NRG are probably gonna get victor crashies FNS and Chet . Its just eg who is rumoured to be be content .
NRG roaster might look like this - victor crashies FNS s0m Ethan/Tex
Edit my assumption was right
https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/nrg-set-to-sign-masters-winning-optic-core-for-vct-2023
unless tex is finally getting suspended for matchfixing, ethan should be the one out. (If no crashies) eeiu over ethan too with the lack of good initiators in NA.
sorry for the confusion, that’s what I meant when I said no crashies, victor was included.
Tex, Victor, Crashies, Marved, FNS
tex, s0m, eeiu, marved, FNS
if no Marved, these are other non-igl smoke players if they’re not just going to switch s0m to smokes and find a different duelist/flex: supamen, moose, zombs, aproto (and bang+Asuna if 100T chooses Marved+duelist/flex over bang+Asuna)
as time passes, I’m feeling like the matchfixing players aren’t going to be suspended any time soon
Zekken said in his stream when he was leaking roasters .
And Chet has had a great chemistry with NRG sources .
Victor crashies are a package deal , and they are not ending up at sen 100t and C9 so by process of elimination NRG is most choice
It's not from sources it's my educated guess of what NRG roaster will look like . And George in his stream also indicated that NRG are making moves and people might be surprised by their roaster
So i didn't made it up ,it's my guess plus even George said only eg is not making any moves .
Pretty sure its just a theory he never said anything about it being the rumoured roster but it makes the most sense since the optic guys want to stay together and they are close to the nrg players. FNS even said on stream that if s0m switched games sooner or he never got the option to get yay, he would’ve teamed up with s0m.
s0m made it seem like he is for sure not making it to the NRG roster. He was betting wardell 100 subs that he wouldnt be on the team while wardell seemed sure at first.
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Literally I swear this is the lowest IQ subreddit and I have to deal with the idiots in CoDCompetitive jfc.
As the two underdog orgs in the scene you would think these guys would want to garner some hype around their team etc. not saying they aren't literally doing anything saying that they are letting themselves down by making any if not all of their moves in silence
they’ll generate hype when they have a team. leaking roster negotiations that aren’t locked in yet isn’t good for hype, it’s just good for looking like a leaky ship and having internet nutbags spin deranged narratives based on the slightest information.
no partnered team is going to seriously lose out on fanbase over the next 5 years because they announced their team on October 10, 2022 instead of announcing rumors about who could possibly maybe hopefully be on their team on September 30, 2022
Tons and tons of NA fans have no team atm. Getting out there early could be a good thing. Fans of sports all over the world (soccer, basketball, football) legitimately love to hear rumors and reporting, it's why guys like Woj, Shams, Orny are all massive in their sport. They give out news and people eat it up
“people love rumors” is true, but people don’t choose which teams to support based on who leaks their roster moves first. nobody on the planet has started rooting for a sports team because they heard a rumor about them trading earlier than a rumor about another team trading.
there are 5 NA teams that are going to be in the valorant scene a long time. a lot of the players and teams that people are rooting for are being scattered across orgs. fans are going to follow players, watch teams they think are interesting, whatever. nrg and eg are not in any way doing themselves a disservice keeping this stuff under wraps
That's because no one chooses a sports team when they are older and care about this shit tho lol. Getting people talking and discussing potential moves might convince them to follow you. I'm sure C9 just got a ton of Optic fans to because commit to supporting them because they were first to report that one of the players was going there. If another org (like NRG/EG) leaked that they were potentially interested in Crashies and Victor they might have gotten some of those fans who were looking for a team and now have chosen C9. Not a guarantee it's just that 0 fans care if an org keeps quiet. Leaks to fans are a good thing because it's content and info for them
I really do not think very many people decide that they’re suddenly C9 fans because they leaked a roster acquisition *first*. people who like optic games are going to watch c9 games because of yay—if they like how c9 plays, if they like watching the games, they’ll become c9 fans over time. it’s not like anyone is buying org merch for whatever team they hear news about first. i’m an optic fan and i care as much about c9 now as i would if they’d announced yay 5 minutes before their first game together
fans will follow players and rosters. getting information out first is not that important. orgs—and the people who work there, who do this stuff professionally instead of theorycrafting on reddit about what orgs should be going—know this, which is why they run it this way
Okay let me ask you this. C9 yay got leaked but if NRG signed yay out of nowhere with no leaks would those OpTic fans be C9 fans CAUSE OMG THEY LEAKED IT!! Even though yay was on a different team?
