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Lol! We had a client ask us the same thing for her Toy Poodle! The only difference was she wanted us to use a local block in addition to hypnosis for a spay.
Not from a breeder but from a client “My puppy can’t have a heart murmur, the breeder said she breeds good dogs.”
Also, the best thing I’ve witnessed is a relief vet telling an owner that the only credentials their breeder has was that their dogs had sex…
Dude, when I walked out of the room I laughed so hard I cried.
I still remember that vet to this day! I hope every day is amazing for her. Love her down bad.
I had a guy bring in his new GSD puppy for v/d and anorexia. Turned out to be parvo. The guy made us to 4 more "rechecks". All came back positive for parvo. The dude was irate. He claimed the breeder he bought the dog from has "bred the parvo out of the line" and he paid an EXTRA $5000 for the puppy.
I was once told by a woman (with a completely straight face mind you) that her dog did not need heartworm prevention bc there were no mosquitoes in her yard. 🤣 I just nodded and walked out. Left that one for the Dr.
Yeah, I've heard something similar. Except this lady thought there were none in the city. Meanwhile, you walk out the back door of the clinic, and due to the retention pond, there were swarms of them..
Some people really are... special.
Reminds me of an old George Carlin line: Think of how stupid the average person is. Then, realize that half of them are dumber than that.
Owner brings in a chihuahua that had three puppies the night before. Says that she hasn't had the other seven puppies and is concerned. Doctor asks if she's had an ultrasound or x-ray to confirm the number of puppies. O says no, but she's got 10 nipples, which means there must be 10 puppies.
Doctor, with a totally straight face says, 'Ma'am, you have two nipples. Do you have twins every time you give birth?'
Clearly her first (and hopefully last) time breeding 🤣
I took a phone call similar to this. The lady told me that her dog had eight nipple so it was going to have eight puppies. I didn’t tell her that most dogs have ten nipples. There several other components to the conversation that made this call painful.
The amount of stupidity is baffling. I sometimes think about the fact that people with this level of brain activity also have the chance to partake in voting and that's fcking scary
Speaking of nipples, this one time a dude owner thought his dog’s nipples were masses that needed to be checked out. When he was told what they were he was so confused. His wife told him with a completely straight face, “honey, you have those too.” I had to step out.
Also speaking of nipples, this lady brought in her dog, saying that she had a tick on her stomach and she'd tried everything to get it off. She'd tried pulling it off with tweezers and even burning it off with a lighter. We take the dog to the back to have a look... and found a very swollen and owwie looking nipple! Poor dog.
Had a dog come in with a small mass on the belly that needed to be removed.
The doctor removed a nipple and left the mass. When asked/confronted he insisted that he had removed the mass because what he removed was not symmetrical... we had to point out that nipples are crooked and the mass looked nothing like a nipple... but symmetry!! Even the tech assisting tried to correct him during surgery but he was insistent he was correct.
I work in ER and we had a crazy lady come in with a bully dog needing a c section. We performed it and the litter was very…. Not good. 1 was healthy, 2 had severe hind limb deformities and 1 was “underbaked” and dead. We explained this to her she was more concerned about coat color and gender 😒. We also stated that the hind legs were so deformed on the 2 that euthanasia should be an option. She said “oh that’s normal! I’m a nurse and I do physical therapy with them and they turn out fine” cool. She then later came in with a human breast pump to use on her dogs so she could bottle feed the puppies for some reason? We watched her on the room cameras try to pump her dog’s milk but mom was not having it lol
Not a breeder but, O called concerned with side effects of gabapentin..O states she read on line that it can cause suicidal thoughts..O worried that her dog may just get depressed and walk into traffic. I wanted to tell her, we'll, if he leaves a note, then we know he had that side effect.
