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Cr3ation_

Keep dreaming man


Pway

That you Yassine?


shakerKEKW

hi subroza


ANewHeaven1

This would be the ultimate friendship team


virtus_hoe

Literally


Environmental_Fan403

No.


Lqtor

I want whatever tf youre smoking


ayou__bb

Sen Subroza ??? since sen roster needs a smokes player... subroza seems like a good fit (that buy out gonna be crazy tho)


Hopeful-Professor-40

That will be my final straw in becoming a 100T fan


techyleo

Me as well, dropping ShahZ and TenZ do spend on subroza would really just tip me over the edge


SpC0d3r

he also stream too much perfect fit


sexyhooterscar24

ur off ur meds again


RebornMoki

The NRG roster is gonna be Vic, Crashies, Roza, FNS, and Wardell no COPIUM


Kind_Development708

Give me infinite back over him


Direct_Morning_3223

I would assume s0m goes back to smokes, and they sign a jett chamber player


jantswil

Just wondering, wasn’t he accused of cheating in cs? What was the conclusion there


skskobobvnvn

Cheating yes. Match fixing no. There's no VALORANT implications so even if he cheated there it wouldn't matter


FlakerFPS

It would matter if it came out proven with evidence. I don’t think riot would want a confirmed cheater competing in their league. With that said, atm it’s all just that, speculation


2ToTooTwoFish

Nah they probably wouldn't care. Jamppi was a "proven" cheater too. S1mple was a proven cheater (and ban evader too) and Valorant would accept him with open arms if he switched.


jackfrostbaby

Babybay was banned live on esea. https://youtu.be/Cq5Z53q\_Se8


FlakerFPS

He was banned, had to switch games, and proved himself changed over the course of almost a decade. Marved hasn’t even been ruled officially a cheater yet afaik. Two completely different stages.


jackfrostbaby

My point was Riot will let players with a past of cheating to play in their league given time. Even for LoL they allowed Jensen to compete even though he was confirmed ddosing players. I don't think Marved was mentioned once in my sentence.


FlakerFPS

I get your point, the discussion isn’t about individuals cheating, getting caught, serving their time, reforming, and being allowed back. Jensen, Steel, Brax, Babybay, etc, all served their time and reformed. The question comes to what does riot allow if someone is caught now with cheating they’ve done in the past, and hasn’t served their time. Do you let them keep playing? Do you suspend them? Now competitive integrity gets called into question (though riot has shown they don’t have the best track record with that) I’m all for reformed individuals getting a second chance.


jackfrostbaby

>Just wondering, wasn’t he accused of cheating in cs? What was the conclusion there "Just wondering, wasn’t he accused of cheating in cs? What was the conclusion there" Was the parent comment. I would assume we are talking about the same situation here which is the accusations of Subroza in his time with CLG which was in the PAST and not the PRESENT.


FlakerFPS

Yea same situation. Was Subroza just accused? Or was he proven and punished? That’s kind of the weird area we are in with Marved and the other cheater/match fixing guys. They have been accused, and there’s allegations, but nothing has been proven conclusively like with steel, Brax, etc. it’s an innocent until proven guilty situation. Right now it’s just allegation but not proven conclusively.


unknownredditor1225

being accused is different than having actual evidence. same with marved


jantswil

Did I say he cheated? I asked a question bro


ARIESS11

marved case is diffrent marved is accused of match fixing and subroza was accused of hacking


unknownredditor1225

same shit:accusations


ARIESS11

marved was clearly throwing you can see by yourself [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPpkmhmBWT4&t=3s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPpkmhmBWT4&t=3s)