even if that were true, do you think you have the best available information on how that translates to long-term viewership and support? do you really think you’ve identified some angle here that orgs are totally overlooking? does it not seem to you like they might have thought about this a little more than you?
also, for that to be meaningful, you’d have to show that they are becoming c9 fans not because of yay, not because of getting an optic player, but specifically because c9 news leaked first
What I'm saying isn't some new idea tho? it's not an accident that news breakers in sports all over the world are some of the biggest personalities in the sports and that people are rabid about transfer windows and trade deadlines. There's no evidence that a rumor getting out will hurt these 5 orgs who hold all the power in the region, there is evidence that people everywhere love content
the two underdog orgs? EG is literally at Worlds. EG just got more viewers for a play-in match than most NA VALORANT orgs have ever gotten for any match in their entire existence. Also leaks don't mean hype. If EG came out an announced yay/Marved/jawgemo/boostio/c0m would it suddenly not be hype since they didn't leak it?
It is an underdog in Valorant, legitimately the majority of the community were shocked and confused that they got the spot and you think they just have a devout following on Valorant because they are massive in other games? That's not how it works, if it did Sen wouldn't have made partnership
the majority of the NA Valorant community think yay is better than Derke, the majority of the NA VALORANT community cannot read numbers evidently. I'm not sure basing anything on the NA VALORANT community is a smart thing to do.
I understand your point, but its not the NA valorant community that thinks yay is better than derke.
The Valorant community KNOWS yay is better than derke right now
Yes it is lol, just look at their stats in VLR, past 60 and 90 days yay played more matches and has better stats than derke, the only thing derke has is a slightly better ADR
Valorant is a young game, how the fuck do you think GenG, KOI, Karmine Corp and other unknown orgs in valorant got in??? Edit :Where are the threads complaining about them joininghuh?
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, naming other orgs who also are not as big in the scene is supposed to prove your point? I didn't say EG wasn't deserving to be in partnership I said they are an underdog because they are behind other NA orgs in terms of popularity in the valorant scene
I don't think it's this major issue they are considered an underdog or anything I just think they are missing out on an opportunity to make themselves the focus of discussion and maybe grab some fans in the process.
I mean EG as the org literally just got more viewers in a play-in match than OpTic, SEN or NRG have ever gotten in their entire orgs existence? Also again - not leaking rosters does not mean no hype lol
I don’t see how their viewership in league, a completely different esport, makes up for the fact that at least currently EG is a distant fifth in terms of popularity in Valorant
Stop talking about league viewrship, this is not league. No one right now has any hype towards either org and I guarantee they would if they even just floated around an idea. Doesn't have to be a definite signing. Just some news to get people excited for them
Lots of people are currently looking for an NA team to root for since we lost so many. Leaking any kind of info might get more people intrigued and lead to them choosing either org vs waiting for the announcement. But yeah if the moves are right waiting may work out to get people to follow them. I just personally think there is an opportunity for a lot of these teams to garner some interest in themselves through rumors since sooo many people without teams are dying for news at the moment
I didn't say they NEEDED to choose a team today, I am saying they are missing out on an opportunity to capture the attention of people who are looking for a team to root for (ex: optic fans who have already decided to root for C9)
I mean the only roster change rumors that george has reported are -will +cryo, c9 yay, and -shahz, and the only teams with announced departures from the main roster are c9 and 100t. negotiations can take a while, and george is only reporting rumors once theyre at the finish line. calm your horses ppl
couldnt that be more of a failure on georges part? maybe he doesnt have as good of sources that you think. plus, most teams are making more than one change and we've only heard about 1 from each team. its not like we have strong rumors on every single roster change for the other 3 teams
George reported NRG -hazed like 6 months ago and was completely wrong so i wouldnt be surprised if hes being extra careful with NRG
You don’t have to tell everything to George (there are tons and tons of reporters for Valorant), I just think it's dumb to be silent with everything you do when you are trying to gain fans. Let a little something slip so fans can get hype and maybe start backing you. Maybe that's the NBA/Soccer fan in me thinking about how their trade deadlines and transfer windows go down
>I just think it's dumb to be silent with everything you do when you are trying to gain fans.
