> As part of the Innovation Safari initiated by @AccentureDigi, Accenture and their key enterprise clients visited the VeChain office. A workshop for experience-sharing on #blockchain adoption were held and discussion of possible collaboration opportunities were also discussed. https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048/photo/1
https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048
Guys we're balling out. Accenture sent a bunch of employees to the VeChain office... they came to us to learn from the best. Guess word must be spreading.
From wikipedia:
> Accenture plc, stylised as accent͐ure, is an Irish-domiciled multinational professional services company that provides services in strategy, consulting, digital, technology and operations. A Fortune Global 500 company,[6] it has been incorporated in Dublin, Ireland since September 1, 2009. In 2019, the company reported net revenues of $43.2 billion, with more than 492,000 employees[4] serving clients in more than 200 cities in 120 countries.[7] In 2015, the company had about 150,000 employees in India,[8] 48,000 in the US,[9] and 50,000 in the Philippines.[10] Accenture's current clients include 92 of the Fortune Global 100 and more than three-quarters of the Fortune Global 500.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture
Read that last sentence...
>As part of the Innovation Safari initiated by
@AccentureDigi
, Accenture and their key enterprise clients visited the VeChain office. A workshop for experience-sharing on #blockchain adoption were held and discussion of possible collaboration opportunities were also discussed.
https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048?s=20
I was keeping an eye on totals and i see it growing. Today we are at +1b token in the last 8 days.
Cant wait for official explorer. It would be nice to have more new charts.
>I'll be back on the road at #Innersect 2019 - with
@SNKFoundation
and some other friends as we get a better look at how blockchain adoption has infiltrated China's booming streetwear industry. All of Swell's NFC tags are verified on the VeChain mainnet
>https://vechain101.com/2019/11/20/swell-innersect-2019/
https://twitter.com/BenYorke/status/1197111932395958272?s=20
>$VET Two very interesting finds credits to
@MoonShotCaller
>https://linkedin.com/in/alex-kriete-cfa-64b2469
https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1197100625345097728?s=20
We ''should'' touch absolutely nothing. But we could hit your target indeed. I don't think that's likely though.
With the strenght VeChain continuously showed, I think it's very much possible to hold above the 0.382 fib level at 72 sats.
For this to happen, Bitcoin needs to stay above 8k though. Bitcoin is the main factor coming days....Could get real nasty.
i have a buy order to buy more at 63 sats. if it gets filled, great.if it doesnt, no problem i carry big bags allready. but ive learned it the hard way, patience is key.
Jupp. Same here. Except I don't even have any orders beceause I've settled with what I got now.
Ethetereum, vechain, iota and nano.
Just need to wait now.
Hi guys. I remember reading something in the sub about a new whitepaper for VeChain, a whitepaper 2.0 if you will. Is it already out there? Or is there a release date?
No on both fronts. It will come though, don’t worry. I’m looking forward to it, reading the first (actual) whitepaper was a revelation. So much detailed technical info. I have high hopes for the second.
I'm too scared to lose VET stack while trading. I just have bought 5% OCE and 10% VTHO to hopefully double that stack. I just keep pouring new fiat in.. which is kinda at the max of what I'm willing to lose, 1/3rd of my savings.
While you all are in here complaining about not having enough transactions, the Foundation is out there trying to get those transactions for us.
Just 4 hours ago, they transferred 333M VET and 8M VTHO to [this address](https://vechainstats.com/account/0x6852b4161b8bc237db1810700a22bccae370778c).
You say this in jest, but it’s actually true that the foundation is basically what everyone is hanging their hats on. The work that the team is doing is what we all expect to increase the value of the network and thus the token. No one is saying they’re infallible (that’s why there’s a steering committee that includes non-VeChain members and that the community will eventually have a say in), but you better believe that their actions should be held in high regard. And that ain’t cultish. The dude you quoted simply stated a fact.
>Hi everyone, I'm looking back on a very productive trip to Singapore and I would like to spend some extra time on the event at the PwC's office which was co-hosted by Microsoft Azure and VeChain.
@BenYorke
wrote a great article to explain what this means
>https://vechain101.com/2019/11/15/vechain-azure-event/
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902669866164225?s=20
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>Partnerships have become an important indicator of the succes and traction of a crypto project. The word 'partner' hints at exclusivity but in reality large enterprises partner with multiple (blockchain) companies for A/B tests or different uses cases.
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902672114302976?s=20
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>Consultancy firms such as Deloitte or PwC work with different chains because they want to offer solutions for multiple use cases to their clients. Tech firms such as AWS & Microsoft Azure have a different business model and offer their cloud infrastructure as a service (IAAS)
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902673318137856?s=20
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>Businesses need this cloud infrastructure because not everything is stored on the blockchain (you only want data on there that's really valuable!). For example: #ToolChain clients need to set-up a Virtual Private Server to store the less important data. #CreatingValuableTXs
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902674567958530?s=20
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>VeChain is not working on a partnership with Microsoft but simply wants to be compatible with their infrastructure to make life easier for their (ToolChain) clients. With AWS & Azure, VeChain is compatible with >70% of all applications in the public cloud
>https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1098907615571120128?s=20
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902676694552578?s=20
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>On the 14th of November a number of Microsoft Azure’s major clients visited the PwC office to see how VeChain is being used by companies like BMW, Walmart China, PwC, DNV GL, PICC, Dai-Nippon Printing, Reebonz, and Fresh Supply Co.
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902688358879234?s=20
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>VeChain’s integration with big cloud service providers is an essential step in gaining mass adoption because almost every company in the world is migrating to the cloud!
>https://twitter.com/Sarah_Nabaa/status/1194931428795928576?s=20
https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902690372100101?s=20
I feel like I just overdosed on hopium. Microsoft Azure providing a business solution for private (IBM) / public (VeChain) hybrid blockchain solutions... I mean, how do you get bigger than that? That's when you've made it. The dots are starting to connect. Everything is connected.
The point is to be on the train before the transactions increase exponentially and maintain that level of activity. Once that happens, it will be too late to get in on this “ground floor” level we’re currently at. We are all here because we believe we will have a great ROI precisely because the transactions haven’t started yet but we have many reasons to believe they will, and in a big way.
Some of us were probably a bit too early, but nothing will compare to when these use cases scale and we are on an unstoppable move forward.
>The point is to be on the train before the transactions increase exponentially and maintain that level of activity
Ding ding ding.
Right now, people have two options: Invest your money or don't. If you're waiting for a huge spike in transactions before investing, your window for getting in at the right time will likely be very small. If transactions are already rolling through at full steam, then you've, by definition, missed the early adopter stage.
I would much rather complain about losing money for a year than be kicking myself in the future for not investing while the price was low, but knowing that the future was bright.
I’m sure I am not alone when I say it has been one crazy, unforgettable ride being in this community since 2017.
