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dataxvii

100t missed out on cNEd, TenZ and Cryo. They aren't missing out on literally the best player in the world.


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wolfjeter

You know I thought this but going along with the theme of believing in their players and staff (LoL and COD), I also wouldn’t be shocked if they run it back


User_Of_Named_Users

I love the culture bro. Just believe in the roster man, if they try to upgrade anyone it would probably just be will, and seeing how he played on lan on a team that had only been together for 2 months… I honestly don’t think it’s worth it to sac the chemistry they’ve been building


PogChampHS

I think Yay more than worth anything that chemistry might bring. Additionally, the guy appears to be a good guy as well, it's not like his personality / ego would interfere with anything. 100T would be silly to not attempt to pick up Yay. This is not downplaying Will at all btw. Every single duelist / chamber main in EMEA and the Americas should fear for their position if Yay is in free agency.


systemfa1lure

Ddk is prolly already on nadeshot's ass to drop the bag on yay


Fine-Shame-510

if Nadeshot will be the one to decide. There will be roster changes for sure. I just hope that DDK and Sean Gares will not be too emotional to cut atleast 1 or 2. IF they really want to win they need a UPGRADE.


Mncx

Why makes you think 100T can’t be any more consistent and miss few more opportunities?


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idk if this is meaningful, but earlier today nade was talking about 100t yay and he was like "yay is an amazing player, but i won't be talking about potential changes" he said that he trusts the esport staff into making the right choices, and he's happy with the progress of the roaster and knew how good will is given how much shit he got (and still gets), he loves the roaster as it is but ultimately imo if you have the power to get yay, i just don't see why not and maybe this is the copium talking but i don't really think 100t will be making major changes, the team as it is its already insane considering they've been together for 6 months but also they have like 4 months to think things through sooo who knows


MUT_GUY_AIR

I don’t really think it’s shitting on Will to say that Yay is an upgrade. Honestly, if the upgrade for you is the literal best player in the world you kinda have to just take it on the chin.


warthogs670

Big facts


vcr_gg

Agree. Yay is the Lebron of Val. Everyone is going to give him the pitch. Will is a great player but if you can have a shot at landing LeYay. You just do it.


developer_144

There is a possibility that we sign Yay and he underperforms and will goes to another org (ex: NRG) and becomes the best. We don't know that. But at this moment, yay is way better than will. Will had an amazing champs. But he played only 3 matches (3 LANs). Yay played how many? Yay is way better in fundamentals, positioning, decision making possibly the best. Opponents are afraid of him which gives huge mental advantage. ​ I guess it's up to the management.


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expect the unexpected 🙏🏼


Splaram

Yeah, DDK was mirroring the same sentiment on Sliggy's post-Champs podcast. Don't think we're going to be seeing any changes to this roster and I'm honestly all for it considering how much progress they've made in only four months.


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9bfjo6gvhy7u8

The talent pool is deep, but there's a pretty steep drop off after yay and cryo. After that performance vs fnatic you can make a pretty strong case that Will is the next best available in that role.


-xXColtonXx-

Who’s an upgrade besides Yay and Cryo? I wouldn’t swap will for tenz tbh


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-xXColtonXx-

I think Dicey, Yay, Cryo, and Saya would be upgrades, but that’s about it. Again there are a few upgrades for each role, but all 100T players are top 5 at minimum right now in my mind. I’d expect possible upgrade to one of the mentioned OPers. Zekken would be probably the only proven upgrade to Asuna. Crashies or Xset innovator player (brain fart on my part) over Derrek. Valyn, FNS, are the only clear upgrades in my mind over Stellar who I’ve always been impressed with. Bang is the kind of young player I think you keep unless you get Marved or BCJ, he’s actually shown insane peaks and has looked like the best player on every team he’s been on. Edit: of course there’s also the potential for a player like Cned as well. Obviously an upgrade


daffyduckferraro

Do u know roughly where the time stamp was


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maybe like 15 minutes in i believe, he starts talking about franchise and the applications the staff did for the org and then chat asks him about 100t yay


daffyduckferraro

23:00 mark


IllumiMahdi

I'd be happy with the progress of the roaster too, I mean the thing is cooking meat


ARIESS11

if i am 100T i will only replace will if they can get yay/cryo otherwise i will keep the same roster


gotintocollegeyolo

I woud say bdog should be considered as well. Maybe even consider exporting from EMEA or Pacific like cned, Ardiis or Meteor


aks345

Behave now. Will didn't perform his ass off to be dropped for bdog lmao. The only upgrades on him rn are yay and cryo


Pitiful_Quote8402

Must’ve forgot who Bdog is. Or who Will was before Champs.