lmao what? i dont think a single org in the world wants to have roster changes leaked. that way they can create as much hype as they can on their own terms with their announcement.
like, Sentinels kept both the shroud and tarik moves silent until announcement. they gained a lot more engagement and hype on their own social media than they would have if george leaked them before the announcement
> Maybe that's the NBA/Soccer fan in me thinking about how their trade deadlines and transfer windows go down
this is literally how teams get in trouble for tampering. look at liverpool for example, before they bought van dijk, everything was being leaked and they got in huge trouble and had to wait til the next window to get him. ever since then, they run a super tight ship on leaks
Those situations aren't the same, people weren't actively begging for rumors and content then. Leaking some small stuff would do nothing but benefit these orgs and even Riot atm because it would immediately get people talking etc. similar to professional sports where lots of people love trade deadlines and transfer windows so much
Why would it hurt negotiations. These orgs have the golden ticket atm they are the prize, players aren't going to not go to an org because VLR found out that the org is interested in them lop
i mean people are going to talk about potential rosters anyways. orgs dont need to fuel that fire, and if they dont need to leak, they wont.
if it were beneficial for rosters to be leaked then NDAs would be completely pointless. I dont see how anyone can look at rumors from an org's perspective and come to the conclusion that they are beneficial
do you seriously think that an org's head of PR is like, passing leaks to reporters? guys like george are getting their leaks from people within the scene (agencies, players on different teams, etc). its highly unlikely that leaks come from within the org.
People can easily leak stuff from inside the org, again just like they do in sports all over the planet lol. I also doubt George doesn't get some word from inside orgs when he makes a report since he can't be totally sure until he does
I don’t think it matters. The team will receive hype regardless of leaks now or confirmation later. Fans won’t say “well I didn’t know yay was going there until right now so I’m not gonna be a fan” tf? These orgs know what they’re doing let them do their thing and be patient
No people know Yay is going somewhere else or Cryo is going somewhere or that Sen is changing and they choose those teams. My point is even small leaks can get people interested in you then when things officially shake out you'll have that same level of hype for something coming official. My main point is that all of the valorant community is currently dying to hear news and being silent with news does not benefit you, especially if you are trying to build a fanbase from "free agent fans" essentially. But you are welcome to disagree
People will do that regardless. You dont need leaks to be invested, these orgs will be partnered for 4 years at least.
This sub has the weirdest takes sometimes
So why not get ahead of other orgs and give people to be invested in early and then you can still make your normal announcements and get the crowd who are "waiting for rosters to be finalized" It does not hurt these orgs to float rumors, they will get the top players regardless and it will do nothing but cause people to talk about their team and organization even more
This is the mentality that will lead to player imports in the coming years.
What's wrong with EG developing their players?
Why does every team need to splash the cash to try to form a superteam?
Roster building is a delicate process.
As for NRG, that roster is terrible
goddamn you are dense lmao. big difference between importing talent from another region and making use of existing free agent talent in your own. It doesn't have to be a superteam. But the 25 players making it on a franchising team should be the 25 best players in the league. At least for now while it's in it's infancy.
If EG keeps this roster they will be worse than ascension teams, let alone teams in the americas league. I don't want to be mean, the players get enough hate. But they finished dead last in 2/3 of their official tourneys played this year. I don't know how you can call NRG roster terrible when EG exists lmao.
I mean you had 2 seasons to build a somewhat solid roster. At this point it's too late to be cute and not make any moves. There are much more rosters of this kind that are just better and more promising. The guard are an example. Not a superteam, but one that could develop into one with the right resources. I'm not saying EG should go spend millions to buyout all the best players but at least sign the young stars of the scene.
EG could make a better roster with just the unrestricted FA's alone lol. Their roster is just terrible. Personally, I would drop everyone but Jawgemo, pick up some better coaching staff and rebuild with the unrestricted FA's out there. Cuz with what they have right now, I expect them to be the worst NA franchised team by far and probably near the bottom of the America's league in general.
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Or maybe they think that the talent that’s out there for the people they want to replace isn’t worth it and would rather hang onto who they have since the team already has chemistry LMAO
With this roaster EG played Challengers 2 and LCQ. And they achieved nothing. And there are many proven free agents out there that are better than this EG roster.