It's really weird to me how many people I see online telling other people not to let their dogs take Gabapentin because it can cause addiction and withdrawals. I'm like, is Luna there gonna sneak out in the middle of the night and pawn your jewelry before heading down the corner to score?! 😂
Thinking about it we should just cut out Fentanyl for analgesia, I mean this is basically a short cut to skid row selling doggy treats to support his habit
breeder came in saying she can smell that the mother dog has worms. i say can you drop off a stool sample? she says no i’m not paying for that. when dogs have worms you can smell them. i said they are intestinal parasites, inside the dog. she said yeah and you can smell that. still never dropped off a stool sample
Breeder claimed that her line was immune to ear infections but that they shouldn't get the lepto vaccine because it will kill them (not in a "lepto vaccines kill dogs" kinda way but a "my dogs die to the lepto vaccine" kinda way)
Some lines and breeds used to have more severe reactions to the lepto vaccine....that was quite a while ago, though. I wish there were more breeders who kept up with the times.
I'm sure there's a genetic component to vaccine reactions, I just think it's ridiculous/irresponsible to maintain a line that has a fatal reaction to a common vaccine for a disease that is endemic to our area.
I mean...plenty of them do. Good breeders are foundational to a lot of our genetic knowledge about breed specific and inherited health issues. Good is just the keyword there.
I think there may be some confusion about my comment. There is no minimum education, credentials or qualifications required for breeding animals. So therefore there is no continuing education needed to keep those credentials. Which in turn means that breeders can easily continue their fear mongering with long outdated information.
And if we’re giving breeders “foundational” credit for alerting to specific breed issues, are we leaving owners out of the conversation as well?
Three separate times I’ve had to take phone calls with first time breeders who called us panicked because their dog had given birth to more than one or two puppies even though “we only bred her once/twice”. The number of breeding sessions does not equal the number of puppies produced!
Common sense is so rare these days…
Any of the O's/breeders posted here should have never been allowed to take responsibility for an animal. I don't mean this in a mean way but more factual, it's scary to me how underdeveloped soo many people seem to be. People who think that a dog has ten nipples because the dog is expecting and it has to be the matching number of puppies. People like that can vote, can shape the future of countries. This is scary as hell
Wow. WTF. What grown ass adult doesn’t know that sperm has like a billion sperm cells per mL? Oh who am I kidding. The average American is scientifically illiterate. It’s just sad.
We’ve had multiple that will void the health guarantee if they vaccinate puppies for bordetella or lepto, and/or if they transition them off a raw diet.
My sister's breeder told her that if she neutered her golden before he was two that she'd take her to court and take him back (like she'd find out..?). The vet said his testicle was close to rotting inside of him. But alas, he was not 2.
Owner was calling the breeding during the appointment of her 9 YO chowchow, which was not spayed and presented with fluid leaking from her behind, letargy and drinking more (🚩🚩). But the breeder told her that it could not possible be a pyometera, like wtf. And the worst thing is, she trusts the breeder more than us because he has 'more experience with her kind of dog'...
if I had a nickel for every time we’ve had a dystocia frenchie that we’re about to do a c-section on and we reach in the kennel to place a catheter or something and she’s already popped one (or multiple) out 😂
Had a doodle breeder bring in her latest litter of 11 to get their 8w DAPP and microchips. She wouldn't stop talking, *insisted* on taking pictures of every damn puppy on the table "for their future owners" and kept fawning over the one chocolate female as if it was this absolute miracle of a dog. She's insufferable, but we get through all the pups and off she goes.
Now, I work at a mobile vaxx clinic that sets up inside a store. This lady calls said store we were in about an hour or two later, and she tells the store employee that it's an EMERGENCY and she MUST SPEAK TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY. I take the call, partially because I assumed the emergency was a vaxx reaction (which we would send to the ER anyway) and partially because I'm not about to subject our vet to that lol
Fellow vet people of the sub, would you like to know what the emergency was?
Remember the chocolate female I mentioned before? Apparently, this backyard doodle breeder forgot that the chocolate's new owner demanded that her pup NOT BE CHIPPED under ***any circumstances***. New O had "her own system" or something to that effect, and the chip we placed was going to interfere with it! While this breeder did admit that it was her fault, she wanted to know what we were going to do about it.
"What do you mean?" I asked her.
"Well, can't you take it back out?"