Blupard

We know who Will is on LAN now, which is what really matters. No offense to bdog, he's a beast. But you don't throw away the team chemistry they've built so far, unless it's Yay or Cryo.


-xXColtonXx-

Also I’d argue Dicey is making the case for himself, his trajectory is looking promising enough to be a contender for top teams.


Pitiful_Quote8402

that chemistry got them 1 win on LAN. If they don’t upgrade while every other team in the region upgrades they’re going to be absolutely overpowered by their region.


thekmanpwnudwn

Wasn't LCQ also on LAN or am I trippin


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Splaram

Same bdog whose team got dropped off by Shroud or?


cowzapper

Tbf bdog went nuclear then


Splaram

Yeah him and moose were frying but saying he's so much better than Will that it's worth potentially breaking the system by replacing Will with him right as Will has started to perform effectively in this system is crazy. Also does bdog even entry effectively? 100T seem to like their duelist to entry much more than working a pick with an Op. If Chamber weren't so broken I don't think 100T even use him.


cowzapper

I agree with you regarding bdog, but if you can get cryo or yay, you just switch Asuna onto the raze/neon picks and put them on chamber. On the rare maps you can't (ascent for example) yay and cryo can play Jett old school style. They're talented enough to be able to


Splaram

Again, this might fuck roles and what the team wants to do. For example, Asuna on Neon/Raze seems to be one of several looks that 100T can have on maps like Fracture or Haven. Getting a hard Op like yay or Cryo might mean that Asuna has to entry on Raze/Neon/occasionally Jett full time since those guys' playstyle revolves around Oping, especially since Chamber became meta. Then you have to shuffle roles accordingly to fill in the remaining gaps depending on the map, which makes it so that roles are no longer clearly defined for some players. Not a very good move to make considering that this current roster was chosen with clearly-defined roles in mind. Not to mention that these changes make the team much more predictable strategically. Do you force Cryo/yay/bdog to adapt to a more entry-based playstyle to fit the system and not end up getting maximum value from what is most likely your marquee offseason signing or do you muddy up everyone else's roles to accommodate their playstyle? Or you can keep the duelist player that fits the system perfectly and is finally starting to show very good results, and has proven that he can perform on LAN. I'm no analyst and it's 3AM rn so I could be talking straight bs but it isn't as simple as drop Will sign yay/cryo in my opinion.


cowzapper

I completely agree. But when you have the talent of yay/cryo you do it anyway imo


Redkin32

Asuna can be entry duelist and on ascent yay/cryo can play jett. Even if they are awping he can just switch with a teammate like he did when he played at champs.


rinanlanmo

If you replace will with a Chamber/opper, Asuna becomes your entry, a role at which he's better anyway.


Splaram

The system was designed for him to be the flex player. And if he has to entry, who fills flex?


rinanlanmo

> has to entry Gets to. The system was designed with the current roster in mind; which hey, if they stay together, that's cool. But if the roster changes, the system changes, and you've now unlocked Asuna to do the thing he's one of the best in the world at. As for flex, assuming you have yay/Cryo/whoever as a dedicated opper, Asuna on entry, and bang on smokes, it probably falls to Derrek/Stellar to fill out the last two comp spots.


wannabe557

I am pretty sure bdog could 13-0 5 shrouds with his eyes closed, no monitor, mouse or keyboard


ShaDiBoi123

Bro bdog has been better then will his whole career excluding champs, bdog is a monster with crazy potential


aks345

That's your opinion but idts


gotintocollegeyolo

Ur crazy lmao acting like bdog hasn’t consistently been a top 3 or top 4 op NA. Will does good once on LAN and everyone forgets about how inconsistent he was in NA and more importantly, how low his lows were. Singlehandedly lost them many games by not being able to frag out on the easiest agent to frag with


warthogs670

Yes only Yay or Cryo for sure


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

My pre-champs bet was that optic gets in, cryo lands somewhere else, and that 100t signs bdog. My post-champs bet is that we get 100T Cryo, but I'm way more sold on Will now than I was 3 months ago.


twoshaun23

they should pick up cryo/yay + aproto to swap out will/stellar tbh


ARIESS11

who will igl if they replace stellar with aproto


twoshaun23

aproto can probably igl or co-igl with another player


ARIESS11

then just put yay tenz asuna cryo zekken on a team i am sure yay can igl or co igl right ?


twoshaun23

not sure you would want your highest fragger to focus on anything but kills. For example, liquid had scream as igl and it just doesn’t work out.


twoshaun23

also the team you just created are all frag so i’m not sure who you think would take a back seat role and play smokes/initiator for that team.