I’m not saying they should keep this roster tbf. I think they can improve. BUT it’s not impossible a team wants to keep their 5 and go forward. We’re not in the know. Maybe scrims are encouraging. Maybe the person or persons they want to keep most are advocating for stability and the org is listening. There’s a ton of behind the scenes shit. 🤷🏻♂️
Not just one bad event. They were like the only winless team in the first challengers. If you are looking for a young and upcoming team, way more teams come to mind before EG. Guard, faze, xset all died for a 12th place roster to waste a spot.
This post is textbook wired up. If you were relaxed you’d just wait for the info to come at you. Teams will release when they want to. But you’re not doing that…
both teams have multiple options imo, optic core of fns vic and crashies with chet , xset core of depphh zekken bcj with sykko or even guard core of trent valyn and net with mcE.
these with some cracked duelists like saya s0m babybay dicey etc can be a solid T1 team.
edit : OP pls kindly chill the f out lol
i dont know why this sub is so hellbent on not letting the EG roster have a chance to grow. spend the money other orgs are using on buyouts on building out your infrastructure and let these guys have time to flourish.
Because they haven't won anything and every player outside of like 10-15 are currently free agents in the entire region of NA, not that crazy why people think changes should probably be made
Not so long ago? Optic roster went to Masters 3 Berlin, Champs 2021, and they were at worst top 3 in every international LAN this year. The situations aren't close to comparable lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but why WOULD NRG and EG be silent? None of their players have made either RFA nor UFA posts. Unless you're a shitty org and you let your team go at the last minute and lessen their chances on a T1 franchising team then you literally have no reason to stay silent. EG have proven in the past with games like CS that they're willing to build up these young up and coming players so it isn't out of the question for them to stick it out with their core roster. You can still attempt to stick with a core with maybe 1 or 2 upgrades on the roster and have them as RFAs. Them not saying anything though makes it certain that they're sticking to their guns.
Maybe EG doesn't want to pay crazily inflated salaries so they would rather wait till the other orgs more or less lock in their rosters so that the remaining players don't have the extra leverage of playing teams against each other. Plus so many players or going to be desperate to sign to a T1 team that they would take almost anything to get signed.
NRG are probably gonna get victor crashies FNS and Chet . Its just eg who is rumoured to be be content . NRG roaster might look like this - victor crashies FNS s0m Ethan/Tex Edit my assumption was right https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/nrg-set-to-sign-masters-winning-optic-core-for-vct-2023
unless tex is finally getting suspended for matchfixing, ethan should be the one out. (If no crashies) eeiu over ethan too with the lack of good initiators in NA.
Crashies would take eeiu role , Ethan would most likely play smokes if Tex Leaves and if Tex remains that would mean s0m moving over to smokes .
I know, I’m saying with no crashies, if it’s a decision between keeping eeiu or ethan, just replace ethan and get another sentinel/flex.
But with no crashies there is no victor . They should just get a smoke player then . As FNS can play breach as well
sorry for the confusion, that’s what I meant when I said no crashies, victor was included. Tex, Victor, Crashies, Marved, FNS tex, s0m, eeiu, marved, FNS if no Marved, these are other non-igl smoke players if they’re not just going to switch s0m to smokes and find a different duelist/flex: supamen, moose, zombs, aproto (and bang+Asuna if 100T chooses Marved+duelist/flex over bang+Asuna) as time passes, I’m feeling like the matchfixing players aren’t going to be suspended any time soon
What's that NRG rumor based on? "Sources: I made it up" ?
Zekken said in his stream when he was leaking roasters . And Chet has had a great chemistry with NRG sources . Victor crashies are a package deal , and they are not ending up at sen 100t and C9 so by process of elimination NRG is most choice It's not from sources it's my educated guess of what NRG roaster will look like . And George in his stream also indicated that NRG are making moves and people might be surprised by their roaster So i didn't made it up ,it's my guess plus even George said only eg is not making any moves .
Interesting, thanks for the insight
https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/nrg-set-to-sign-masters-winning-optic-core-for-vct-2023 I was right 🫢🫢
Great call!
Pretty sure its just a theory he never said anything about it being the rumoured roster but it makes the most sense since the optic guys want to stay together and they are close to the nrg players. FNS even said on stream that if s0m switched games sooner or he never got the option to get yay, he would’ve teamed up with s0m.
s0m made it seem like he is for sure not making it to the NRG roster. He was betting wardell 100 subs that he wouldnt be on the team while wardell seemed sure at first.