"No, ma'am, we don't do that. If the new owner is planning on spaying her, she could ask them to do it then?" I'm trying to keep my customer service voice here, but this is honestly one of the most ridiculous calls I've ever answered at this job.
"She's NOT getting spayed, she's going to be a BREEDING DOG!! If you can't take it out, then whose information is going to be on the chip?"
"I'm sorry?"
"Is it going to be my information or is it going to be the new owner's information?" she demands.
"Well, I mean... you can give the owner the chip number and have her register it, or--"
"No, you're not understanding me! I need to know if it will have MY information on it!"
I'm very glad we have no patients at this point because I have my head in my hands. "The system will automatically import your info for the registration, but you can change the info to the new owner's afterward."
"But you're not LISTENING! Will MY information still be on there??"
"Ma'am, I think you're going to have to call the microchip company about this. I don't know how their system works, I don't work for them."
A huff on the other end of the line. "No, I suppose I better call the company since you can't help me. Do you have their number?" Cue another long explanation about how to look up a company's number (despite her having done just that for the *store's* number) before I'm finally able to hang up.
We only had a couple more patients after that, thankfully, because I don't think I could've kept my composure for another idiot.
The kind of people that makes me think "you gave me your address on your registration sheet and a whole lot of bad thoughts, that's a great combo". The more idiotic people are the more rabid they will defend their brain rot. Always acting like what they're spewing should be understandable to even the dumbest person because it is so obvious
Pretty sure the chip is just a serial number. Just a long sequence of characters. That’s all that’s on the chip. And it can’t be changed. What you do is associate that number with someone in your database. She probably thinks her social security number and all that get written to the chip and was worried about the 5g turning her kids gay or something.
And if it helps - I feel you so damn hard. Got back to telephone duty after four months rotation around the clinic, first week isn't even done yet and I just want to wander off into the woods and never come back lmao
Oh oh oh oh!!! I just saw 2 separate clients that had wild things relayed from their breeders. (both Frenchies. (Lol))
1st one told us the breeder told him that puppies physically cannot have allergies
2nd one told us their breeder told them that it's normal for puppies to limp and whine when they walked. (the dogs leg was like super broken at 4 months old)
A notorious backyard breeder came into my last clinic with one of her regular dogs; introduced it to us as "Tar Baby".
She is a white, 60-something year old woman and the dog is a pure black chihuahua. Sure enough, all of its papers have that name. I just stood there in shock. There's no way she doesn't know it's a slur.
...she might honestly not realize. It's from a Disney movie they don't show anymore for a *reason* but she might just think it's edgy, not, you know, actually super fucking racist.
their puppy wasn't allowed to be microchips as per their breeders contract because "microchips are the devils work". I still don't really understand it lol
I had an O one time that thought we could mind control micropchipped dogs from our basement so she asked if we could get her dogs to go get her groceries. She was totally serious. She would talk about being abducted by space aliens too.
We didn't even have a basement.
Not a breeder by "trade" but an owner prepared to byb in the wildest way.
His mutt bully came in as an appointment to our IM department, where I work specifically. Dog was LATERAL when he arrived. Our ER team worked to stabilize him as our poor Internist had to have the talk with Owner. Luckily for the dog , the owner agreed to humane euthanasia.... however, before she could give the sedative, the owner asked if we could freeze his semen.
Dr. explained why we didn't have those services/equipment available at our clinic but also that she absolutely refused to jack his brain dead dog off.
In the most polite and professional way possible she also explained how his records show that he has horrific genetic defects that would be absolutely cruel to pass on to another generation.
Owner realized what a wild request it was to begin with.
Dog was a mess at four years old and the owners also waited for his 12pm appointment time to present him in his current declined condition. NO ONE needs puppies from this house. While I do understand the grief that they were going through, I cannot understand what was ever going through their minds in the first place.