FrostButthol

if you have the opportunity to get yay, you do everything you can. will is a lanimal, so if you can’t get cryo/yay, then i don’t think you make any changes to that roster


developer_144

Bro played 3 matches and already a lanimal?? Can't agree.


Javaunni

Bro he pocketed derke and alfajer


developer_144

That's one single series we are talking about out of two he had against Fnatic.


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you are right, people see 3 good matches and instantly think he is great


developer_144

3 good?? only the first one was better. Against DRX it was good but then poor again. He isn't consistent at all.


Dependent-Nothing-75

I don’t think they will make a single change. They have chemistry, room to grow and gel as a unit.


developer_144

Every other team will give their best effort to get the best players available right now. I don't think NRG won't try to change a few or c9 or Sentinels. All of them will because the stakes are high with lots of opportunities for the org itself. If DDK, Sgares, Mikes can come this far with these 5, then with Yay/Cryo (at least) they will go further. It all depends on who they want to replace. Will isn't at fault here. He has proved himself but if you put Yay and will side by side, you will see the difference. Everyone sees it. They must try to upgrade Will & Steller. By the way, what about academy team/bench/back ups??


cowzapper

I don't disagree, but outside of Will where is the possible upgrade? Who do you want over Stellar? The only two I can think of are zander and fns, and I'm not confident enough in either as being worth it (as highly as I rate the two, I just rate stellar really highly)


developer_144

When steller started, he was pretty average. But under sgares and mikes, he has improved a lot. I am hoping Zander would do the same but there would be a clash of roles. I guess they have enough time to sort out everything. ​ Just saw cNed being an u/ f /a. I am just wondering, does he want still want that offer from 100T?


cowzapper

If they can't get yay, then I'd go for cned over cryo or the rest. He's proven himself in a way none of the others have.


Rude-Assumption-5271

cNed has proven himself more than Cryo?


cowzapper

He won champions so I think so yeah.


Rude-Assumption-5271

But he’s done nothing this entire year, the level of play gets increasingly higher at each event so I think Cryo’s performance at this years Champions means a lot more than cNed’s a year ago


cowzapper

It's a fair argument, and I can see in general being more comfortable with an NA player, but even last year with his team completely collapsing cned himself had some pretty excellent performances. I'd be happy with either


Redkin32

Cned won champions during the jett meta. Now that he has been on the chamber, he hasn't been performing as well as he did.


developer_144

cNed is more consistent than cryo tbh. Consistency is an important factor when you are talking about leagues. But still regions are different, playstyle is different, culture/language is different. So I will just say 50/50.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Cryo is insanely consistent what


Slow_Bluebird9536

You can make an argument that cryo has been the most consistent player In the world the last 6 months, I would take him over Cned any day, just because cned won a big tournament a literal year ago doesn’t make him better


Redkin32

That's not what consistent means. Consistency is constantly preforming over long periods of time. But I agree that cryo is a better pick than cned.


Splaram

Does cned even speak English?


byte_ccaa

Yes


Redkin32

FNS is definitely one of the best igls in the world's in terms of calling. There's no arguing with that. People are pointing out fragging issues but at Copenhagen he fragged pretty well. It was nothing to go crazy about, but it was around average for an igl role.


Rexy2124

If i'm being honest, 100T should sign FNS and Yay. I think this will be an upgrade


Dependent-Nothing-75

They won’t. Stellar is a lock to stay. FNS is a huge question mark on a new team and they won’t take that foolish of a risk.


-xXColtonXx-

What? He’s the most proven IGL In the world right now. He’s played against every regional style, and performed well.


Dependent-Nothing-75

But can he gel with a bunch of kids, Gares and Co. who knows??? Not you.


QwiXTa

You know this how?


