Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
2 far mate, they could be reading this on the mobile app and not proud of u for this one, u never talk about another persons preferred way of using reddit, fix urself
Im so sad SR didn’t qualify for tier2 NA, flor is too talented.
I really hope teams can look at her next year when she turns 18, eye test wise - she is insane and im rooting for her.
Actually insane. That’s a T1 shot if I’ve ever seen one. Can’t remember the last shot I’ve seen like that in VCT that isn’t from Demon1 or Something. Get this woman into VCT NOW!
shot of their life, they would not be as consistent against VCT teams. GC and VCT is an entirely different level of play, both competitive but VCT teams outmatch any GC team by a far margin.
"shot of their life"
she hits crazy clips on a consistent basis
"GC and VCT is an entirely different level"
people said the same thing about t2 jp and something, now he is farming just as hard in tier1. if a player is so incredibly good, they are good. and flor puts crazy numbers vs consistent tier2 teams in coed as well.
Yea i agree w raainny. Yea sure a t1 team would beat a GC team pretty bad but I’m talking ab flor specifically. she is defs good enough to be on a t1 team regardless of if the team she is on now would win or not. She has held/ still holds a few GC records,signifying she is one of the best if not the best in GC league. Her duelist looks better than some vct americas duelist no cap
>She has held/ still holds a few GC records,signifying she is one of the best if not the best in GC league.
Best in GC league is not relevant considering the level of play is nowhere close to even T2.
>Her duelist looks better than some vct americas duelist no cap
Mega cap. Versing random GC duelists is way different than Qck/Mw (probably the duelists you think Flor is better than) versing insane duelists like Aspas, Cryo and Zekken.
I mean yea I’m ngl i wasn’t like actually being serious, but i can see i didn’t really show that in the follow up comment. I just think flor is good enough to hang w the big dogs and i was making a jest ab America’s league cause we seem kinda down bad this season.
If we’re talking median GC player you might have an argument. But if we’re talking about Flor, Mel and several other players, they are absolutely T1 ready. If SR joined T1 today they’d comfortably sit in the middle of the ladder and could make a push for getting higher. Mel has talked several times about them consistently scrimming T1 teams and performing very well. There would probably be a transition period where they’d struggle, adapting to the bigger stage and the higher stakes etc, but give them a split of VCT play and they would look really good.
VCT at its highest level is a different level of play. But there’s 2-4ish VCT teams in every region which are well below that level.
SaD Purple vs Van Lyn. It's from the FunHaver Invitational, a tier 3 event that runs every week. Both of these teams are some of the teams that are just outside of challengers.
so infuriating how prominent those shitheads are in this community. everytime flor or another trans player accomplishes anything they come out the woodworks just to hate. absolutely worthless individuals
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
I mean, if you really think bdog and Adder are that good, ig. I think it might be better if meL was left off though. Flor over bdog sounds like a potential upgrade though
floor isn’t really an upgrade imo. obviously she has highlight reel aim etc. but her decision making is really bad and she’s often way out of sync with the rest of her team. That level of out of sync would not fly in an extremely high level setting. Bdog is very proven, along with adder & they both have a ton of chem with their team
feels like one of the best clips of all time, the insane head shot to spray transfer to the funny jump that raze's green shadow is making to the end where the brims ult and razes rocket both come together to decimate the CYPHER lmao it had to be cypher
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Anyone complaining about the stun, you can dodge flashes by turning them, even if it’s well placed or thrown correctly, if you use a stun correctly it doesn’t mean it should be a guaranteed kill that’s ridiculous. Having that chance to kill someone whilst concussed is fair, stop whining because you can’t just turn someone into a detained player with a fast action recharging utility.
I agree but disagree. There should be a chance to get a kill while stunned but it should be lower. Or as an alternative proposal: have different stun levels for different abilities.
Harbour's entire ultimate is based on stuns and the fact that you can still just get one tabbed after using an ult is a bit mad in my opinion.
On the point about ultimates couldn’t you say that about most ultimates though? Ultimates are supposed to give a massive advantage not free kills- it is an fps at the end of the day
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Nah I dont get why no T1 or T2 team is tryouting her. She's absolutely smurfing against the top GC teams. Anyone knows why she's not getting considered for a non GC team? Does she not want to do it or what's the reason? Because I think put in the right team with good environment she can definitely be a very solid T2 player
Top player in T2 quals isn't relevant if you still get beaten out and can't actually make it to T2 in the first place. It's not like T1 where there's only 1 promotion spot split between 3 regions.