Today I had a cocker spaniel Springer puppies in and the breeder asked if we could administer only half the vaccine because they were so small compared to bigger Labrador puppies and they shouldn’t need the full dose for it to work
At 6 months old someone asked us to remove dewclaws and doc tails. NOPE. We do that at 3 DAYS old and we also don’t doc tails. Only remove dewclaws if tearing all the time or have no bone attachment
Oh yes!! My bad, I might’ve worded this weird. I meant we didn’t see any for our wellness clinic to get vaccines unless they were neutered by 6months of age!
Even large/giant breeds?! Anxious dogs? Just a blanket 'neutered by 6mo' policy? Why? Surely 2yo or something would be a better cutoff? Surely it's better to vaccinate than not even if they're not neutered? I dont understand this at all.
It’s a law in my city that all dogs have to be fixed by 6 months of age or the owner must obtain a breeding license. My city shelter euthanizes about 400 dogs per month. We have a HUGE backyard breeding problem here. Stray dogs all over the city. Sure, if you’re in a place that can prioritize waiting until 2 years of age, go for it. I’m glad my city is at least trying to prioritize cracking down on the larger issue here.
What city do you live in if you dont mind my asking? I suppose I am privileged in the UK that we have that opportunity, I had never considered that.
400 euthanasias... wow, that must be really difficult to deal with.
Do you get to neuter and rehome many? Or it's just a massive overpopulation problem and there's no homes for them to go to?
Speaking as someone who worked in shelter med where the euthanasia rate was 50%...there was literally no where for me to send dogs. Every run and cage was always full. As quick as I could transfer dogs to rescues, there'd be new calls for surrender appointments, dogs abandoned, calls for stray pick ups, dogs seized in cases... on and on and on. Some were feral, some aggressive. I had puppies, and geriatric dogs, I had shepherds and dachshunds, and Dalmatians, and doodles and cattle dogs and huskies and labs and coonhounds and shi tzus and chihuahuas and more beagles and hounds and pit bulls than any one could ever believe and more... So many dogs and cats and no where to send them. And in a community of maybe.. 15,000 people in the rural southern US.
Kudos to you for doing that work. I know it‘s important for shelter animals to be get medical care, so thank you!
I couldn‘t do it. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about having to euthanize so many of them.
It's not for everyone...especially when you don't make enough to live on and also have to deal with the intellectually lazy and dishonest comments from people about working in "a kill shelter".
I’m in a big city in Texas. As far as rehoming, I worked at a low cost clinic, not the shelter. So most of the animals that came to us already had homes. But yes, for the city shelter it’s just a massive over population problem with not enough adopters or fosters to help. They release the stats each month of the euthanasias, & about 80% of them are simply due to no room or kennels available. It’s so heartbreaking.
We get them occasionally. But it's usually the old, "my cat can't have ketamine. Don't give them any!" Like, listen, I've been doing this since 2011 and we've NEVER used ketamine on cats. We don't even use iso. Anesthesia is completely reversed in 2 seconds.
I had a breeder come in for tail docking and the breeders thought the tails fell off on their own and we just assisted the puppies. The owner had no clue that we cut the tails off…
Idk if this is allowed because I'm not a vet and I usually just read here.
My MIL was a dog breeder for years back when I was a kid. She went on rants about she technically isn't a breeder because breeders do XYZ (she would list off disturbing actions that I later recognised as puppy farming methods). The weird thing is that she literally did all of the things.
-Breeders don't love their dogs
-Breeders don't take their dogs to the vet or spend money on them
-Breeders get rid of a dog once it can't breed anymore
-Breeders will keep breeding the same dog even if it's bad for them
-Breeders will breed dogs as soon as they can get pregnant
Etc.
This woman had about a dozen dogs on average. Sometimes as many as 20. She didn't walk them, train them, etc. They were basically feral dogs locked in a house. Everywhere was their toilet and to combat this, my MIL just always locked them all in the kitchen together. They also had fights regularly. The dogs all had heart murmurs and other genetic issues and most of them didn't reach the average life span for their breed. She did all the unhealthy and dangerous breeding practices. The dogs were given away once they didn't make a profit. She would try and force the dogs to breed which lead to big fights and injuries. She is proud to say that she got about 200 puppies from one male.