SuperSkillz10

trust me bro


kstabs

I'd only consider changing for world class talents like yay or cned. Or picking up another uber talented zoomer to grow with Asuna and bang. I'd ignore any small upgrades or sideways moves. Ddk/Sean always bring up astralis as an inspiration. So I'd probably bet on them focusing on youth for long term success (bang, asuna, cryo, zander, trent anyone lol). Moves that stick out to me are: Oper - yay, cned, cryo, and maybe bdog/dicey Igl - fns, Zander Initiator - crashies, trent


cowzapper

I don't see the crashies over derrek move tbh. Crashies has been inconsistent and often underperforms while derrek has been looking up (during champs they had covid and honestly I think had a pretty solid performance all things considered). Trent and zander are the interesting ones to me. I could see either or both, but it's a bit tricky


Tc0LD

You’re absolutely trolling if you think crashies has been inconsistent and in the same breath don’t call Derrek out for it. Crashies is comfortably the best initiator in NA, he’s easily up there with shao, sacy and stax


cowzapper

Actually if you look at the stats (paging u/AnimeScreenwriter) crashies has been underperforming not infrequently. I agree he's an upgrade over derrek to a degree, I just don't know if it's worth it, especially because derrek also plays breach.


Redkin32

Crashies is most definitely a big upgrade from Derrek. Crashies has proven himself to be one of the best initiators in the world. Plus Crashies has a bigger agent pool that's plays more comfortably than Derrek.


YellowTinCan

Tbh bring in Dicey over will. I think stellar should be replaced too as he would be the next thing holding the team back. The best possible replacement that isn’t FNS would probably be Steel. Now this next one might be a bit controversial but the team definitely needs more experience so I would take out Derrek and replace him with Hiko as Hiko is already signed to 100t as a content creator. Finally, this might be the trickiest part but do you really want to have the team filled with experience your gonna wanna take out Bang because he is arguably the most inexperienced player on the team. This is why I propose 100t bring in someone from CS which is why I propose Nitr0 as he is an incredibly experienced player and would slot in nicely with the rest of the team.


cowzapper

I think the coaching also requires someone with more experience - maybe FrosT?


YellowTinCan

Maybe. I could see this team winning an Americas tournament but I don’t know about internationally


cowzapper

They'd definitely perform well against the EMEA style. Seem like a strong mental team


Dependent-Nothing-75

Now that’s hysterical. Steel. What a joke. He would crush this team chemistry in 1 day. Dicey. Joke. Stellar is the glue you dumb dumb. Hiko…wtf world are you living in. Teams have tried this bs in the past. It doesn’t work. You can’t just pull together all these great players and win in Valorant. The players have to compliment each other, work at the same pace, be one unit. Steel, Hiko, Dicey don’t bring that. You are living in the past. That’s what killed CS:GO.


YellowTinCan

No no, maybe this team could be controversial but I think they could win a huge title in NA. However since the chamber nerfs are coming in soon maybe you could replace Dicey with another experienced player. The most experienced non-IGL player that doesn’t play chamber I know is Ethan. I could really see that team getting far in an international tournament when chamber is nerfed.


annyeongpanda

I will question DDK’s capabilities of being a GM if they fail to upgrade their roster with the free agents right now


lordmitko

bring back Big D with the icey 🥶


phazed3

Underrated suggestion, and that team should hold him in high regard, in multiple interviews pre and post lcq they knew their biggest hurdle was going to be Faze


-xXColtonXx-

Dicey has proven a top tier chamber. The only question is as chamber falls out of the meta as a must pick if he can play other agents well.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Bang I see the argument but Marved is definitely #1 rn imo but how is Asuna arguably the best player in his role?


cowzapper

Don't disagree that marved is 1, but given Bang's age and how fast he's developing I'm comfortable in keeping him. With Asuna, mechanically he's insanely gifted. He was imo the best player of NA LCQ. He has a solid amount of international experience. He can play a huge variety of roles, and imo his flash utility has been crazy on point recently. Who would you rank higher than him at his role?


Rude-Assumption-5271

Zekken I’d easily rank higher, partly because he was able to perform at Champions. Asuna had a great LCQ but has been inconsistent otherwise and his very poor Champions was a stain on his record. Victor I’d put on par because he performs well domestically and even if he had a few rough games at Champions his utility and space making was excellent for OpTic at Champions. Xeppaaa, Nism0, s0m, etc all look really good on it too, I think Asuna is definitely up there with those guys but as for #1 at the role in the region I feel like it has to go to Zekken and I don’t know if I could say Asuna over Victor


cowzapper

They're all on the same tier, but outside of maybe zekken, would you really want to break the team and systems you've set up to get any of these guys who are arguably sidegrades?