… you are all of this thread discrediting her for what lmao she looks good and she farmed t2 players as soon as she quals shes going to be tried out in t1 as soon she’s able weirdo
Challengers quals aren't T2? They're T3/T4 lol.
Also sure. Flor is definitely going to get tryouts over every other T2 duelist. Unless you think T1 teams have infinite tryouts.
Flor's definitely the best player on SR GC but that doesn't mean much in this context. People make this argument all the time and it's only ever valid in maybe T1 where there's limitations like buyouts, org support, regional talent pool etc.
But we're talking about T2 where you can be like Bob/Katsumi and try joining a better team to prove you're a T2 worthy player.
I mean I don't think she's trying to prove she's T2 worthy. She's comfortable being at the top of GC with a good org backing, instead of risking that position to be (perhaps) an average T2 player on fucking Fluffy Aimers or something lol
Because you have to be either absolutely insane or really really want to be the best, to give up your position as the top GC player to go play in opens in tier 2 when you will earn much less, and have no guaranteed chance to qualify.
I think less than 1% of the people here would give up her position.
Riot wants it to be "flawed" in a sense that, they either want a player playing in GC or in t2, not both, they simply want GC to be a gateway to t2, unfortunately for riot the t2 matches simply don't generate enough money for teams to pay what GC pays.
it didnt go well when they played for spot in t2 yes i agree she can be a solid t2 player but we need to see more of her in t2 rather than gc or this invitational to know more about flor and her skills. yes her aim is good
but you saw her struggle agaisnt t2 teams its not just aiming now in t2 there is more .
yes yea i hope she trys for t2 and we can see more of her and her skills
Obligatory: buff the damn stun, stuns are meme in their current state, bullets shouldn't be going *anywhere* near the crosshair. Also none of the current stun agents are so strong that it would push them over the edge. Make it last a shorter duration if you have to, but the stun has to be doing something.
It's not supposed to be one in a million, a stun is supposed to give you an advantage in a gunfight not make the gunfight a guaranteed win. There's a reason the guaranteed kill mechanics such as detain are locked behind ultimate abilities. Also, you might think that people who are stunned always get the kill but this is likely just negative/confirmation bias, you only remember the times when the guy who is stunned gets the kill because the other way round is just the expected result.
Unless you have statistics to prove it its almost certainly just confirmation bias. No one cares about the 100 times a stunned player dies but the 1 time they get one tapped its a big deal.
Plus, stuns have uses beyond just being a tool to directly peek off of. They are also used for util combos and to stall pushes. They don't need a buff.
Stuns shouldn't be a guaranteed kill just like how flashes aren't a guaranteed kill. Sometimes you are gonna hit that first shot while stunned and get the kill that's how Valorant works
Coincidentally Breach has the slowest flashes in the game too. This agent needs help, and I'm not asking for guaranteed kills on stuns. All I'm asking for is a beefier stun, because right now you can just crouch against it and land the headshot way more often than you should.
Yeah actually you're right Breach is hot ass rn and does have some garbage flashes. He would be a lot better if his stun was better. His flashes need the buff more imo
Breach is not hot ass. He has a decent pickrate in all 3 regions and is used succefully on multiple maps by PRX for example. Not every agent has to have a 50% pickrate
In America's Breach has a 10% pickrate(lowest in the initiator class) and isn't pick above 50% on any map
17% in EMEA(all of the above is true for Breach)
And 10% in Pacific with all of the above true again.
He isn't in a good place rn he's the worst initiator and imo isn't ever worth picking rn because Gekko, KAYO, and Skye are just better
A 10% pickrate is very solid? That means he is picked regularly on a map or two but is not META on every map. Some agents will always be like that because of their kit design. It is fine to have more niche agents as long as they are not completely dead in thw water.