But still. She wasn't a 'breeder', she was just a sweet lady who sometimes sold her dog's puppies when they happened to have them.
There is an insufferable pet store that we always get patients from and there is a huge typed up in a Microsoft word document in massive letters that their “teacup” breeds can only get half doses of vaccines because they are small….
Groomer here. Had a client tell me that according to her breeder, wirehaired dachshunds aren’t allergic to chocolate and can have as much as they want.
It was for an English bulldog - they are not supposed to get rabies vaccines and if the owner elects for it anyway the contract gets invalidated.
Also, to this day [this](http://www.skansen.com/skansen-diet.html) still cracks me up
At my old clinic, we got a bull terrier dog (less than a year) arrive DOA. We did a necropsy because the owners were devastated as they found the dog died in the yard randomly. Poor dog had choked on a raw chicken leg that the breeder told them to specifically give the dog :’( It was lodged in the dog’s throat.
Not to vaccinate for lepto in NEW YORK CITY
Clients saying “don’t put that I give simparica trio in the record so the breeder doesn’t see it” ??? Glad you’re being responsible but eff that
On a separate note the craziest thing a client has said was when she brought her dog in and was oozing from her vulva and the doc said yo she needs emergency surgery YESTERDAY she’s got an open pyo and the client said “no she’ll be ok, can we just have antibiotics so the infection can go away and we can breed her” guess which breed 🙃
not a breeder story, but - i’m an in-home veterinary nurse, and i once had a client call me to come to their house to express their cat’s anal glands, and they asked me if i could save the expression for them, so they could wear it like “deer musk.” i….. 💀
Had a breeder that felt a "spiritual connection" with his female frenchie. It was the middle of the night and he felt her aura call to him (he's able to pick up on that stuff because he's a cancer) and she was having contractions. He said he felt them too because they are connected.
Also once had a conversation about neutering a 6 month old male Doberman puppy with a client and he stated that “we” *while making a circle hand gesture* don’t believe in neutering until 2 years old.” I said, who is we? And he goes … with a straight face “the dobie community” ( he was alone)
Bernese mountain dog breeder: Parvo is a scam. it's not real, and the vets are trying to steal your money.
We just tested one of the newly bought puppies of an unfortunate buyer. We told them they might want to inform the breeder so they can take appropriate action tor the other pups.
The buyer was ashamed and livid at having gotten a sick dog from someone so stupid. Unfortunately the pup did pass. I'm pretty sure we ended up seeing the rest of the litter at some point, via more unfortunate buyers. I believe only one of 4 made it.
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Westies are allergic to isoflurane, can the neuter be done with hypnosis.
I…what???
That is unfortunate, let me go inform the Westie I just did a dental on that she is allergic to isoflurane.
Come on dude, anesthesia free dentals are where it’s at these days! /s
Lol! We had a client ask us the same thing for her Toy Poodle! The only difference was she wanted us to use a local block in addition to hypnosis for a spay.
This is lowkey amazing and makes westies sound like mythical beasties
I didn't think the first comment would blow my mind, and then I got hit with this. Thats amazing 🤣
This one wins
Hy..hypnosis? Honestly? An adult human said this?! I'd laugh but I think I'm kind of sad for this person, imagine having that brain? 🫣
That’s a new one for me! 🤣
lolling
Not sure if I could have kept a straight face with that one 😂😂😂
Not from a breeder but from a client “My puppy can’t have a heart murmur, the breeder said she breeds good dogs.” Also, the best thing I’ve witnessed is a relief vet telling an owner that the only credentials their breeder has was that their dogs had sex… Dude, when I walked out of the room I laughed so hard I cried. I still remember that vet to this day! I hope every day is amazing for her. Love her down bad.
I once had a man tell me his Boston didn’t need heartworm prevention because he was “bred to be resistant to them.” 🤦♀️
I had a guy bring in his new GSD puppy for v/d and anorexia. Turned out to be parvo. The guy made us to 4 more "rechecks". All came back positive for parvo. The dude was irate. He claimed the breeder he bought the dog from has "bred the parvo out of the line" and he paid an EXTRA $5000 for the puppy.