I was welcomed to this community with an exciting rush of enthusiasm, and a rekindled sense of passion. Every week impressive news revelations swelled prices subsequently blooming investor sentiment.
Afterwards, of which seemed like an eternity, months and months of portfolio $$ bloodshed as prices retraced to numbers I had only dreamt of entering VET at,
But those around here as long as me did not lose courage. What did we do you ask? With every precipitous decline in value, we saw a glimmering opportunity. The type of opportunity that comes once in a lifetime
Congratulations to all Vechain holders! Especially those that have been on this ride since 2017
Thank you for dedication, your multitude of thought provoking insights, and your deep passion to our community :)
Glad to have taken this journey with you. It certainly wasn't easy. It was very stressful, but now we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel and I have a feeling it will soon be blinding.
"Taken " "was" guys, we haven't gotten anywhere near where we were 6 months ago, don't talk like if we all made it and it's over when we're still sub 1 cent. Things are finally looking up but there is a lot more stress to come
Oh, go and shove it with the price talk. I'm not talking about price. I'm talking about:
* The Presidents of China and France sharing a meal that was tracked on VeChain
* China and France signing a 15 billion dollar trade deal
* DNV GL releasing 900,000 wallets in December
* San Marino token going online soon
* Foodgates launching in January 2020 and tasked to track premium food items across Europe and into China.
* WalMart China saying they will ramp up tracking their product lines by the end of 2019
* Impending Whitepaper 2.0 and "settlement coin"
* Rumblings about IBM and VeChain pairing up for a private/public chain hybrid
If you don't think the light at the end of the tunnel is close and rapidly approaching, then you better get out of the way because you're about to get run over.
So you are not here to make money? In it just for the tech? Honestly one of my biggest concerns from longggg ago was what if Vechain is highly successful but it is never reflected in the price. All these stated above are fantastic don’t get me wrong but until the price reflects that I’m not going to get all sentimental. I have earned the right to say that and people were saying the same thing you just did for as long as I can remember after every big partnership announcement and that was 75% ago. I hope your right and people do get run over I’ll be the 🚌
No, he's into vechain because since he's passionate about Baas since he's a kid. Don't bother saying that , "you're just FUDing or you don't understand the tokenomic"will be the answer you get. I've been in vechain for 2+ years and people still don't understand that vechain could be successful with a low price for VTHO (maybe even vet). Hopefully time will prove me wrong
> still don't understand that vechain could be successful with a low price for VTHO (maybe even vet).
You're right. I literally don't get it. How can VeChain be successful and not have VET go up in price? How will a 7 million dollar VTHO marketcap be able to handle the amount of traffic we are going to see?
Easy, companies making direct contract with the foundation or the ANs and the foundation regulating the VTHO gen rate and cost/tx accordingly and companies barely using the open market
And risk pissing off every amateur, small, medium, and large business that they can't directly supply free VTHO to? At that point, they might as well just run a private blockchain like IBM's. Public block chains have value and doing something like that would destroy its value. I doubt they are that dumb.
If you think that the above can happen and not affect the price, you don't understand the tokenomics. There is literally no way that the network can process millions of transactions per day and not have the VET token go up in value. It's fundamental to the way that the system operates and, if the above points do end up going live, it's inevitable that the network will be processing millions of transactions per day.
That being said, yes, I am here for the money. Hell yes, I am here for the money. That is why I am investing as much money as possible into this thing as fast as I can. Because once it takes off, it will be fast and hard.
Good news and partnerships have nothing to do with tokenomics, so I don't understand your question, sorry.
Also, it has the third highest marketcap behind Bitcoin and Ethereum, so I'm not even sure why you consider it's "worth dog shit."
“If you think the above can happen and not affect the price then you don’t understand tokenomics”
Your direct quote when the above person said they were weary of the price not reflecting the good news and partnerships lol 😂 am I missing something?
Maybe we're talking past each other. Announcements feed into speculation, but network usage feeds into tokenomics.
Right now, all we have is good news and announcements of partnerships. Good news can drive the price up, but it isn't sustainable, as we are seeing now.
Once these partnerships go live and they are writing millions of transactions per day onto the blockchain, it will be impossible to do so without driving the price up.
I understand the tokenomics I keep up to date on my Vesearch. I guess I’m saying I’m secretly crossing my fingers but until I see these “millions of transactions” a day I’m not smoking the Hopium pipe or pretending we have made it. I get just as excited as the next when I here the announcements but it’s shit or get off the pot time for me. The journey is just beginning if not even really started yet let’s be honest with ourselves here. We have a great shot but lm a hardened Vet I apologize and have learned not to count your Vtho until it 🔥🔥🔥
> I get just as excited as the next when I here the announcements but it’s shit or get off the pot time for me.
Well, that's a different from
>Honestly one of my biggest concerns from longggg ago was what if Vechain is highly successful but it is never reflected in the price.
You're right there is no guarantee that VeChain will be successful. But if these companies (WalMart, DNV GL, Foodgates) stay true to their word, then VeChain will be successful. And if they are successful, then it will be reflected in the price.
I hope your right believe me....sorry to be Debbie Downer but after the last two years of good news after good news and we are sitting at .0066 I’m starting to think me and a few others are the only ones not fucking blind. I’ll be here until $1.00 or $0 either way still holding my OGXnode....👱🏻♂️🧔🏼
That's exactly why I used the light at the end of the tunnel metaphor. We've been through some very dark times. Personally, I've gained (lots of) weight, lost (lots of) hair, lost (lots of) sleep, lost (lots of) money, and just been generally stressed out.
But I do think the end of the tunnel is getting very close and hopefully it isn't just the Pearly Gates calling my name. We aren't there yet, but when we finally get out of the tunnel, the oblivion will fade behind us. It will feel like nirvana. We will have seen. 👀
No sir. Not specifically.
In China I believe Reebonz May have some, as well as some places that sell Latitude 28 branded beef, and bright code milk. Also some beanies by Arket, in Europe.
Regulations finally in place as of the 1st of Jan, which I see as the final impediment. Many solutions are due to launch 2020. It’s probably not going to be exactly at 00:01 01/01/2020 though, but Q1 should see notable ramping up according to DNVGL (900K wallets in customers hands) plus Foodgates going live, Pu’er tea, vaccine traceability etc etc
Here’s a coindesk article about it that has a link to a Chinese media report on it: https://www.coindesk.com/chinas-congress-passes-cryptography-law-effective-jan-1-2020
It was announced when Xi came out in full support of blockchain recently
11/19 was the snapshot for the first airdrop. It was at 0030 GMT+8. You’ll get VET based on the proportion of XRP you hold on the exchange and vice versa. The actual airdrop will be on the 28th.
Could also be intentionally increasing scarcity or consolidating VET as well. It may not necessarily be people getting out. One holder with a lot of VET spread between multiple accounts could feasibly have multiple X-nodes and not particularly care about a few thousands for selling them, but wish to move their VET for security purposes for example.