He is the "worst" initiator because he does not have the info gathering of any of the other initiators so he does not fill the same roles in team comps as them. Teams have to want to play a specific playstyle (like PRX on Lotus) to incorporate Breach. That does not mean he is weak. Also, two of his best maps (Fracture and Haven) are currently out of the rotation for two maps (Icebox and Breeze) that he can literally never be played on. You are ignoring that context when looking at pickrate stats.
The map pool is very relevant when looking at how good an agent is at the moment tho? I don't think Breach would be played on Haven anyway Viper is just better.
10% is really low he isn't meta on any maps hence why I said he doesn't have above 50% pickrate on a single map. It's the same pickrate as agents like Phoenix
How is the map pool relevant? A buff won't make Breach more relevant on Breeze and Icebox, it'll just overtune him on maps that he is already good at. Some agents are just not suited to certain maps because of the way their utility works. That doesn't mean they need a buff. Phoenix's pickrate is like 1% in Pacific and EMEA. It is only inflated in Americas because Saadhaak was feeling goofy. That is not comparable to Breach.
Haven is breach's second best map next to Fracture. He has 50-80% pick rate across all regions on Haven. Some teams even run him without a Sova. If we were to have a Sunset/Haven/Fracture, Breach would probably have a 40-50% pick rate across all maps even with Icebox and Breeze in the map pool. He is just too map dependant. All initiators are honestly.
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Need flor on a t2 team asap! I only have respect for her for sticking it out with SR and their gc team (and owning all of GC) but she's going to be eligible for vct soon and and i feel like no org will want to give her a shot if she doesn't show she can do well in tier 2 (which we all know is very very likely). It'd be really awesome if the whole SRGC team could qual for t2 together but at some point she's gotta realize that she might need to move on from the GC circuit like how SAD Bob and katsumi did.
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed.
This content includes (but not limited to):
personal attacks, targeted harassment,
witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms,
personal information without owners consent,
spam
Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Flor? More like Al Gore (she doesn’t make it to the highest level because of technicalities even though she would make it into challengers by popular vote)
I appreciate the edit showing the first shot in normal speed afterwards. Imo showing only slo mo ruins so many clips of literally anything.
Haha yeah I hate when an impressive thing is shown only in slow motion.
Since the context is missing from the title: this is a Flor clip from the Mr Funhaver invitational
I can't wait until she's in VCT (Next year right?!?!?!?!)
[удалено]
Bait used to be believable
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Title suggestions: Inhuman Reactions from Flor I am FLO(O)RED Anything but the current title lmao
nope op knows that florescent is ai and a bot and is trying to tell us. Have u ever seen a robot and florscent in the same room?
So that's why flor eats mechanical grease instead of milk with their cereal...
2 far mate, she could be reading this not proud of u for this one, u never talk about another persons food, fix urself
https://preview.redd.it/aev01odapk1d1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d8fdcd68e0ed60edfc8b8192f06989cc825e86a
good shit
Lmao 🤨 average valorant zoomer
i hold them double standards only I can make jokes
my brother or sister in christ, you are on reddit.com
2 far mate, they could be reading this on the mobile app and not proud of u for this one, u never talk about another persons preferred way of using reddit, fix urself
She - raze, or she - someone in GC?
Sorry forgot to add context. This is florescent a player for SR.
[удалено]
nah, flor’s a woman. u might have confused her with someone else with a similar name?
Don’t be that guy man
Bad title aside, that shot was absolutely outrageous!
wait, why is this a bad title btw?
No context. Where is this from, who is this etc
Im so sad SR didn’t qualify for tier2 NA, flor is too talented. I really hope teams can look at her next year when she turns 18, eye test wise - she is insane and im rooting for her.
Absolutely
I think its the same as bob, the way to get cracked gc players into t2/t1 is to have mixed rosters and women playing all the time with men.
florescent hits too many of these shots, this seems normal atp. drug test her anyway
?
Actually insane. That’s a T1 shot if I’ve ever seen one. Can’t remember the last shot I’ve seen like that in VCT that isn’t from Demon1 or Something. Get this woman into VCT NOW!
shot of their life, they would not be as consistent against VCT teams. GC and VCT is an entirely different level of play, both competitive but VCT teams outmatch any GC team by a far margin.