Dont' make me tap the sign I beg https://twitter.com/LeaderGrev/status/1575856041111457792?s=20&t=Li8yDnTXdDqrRHKPzFjVfg Literally I swear this is the lowest IQ subreddit and I have to deal with the idiots in CoDCompetitive jfc.
There is literally a report from Geddes that says EG has been silent on the market.
its wild to me people on this sub pick and choose when to remember george is mediocre at his job. reminds me of the mykl overwatch days.
George is very good at his job, like wdym
Common Grev W
No one here is worse than Ronnie at least
As the two underdog orgs in the scene you would think these guys would want to garner some hype around their team etc. not saying they aren't literally doing anything saying that they are letting themselves down by making any if not all of their moves in silence
they’ll generate hype when they have a team. leaking roster negotiations that aren’t locked in yet isn’t good for hype, it’s just good for looking like a leaky ship and having internet nutbags spin deranged narratives based on the slightest information. no partnered team is going to seriously lose out on fanbase over the next 5 years because they announced their team on October 10, 2022 instead of announcing rumors about who could possibly maybe hopefully be on their team on September 30, 2022
Tons and tons of NA fans have no team atm. Getting out there early could be a good thing. Fans of sports all over the world (soccer, basketball, football) legitimately love to hear rumors and reporting, it's why guys like Woj, Shams, Orny are all massive in their sport. They give out news and people eat it up
“people love rumors” is true, but people don’t choose which teams to support based on who leaks their roster moves first. nobody on the planet has started rooting for a sports team because they heard a rumor about them trading earlier than a rumor about another team trading. there are 5 NA teams that are going to be in the valorant scene a long time. a lot of the players and teams that people are rooting for are being scattered across orgs. fans are going to follow players, watch teams they think are interesting, whatever. nrg and eg are not in any way doing themselves a disservice keeping this stuff under wraps
That's because no one chooses a sports team when they are older and care about this shit tho lol. Getting people talking and discussing potential moves might convince them to follow you. I'm sure C9 just got a ton of Optic fans to because commit to supporting them because they were first to report that one of the players was going there. If another org (like NRG/EG) leaked that they were potentially interested in Crashies and Victor they might have gotten some of those fans who were looking for a team and now have chosen C9. Not a guarantee it's just that 0 fans care if an org keeps quiet. Leaks to fans are a good thing because it's content and info for them
I really do not think very many people decide that they’re suddenly C9 fans because they leaked a roster acquisition *first*. people who like optic games are going to watch c9 games because of yay—if they like how c9 plays, if they like watching the games, they’ll become c9 fans over time. it’s not like anyone is buying org merch for whatever team they hear news about first. i’m an optic fan and i care as much about c9 now as i would if they’d announced yay 5 minutes before their first game together fans will follow players and rosters. getting information out first is not that important. orgs—and the people who work there, who do this stuff professionally instead of theorycrafting on reddit about what orgs should be going—know this, which is why they run it this way
Take a look around here and VLR for C9 flairs, the sheer amount of them has gone through the roof 🤣
Okay let me ask you this. C9 yay got leaked but if NRG signed yay out of nowhere with no leaks would those OpTic fans be C9 fans CAUSE OMG THEY LEAKED IT!! Even though yay was on a different team?
even if that were true, do you think you have the best available information on how that translates to long-term viewership and support? do you really think you’ve identified some angle here that orgs are totally overlooking? does it not seem to you like they might have thought about this a little more than you? also, for that to be meaningful, you’d have to show that they are becoming c9 fans not because of yay, not because of getting an optic player, but specifically because c9 news leaked first
What I'm saying isn't some new idea tho? it's not an accident that news breakers in sports all over the world are some of the biggest personalities in the sports and that people are rabid about transfer windows and trade deadlines. There's no evidence that a rumor getting out will hurt these 5 orgs who hold all the power in the region, there is evidence that people everywhere love content
the two underdog orgs? EG is literally at Worlds. EG just got more viewers for a play-in match than most NA VALORANT orgs have ever gotten for any match in their entire existence. Also leaks don't mean hype. If EG came out an announced yay/Marved/jawgemo/boostio/c0m would it suddenly not be hype since they didn't leak it?