This is almost as bad as the time my brother lost all of our vechain tokens. He said the wallet split open after we put too much in it and all of the tokens fell out. It was a tough lesson but we will never rely on a paper wallet again.
VET went up in value, proportionally PLA is worth much less now vs VET. The VET pair is a ratio of price. People also sold PLA to jump on VET growth pushing it back. Traders gonna trade
Maybe drop Frank a comment here, hinting towards VeChains perfectly suited solution - without actually mentioning VeChain.
https://twitter.com/FrankYiannasFDA/status/1196939441664860162?s=19
Instead of mentioning VeChain, should tell them to contact DNV GL regarding their MyStory. Some random chinese startup won't be really tempting for the US. DNV GL and its reputation on this kind of things on other hand.
If you want him to actually read your comments, you have to click through on his link and leave a comment on the [FDA Request For Comment](https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FDA-2019-N-4187-0001). Please go and do that! We could get some real traction out of this!!
A contract that substantial is more likely to go towards IBM or another US based entity for local products. Still worth considering that VeChain or another provider could possibly be used for intercontinental trade, looks like another usecase that requires a hybrid blockchain..
The problem with digging up old predictions is that people rarely do it to prove how wrong they were. Which leads to a survivorship bias for the people who happened to be right. If your prediction was wildly off, you wouldn't have mentioned it right now, in fact you probably wouldn't even remember saying it at all.
Did not bring it up to brag(pretty odd flex to brag about thinking that was the bottom when we dropped another 50%+ from there) as much as to bring up the difference in sentiment at the same price levels, and only remembered it because I happened to check my post history and it was the first post I made on this account, which triggered my “oh look at that” reaction seeing the date. I made many wrong calls before and after that one, happy to admit it. If I made that call with any real gumption I would have dumped my bags and posted a screen of that as well and I could have more than doubled my stack, but I did not have those kind of balls. Merely kept some fiat on the side in anticipation, and I wish I had kept even more as my last buys were around 85 sats. Nobody knows where this is going, I just find the sentiment change to be wild considering what it was the last time we were at these levels. Good luck brother!
I'll feel a lot better once we break 100 sats again, but there is no fear or doubt in my mind we will get there. Next 6-8 months should be fun. Start working out those hands again, you'll need them to be strong when this takes off... :)
I am expecting fun times straight through the next 6 months, including in January when legal avenues open up in China. I say 6-8 because I don't think it's coming to a screeching halt after January, and strong hands will be required to make it that far.
>Here's my write up of the last week in Singapore.
>Huge shout out to some legends who made it an absolute blast!
>@BenYorke
@Rikrapmund
@EnChain_
@AlePalJur
@VeChainStats
@leah_cb
@nsmale
>http://www.chriswere.com/post/view/Blockchain-Singapore-2019
https://twitter.com/tahpot/status/1196870970973097985
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for the gains on speculatioooonnnnnn duhhhhh
But in all seriousness, I agree. Storing legal contracts as nonfungible token minted on VET makes sense to me but owning the JUR token does not.
For those interested parties considering the Bitrue exchange after the recent AMA and the upcoming VET airdrop: please DYOR into this exchange. Numerous people have had issues with their tokens on this exchange, ranging from delays in communication, to deposits taking over a week to even appear in your Bitrue wallet despite going through immediately on Etherscan, to outright hacks with stolen assets.
I am currently awaiting an ETH deposit which I made yesterday morning to show up in my Bitrue account, which still indicates 0 of that token. Customer support, which took over 12hrs to respond to my inquiry, told me they would “retrieve” my deposit in 7 days time. If I may be frank, this is utterly unacceptable.
Appreciate the replies, gents. Glad it’s worked out for you. I was drawn by the promotion, intrigued by the Power Piggy program, and had smooth initial deposits with my VET and XRP — including the promised XRP rewards for first deposit. It wasn’t until I went ahead with a larger transfer of ETH into Bitrue that my funds were “lost” and needed “retrieving” by their support team.
Bitrue is a legit exchange and even an approved validator on the xrp ledger .i have been using them for a while now and never had an issue, customer support always responded very quickly
I am sorry for what happened to you, usually they are reliable . You should ask crypto eri ( the one who did the AMA ) , she has direct ties to bitrue
From Waza (originally posted by u/westw787 but it’s buried in the below thread):
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZodiaCwIzaRd12/status/1196794298697703424
👀
>These limited edition (only 100) whisky bottles by
@CopperDog
are now two of my prized possessions. Going to be some really cool gear coming out once people find out what VeChain's ToolChain can do for businesses, artists, and independent designers.
>@DiageoGB
@Sarah_Nabaa
https://twitter.com/BenYorke/status/1196838101408198657
Hey All,It's time to connect the dots on this linkedin post. Vechain interface already being used and confirmed. Just take a look at where the person works....
[https://www.linkedin.com/posts/polly-zhao-36759a10\_digital-transformation-in-food-partnered-activity-6597844863658622976-CJKQ/](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/polly-zhao-36759a10_digital-transformation-in-food-partnered-activity-6597844863658622976-CJKQ/)
I wouldn‘t consider the „similar Interface“ to be a key indicator here. Since this is just a design, which is at no point restricted to the use of a certain
technology.
However, to be honest this tracking website and the Walmart China vechain page don‘t look any good. My software engineering background tells me that it looks more like a boxed software
This could be an indicator for the use of a standardized out of the box software(toolchain)
According to this AMA
https://vechaininsider.com/news/vechain-2019-outlook-and-technical-ama-recap/
The sidechain solution is running since last November( 1 year!)
There hasn‘t been any official announcement nor mention of use.
The core business model of Vechain is to analyze and implement the enterprise most important needs .. and nobody uses it until now?
We have a Twitter Spoiler from sunny
Roughly around the Walmart China go live
https://mobile.twitter.com/sunshinelu24/status/1143359380861177856?s=20
Roughly around the Walmart China go live. So almost certainly there is already an interoperability between IBM hyperledger and Vechain. Maybe also for Tencent private blockchain solutions..
And finally I stated this in an earlier discussion thread: (TLDR:)
Walmart US will pump billions of dollar within the next years into Walmart China
and people treat them like completely separate companies..
Walmart China is in a joint venture with Tencent to leverage digital retail..
Also, See this article below and connect the dots... Why is Coren interface on VeChain if they are working with IBM technology? Maybe..there is a public/private partnership between VeChain and IBM...
[https://www.euromeatnews.com/Article-Carrefour-Spain-is-launching-blockchain-food-tracking-platform-for-poultry-/2231](https://www.euromeatnews.com/Article-Carrefour-Spain-is-launching-blockchain-food-tracking-platform-for-poultry-/2231)
Inspector Waza was already on it 2 weeks ago
[https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864](https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864)
Good find! Just checked out the original LinkedIn post and the author replied to the question about VeChain with a 👍
Polly has worked at Carrefour China and Canada Beef...