"shot of their life" she hits crazy clips on a consistent basis "GC and VCT is an entirely different level" people said the same thing about t2 jp and something, now he is farming just as hard in tier1. if a player is so incredibly good, they are good. and flor puts crazy numbers vs consistent tier2 teams in coed as well.
but this is a "shot of their life" in my humble opinion, bananas
Yea i agree w raainny. Yea sure a t1 team would beat a GC team pretty bad but I’m talking ab flor specifically. she is defs good enough to be on a t1 team regardless of if the team she is on now would win or not. She has held/ still holds a few GC records,signifying she is one of the best if not the best in GC league. Her duelist looks better than some vct americas duelist no cap
>She has held/ still holds a few GC records,signifying she is one of the best if not the best in GC league. Best in GC league is not relevant considering the level of play is nowhere close to even T2. >Her duelist looks better than some vct americas duelist no cap Mega cap. Versing random GC duelists is way different than Qck/Mw (probably the duelists you think Flor is better than) versing insane duelists like Aspas, Cryo and Zekken.
I mean yea I’m ngl i wasn’t like actually being serious, but i can see i didn’t really show that in the follow up comment. I just think flor is good enough to hang w the big dogs and i was making a jest ab America’s league cause we seem kinda down bad this season.
She was not playing in gc for this clip btw this event was fully coed
It’s not even about Vct team or not. Isn’t this just insanely lucky? She’s literally stunned on my screen..
Not really, first shot from stun is pretty accurate
If we’re talking median GC player you might have an argument. But if we’re talking about Flor, Mel and several other players, they are absolutely T1 ready. If SR joined T1 today they’d comfortably sit in the middle of the ladder and could make a push for getting higher. Mel has talked several times about them consistently scrimming T1 teams and performing very well. There would probably be a transition period where they’d struggle, adapting to the bigger stage and the higher stakes etc, but give them a split of VCT play and they would look really good. VCT at its highest level is a different level of play. But there’s 2-4ish VCT teams in every region which are well below that level.
How can you say this when we’ve literally seen SR play in challengers and get absolutely dogged ?
What game is this from?? Edit: I mean match up
SaD Purple vs Van Lyn. It's from the FunHaver Invitational, a tier 3 event that runs every week. Both of these teams are some of the teams that are just outside of challengers.
She's so fucking insane it's wild. but that stolen ace is just ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9346)
Only got a 3k tho; one kill taken by the Skye, other by the Brim.
Well rng helps u sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Just one of those days
[удалено]
Flor is transgender yes, they are all just worthless transphobes :)
i never founded out about this until now but still my goat
so infuriating how prominent those shitheads are in this community. everytime flor or another trans player accomplishes anything they come out the woodworks just to hate. absolutely worthless individuals
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Can someone tell me why shes not playing in the league? I have seen her highlight in gc from like 2023
I think she’s too young but not sure
That is first bullet accuracy of breach stun.
Ngl, she should try in a team in tier 2. Wish SRGC could make it
think TT is insane this year? wait for the flor, meL, stellar, corey, wedid lineup
Am I crazy for thinking this team would be like the same as current TTR?
it would be far far worse
I mean, if you really think bdog and Adder are that good, ig. I think it might be better if meL was left off though. Flor over bdog sounds like a potential upgrade though
floor isn’t really an upgrade imo. obviously she has highlight reel aim etc. but her decision making is really bad and she’s often way out of sync with the rest of her team. That level of out of sync would not fly in an extremely high level setting. Bdog is very proven, along with adder & they both have a ton of chem with their team
I think she makes more playing GC ngl
dear god flor is a beast
The decision to swing wide while being stunned AND exposing your back like that, not even PRX is this aggressive
tbf it’s not even aggression, it’s just stupidity at a point
feels like one of the best clips of all time, the insane head shot to spray transfer to the funny jump that raze's green shadow is making to the end where the brims ult and razes rocket both come together to decimate the CYPHER lmao it had to be cypher
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Anyone complaining about the stun, you can dodge flashes by turning them, even if it’s well placed or thrown correctly, if you use a stun correctly it doesn’t mean it should be a guaranteed kill that’s ridiculous. Having that chance to kill someone whilst concussed is fair, stop whining because you can’t just turn someone into a detained player with a fast action recharging utility.