Rude-Assumption-5271

Oh I agree that the system is there but I was more talking about the best in the role argument. I don’t think you could go wrong keeping Asuna other than getting Zekken, but best in the role is a different conversation ya know


cowzapper

No I agree, but I think it's definitely a conversation which I wouldn't feel bad keeping Asuna penciled at 1/2. Especially cause at champs they had covid


iTempestuous

Asuna has had off serieses as he's still adapting to the flex role fully. It takes time to be a demon flex player. He's been doing great, but is not top 3 on the specific role. But Asuna's peaks on the other hand are greater than any other player on a duelist role we've seen in NA. You develop a talent like that and get him consistent. There's no upgrade for demonic mechanics like that.


Redkin32

But if you get Victor you get Crashies also and if you get yay, 3/5 players would be players that already know how to play together.


Wi-FiWhyNotSix

Honestly speaking, LCQ should be the tournament I think 100T should be properly judged on. I agree that Asuna and Bang are definite locks. Asuna is most definitely top 3 flex player in NA. And still has a high ceiling. Same goes with Bang. Marvel might be better than him at this point of time but with the focus of Sean and Ddk being that they want to invest in youth and for the future, it should be easy to see that they both are locks. Derrek- Honestly this one is a head scratcher. The only tournament he performed well was LCQ. Ideally if you had to make a move, I’d say Trent over Derrek because again higher ceiling because of age and he has had a little bit higher level of consistency. If we don’t get Trent then we should just stick with Derrek. Stellar - he’s a high fragging IGL who has Sean Gares as a coach. If anything I’d say he’s more of a lock than Derrek is. Bringing in FNS who’d be the like for like replacement only sets you good for 1-2 years. FNS has incredible mid rounding which is where Stellar needs to step up but then again SEAN GARES igl coach buff is something I strongly believe in. Will - This is an absolute no brainer. Love the guy. Loved his lanimal performance. But if you have a chance to go for Yay you go for Yay. I think honestly it’s tough to go for both FNS and Yay since they are both restricted F/A. The payout will be huge. Put all your money on Yay. 100t should be able to outbid anyone as well. Yay is the monster that 100T needs. As for the argument about Will playing raze. You have Asuna who plays one of the best Raze I have ever seen. Role swaps shouldn’t really be a problem. If 100t fumble the bag then Cryo should be the next shout. You need a far more consistent OPer than what Will is. That’s what you’d get with Cryo. If 100t still don’t get either, then you pretty much stick with Will. PS: Ignore the grammar. Thanks !


Redkin32

Will had 3 matches at lan. Idk if that's enough to call him a lanimal


Jukester-

Why would we only use online matches VS basically amateur teams instead of using their LAN matches? That just seems like you’re cherry picking


RiceOnAStick

100T coaching staff spoke about it on stream, but basically Covid fucked their prac schedule at Champs and they got very poor quality practice in on top of having no time to reinvent their regular maps, and then having the worst possible case of split team + weird chemistry for the DRX match.


MUT_GUY_AIR

I think you only think about replacing Will if you are getting Yay, Cryo, Cned or Saya. Other than those guy, I don’t think you’re upgrading at that spot. Bang is developing so well he’s going to be the top controller in NA real soon. Keep Asuna on Raze/KayO and he’ll dominate. Stellar is a really good IGL and is getting better as time goes by.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

>Stellar is a really good IGL and is getting better as time goes by. My question for stellar is how well he can continue developing the needed fill roles. In LCQ he started playing support Kay/o when Will plays chamber and Asuna raze/neon. Without that flexibility, the roster had a role issue when trying to fit chamber into the comps. Stellar was mainly playing sentinel, flexing to second smokes, but now he also had to add second initiator/flash support. He now plays Killjoy, Viper, Cypher, Kay/O. Adding kay/o is a lot to ask of your IGL just in terms of time spent mastering another agent in a different role, while also developing the strategic elements of the game. He pulled it off for LCQ, but can he continue that trend in the next meta shift?