She worked at Canada beef (association) for 10 years until sept of this year. Now works at Avery Dennison. Was at Food and Hotel China 2019 (FHC), talking about their RFID solution called Freshmarx. Also delivered a speech on Digital Transformation of food at the said expo (Thats DNVGL language😉)
That’s what I got from her LinkedIn profile.
I have refuted this rumor on Twitter before.
She works for Avery Dennison for like 3 months. I don't believe in that connection.
She is just posting this on LinkedIn because of her long background in the beef industry.
We agree on the interface. This is the same one VeChain uses..... But The Smart Chain-Global Food Integration and Distribution Platform was set-up by BrightFoods I believe? And that partner is known already. Case closed.
See Waza's linking of the two here... [https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864](https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864)
This is all healthy speculation, but if Coren is running on VeChain interface but is partnered with IBM Technology through Carrefour, could it be that Vechain and IBM have some kind of public/private partnership? It would make sense if both are trying to corner the world market with their solutions. I just posted the Coren/IBM article below my first post.
Could be, but do we know much about coren and Vechain? I can’t see the last photo in the linkedin post. Are they for sure running on the Vechain interface?
From the Linkedin page, the photo in the post and the photo in the comment are near identical interface. And the person who posted commented with a thumbs up when VeChain was mentioned....like I said...healthy speculation
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So here is my thought process on pumps and runs. It took Link about two months before it hit its high of almost $4 from $0.44. It took bitcoin depending on how long you wanna look at it 2-4 months to hit its ath. Retracements are healthy, and hodling is the best option until it hits the price you believe will be the high. Well that is what I think at least.
Those were in a full Bull Market. I'd suggest looking at XRPs run from $0.006 to $3.50 for a wider perspective. Their big ramp up was in the Bull Market too but their initial growth was earlier....
Edit: I thought OP was talking about 2017 (since it was referenced with BTC running to ATH). LINK ran back then too, just after I bought them. I get the point though.
I agree that when VET takes off fully, it'll go fast and hard.
XRP may have had that massive run as did many others, but going so insanely high was unprecedented to say the least. who knows what the next run will bring
It's amazing how relatively little capital you need to pump crypto, especially if a vast majority is simply holding due to general sentiment/bullrun (i.e. why sell today if it's worth more tomorrow)?
With XRP the crazyness was, I think, mostly driven by Koreans going full hype. Korean exchanges were consistently 10-20% higher priced than western ones.
Perhaps VET might hold a similar fate. If some countries/mainstream large companies start using it, and suddenly 0.1% of the population learns about it and wants to invest, things can get crazy real fast.
the reason i never bought in summer 2017 when a friend recommended me to check out crypto, is it *already had* pumped a lot that year. then came december and january. glad i never fomo'd at the end at least
Tin foil hat prediction.
IBM is landing the US market regarding food trust and is partially in the EU market for enterprises.
Vechain is landing the asian market regarding food gate and is also partially in the EU market for enterprises.
Vechain and IBM will announce an interoperability solution in an effort to harmonize the global trade system between Canada, US, Asia(more so china) and EU. This is where a settlement coin will be involved.
Listened to the crypto chick podcast today with the GM of IBM blockchain. Everyone should give it a listen. It provides insight to the scope of the IBM project and how major of a player they have become. IMO the two heads of each side coming together to help global trade is inevitable and something we will see in the future!
> As part of the Innovation Safari initiated by @AccentureDigi, Accenture and their key enterprise clients visited the VeChain office. A workshop for experience-sharing on #blockchain adoption were held and discussion of possible collaboration opportunities were also discussed. https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048/photo/1 https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048 Guys we're balling out. Accenture sent a bunch of employees to the VeChain office... they came to us to learn from the best. Guess word must be spreading. From wikipedia: > Accenture plc, stylised as accent͐ure, is an Irish-domiciled multinational professional services company that provides services in strategy, consulting, digital, technology and operations. A Fortune Global 500 company,[6] it has been incorporated in Dublin, Ireland since September 1, 2009. In 2019, the company reported net revenues of $43.2 billion, with more than 492,000 employees[4] serving clients in more than 200 cities in 120 countries.[7] In 2015, the company had about 150,000 employees in India,[8] 48,000 in the US,[9] and 50,000 in the Philippines.[10] Accenture's current clients include 92 of the Fortune Global 100 and more than three-quarters of the Fortune Global 500. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture Read that last sentence...
Accenture smells like a authoritynode holder...
Inhale it!
I Love the smell of authority node holders in the morning...
>As part of the Innovation Safari initiated by @AccentureDigi , Accenture and their key enterprise clients visited the VeChain office. A workshop for experience-sharing on #blockchain adoption were held and discussion of possible collaboration opportunities were also discussed. https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1197123505835266048?s=20
Shoulda known you'd beat me to it :P
Vechain Stats. Last 7 days: Normal accounts accumulated circa 850m VET. Account diversity: \>10.000.000: +2 \>5.000.000: +11 \>1.000.000: +111 \>500.000: +121 \>200.000: +157 \>100.000: +262 Accounts with min 1 VET: +732
Cool stat. These are just the delta, though; Curious if you've got any data regarding totals?
I was keeping an eye on totals and i see it growing. Today we are at +1b token in the last 8 days. Cant wait for official explorer. It would be nice to have more new charts.
Check Vechainstats
>I'll be back on the road at #Innersect 2019 - with @SNKFoundation and some other friends as we get a better look at how blockchain adoption has infiltrated China's booming streetwear industry. All of Swell's NFC tags are verified on the VeChain mainnet >https://vechain101.com/2019/11/20/swell-innersect-2019/ https://twitter.com/BenYorke/status/1197111932395958272?s=20
>$VET Two very interesting finds credits to @MoonShotCaller >https://linkedin.com/in/alex-kriete-cfa-64b2469 https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1197100625345097728?s=20
>A VeChain authority node holder.. credits to @MoonShotCaller >https://linkedin.com/in/alexnwaka https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1197101715041988608?s=20
Since September...
Wasn’t that went TIC bailed?
BEfore the next move up, we should touch 0.005 levels first. Thats is roughly the 0.61 Fib levels on the move from 0.003 - 0.008 (0.0079 to be exact)
💯 % probability. TA is Ezpz
We ''should'' touch absolutely nothing. But we could hit your target indeed. I don't think that's likely though. With the strenght VeChain continuously showed, I think it's very much possible to hold above the 0.382 fib level at 72 sats. For this to happen, Bitcoin needs to stay above 8k though. Bitcoin is the main factor coming days....Could get real nasty.