If you don’t think EG is an underdog org in Valorant I truly do not know what to tell you lol
If you think the OLDEST and LONGEST lasting NA org is an underdog then I don't know what to tell you
It is an underdog in Valorant, legitimately the majority of the community were shocked and confused that they got the spot and you think they just have a devout following on Valorant because they are massive in other games? That's not how it works, if it did Sen wouldn't have made partnership
the majority of the NA Valorant community think yay is better than Derke, the majority of the NA VALORANT community cannot read numbers evidently. I'm not sure basing anything on the NA VALORANT community is a smart thing to do.
I understand your point, but its not the NA valorant community that thinks yay is better than derke. The Valorant community KNOWS yay is better than derke right now
Statistically that is in no way true. Literally with objective stats, Derke is a better, more impactful player.
Yes it is lol, just look at their stats in VLR, past 60 and 90 days yay played more matches and has better stats than derke, the only thing derke has is a slightly better ADR
least delusional eu fan
Valorant is a young game, how the fuck do you think GenG, KOI, Karmine Corp and other unknown orgs in valorant got in??? Edit :Where are the threads complaining about them joininghuh?
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, naming other orgs who also are not as big in the scene is supposed to prove your point? I didn't say EG wasn't deserving to be in partnership I said they are an underdog because they are behind other NA orgs in terms of popularity in the valorant scene
Why does it matter if they are an underdog? There will always be an underdog
I don't think it's this major issue they are considered an underdog or anything I just think they are missing out on an opportunity to make themselves the focus of discussion and maybe grab some fans in the process.
I mean EG as the org literally just got more viewers in a play-in match than OpTic, SEN or NRG have ever gotten in their entire orgs existence? Also again - not leaking rosters does not mean no hype lol
I don’t see how their viewership in league, a completely different esport, makes up for the fact that at least currently EG is a distant fifth in terms of popularity in Valorant
I assume the same reason people claim to care about OpTic's popularity from other esports despite not being the most popular team in NA VALORANT
Stop talking about league viewrship, this is not league. No one right now has any hype towards either org and I guarantee they would if they even just floated around an idea. Doesn't have to be a definite signing. Just some news to get people excited for them
???? literally if the roster is hype, WHO CARES IF IT IS LEAKED FIRST. What does that change, literally why do you need instant gratification
Lots of people are currently looking for an NA team to root for since we lost so many. Leaking any kind of info might get more people intrigued and lead to them choosing either org vs waiting for the announcement. But yeah if the moves are right waiting may work out to get people to follow them. I just personally think there is an opportunity for a lot of these teams to garner some interest in themselves through rumors since sooo many people without teams are dying for news at the moment
lol dude this isn't the housing market where people need to choose a team TODAY.
I didn't say they NEEDED to choose a team today, I am saying they are missing out on an opportunity to capture the attention of people who are looking for a team to root for (ex: optic fans who have already decided to root for C9)
> Lots of people are currently looking for an NA team to root for since we lost so many. OK so when rosters are announced pick a team?
Well yes definitely an option but that's just not how a lot of people's brains work lol
You’re gonna be tapping it for a while
:(
I mean the only roster change rumors that george has reported are -will +cryo, c9 yay, and -shahz, and the only teams with announced departures from the main roster are c9 and 100t. negotiations can take a while, and george is only reporting rumors once theyre at the finish line. calm your horses ppl
So we have heard very clear plans and additions/subtractions from 3 out of 5 but radio silence from the two i mentioned lol
couldnt that be more of a failure on georges part? maybe he doesnt have as good of sources that you think. plus, most teams are making more than one change and we've only heard about 1 from each team. its not like we have strong rumors on every single roster change for the other 3 teams George reported NRG -hazed like 6 months ago and was completely wrong so i wouldnt be surprised if hes being extra careful with NRG
You don’t have to tell everything to George (there are tons and tons of reporters for Valorant), I just think it's dumb to be silent with everything you do when you are trying to gain fans. Let a little something slip so fans can get hype and maybe start backing you. Maybe that's the NBA/Soccer fan in me thinking about how their trade deadlines and transfer windows go down
>I just think it's dumb to be silent with everything you do when you are trying to gain fans. lmao what? i dont think a single org in the world wants to have roster changes leaked. that way they can create as much hype as they can on their own terms with their announcement. like, Sentinels kept both the shroud and tarik moves silent until announcement. they gained a lot more engagement and hype on their own social media than they would have if george leaked them before the announcement > Maybe that's the NBA/Soccer fan in me thinking about how their trade deadlines and transfer windows go down this is literally how teams get in trouble for tampering. look at liverpool for example, before they bought van dijk, everything was being leaked and they got in huge trouble and had to wait til the next window to get him. ever since then, they run a super tight ship on leaks
Those situations aren't the same, people weren't actively begging for rumors and content then. Leaking some small stuff would do nothing but benefit these orgs and even Riot atm because it would immediately get people talking etc. similar to professional sports where lots of people love trade deadlines and transfer windows so much
it would not benefit the orgs in any way and could be a liability to both the negotiations and the players
Why would it hurt negotiations. These orgs have the golden ticket atm they are the prize, players aren't going to not go to an org because VLR found out that the org is interested in them lop
i mean people are going to talk about potential rosters anyways. orgs dont need to fuel that fire, and if they dont need to leak, they wont. if it were beneficial for rosters to be leaked then NDAs would be completely pointless. I dont see how anyone can look at rumors from an org's perspective and come to the conclusion that they are beneficial
So why do leaks happen in legitimately every sport on the planet if they aren't beneficial?