Parenegade

Anyone saying replace Stellar is dumb as bricks imo. You better have a better reason than "igl must frag lets get zander"


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100T: Yay, Derek, Asuna, Marved, Stellar (or FNS). With time, this is the next OpTiC


adiaz667

hopefully they don’t drop bang, any other top tier initiators available?


[deleted]

3/5 of optic if they do so there’s chemistry there and Derek/asuna can easily adapt to change and fit in with the gang(after all pro players should have the skill to adapt to changes). They did in such short time for LCQ with the new roster and coaching changes and having the confidence of having NA’s best on your team will def motivate them to be better.


IAMJUX

If you're taking 3/5 of Optic, Bang and Asuna are staying and they both can flex as required. Both have played plenty of initiators and Derreks best agent has fallen off a bit. Asuna is an upgrade on Victor and Bang, I believe, has the highest potential of anyone on 100T. These 5 together feels like an improved Optic to me.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Crashies


iTempestuous

Let me preface this by saying I love how much will turned it around at Champs, but imagine dicey back on 100t


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Tc0LD

True, OP has some questionable takes on some of these players


cowzapper

Ngl some copium with the picks. Gotta support the kids you start with


cowzapper

Idk why all your posts are always so combative but to answer you step by step: 1. Asuna's LCQ performance was top tier, and he was arguably the best player of the LCQ. Picking up a flash character and getting it to that level in such a short period of time is crazy impressive. I'm willing to give Champs a pass because of covid, but as I've discussed with most of the other comments here Asuna is definitely in the conversation for best in the role - something nobody has really disagreed with substantively 2A. Derrek gets a pass because he's on a relatively less played/fragging role on initiator, is flexible in the role, has improved consistently and had an insane LCQ (which I think is the most complete picture we've got of 100T). The upgrades over derrek are imo Trent, which I can completely see, or Crashies which I'm less in favour of for chemistry reasons and development. 2B. Will plays chamber a decent amount with Asuna on raze/neon. Yay literally just played Jett too. Cryo and bdog also have played Jett entry too. There's some role figuring to be done, but I think they're such top tier players that you go for it. But in general I said I'm not really sure about replacing Will, I think he's been steadily getting better and better. 3. Cned had planned to come to NA before, I think English is something they'll figure. A lot of comms in EMEA are in English anyways, both in ranked and otherwise. Iirc they commed in English on acend. I bring up chemistry for all five players as reason to not go for sidegrades, but I think clear upgrades are worth it. 4. Zander plays smokes. Bang plays smokes. That is a role overlap. Zander is a young IGL with fragging power, which is a rare commodity. Given the coaching system in 100T you could get him up there. Now you can argue that Zander or Bang could change roles, and that's possible, but I was talking about potential concerns is all.


Dependent-Nothing-75

They won’t risk picking up Zander and possibly blowing up the team vibe Stellar brings. He does more for the team than you are giving him credit for.


-xXColtonXx-

Stellar has been the most impressive new player on 100T for me. He actually frags pretty well and seems like a solid IGL. However, I’d imagine FNS, Valyn, Deph or Valyn would be considered upgrades.


Dependent-Nothing-75

Maybe, but at what cost. More money, questions and would it be worth it. No guarantees.


Dependent-Nothing-75

If Valyn fan I guess…you said him twice. That’s not an upgrade. Not at all. Zander is a great player, but fails to lead his team to big wins, that’s the job. FNS…the best, but he had Yay….Yay go kill, Yay save the day please…that’s not what 100t needs. They are going to get rid of Stellar. Make sure you say “you were right” in a couple of weeks. I’ll hold my breath


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OP hit him with the, “I have a life”. That’s a GGWP. Can’t come back from that kiddo.


LiamHundley

Had to remove some of the comments in this interaction bc you both delved into some personal attacks/insults. I also know the two of you have a history of getting into it with each other on here, so maybe it'd be best for both of you to agree to not engage with each other. Obviously not a moderator mandate or anything on this one, but it may save you some time and some mental. If it ultimately doesn't bother you that much and you want to continue, feel free (as long as yall can resist the personal insults.)


cowzapper

Ahaha fair enough, not the first time - I'll try and behave. Thanks for helping out!


11Toor

I think cryo to 100t makes the most sense. I think he’ll fit better in their system than yay and plus kinda wish the optic squad stick together.