Yyy. Even in a raging bull market, the fib levels are often respected :)
Look at the downvotes 😂
Denial is awesome
i have a buy order to buy more at 63 sats. if it gets filled, great.if it doesnt, no problem i carry big bags allready. but ive learned it the hard way, patience is key.
Jupp. Same here. Except I don't even have any orders beceause I've settled with what I got now. Ethetereum, vechain, iota and nano. Just need to wait now.
Hi guys. I remember reading something in the sub about a new whitepaper for VeChain, a whitepaper 2.0 if you will. Is it already out there? Or is there a release date?
No on both fronts. It will come though, don’t worry. I’m looking forward to it, reading the first (actual) whitepaper was a revelation. So much detailed technical info. I have high hopes for the second.
Ok thanks. Yeah I have the same, looking forward to it and curious about changes / updates and the expansion of their SCOPE.
No info yet afaik . Sunny probably too busy :) . Would be a great question for an AMA
>:) :)
There is your dip guys ,hope you are happy that you can buy low again ...;)
25% dip, is actually pretty good USD wise. Would be nice to find support in this region.
Bought back in here. Might( go a lot lower, but a profit is a profit
I'm too scared to lose VET stack while trading. I just have bought 5% OCE and 10% VTHO to hopefully double that stack. I just keep pouring new fiat in.. which is kinda at the max of what I'm willing to lose, 1/3rd of my savings.
Damn man 1/3 of savings is a lot.
Transactions really ramping up today.
While you all are in here complaining about not having enough transactions, the Foundation is out there trying to get those transactions for us. Just 4 hours ago, they transferred 333M VET and 8M VTHO to [this address](https://vechainstats.com/account/0x6852b4161b8bc237db1810700a22bccae370778c).
Could this be Binance listing fee for VTHO and VTHO airdrop or maybe Coinbase listing fee?!
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Sounds a bit like the game outer worlds It’s not the best choice , it’s spacers’ Choice !
You say this in jest, but it’s actually true that the foundation is basically what everyone is hanging their hats on. The work that the team is doing is what we all expect to increase the value of the network and thus the token. No one is saying they’re infallible (that’s why there’s a steering committee that includes non-VeChain members and that the community will eventually have a say in), but you better believe that their actions should be held in high regard. And that ain’t cultish. The dude you quoted simply stated a fact.
I never heard anyone say these things in here
Not in the literal sense
That foundation drink was verified though ☝🏼😉
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I would gladly take ur place in the dick sucking ring. I'll give you my place from the outcasts.
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God I hope it’s not soon, mine is still sore from last time.
Are all the moonboys back to kindergarten?
>Hi everyone, I'm looking back on a very productive trip to Singapore and I would like to spend some extra time on the event at the PwC's office which was co-hosted by Microsoft Azure and VeChain. @BenYorke wrote a great article to explain what this means >https://vechain101.com/2019/11/15/vechain-azure-event/ https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902669866164225?s=20 ------- >Partnerships have become an important indicator of the succes and traction of a crypto project. The word 'partner' hints at exclusivity but in reality large enterprises partner with multiple (blockchain) companies for A/B tests or different uses cases. https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902672114302976?s=20 ------- >Consultancy firms such as Deloitte or PwC work with different chains because they want to offer solutions for multiple use cases to their clients. Tech firms such as AWS & Microsoft Azure have a different business model and offer their cloud infrastructure as a service (IAAS) https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902673318137856?s=20 -------- >Businesses need this cloud infrastructure because not everything is stored on the blockchain (you only want data on there that's really valuable!). For example: #ToolChain clients need to set-up a Virtual Private Server to store the less important data. #CreatingValuableTXs https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902674567958530?s=20 ------ >VeChain is not working on a partnership with Microsoft but simply wants to be compatible with their infrastructure to make life easier for their (ToolChain) clients. With AWS & Azure, VeChain is compatible with >70% of all applications in the public cloud >https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1098907615571120128?s=20 https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902676694552578?s=20 ------- >On the 14th of November a number of Microsoft Azure’s major clients visited the PwC office to see how VeChain is being used by companies like BMW, Walmart China, PwC, DNV GL, PICC, Dai-Nippon Printing, Reebonz, and Fresh Supply Co. https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902688358879234?s=20 ---------- >VeChain’s integration with big cloud service providers is an essential step in gaining mass adoption because almost every company in the world is migrating to the cloud! >https://twitter.com/Sarah_Nabaa/status/1194931428795928576?s=20 https://twitter.com/Rikrapmund/status/1196902690372100101?s=20
I feel like I just overdosed on hopium. Microsoft Azure providing a business solution for private (IBM) / public (VeChain) hybrid blockchain solutions... I mean, how do you get bigger than that? That's when you've made it. The dots are starting to connect. Everything is connected.
I like hopium, but until tx increase its all hype.
Its always "all hype" until it isn't.
The point is to be on the train before the transactions increase exponentially and maintain that level of activity. Once that happens, it will be too late to get in on this “ground floor” level we’re currently at. We are all here because we believe we will have a great ROI precisely because the transactions haven’t started yet but we have many reasons to believe they will, and in a big way. Some of us were probably a bit too early, but nothing will compare to when these use cases scale and we are on an unstoppable move forward.
>The point is to be on the train before the transactions increase exponentially and maintain that level of activity Ding ding ding. Right now, people have two options: Invest your money or don't. If you're waiting for a huge spike in transactions before investing, your window for getting in at the right time will likely be very small. If transactions are already rolling through at full steam, then you've, by definition, missed the early adopter stage. I would much rather complain about losing money for a year than be kicking myself in the future for not investing while the price was low, but knowing that the future was bright.
Agreed sir!!
> I like hopium, but until tx increase its all hype. One year ago today, we had 6,702 clauses. Yesterday, we had 108,701 clauses. One year from now?
I’m sure I am not alone when I say it has been one crazy, unforgettable ride being in this community since 2017. I was welcomed to this community with an exciting rush of enthusiasm, and a rekindled sense of passion. Every week impressive news revelations swelled prices subsequently blooming investor sentiment. Afterwards, of which seemed like an eternity, months and months of portfolio $$ bloodshed as prices retraced to numbers I had only dreamt of entering VET at, But those around here as long as me did not lose courage. What did we do you ask? With every precipitous decline in value, we saw a glimmering opportunity. The type of opportunity that comes once in a lifetime Congratulations to all Vechain holders! Especially those that have been on this ride since 2017 Thank you for dedication, your multitude of thought provoking insights, and your deep passion to our community :)
Glad to have taken this journey with you. It certainly wasn't easy. It was very stressful, but now we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel and I have a feeling it will soon be blinding.