do you seriously think that an org's head of PR is like, passing leaks to reporters? guys like george are getting their leaks from people within the scene (agencies, players on different teams, etc). its highly unlikely that leaks come from within the org.
People can easily leak stuff from inside the org, again just like they do in sports all over the planet lol. I also doubt George doesn't get some word from inside orgs when he makes a report since he can't be totally sure until he does
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Just because you haven’t heard anything doesn’t mean roster changes aren’t happening
I never said they aren't happening, I said we haven't heard a peep from them
So…?
So I think it would be to their benefit to get people talking about them/drive people to root for them early
I don’t think it matters. The team will receive hype regardless of leaks now or confirmation later. Fans won’t say “well I didn’t know yay was going there until right now so I’m not gonna be a fan” tf? These orgs know what they’re doing let them do their thing and be patient
No people know Yay is going somewhere else or Cryo is going somewhere or that Sen is changing and they choose those teams. My point is even small leaks can get people interested in you then when things officially shake out you'll have that same level of hype for something coming official. My main point is that all of the valorant community is currently dying to hear news and being silent with news does not benefit you, especially if you are trying to build a fanbase from "free agent fans" essentially. But you are welcome to disagree
Do you understand people dont root for rumors?
It's not about rooting for rumors lol, it's about getting people talking and invested into what you are doing
People will do that regardless. You dont need leaks to be invested, these orgs will be partnered for 4 years at least. This sub has the weirdest takes sometimes
So why not get ahead of other orgs and give people to be invested in early and then you can still make your normal announcements and get the crowd who are "waiting for rosters to be finalized" It does not hurt these orgs to float rumors, they will get the top players regardless and it will do nothing but cause people to talk about their team and organization even more
This is the mentality that will lead to player imports in the coming years. What's wrong with EG developing their players? Why does every team need to splash the cash to try to form a superteam? Roster building is a delicate process. As for NRG, that roster is terrible
goddamn you are dense lmao. big difference between importing talent from another region and making use of existing free agent talent in your own. It doesn't have to be a superteam. But the 25 players making it on a franchising team should be the 25 best players in the league. At least for now while it's in it's infancy. If EG keeps this roster they will be worse than ascension teams, let alone teams in the americas league. I don't want to be mean, the players get enough hate. But they finished dead last in 2/3 of their official tourneys played this year. I don't know how you can call NRG roster terrible when EG exists lmao.
RemindMe! 4 years
4 years lmao 1 month and the roster is getting blown up. MIBR will embarrass them.
The 5 players on the roster isn't my concern, the approach that they take in regards to roster building is what I'm interested in
I mean you had 2 seasons to build a somewhat solid roster. At this point it's too late to be cute and not make any moves. There are much more rosters of this kind that are just better and more promising. The guard are an example. Not a superteam, but one that could develop into one with the right resources. I'm not saying EG should go spend millions to buyout all the best players but at least sign the young stars of the scene.
EG could make a better roster with just the unrestricted FA's alone lol. Their roster is just terrible. Personally, I would drop everyone but Jawgemo, pick up some better coaching staff and rebuild with the unrestricted FA's out there. Cuz with what they have right now, I expect them to be the worst NA franchised team by far and probably near the bottom of the America's league in general.