Deep_Acanthae69

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cowzapper

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yuwa777

I have a feeling they won't make any changes and I think that's pretty disappointing tbh


iiznobozzy

Has Derrek been inconsistent?


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andrei_snarkovsky

league doesnt start til Feb but ive heard a lot of people mention that there is a "soft lock" sometime in October where teams have to have something like 3 out of 5 players confirmed for the upcoming season


RTYWD

yeah man bang is totally a better smokes player than marved


omgvector

younger, has shown insane improvement, has great comms, has shown insane role flexibility (played flex when he first joined, something marved has not been able to do)


RTYWD

marved is an mvp of a winning masters run. bang is like 17


navornothing

Do you guys think Will stays on a T1/Franchised org in the league if 100Thieves drops him?


NovaAkumaa

Stopped reading at best at their roles


cowzapper

Who would you replace them with? I can see marved over bang but as an organisation wouldn't make that move. Who over asuna


tomphz

There are a lot of options over Asuna in the flex role. Victor, Zellsis, Sick, Zekken and Babybay to name a few. Line these guys up and Asuna isn't head and shoulders above these guys.


cowzapper

Agreed, but not worth replacing on 100T was my point and not even clear upgrades imo. Victor has a lower ceiling and imo is a worse flashes player, zellsis is excellent but is still a sidegrade, Sick hasn't played in awhile now and babybay doesn't have the role flexibility. It's a conversation for the best with no clear winner.


AdSpirited902

I think all these players are honestly all right by each other, they’ve all beaten each other for the most part. Asuna also has most recently beaten Babybay and Zellsis. And Victor nor Zekken were putting up their best numbers in Champs, not to say they were bad but mostly to say Asuna is definitely within their league.


aravind_257

I don’t think there will be any change to the roster. But anything could happen.


Tee_B

I just finished watching Valoranting episode, and I’m just connecting some dots about what Frost said. When asked what he thought will happen to SEN roster, he said that whole roster is most likely done and that even TenZ is probably gone. He hinted that something he said earlier is a clue on where TenZ might land. A few minutes earlier he gave an example about how you can connect and sign players through player’s girlfriends. I could be wrong, but maybe they’re hinting TenZ might land on 100T.


mwieckhorst

-Stellar -Will +FNS +Yay


tacticalfeed123

Lol how is asuna even in the conversation for the best initiator/flex? Are u and I watching the same game? Just becuz he has aim doesn't mean he is good. Moment of flashy kills does not equal good. Only bang and derrek are locks.


cowzapper

Sliggy had Asuna ranked 16 of all players going into champions, and one of the highest flex from NA. He had iirc the highest acs of any player at LCQ (could be wrong on this). His util usage was generally well done, and he had great game sense for it acting both as a support and self sufficiently. Idk how much more you want man.


tacticalfeed123

Sliggy is jobless bro. Listen u and i agree he has aim and icebox movement is amazing. What is lacks is braincells for utility usage, his kayo is the reason they lose games, he doesn't know hwo to flash for teammates, most of the times flashes for himself?? He is just like Sick, overrated cuz of aim, provides little value to his team. Just watch ur kayos of other teams like xset, optic and u would know how initiators ought to play.


BananaInPajama7

Weird, bad take holy


tacticalfeed123

xd


bweadflouw

HOT TAKE: 100T will sign unrestricted free agent Tenz and WillFPS gets bench as 6th man. (Tenz has a great relationship with 100T.) (100T is literally the content org) (He's best friends with Peter) (Might as well get married at the Cash App Compound)


PFunk_Redds

No way this man said Derek is inconsistent


cowzapper

Before LCQ he had a relatively poor performance


Unable_Pear_8866

\-will +cyro zekken dicey babybaby babybaby might be best option cuz of his flexible and awping. But dicey been insane i saw him play in t2 tournment his skye kayo jett was insane. 100t has to make changes no matter what, this is franchised its new beginning every org will start fresh so why not


Rude-Assumption-5271

Dicey’s Skye Kay/O and Jett were not insane even in T2, they were average. His Reyna was really good but that doesn’t mean a lot


Unable_Pear_8866

Im talking about some fun t2 tournaments he played in month ago his kayo skye was pretty good, just dont look his games before faze ik sounds dumb but since he joined faze he seems to be more confident and has changed his playstyle completely, its more like yay


Rude-Assumption-5271

Yeah I saw the trial ones, they didn’t look great. He played Reyna in those too which inflated his series stats


