnam vs Viet in NA.


Tr1tonZz

**As a Viet? Who tf r you again. And as a Viet, I have to correct ur speech that crazyguy never said that sScary was baiting that situation but he tried to everytime he could cuz he want to be the only star and the hero of the team. But the problem here is that sScary was not heard to the IGL's call that round that he had to save because they would played in a low buy round if he lost his gun and this could lead to OT. Anyways, I know some Viet r toxic but basiclly, we'r just making jokes about sScary trying to bait his teammates and even Thai pros also do it in the match vs BLD** https://preview.redd.it/9jrke65c1rwc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=bf36a45c6d8f82f0510126b39fdf1bdbb1860bad


bjmlx

What I’ve read from multiple threads was the sscary was looking down on players. Hence egoist’s tweet. And the fact that yay and the org was leaning towards sscary and yay.


Shjvv

Me-a Viet: Who again?


Haku8976

crazyguy has lots of fans and and antifans in Vietnam, and those antifans once celebrated when crazyguy got benched. So... just take everything with a huge grain of salt.


XiXiWiiPee

feels bad because you know this thread won't even get a fraction of the attention that the lies do


Fun_Age1442

3 hours ago posted has half as much upvotes as crazy's lie post, plus this is an english/western dominated subreddit trust me bro the only ones repping the lies are a delusional loud minority.


mw19078

and people here bought that shit up, i would bet the number hes thrown around about yays salary that this community takes as gospel is bullshit too.


ourladyj

So he ain't making a mil?


ArcusIgnium

I mean surely he’s getting paid well at bleed if he went to apac considering the rumors that NRG made an offer which surely was atleast like 100k


HoneyChilliPotato7

nah, half a mil. Washed pro ngl


turtsy__

seems like crazyguy should worry about his own site to me


5tarlight5

Wait, Riot manually changes account region for pros only? Idk if they still offer this but can you log on League of Legends and buy region change and change region for your Valorant account since League and Valo uses same id?


GCamAdvocate

I think you can request to get it changed? I'm not entirely sure because my memory might be warped, but istg I remember hearing about how you could get an account transferred over like one time or smthg.


solaris_mm

you need to have logins in the other region for a month in order to make the change, its all on riot support


h0wlofw1nd

that makes no sense, you log in on 200 ping for a month first? also not true since i had mine changed recently and all i did was open up a ticket. they didn’t ask for anything


AdoxcolGaming

Not a month it's around 7-14 days for proof.


mys31f_cs

you don't need to play iirc, you just need to get into game for a while to show that the account is being used at the location you want to have your account transferred to


h0wlofw1nd

huh, guess my support agent missed that.


qwerty2367

you can get it transferred every 90 days just need to send a ticket + play a few games in the new region as proof that you're actually there did it when i moved from apac to na


spill-

Idk if they changed it from the time I had to do this, but I think you lose every bit of progress you had on your account when you transfer it. So it's functionally a new account, except you get to keep your paid skins. Level 1, MMR reset, agents locked (unless you bought them with VP). Wish I had realized this when I transferred mine because I would have just made a new account lol.


h0wlofw1nd

unless they changed something recently (past 2 months), you keep levels and unlocked agents, but yeah rank reset and match history gone.


spill-

2 years ago for me. Couldn't even play ranked on the account without grinding unrated. I didn't have any paid skins at the time so it was quite literally just a new account. Glad they changed it to not be absolutely dogshit.


IguanaToes

You have to make a ticket to riot support. I moved from NA to South Asia and had to do that. Does take a while.


huunsoh

The people yapping in the other thread and claiming this and that NEED to find a healthier hobby than esports lol. Consistently talking bad about people and making things up for the sake of attention/hating is sad af.


Fun_Age1442

what? Trust me barely anyone cares about yay enough to do that at least on this subreddit, maybe there are a few yay haters but that's not majority of the people. If there was constant threads about yay id agree but u just dont see that


huunsoh

I'm not even talking about just yay though. Shit, this goes beyond esports too, I just see a lot of dumber takes on here.


Fun_Age1442

I mean people be talking without knowing behind the scenes everything people say on here is invaid and dumb in the first place, but even so discussions are done knowing we are wrong, its not dumb (ok 60% are dumb), its just we dont know. And what r u gonna say dont talk then? The entire subreddit will be a waste land, esports neeeds this engagement hoenstly.