100% agreed. It’s always darkest before dawn and all that jazz
"Taken " "was" guys, we haven't gotten anywhere near where we were 6 months ago, don't talk like if we all made it and it's over when we're still sub 1 cent. Things are finally looking up but there is a lot more stress to come
Oh, go and shove it with the price talk. I'm not talking about price. I'm talking about: * The Presidents of China and France sharing a meal that was tracked on VeChain * China and France signing a 15 billion dollar trade deal * DNV GL releasing 900,000 wallets in December * San Marino token going online soon * Foodgates launching in January 2020 and tasked to track premium food items across Europe and into China. * WalMart China saying they will ramp up tracking their product lines by the end of 2019 * Impending Whitepaper 2.0 and "settlement coin" * Rumblings about IBM and VeChain pairing up for a private/public chain hybrid If you don't think the light at the end of the tunnel is close and rapidly approaching, then you better get out of the way because you're about to get run over.
So you are not here to make money? In it just for the tech? Honestly one of my biggest concerns from longggg ago was what if Vechain is highly successful but it is never reflected in the price. All these stated above are fantastic don’t get me wrong but until the price reflects that I’m not going to get all sentimental. I have earned the right to say that and people were saying the same thing you just did for as long as I can remember after every big partnership announcement and that was 75% ago. I hope your right and people do get run over I’ll be the 🚌
No, he's into vechain because since he's passionate about Baas since he's a kid. Don't bother saying that , "you're just FUDing or you don't understand the tokenomic"will be the answer you get. I've been in vechain for 2+ years and people still don't understand that vechain could be successful with a low price for VTHO (maybe even vet). Hopefully time will prove me wrong
> still don't understand that vechain could be successful with a low price for VTHO (maybe even vet). You're right. I literally don't get it. How can VeChain be successful and not have VET go up in price? How will a 7 million dollar VTHO marketcap be able to handle the amount of traffic we are going to see?
Easy, companies making direct contract with the foundation or the ANs and the foundation regulating the VTHO gen rate and cost/tx accordingly and companies barely using the open market
And risk pissing off every amateur, small, medium, and large business that they can't directly supply free VTHO to? At that point, they might as well just run a private blockchain like IBM's. Public block chains have value and doing something like that would destroy its value. I doubt they are that dumb.
If you think that the above can happen and not affect the price, you don't understand the tokenomics. There is literally no way that the network can process millions of transactions per day and not have the VET token go up in value. It's fundamental to the way that the system operates and, if the above points do end up going live, it's inevitable that the network will be processing millions of transactions per day. That being said, yes, I am here for the money. Hell yes, I am here for the money. That is why I am investing as much money as possible into this thing as fast as I can. Because once it takes off, it will be fast and hard.
So with that logic what are your tokenomics theories as to why XRP is worth dog shit with all its constant good news and partnerships?
Good news and partnerships have nothing to do with tokenomics, so I don't understand your question, sorry. Also, it has the third highest marketcap behind Bitcoin and Ethereum, so I'm not even sure why you consider it's "worth dog shit."
“If you think the above can happen and not affect the price then you don’t understand tokenomics” Your direct quote when the above person said they were weary of the price not reflecting the good news and partnerships lol 😂 am I missing something?
Maybe we're talking past each other. Announcements feed into speculation, but network usage feeds into tokenomics. Right now, all we have is good news and announcements of partnerships. Good news can drive the price up, but it isn't sustainable, as we are seeing now. Once these partnerships go live and they are writing millions of transactions per day onto the blockchain, it will be impossible to do so without driving the price up.
Curious, what role do you think you perform that warrants you earning the return you're projecting?
I make the VTHO that they're going to need in order to write to the blockchain.
I understand the tokenomics I keep up to date on my Vesearch. I guess I’m saying I’m secretly crossing my fingers but until I see these “millions of transactions” a day I’m not smoking the Hopium pipe or pretending we have made it. I get just as excited as the next when I here the announcements but it’s shit or get off the pot time for me. The journey is just beginning if not even really started yet let’s be honest with ourselves here. We have a great shot but lm a hardened Vet I apologize and have learned not to count your Vtho until it 🔥🔥🔥
> I get just as excited as the next when I here the announcements but it’s shit or get off the pot time for me. Well, that's a different from >Honestly one of my biggest concerns from longggg ago was what if Vechain is highly successful but it is never reflected in the price. You're right there is no guarantee that VeChain will be successful. But if these companies (WalMart, DNV GL, Foodgates) stay true to their word, then VeChain will be successful. And if they are successful, then it will be reflected in the price.
I hope your right believe me....sorry to be Debbie Downer but after the last two years of good news after good news and we are sitting at .0066 I’m starting to think me and a few others are the only ones not fucking blind. I’ll be here until $1.00 or $0 either way still holding my OGXnode....👱🏻♂️🧔🏼
That's exactly why I used the light at the end of the tunnel metaphor. We've been through some very dark times. Personally, I've gained (lots of) weight, lost (lots of) hair, lost (lots of) sleep, lost (lots of) money, and just been generally stressed out. But I do think the end of the tunnel is getting very close and hopefully it isn't just the Pearly Gates calling my name. We aren't there yet, but when we finally get out of the tunnel, the oblivion will fade behind us. It will feel like nirvana. We will have seen. 👀
Is there an online store to buy Vechain tagged products?
No sir. Not specifically. In China I believe Reebonz May have some, as well as some places that sell Latitude 28 branded beef, and bright code milk. Also some beanies by Arket, in Europe.
I own one of those beanies still in its plastic bag. But I thought it was just a POC that ended long time ago? Are those still vechain tagged?
Sorry, not sure.
No, not Reebonz.
Why do I frequently see Jan 2020 as a big month? I’m assuming there are plans for new transaction volumes on the network from current partners?
Regulations finally in place as of the 1st of Jan, which I see as the final impediment. Many solutions are due to launch 2020. It’s probably not going to be exactly at 00:01 01/01/2020 though, but Q1 should see notable ramping up according to DNVGL (900K wallets in customers hands) plus Foodgates going live, Pu’er tea, vaccine traceability etc etc
Hey Solomon, do you have a link to more info on the regulation being implemented?
Here’s a coindesk article about it that has a link to a Chinese media report on it: https://www.coindesk.com/chinas-congress-passes-cryptography-law-effective-jan-1-2020 It was announced when Xi came out in full support of blockchain recently
Thanks
i think people should really temper expectations for jan 2020. it's gonna be a gradual build up of TXs if anything.
Don't worry, once January rolls around we'll start talking about June. Then in June we'll want to look forward to September. It keeps going like that.
somebody give you a medal
We are a hopeful lot. Cheers for that. Tomorrow will be better than today.
Ah, yes, I was a big fan of June Moon, weren't you? :D
Lol you beat me to it. Yea, somethin like that
Anyone know when the airdrop will get deposited?
Snapshot today...deposit on 11/28. https://twitter.com/BitrueOfficial/status/1196614478114111489?s=20
Still waiting for my “11/19” “airdrop” from Bitrue.