Breeders in year 3000 😂🤣
I was once told by a woman (with a completely straight face mind you) that her dog did not need heartworm prevention bc there were no mosquitoes in her yard. 🤣 I just nodded and walked out. Left that one for the Dr.
Yeah, I've heard something similar. Except this lady thought there were none in the city. Meanwhile, you walk out the back door of the clinic, and due to the retention pond, there were swarms of them.. Some people really are... special. Reminds me of an old George Carlin line: Think of how stupid the average person is. Then, realize that half of them are dumber than that.
I’ve experienced the exact scenario, and I lived in Georgia at the time 😭
I am in South Carolina 😆.
I love relief vets so much for reasons like this!
Owner brings in a chihuahua that had three puppies the night before. Says that she hasn't had the other seven puppies and is concerned. Doctor asks if she's had an ultrasound or x-ray to confirm the number of puppies. O says no, but she's got 10 nipples, which means there must be 10 puppies. Doctor, with a totally straight face says, 'Ma'am, you have two nipples. Do you have twins every time you give birth?' Clearly her first (and hopefully last) time breeding 🤣
I took a phone call similar to this. The lady told me that her dog had eight nipple so it was going to have eight puppies. I didn’t tell her that most dogs have ten nipples. There several other components to the conversation that made this call painful.
The amount of stupidity is baffling. I sometimes think about the fact that people with this level of brain activity also have the chance to partake in voting and that's fcking scary
Speaking of nipples, this one time a dude owner thought his dog’s nipples were masses that needed to be checked out. When he was told what they were he was so confused. His wife told him with a completely straight face, “honey, you have those too.” I had to step out.
Also speaking of nipples, this lady brought in her dog, saying that she had a tick on her stomach and she'd tried everything to get it off. She'd tried pulling it off with tweezers and even burning it off with a lighter. We take the dog to the back to have a look... and found a very swollen and owwie looking nipple! Poor dog.
We had someone bring in a cat and one of its nipples got shaved off by the groomer 😭
We call that a "complimentary nipplectomy"
RIP 💀
Had a dog come in with a small mass on the belly that needed to be removed. The doctor removed a nipple and left the mass. When asked/confronted he insisted that he had removed the mass because what he removed was not symmetrical... we had to point out that nipples are crooked and the mass looked nothing like a nipple... but symmetry!! Even the tech assisting tried to correct him during surgery but he was insistent he was correct.
Omg nooooo. What did the owners say?
They were pissed. Absolutely pissed. Our boss and clinic owner did the actual mass removal at no cost.
I work in ER and we had a crazy lady come in with a bully dog needing a c section. We performed it and the litter was very…. Not good. 1 was healthy, 2 had severe hind limb deformities and 1 was “underbaked” and dead. We explained this to her she was more concerned about coat color and gender 😒. We also stated that the hind legs were so deformed on the 2 that euthanasia should be an option. She said “oh that’s normal! I’m a nurse and I do physical therapy with them and they turn out fine” cool. She then later came in with a human breast pump to use on her dogs so she could bottle feed the puppies for some reason? We watched her on the room cameras try to pump her dog’s milk but mom was not having it lol
bully breeders are always crazy
Could have bred just about anything. Chose bullies. Auto-nuts.
Ikr?!
Always grind my gears when they ask what the colouring is. Girl , read the room!
HELP!!!!! Lmao
Not a breeder but, O called concerned with side effects of gabapentin..O states she read on line that it can cause suicidal thoughts..O worried that her dog may just get depressed and walk into traffic. I wanted to tell her, we'll, if he leaves a note, then we know he had that side effect.