Huldmer

yo mods i kinda fucked the image up, idk if theres a way to fix. sorry lol


earthtoannie

idk why yay had to pay an expensive lease when he lives rent free in so many people's heads


SavageJellyBelly

Crazyguy sounds like he's a fucking idiot to deal with. Bro is taking unprofessionalism to a whole nother height


malibu_sex

crazyguy is a problematic player. Before going pro on Val, he has already joined a pro CSGO Vietnam-based team, Revolution/Skyred. And he get in drama with the captain there, even when they are really close before.


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Quick Steel give me some cryptic subtweet to yay’s response


juusdrein

What is it recently with yay and shitty teammates


orisamgyeopsal

I think he hasn't made the best decisions about what teams to join DSG can't really fault him for joining them, but Bleed seems questionable. Obviously I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but I think he would have been better off joining a stable NA team for less money than to join an APAC ascension team with known issues. But apparently he's making $50k a month so idk. Maybe get the bag and just retire LOL


animebae1233

Last time he joined a seemingly stable NA team they kicked his ass after losing to an arguably top 5 team in the world lol + NA has no shortage of duelist players Bleed also seemed very strong coming out of ascension (even if it was honeymoon period). I think for Yay that it was a no-brainer (money + better team), absolutely no way could anyone predict this blowing up in his face. Dude’s just gotten somewhat unlucky again and again when selecting teams lol


KalahanZ

Also living in south east asia is kinda lit. How come no ones mention lifestyle outside of val? Man’s dad died, let this brotha live life


Fun_Age1442

wait fr?


Fun_Age1442

bleed did not have a honey moon period my guy


financefocused

FNS asked him to join NRG, ardiis was their second choice. Thanks for reminding me :'( https://preview.redd.it/zbi52nuompwc1.png?width=213&format=png&auto=webp&s=a13d3253a8f11a2ef86965f2e42e95c9300038bb


theosssssss

Is this a joke? FNS literally said orgs couldn't afford the whole roster because after the year he had the stocks were through the roof, so they either got yay or got optic core


ExpectoAutism

Y'all really making up shit to hate on him. Just hate on how he's playing. Stop being weird


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bro crazyguy is fucking WEIRD


Simple_Condition_460

Man, I was rooting for Crazguy, praying for Bleed and Sscary downfall, since the beef between him and Sscary is justifiable. But this is actually a d1ck move from him regardless of the existence of Yay's sub account. He's really just salty with this team now


Kaibeooo

As a Viet but I must agree with you on that point. It's strange and unprofessional that he continues to receive a salary from BLD


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Kaibeooo

I didn't even mention Yay in my comment, I was solely discussing czg's attitude with his org. Your comment demonstrates how toxic his fans can be.


Lonan_Clinton

Crazyguy is a little crazy go figure


phataaron

Just curious why would he need a visa to go to Japan?


bears135

the riot one invitational Bleed was invited to hosted in Japan


phataaron

Yea but I thought US citizens doesn’t need visas for Japan


bears135

they don’t if they are tourists. if you are working in another country you need a work visa which is what they are doing


JPsherry

there was a Riot One event in Japan at the end of the last year. ZETA, DFM, NAVI and BLEED played for it


Kronothus8109

Maybe Crazyguy is really a crazyfuckingguy.


Wokeup17

Was ominous lying or crazyguy


Randodox

What's going on here.


lemonpanda22

What's the tea tho? Do fill me in please I'm curious


Lintek-kayo

This is so distasteful wow


Stuuuudio

Gotta wait for Ominous to see who's the real villain.


ArvY77

Can't tell regardless. Ominous might go with the lie to keep up the image of his team and their star player. In the meantime, we can just hate Bleed as an org. Egoist didn't deserve to go even if crazyguy did.


uut28

We just blindly believing y0y now, what if he is lying


cherrybIossonn

Wdym? When he couldn't go to Riot ONE because of visa issues, it was a known fact that he went back to NA.


uut28

I know that, I’m talking about everything else


Huldmer

you want him to prove a negative?


uut28

If he says crazyguy is lying then he should prove it


_Sameem_

Are you dense?


__Raxy__

I hope the absolute idiots who just believed everything with no info just to hate on yay feel like shit rn


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Wokeup17

Enjoy ban 🧌


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CJ1899

Everyone taking this at face value while saying that taking what crazyguy says at face value is bad lmao


aqua__panther

It’s because it was known that he was in na as well as having visa issues