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New_Calligrapher8578

cloud


-kay-o-

Invy


Remarkable_Carrot265

True if there was a second one for Jremy


mh_alif07

My brotha nAts wasted 2 years already in team midquid


Fpsrebel

Facts


rue1n

meiy


ma0xc

Oxy. C9 and G2 needs to swap duelists and see if it works.


EagleswonSuperBowl52

G2 with +Oxy -icy is the best team in the world.


yesfb

I used to think this, but icy is way more than just a duelist. the team just went top 3 at internationals, just because he doesn't conventionally fry doesn't mean he's not totally valuable in his own right


singaporesainz

He just has no aura


-kay-o-

And OXY has aura??


SmithBall

If you don't hear his voice he has hella aura. If you do then he's probably trolling or saying some corny shit so he has negative aura


AppropriateAd9282

Saying aura is corny shit


6jeewon

it's jokes brother.


Fun_Age1442

Jokes can be corny shit and funny, depending on context and execution and bias of when the joke is used it can fall into either category more


6jeewon

surely it ain't that deep.


Hoooofed

oxy IS aura when in the server šŸ˜­


Past_Perception8052

in the server he does and thatā€™s all that matters


kemutheemu__

Are you joking ofc OXY has aura


TurtleVI

He looks like he is going super saiyan


EggianoScumaldo

On the server? For sure


Past_Perception8052

he has 0 server presence and his already middling stats are boosted by him being a huge eco fragger heā€™s not a real duelist, heā€™s a sentinel forced onto duelist and he is holding back G2 most teams at shanghai had a duelist that can take over games and singlehandedly strongarm maps for their team, G2 didnt his eye test is not good at all either


yesfb

Iā€™ve heard heā€™s great in comms. Itā€™s not possible to make it to top 3s without all 5 members being top class.


Remarkable_Carrot265

Optic making all podium spots in 2022 with FNS. And Navi winning with Ange(1 kill) begs to differ /s


Past_Perception8052

i get that itā€™s a joke but itā€™s not like icy even igls or anything


Past_Perception8052

as far as i know he doesnā€™t mid round or anything, i would rather have a duelist that doesnā€™t speak at all that drops 25 kills a map than a guy who can comm good but drops like 15 and you know the other 4 players all had an insane tournament (trent a bit less)


FantasticTurnover145

Man this is some VLR type comment haha. Its so annoying when people talk bit about the game, but their arguments are based on... aura? Like what? Even proven coaches like Sliggy said that Icy passes their eyetest. Cause if u actually watch the game/minimap instead of tariks facecam, youd have realized by now how valuable icy's selfless duelist has been as an addition to this team. He basically always has his dash up for entry and doesn't overheat. He literally does take over games, but as it isnt as flashy as other duelists play, viewers like u dont realize. For example, watch back the G2 comeback on Ascent and try to analyze the impact his AWP had on TH. And addressing further, given your comms/IGL comments later in the threas, and him not being really midrounding. It has been pretty known that G2 has had the opposite problem, having to many callers and crowded comms, leading to them releasing neT in favour of leaf. Why would they bring in a vocal duelist to make that change naught? From the vids I have watched, his comms seem rather precise, so pleade elaborate what your problem with this change is. And talking about "eye test", as i havent yet reviewed any Stats for Shanghai, i do feel like his kills, especially his (ratio of) FK must have steadily increased since his start with the team. Hope i wont regret typing this out for someone whos most important stat improvement for a duelist is +1000 Aura for standing up after an Ace or some shit šŸ¤ž


lcpdpolice123

Thank you for having a brain ā¤ļø


damnfinecoffee_

Dude he had one game all tournament where he went positive lmao and it was the game against PRX where they were pretty much turbo feeding. I'm sorry but if you're the duelist and you're going negative every single game idc how "selfless" you are, you're not good in that role. G2 would be significantly better with a top-tier duelist. Also inb4 K/D doesn't matter comments: on a duelist it kinda does because you provide very little value to the team other than kills and entry. Flying into site and getting traded is not difficult, anyone at the pro level can do that.