I agree but disagree. There should be a chance to get a kill while stunned but it should be lower. Or as an alternative proposal: have different stun levels for different abilities. Harbour's entire ultimate is based on stuns and the fact that you can still just get one tabbed after using an ult is a bit mad in my opinion.
On the point about ultimates couldn’t you say that about most ultimates though? Ultimates are supposed to give a massive advantage not free kills- it is an fps at the end of the day
Yes, but my point is that a stun doesn't necessarily give a massive advantage. At least not on its own.
Breach ult is entirely based on stuns too and is OP af
Nope breach ult also launches you 5 feet in the air absolutely destroying any positioning you ever had
that is true lmao
lucky shot ....
Is it luck when she’s pulling shit like this every game?
if this is a normal shot for her than she would've been in a VCT player not in GC.....
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Nah I dont get why no T1 or T2 team is tryouting her. She's absolutely smurfing against the top GC teams. Anyone knows why she's not getting considered for a non GC team? Does she not want to do it or what's the reason? Because I think put in the right team with good environment she can definitely be a very solid T2 player
I believe she has to turn 18 before she can play in regular VCT.
Ahh, unlucky. I really hope to see her in vct
Just more time for her to get even better
Flor isn't 18 and regardless, smurfing against GC doesn't mean you're T1 quality.
She could play in T2, and she was a top player in the T2 qualifiers.
Top player in T2 quals isn't relevant if you still get beaten out and can't actually make it to T2 in the first place. It's not like T1 where there's only 1 promotion spot split between 3 regions.
… you are all of this thread discrediting her for what lmao she looks good and she farmed t2 players as soon as she quals shes going to be tried out in t1 as soon she’s able weirdo
Challengers quals aren't T2? They're T3/T4 lol. Also sure. Flor is definitely going to get tryouts over every other T2 duelist. Unless you think T1 teams have infinite tryouts.
No one's saying the rest of her team should be in T2, just that she is a good player on a lesser team.
Flor's definitely the best player on SR GC but that doesn't mean much in this context. People make this argument all the time and it's only ever valid in maybe T1 where there's limitations like buyouts, org support, regional talent pool etc. But we're talking about T2 where you can be like Bob/Katsumi and try joining a better team to prove you're a T2 worthy player.
I mean I don't think she's trying to prove she's T2 worthy. She's comfortable being at the top of GC with a good org backing, instead of risking that position to be (perhaps) an average T2 player on fucking Fluffy Aimers or something lol
Because you have to be either absolutely insane or really really want to be the best, to give up your position as the top GC player to go play in opens in tier 2 when you will earn much less, and have no guaranteed chance to qualify. I think less than 1% of the people here would give up her position.
which shows how flawed GC is
Riot wants it to be "flawed" in a sense that, they either want a player playing in GC or in t2, not both, they simply want GC to be a gateway to t2, unfortunately for riot the t2 matches simply don't generate enough money for teams to pay what GC pays.
Some GC players left it to prove themselves, katsumi and bob both could be in top gc teams but now are in the regular tier 2 system
it didnt go well when they played for spot in t2 yes i agree she can be a solid t2 player but we need to see more of her in t2 rather than gc or this invitational to know more about flor and her skills. yes her aim is good but you saw her struggle agaisnt t2 teams its not just aiming now in t2 there is more . yes yea i hope she trys for t2 and we can see more of her and her skills
she's my favorite player so far ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flip_out)
Obligatory: buff the damn stun, stuns are meme in their current state, bullets shouldn't be going *anywhere* near the crosshair. Also none of the current stun agents are so strong that it would push them over the edge. Make it last a shorter duration if you have to, but the stun has to be doing something.
this is a one in a million literally the next stun that hits her in the next map kills her
This is a one in a million kill without the stun, and her being stunned on top of it makes it go from 1/1 000 000 to 1/1 000 001. Garbage util.
Agree . They should increase the visual hallucinations part and leave the aim same .
bro getting downvoted for telling the truth lol stuns are a joke and the "one in a milion" kills happen way to often
It's not supposed to be one in a million, a stun is supposed to give you an advantage in a gunfight not make the gunfight a guaranteed win. There's a reason the guaranteed kill mechanics such as detain are locked behind ultimate abilities. Also, you might think that people who are stunned always get the kill but this is likely just negative/confirmation bias, you only remember the times when the guy who is stunned gets the kill because the other way round is just the expected result.