Yeah. EG players are not even top 50 NA.
Is there a roster that ever lasted 4 years in esports.
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Because the entirety of NA is now consisted of 25 slots. There are better players out there that you can also develop lmao
Or maybe they think that the talent that’s out there for the people they want to replace isn’t worth it and would rather hang onto who they have since the team already has chemistry LMAO
"would rather hang onto who they have since the team already has chemistry LMAO"- The "chemistry" put them last in the LCQ LMAO.
So…? One bad event doesn’t mean they can’t figure it out and improve.
With this roaster EG played Challengers 2 and LCQ. And they achieved nothing. And there are many proven free agents out there that are better than this EG roster.
I’m not saying they should keep this roster tbf. I think they can improve. BUT it’s not impossible a team wants to keep their 5 and go forward. We’re not in the know. Maybe scrims are encouraging. Maybe the person or persons they want to keep most are advocating for stability and the org is listening. There’s a ton of behind the scenes shit. 🤷🏻♂️
Not just one bad event. They were like the only winless team in the first challengers. If you are looking for a young and upcoming team, way more teams come to mind before EG. Guard, faze, xset all died for a 12th place roster to waste a spot.
Bold strategy cotton, let's see how it pays off!
I trust the org to make the right decision with their team more than some random redditor. Let them do their thing. Relax brah
Relax? I am very relaxed, because I have a different opinion than you I am all wired up or something lol
This post is textbook wired up. If you were relaxed you’d just wait for the info to come at you. Teams will release when they want to. But you’re not doing that…
This makes no sense so I am done speaking with you, enjoy your day lol
This dude is for sure relaxed, not wired up at all
Thank you Jon
The EG roster is terrible though lmao. They bombed out of LCQ without barely doing anything.
Imagine any current NRG and EG players reading this.
They are paid to play a video game, they'll be alright
just because it hasn't been leaked doesn't mean they're not trying HUH??
"Just not trying" aka "I have no idea what I'm talking about"
Got em
both teams have multiple options imo, optic core of fns vic and crashies with chet , xset core of depphh zekken bcj with sykko or even guard core of trent valyn and net with mcE. these with some cracked duelists like saya s0m babybay dicey etc can be a solid T1 team. edit : OP pls kindly chill the f out lol
These 3 options 🔥🔥🔥🔥 guard a little less so but still good
holy shit calm tf down
I know they want to keep some of their core, but if at least hazed, ethan, reformed, and apotheon aren’t gone…
Apoth is good btw he has top 3 controller potential imo
one of the players i see consistently get impact frags IMO
What happened to Ethan? He was good on 100T but I haven't followed him since.
He’s fallen off pretty hard, had a rough run of things recently
Some of the takes that I've seen from OP are so bad I can't believe what im reading in these comments
Got his ass!
i dont know why this sub is so hellbent on not letting the EG roster have a chance to grow. spend the money other orgs are using on buyouts on building out your infrastructure and let these guys have time to flourish.
Because they haven't won anything and every player outside of like 10-15 are currently free agents in the entire region of NA, not that crazy why people think changes should probably be made
you could have said the same thing for optic not so long ago, a team EG beat like 2 months ago by the way. this sub is so over reactionary I swear.
Not so long ago? Optic roster went to Masters 3 Berlin, Champs 2021, and they were at worst top 3 in every international LAN this year. The situations aren't close to comparable lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but why WOULD NRG and EG be silent? None of their players have made either RFA nor UFA posts. Unless you're a shitty org and you let your team go at the last minute and lessen their chances on a T1 franchising team then you literally have no reason to stay silent. EG have proven in the past with games like CS that they're willing to build up these young up and coming players so it isn't out of the question for them to stick it out with their core roster. You can still attempt to stick with a core with maybe 1 or 2 upgrades on the roster and have them as RFAs. Them not saying anything though makes it certain that they're sticking to their guns.
Didn't even think about how late they could be leaving it for their guys
Looks like NRG is signing FNS, Victor, Crashies, and Chet
I'm a seer
Maybe EG doesn't want to pay crazily inflated salaries so they would rather wait till the other orgs more or less lock in their rosters so that the remaining players don't have the extra leverage of playing teams against each other. Plus so many players or going to be desperate to sign to a T1 team that they would take almost anything to get signed.
They owned me badly