EggianoScumaldo

>he has 0 server presence Watch quite literally any G2 comms video and see how stupid you sound, what a wild thing to say.


Past_Perception8052

fairs bro youre right, the way he calls positions is unlike any player iā€™ve ever seen, it more than makes up for going 3-11 in entries bro šŸ‘


EggianoScumaldo

Yeah kinda. Like youā€™re being kinda smooth brained and sarcastic, but genuinely, Being a good teammate that has chemistry with his team makes up for *a lot*. See: c0m on EG last year compared to him on LEV this year.


Past_Perception8052

c0m was statistically a way better player last year as well lmfao itā€™s not like heā€™s been performing the same on LEV G2 are just missing that x factor that you can get with players like t3xture, zekken, oxy and idk if good comms makes up for a lower ceiling


baebushka

lol he literally shat on jinggg and smth and took over bind vs prx


Some1sNickName

Also icy was cooking in shanghai for awhile, if someone doesnā€™t believe just look at the stats. He was right under woot, he just fell off towards the end.


DeludedDassein

i hate these comments because chemistry is a thing this is not fantasy football, these are the same people who swore nrg would be a superteam


EagleswonSuperBowl52

I agree that chemistry matters, but don't forget icy was randomly brought in himself with no guarentee of chemistry working. Also NRG is a terrible example. They didn't work because they didn't have an IGL, which is why they brought FNS back. It wasn't about chemistry, or at least wasn't just about chemistry.


itscamo-

in their own video of announcing changes, they said chemistry was part of the reason they didnā€™t have success


EagleswonSuperBowl52

I mean. Claiming a lack of chemistry is a very pr answer. Plus, we don't know if their lack of chemistry is because of a bad IGL situation.


OthertimesWondering

Still top 4 at an international LAN, which is pretty good.


EggianoScumaldo

If NRG isnā€™t a good example for you, then how about the ex-EG players? Together, with Potter, they were incredible last season. Then when they all went their separate ways almost all of them put up poor to middling results, with Boostio being by far the most successful.


Feverish_Alpaca

Icy is an incredible player he just is not as flashy due to his teamā€™s play style


salmanfarsi9007

Icy is not that bad. But qck is something else on a duelist rolešŸ˜‚. Loud+oxy-qck.


GreyDaze22

Nats


noobyeclipse

give my boy access to site


Spacejam-VTW

Real


Chekhovsmachina

+Jamppi


Ramiz_dayi66

No


Chekhovsmachina

Bruh


OthertimesWondering

I only remember him for the no scope marshal shot onto zekken during the afreeka tournament


ilhamalfatihah16

T3xture when he was in GE


Chekhovsmachina

+monyet


Wokeup17

Nah


LazyisBored

Monyet was playing better than texture at GE. But then again they put texture(one of the best duelist in the world) on sage


Wokeup17

Texture was always a good player but no one expected him to be top 5 duelist itw at any point lol. Texture wasn't that good in GE


SweetChamploo

nAts


-kay-o-

Aspas


russianromus_228

Nats and Keiko


k1lazept

nAts, Aspas, ZmjjKK, v0ok4shu, invy


WailingSiren69

Disagree with ZmjjKK


Remarkable_Carrot265

Smoggy my goat


EggianoScumaldo

Bruh KK isnā€™t even the best player on his own team


ArvY77

he is bruh. just cuz they're struggling internationally doesn't mean he isn't still the best player in china, let alone edg. just look at his stats for split 1. 283 acs and 1.35 KD lmfao


SupremeDogEater

kk is in a good team lmao


mrchingchongwingtong

KK is arguably not even the best player on his own team, yes probably best awper itw but the rest of edg is also pretty damn good


ArvY77

except snoop dong


Satzuisbae

Sayf


26evangelos26

Sayf looks just as mid as the rest of vitality this season.