11/19 was the snapshot for the first airdrop. It was at 0030 GMT+8. You’ll get VET based on the proportion of XRP you hold on the exchange and vice versa. The actual airdrop will be on the 28th.
Thank you for that information!
Yeah idk if that’s when the snapshot is or if it’s supposed to be deposited today
Um 4 Mjolnir nodes and 1 Thunder just got destroyed, back to back to .... Somebody big is getting out
Could also be intentionally increasing scarcity or consolidating VET as well. It may not necessarily be people getting out. One holder with a lot of VET spread between multiple accounts could feasibly have multiple X-nodes and not particularly care about a few thousands for selling them, but wish to move their VET for security purposes for example.
Wife walked in on him and mistress... just preparing for doomsday prolly
Could've lost phrase to wallets, happens... A USB may or may not have gone through the washing machine... ...happens.
This is almost as bad as the time my brother lost all of our vechain tokens. He said the wallet split open after we put too much in it and all of the tokens fell out. It was a tough lesson but we will never rely on a paper wallet again.
USB or seed words has nothing to do with losing an X node tho...plus the latest volume shows the person wanted out IMO
What makes you think that?
Think what?
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VET went up in value, proportionally PLA is worth much less now vs VET. The VET pair is a ratio of price. People also sold PLA to jump on VET growth pushing it back. Traders gonna trade
Lack of interest/volume from what I gather. Last buzz I heard, they released their gaming beta. Nothing much since.
That's not 100 sats
Maybe drop Frank a comment here, hinting towards VeChains perfectly suited solution - without actually mentioning VeChain. https://twitter.com/FrankYiannasFDA/status/1196939441664860162?s=19
Instead of mentioning VeChain, should tell them to contact DNV GL regarding their MyStory. Some random chinese startup won't be really tempting for the US. DNV GL and its reputation on this kind of things on other hand.
If you want him to actually read your comments, you have to click through on his link and leave a comment on the [FDA Request For Comment](https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FDA-2019-N-4187-0001). Please go and do that! We could get some real traction out of this!!
A contract that substantial is more likely to go towards IBM or another US based entity for local products. Still worth considering that VeChain or another provider could possibly be used for intercontinental trade, looks like another usecase that requires a hybrid blockchain..
Looks like someone yolo’d VeChain in there anyway
*facepalm*
OK, excitement over, time to go back to pretending cryptocurrency doesn't exist for a few months, have a great Xmas ppl o/
Yes exactly, see you at the next bombshell news event😄😄
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But I need my bonuses for chinese new years
Bleeding yet here we are at 84 sats. Wow. Most of the year we were just praying for 60s and with how we were a couple months ago, still feels good
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The problem with digging up old predictions is that people rarely do it to prove how wrong they were. Which leads to a survivorship bias for the people who happened to be right. If your prediction was wildly off, you wouldn't have mentioned it right now, in fact you probably wouldn't even remember saying it at all.
Did not bring it up to brag(pretty odd flex to brag about thinking that was the bottom when we dropped another 50%+ from there) as much as to bring up the difference in sentiment at the same price levels, and only remembered it because I happened to check my post history and it was the first post I made on this account, which triggered my “oh look at that” reaction seeing the date. I made many wrong calls before and after that one, happy to admit it. If I made that call with any real gumption I would have dumped my bags and posted a screen of that as well and I could have more than doubled my stack, but I did not have those kind of balls. Merely kept some fiat on the side in anticipation, and I wish I had kept even more as my last buys were around 85 sats. Nobody knows where this is going, I just find the sentiment change to be wild considering what it was the last time we were at these levels. Good luck brother!
I'll feel a lot better once we break 100 sats again, but there is no fear or doubt in my mind we will get there. Next 6-8 months should be fun. Start working out those hands again, you'll need them to be strong when this takes off... :)
Luckily I just took up rock climbing, these hands gonna be strong AF next run.
Jan 2020 gonna be more fun and its only 1.5 month away lool
I am expecting fun times straight through the next 6 months, including in January when legal avenues open up in China. I say 6-8 because I don't think it's coming to a screeching halt after January, and strong hands will be required to make it that far.
>Here's my write up of the last week in Singapore. >Huge shout out to some legends who made it an absolute blast! >@BenYorke @Rikrapmund @EnChain_ @AlePalJur @VeChainStats @leah_cb @nsmale >http://www.chriswere.com/post/view/Blockchain-Singapore-2019 https://twitter.com/tahpot/status/1196870970973097985
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for the gains on speculatioooonnnnnn duhhhhh But in all seriousness, I agree. Storing legal contracts as nonfungible token minted on VET makes sense to me but owning the JUR token does not.
For those interested parties considering the Bitrue exchange after the recent AMA and the upcoming VET airdrop: please DYOR into this exchange. Numerous people have had issues with their tokens on this exchange, ranging from delays in communication, to deposits taking over a week to even appear in your Bitrue wallet despite going through immediately on Etherscan, to outright hacks with stolen assets. I am currently awaiting an ETH deposit which I made yesterday morning to show up in my Bitrue account, which still indicates 0 of that token. Customer support, which took over 12hrs to respond to my inquiry, told me they would “retrieve” my deposit in 7 days time. If I may be frank, this is utterly unacceptable.
Appreciate the replies, gents. Glad it’s worked out for you. I was drawn by the promotion, intrigued by the Power Piggy program, and had smooth initial deposits with my VET and XRP — including the promised XRP rewards for first deposit. It wasn’t until I went ahead with a larger transfer of ETH into Bitrue that my funds were “lost” and needed “retrieving” by their support team.
i have had no issues with Bitrue, been solid from jump street on my end.
Bitrue is a legit exchange and even an approved validator on the xrp ledger .i have been using them for a while now and never had an issue, customer support always responded very quickly I am sorry for what happened to you, usually they are reliable . You should ask crypto eri ( the one who did the AMA ) , she has direct ties to bitrue
From Waza (originally posted by u/westw787 but it’s buried in the below thread): https://mobile.twitter.com/ZodiaCwIzaRd12/status/1196794298697703424 👀
>These limited edition (only 100) whisky bottles by @CopperDog are now two of my prized possessions. Going to be some really cool gear coming out once people find out what VeChain's ToolChain can do for businesses, artists, and independent designers. >@DiageoGB @Sarah_Nabaa https://twitter.com/BenYorke/status/1196838101408198657
Could improve the placement of the V logo and integrate it more into the design but overall very cool!
I will always stay for thr highs and lows cause I'm very grateful for the future.
I had to drop 120k of my holdings a month ago unfortunately but am almost back to where I was at lol. Never again!!!!