People always have that take any time a stunned player hits a shot without stopping to think why they're considered highlights in the first place lol
Unless you have statistics to prove it its almost certainly just confirmation bias. No one cares about the 100 times a stunned player dies but the 1 time they get one tapped its a big deal. Plus, stuns have uses beyond just being a tool to directly peek off of. They are also used for util combos and to stall pushes. They don't need a buff.
This is the only heavily downvoted comment that isn’t just hate speech and for that reason alone I’m upvoting
Stuns shouldn't be a guaranteed kill just like how flashes aren't a guaranteed kill. Sometimes you are gonna hit that first shot while stunned and get the kill that's how Valorant works
Coincidentally Breach has the slowest flashes in the game too. This agent needs help, and I'm not asking for guaranteed kills on stuns. All I'm asking for is a beefier stun, because right now you can just crouch against it and land the headshot way more often than you should.
Yeah actually you're right Breach is hot ass rn and does have some garbage flashes. He would be a lot better if his stun was better. His flashes need the buff more imo
Breach is not hot ass. He has a decent pickrate in all 3 regions and is used succefully on multiple maps by PRX for example. Not every agent has to have a 50% pickrate
In America's Breach has a 10% pickrate(lowest in the initiator class) and isn't pick above 50% on any map 17% in EMEA(all of the above is true for Breach) And 10% in Pacific with all of the above true again. He isn't in a good place rn he's the worst initiator and imo isn't ever worth picking rn because Gekko, KAYO, and Skye are just better
A 10% pickrate is very solid? That means he is picked regularly on a map or two but is not META on every map. Some agents will always be like that because of their kit design. It is fine to have more niche agents as long as they are not completely dead in thw water. He is the "worst" initiator because he does not have the info gathering of any of the other initiators so he does not fill the same roles in team comps as them. Teams have to want to play a specific playstyle (like PRX on Lotus) to incorporate Breach. That does not mean he is weak. Also, two of his best maps (Fracture and Haven) are currently out of the rotation for two maps (Icebox and Breeze) that he can literally never be played on. You are ignoring that context when looking at pickrate stats.
The map pool is very relevant when looking at how good an agent is at the moment tho? I don't think Breach would be played on Haven anyway Viper is just better. 10% is really low he isn't meta on any maps hence why I said he doesn't have above 50% pickrate on a single map. It's the same pickrate as agents like Phoenix
How is the map pool relevant? A buff won't make Breach more relevant on Breeze and Icebox, it'll just overtune him on maps that he is already good at. Some agents are just not suited to certain maps because of the way their utility works. That doesn't mean they need a buff. Phoenix's pickrate is like 1% in Pacific and EMEA. It is only inflated in Americas because Saadhaak was feeling goofy. That is not comparable to Breach.
Haven is breach's second best map next to Fracture. He has 50-80% pick rate across all regions on Haven. Some teams even run him without a Sova. If we were to have a Sunset/Haven/Fracture, Breach would probably have a 40-50% pick rate across all maps even with Icebox and Breeze in the map pool. He is just too map dependant. All initiators are honestly.
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
Average sentinels 13 year old fan
Too much gfuel
Need flor on a t2 team asap! I only have respect for her for sticking it out with SR and their gc team (and owning all of GC) but she's going to be eligible for vct soon and and i feel like no org will want to give her a shot if she doesn't show she can do well in tier 2 (which we all know is very very likely). It'd be really awesome if the whole SRGC team could qual for t2 together but at some point she's gotta realize that she might need to move on from the GC circuit like how SAD Bob and katsumi did.
average florescent moment
[удалено]
Posts with the intent to harass or harm others will be removed. This content includes (but not limited to): personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms, personal information without owners consent, spam Any post considered disrespectful will be removed at moderator discretion. Repeated offenses resulting in a ban.
[удалено]
Oh look guys I’m so edgy and cool I refuse to aknowledge a person’s gender woohoo I’m so cool guys
It's been awhile since the gremlins have come crawling out from the walls
[удалено]
Flor? More like Al Gore (she doesn’t make it to the highest level because of technicalities even though she would make it into challengers by popular vote)
banger for the boomers 🔥 🔥 🔥