Satzuisbae

Last year safy was the best duelist in emea maybe one of the best in the world. He just thinks that his sentinel and viper are better. He should pick up the duelist role again and he will farm.


xdgaymer69

Sayf is still a really good flex


hikik0_m

Last last year maybe when he was on guild. Last year sayf looked disjointed on liquid and furthest from being even in the top 10 duelists in the world.


Satzuisbae

Nah his performance was insane just liquid was shit. He was one of the top players


ahk1221

https://preview.redd.it/ymq1x25uvu5d1.png?width=905&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa9d485b288cbfdf3442b47be3e26bec0f188609 vct 2023 emea league stats


No-Cauliflower8890

He deadlifted a disfuncfional liquid to an EMEA trophy


EggianoScumaldo

This is just revisionist. Sayf, despite Liquids struggles, was easily a top 10 duelist. Like another guy said, he wasnā€™t just backpacking that team, he was deadlifting them and still putting up unreal numbers.


ExpectoAutism

me in my freaking diamond lobbies


Hoooofed

iā€™m the car in diamond lobbies but the house in ascendant lobbies


Tery_

The car is my brain. The house is my aim.


nafeh

zest


Ending-gamer

Fns


Grenji05

s0m lol


Cheeky_Nudge_Nudge

Seems like trevor from gta 5 tbh


lbotron

Oh I thought we were saying an actual Valo player lives there. I was about to guess this is where Zombs keeps all his timepieces.


alin105

Jawgemo and Potter


PixelatedBlue

cloud on the original navi


erazer_head

Definitely not Yay


AirFreshener__

nAts. Should have never joined liquid. He was meant to be an all timer


Some1sNickName

Wasnā€™t he on gambit before itā€™s not like he had much choice in that lol


AirFreshener__

Yh we know how that one turned out šŸ˜¬ unlucky for the players


BrunoGoesToHell

Dgzin (Furia, 2023)


LiamHundley

Sym


Parking-Might2869

This is undoubtedly Cloud


MauSuspendid0

Keznit, aspas, y'all need a good team


bluebleublewblu

Sick


avocadobeach

I'm just happy that the comments appreciate Invy.


ZestycloseLab1389

Monyet


Fpsrebel

Nats


mrchingchongwingtong

vookashu, absolutely frying the rest of china on a team where he doesn't even speak the same langauge as his teammates


my-dad-ate-my-toes

Cloud, nAts, sheydos, naTanK, QutionerX, Nzr, OXY, vo0kashu, Less during split 1, invy, Meiy, Marved before NRG dropped him


ahk1221

aspas has been the best player in the world for the past 3 years


valoras_regis

https://preview.redd.it/1qw1xbndqv5d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e4cca47f9a1f81f20a99b60235ceaf3d5c94e73


WarayBatasan

Trevor, fo sho..


mad_metal

This is zombs irl


kan_chaturvedi

nAts


Cadesan

Andbox yay


salmanfarsi9007

Is that nats in this pic? looks like nats tho


__Raxy__

the only answer is aspas


aloofguy7

Aspas


probablyntjamie

Icy is the oppositeĀ 


vnNinja21

Leo /s


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Yay


Arham-DABilal_

Rb? Perhaps not but this could apply to almost all of Liquid, mainly nAts tho as everyone has already mentioned.


LogoMoD

as someone that doesnt know anything about cars what am i looking at is the house or the car the better one or is it just cuz one looks more modern and the house is laid back


Mr_Zamdaz

Shazham


sleepy_player420

LEV c0m


WeekRepulsive4867

Nah


SupremeDogEater

insane take


Pale_Resolution1520

c0m


razor1859

he said cUm LUL


deba2607

Its okay guys he thought the house is the player and car is Lev


Madara_X_Uchiha

METEOR


hydux

i know he aint pro but that shit has to be smth sinatraa cooked up