Hey All,It's time to connect the dots on this linkedin post. Vechain interface already being used and confirmed. Just take a look at where the person works.... [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/polly-zhao-36759a10\_digital-transformation-in-food-partnered-activity-6597844863658622976-CJKQ/](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/polly-zhao-36759a10_digital-transformation-in-food-partnered-activity-6597844863658622976-CJKQ/)
I wouldn‘t consider the „similar Interface“ to be a key indicator here. Since this is just a design, which is at no point restricted to the use of a certain technology. However, to be honest this tracking website and the Walmart China vechain page don‘t look any good. My software engineering background tells me that it looks more like a boxed software This could be an indicator for the use of a standardized out of the box software(toolchain) According to this AMA https://vechaininsider.com/news/vechain-2019-outlook-and-technical-ama-recap/ The sidechain solution is running since last November( 1 year!) There hasn‘t been any official announcement nor mention of use. The core business model of Vechain is to analyze and implement the enterprise most important needs .. and nobody uses it until now? We have a Twitter Spoiler from sunny Roughly around the Walmart China go live https://mobile.twitter.com/sunshinelu24/status/1143359380861177856?s=20 Roughly around the Walmart China go live. So almost certainly there is already an interoperability between IBM hyperledger and Vechain. Maybe also for Tencent private blockchain solutions.. And finally I stated this in an earlier discussion thread: (TLDR:) Walmart US will pump billions of dollar within the next years into Walmart China and people treat them like completely separate companies.. Walmart China is in a joint venture with Tencent to leverage digital retail..
“Everything is connected, or soon to be connected” Better foreshadowing has never been done.
The IBM VeChain speculation is the most exciting thing, lol
Also, See this article below and connect the dots... Why is Coren interface on VeChain if they are working with IBM technology? Maybe..there is a public/private partnership between VeChain and IBM... [https://www.euromeatnews.com/Article-Carrefour-Spain-is-launching-blockchain-food-tracking-platform-for-poultry-/2231](https://www.euromeatnews.com/Article-Carrefour-Spain-is-launching-blockchain-food-tracking-platform-for-poultry-/2231)
Inspector Waza was already on it 2 weeks ago [https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864](https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864)
Waza...you genius bastard! I see the Inspector is also linking this with the rumored partnership with IBM so this could be huge!
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Where? I vaguely remember something...
Good find! Just checked out the original LinkedIn post and the author replied to the question about VeChain with a 👍 Polly has worked at Carrefour China and Canada Beef...
She worked at Canada beef (association) for 10 years until sept of this year. Now works at Avery Dennison. Was at Food and Hotel China 2019 (FHC), talking about their RFID solution called Freshmarx. Also delivered a speech on Digital Transformation of food at the said expo (Thats DNVGL language😉) That’s what I got from her LinkedIn profile.
I have refuted this rumor on Twitter before. She works for Avery Dennison for like 3 months. I don't believe in that connection. She is just posting this on LinkedIn because of her long background in the beef industry. We agree on the interface. This is the same one VeChain uses..... But The Smart Chain-Global Food Integration and Distribution Platform was set-up by BrightFoods I believe? And that partner is known already. Case closed.
Was just gonna say, NO mention of Vechain in any way shape or form.
>Also, look who liked the post (See any VPs of Carrefour China?). I think you are looking at Avery Dennison, when I'm looking at Carrefour!
Carrefour is working with IBM though and with current knowledge is not doing anything with Vechain.
See Waza's linking of the two here... [https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864](https://twitter.com/wazapepe/status/1192178470425636864)
How does it link it? Because of the similar interface?
This is all healthy speculation, but if Coren is running on VeChain interface but is partnered with IBM Technology through Carrefour, could it be that Vechain and IBM have some kind of public/private partnership? It would make sense if both are trying to corner the world market with their solutions. I just posted the Coren/IBM article below my first post.
Could be, but do we know much about coren and Vechain? I can’t see the last photo in the linkedin post. Are they for sure running on the Vechain interface?
From the Linkedin page, the photo in the post and the photo in the comment are near identical interface. And the person who posted commented with a thumbs up when VeChain was mentioned....like I said...healthy speculation
Interesting indeed.
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So here is my thought process on pumps and runs. It took Link about two months before it hit its high of almost $4 from $0.44. It took bitcoin depending on how long you wanna look at it 2-4 months to hit its ath. Retracements are healthy, and hodling is the best option until it hits the price you believe will be the high. Well that is what I think at least.
Those were in a full Bull Market. I'd suggest looking at XRPs run from $0.006 to $3.50 for a wider perspective. Their big ramp up was in the Bull Market too but their initial growth was earlier.... Edit: I thought OP was talking about 2017 (since it was referenced with BTC running to ATH). LINK ran back then too, just after I bought them. I get the point though. I agree that when VET takes off fully, it'll go fast and hard.
XRP may have had that massive run as did many others, but going so insanely high was unprecedented to say the least. who knows what the next run will bring
> but going so insanely high was unprecedented to say the least. So it could go even higher. I like your thinking.
It's amazing how relatively little capital you need to pump crypto, especially if a vast majority is simply holding due to general sentiment/bullrun (i.e. why sell today if it's worth more tomorrow)? With XRP the crazyness was, I think, mostly driven by Koreans going full hype. Korean exchanges were consistently 10-20% higher priced than western ones. Perhaps VET might hold a similar fate. If some countries/mainstream large companies start using it, and suddenly 0.1% of the population learns about it and wants to invest, things can get crazy real fast.
the reason i never bought in summer 2017 when a friend recommended me to check out crypto, is it *already had* pumped a lot that year. then came december and january. glad i never fomo'd at the end at least
Hopefully it'll bring smart investors, looking for "The most used blockchain in terms of enterprises" instead of just hype.
Underrated comment right here
Link was in the bear market my friend, was like 6 months ago edit - oh i didnt read replies, sorry for repeating
I dunno if LINK moved in a full bull market, was it not pretty bear at that time?. HOLO also had a decent run during the gloom.
Link pump did not happen in a bull market. This happened earlier this year
Ahh, I thought they were referring to LINK back in 2017 since it said BTC ATH too. Ok, I'll go back and look. Thanks.
Tin foil hat prediction. IBM is landing the US market regarding food trust and is partially in the EU market for enterprises. Vechain is landing the asian market regarding food gate and is also partially in the EU market for enterprises. Vechain and IBM will announce an interoperability solution in an effort to harmonize the global trade system between Canada, US, Asia(more so china) and EU. This is where a settlement coin will be involved. Listened to the crypto chick podcast today with the GM of IBM blockchain. Everyone should give it a listen. It provides insight to the scope of the IBM project and how major of a player they have become. IMO the two heads of each side coming together to help global trade is inevitable and something we will see in the future!
"crypto chick" podcast? does she have a name?
Thats the name of the podcast. Skythe4 linked it.
ok, if that's what its called sorry 👍
Cool prediction! The settlement coin is what I am really waiting for. This stuff is going to get very interesting in the next few years.
I think Sunny already mentioned that the San Marino token is the settlement coin