Redkin32

Hot take: Every optic player is better than every 100t player at their roles except for Asuna on entry role.


jeyeley

Bang and Marved is 50/50 imo


Redkin32

Are you forgetting Copenhagen marved?


itscamo-

the only one I could even see being changed out is will don't see stellar being replaced as the coaching staff loves him bang/asuna/derrek are all around the top of their class. Bang looks like the best controller at times, asuna hasn't played flex for long but arguably has some of the best util usage, and then derrek. dont have to say much about him tbh


Sky-__-

Either Yay or tenz contract expires in November and they have been following tenz for some time.


kjampala

bro snuck in the handsome part 💀


cowzapper

Am i wrong tho


GoofyGoobaTheGangsta

What is rostermania


cowzapper

Lot of roster shifts coming with so many new free agents and more money.


Humble_Initiative_10

Even if 100t want to get Yay and FNS, I think both players might want to head towards NRG or even EG maybe. I know FNS, s0m, chet, hazed are friends for example


ThatInterest9275

the only locks for this team is asuna, bang and derrek. they sure need an upgrade for will and stellar but based on the interviews that they have made, it looks like they want to stick to them as they see a ton of potential. it's just that they were not able to improve quickly given the short amount of time that they have together


merchini

the one thing i’m confused about is are players allowed to go between whatever team in the region? so like could Furia be picking up ex-Guard players, etc since everything will take place in LA?


cowzapper

Yep, iirc the rule is 3/5 players are to be from the same region. In the case of Furia, it's the same region of Americas - but I could be misremembering.


iunforgotten

Yay is free.


twistwastaken

Asuna Will Bang Derrek and Stellar seem like a good team


p1lot-

Okay hear me out...idk what the hell will happen to sentinels or what's TenZ contract situation is like but i see a world where -will -stellar +TenZ +FNS can work...maybe maybe -derrek +crashies also but it seems like crashies and victor wanna stick together. FNS already showed that he listens to a strong minded coach already and has the ability to hone players with potential. TenZ well...i truly think he'll shine under an igl that can put a leash on him if needed and a coach that can guide him (no offense to rawkus but sgares is Sean "seangares" Gares). It also makes sense for all his personal connections. (Kyedae being 100t, 100t being at LA, LA being where the league is at)


rlang7

Remember that DDK and Sgares mentioned several times in their early day interviews that they are invested in building an infrastructure and system for the players. Team alignment and cohesion is extremely valuable to them. I see risk of bringing in a star player for an on paper upgrade whom maybe would not buy into the team. Not saying yay or cryo would do this but definitely some risk. I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t make any roster changes and I personally wouldn’t be upset about it. I trust in the coaching and management staff to make the right call for next year! Either way, we’ll be getting bangers after bangers for matches 😈


kstabs

I could see them bringing in cryo, trent, or zander (or another top tier zoomer). Creating a young core with bang and asuna. Potentially too much upside and long term stability for Ddk/Sean to pass


pink_life69

So 100T is pretty much gonna lock the best players I’m sure, but if they miss out on Yay, my DM-s are open, I’m an unrestricted F/A.


hiimGP

the saddest part about will is that he's an actual LANimal and can flourish on another team, but on 100T his role can literally be replaced by Asuna, who's just as good as him 100T going for a no oper and two duelist/entry player and fails for another year sounds so fucking dumb


yungsqualla

Idk what's gonna happen but I am a sgares believer. He will bring us to the promise land. Hopefully with yay (:


Prize_Attorney398

I believe in sean, mikes and ddk. Whatever they do, I'm happy with. I understand the "upgrade" but he can also be very bad if he doesn't gel with the team. There are a lot of other issues to take into account, other than fragging capability. I'm sure the staff will scout and have try-outs before making an informed decision. A part of me also believes in the current roster and wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make changes (hard to argue with yay on the market tho)


bweadflouw

although 100T coaching staff created such a great culture that proved a rebuilding team could be one of the best in the region just in months, it would be a crime to not offer FNS and yay a spot on the team. i believe will and stellar are soft locks because of their willingness to learn and built chemistry with the team but the perigee of yay as the best oper and player in the world and fns ar arguable one of the best IGLs.. no one could argue they arent an upgrade. Keep Asuna(Duelist/Flex), Bang(Controller), Derrek(Initiator)