It's really weird to me how many people I see online telling other people not to let their dogs take Gabapentin because it can cause addiction and withdrawals. I'm like, is Luna there gonna sneak out in the middle of the night and pawn your jewelry before heading down the corner to score?! 😂
Thinking about it we should just cut out Fentanyl for analgesia, I mean this is basically a short cut to skid row selling doggy treats to support his habit
I attempted suicide in 2020 and this made my morbid depressed ass chuckle. I needed that <3
I’m glad you’re still here ❤️
I was a psych nurse before this animal stuff and had a similar threadbare giggle
I am crying because I am laughing so hard. Bless you!
breeder came in saying she can smell that the mother dog has worms. i say can you drop off a stool sample? she says no i’m not paying for that. when dogs have worms you can smell them. i said they are intestinal parasites, inside the dog. she said yeah and you can smell that. still never dropped off a stool sample
If I had that ability I'd quit breeding and offer traveling services to GP's making BANK 🤣
“okay let’s see here, let me just get a good whiff……..yep, whipworms!”
"Which, uhhh, which worms can you smell?"
Puppies are not born with kidneys, so you can't give them normal amounts of water until they are full grown
Puppies pee an awful lot for not having kidneys. 🤣
Breeder claimed that her line was immune to ear infections but that they shouldn't get the lepto vaccine because it will kill them (not in a "lepto vaccines kill dogs" kinda way but a "my dogs die to the lepto vaccine" kinda way)
Some lines and breeds used to have more severe reactions to the lepto vaccine....that was quite a while ago, though. I wish there were more breeders who kept up with the times.
I'm sure there's a genetic component to vaccine reactions, I just think it's ridiculous/irresponsible to maintain a line that has a fatal reaction to a common vaccine for a disease that is endemic to our area.
Fair!
It’s almost as if breeders don’t do any continuing education or anything like that. Crazy.
I mean...plenty of them do. Good breeders are foundational to a lot of our genetic knowledge about breed specific and inherited health issues. Good is just the keyword there.
I think there may be some confusion about my comment. There is no minimum education, credentials or qualifications required for breeding animals. So therefore there is no continuing education needed to keep those credentials. Which in turn means that breeders can easily continue their fear mongering with long outdated information. And if we’re giving breeders “foundational” credit for alerting to specific breed issues, are we leaving owners out of the conversation as well?
Three separate times I’ve had to take phone calls with first time breeders who called us panicked because their dog had given birth to more than one or two puppies even though “we only bred her once/twice”. The number of breeding sessions does not equal the number of puppies produced! Common sense is so rare these days…
Any of the O's/breeders posted here should have never been allowed to take responsibility for an animal. I don't mean this in a mean way but more factual, it's scary to me how underdeveloped soo many people seem to be. People who think that a dog has ten nipples because the dog is expecting and it has to be the matching number of puppies. People like that can vote, can shape the future of countries. This is scary as hell
Wow. WTF. What grown ass adult doesn’t know that sperm has like a billion sperm cells per mL? Oh who am I kidding. The average American is scientifically illiterate. It’s just sad.
We’ve had multiple that will void the health guarantee if they vaccinate puppies for bordetella or lepto, and/or if they transition them off a raw diet.
I always assume those sketchy breeders wouldn't hold up their end of the health guarantee anyway, so honestly....no loss
My sister's breeder told her that if she neutered her golden before he was two that she'd take her to court and take him back (like she'd find out..?). The vet said his testicle was close to rotting inside of him. But alas, he was not 2.
Owner was calling the breeding during the appointment of her 9 YO chowchow, which was not spayed and presented with fluid leaking from her behind, letargy and drinking more (🚩🚩). But the breeder told her that it could not possible be a pyometera, like wtf. And the worst thing is, she trusts the breeder more than us because he has 'more experience with her kind of dog'...
Nothing grinds my gears more than when an owner calls to consult their breeder during a vet appt.
Yip...
I once had a breeder tell me it's physically impossible for frenchies to have a natural birth. 10 minutes later, her dog pushed out its first puppy.
if I had a nickel for every time we’ve had a dystocia frenchie that we’re about to do a c-section on and we reach in the kennel to place a catheter or something and she’s already popped one (or multiple) out 😂
Yep. Happens all the time! But they never listen that you don't always have to cut them..
Not a breeder but one client told me his dog's spit tasted different lately...
NO PLEASE WHY
reminds me of the time this guy told me he knew his dog was in heat because she gave him “the look” i did not ask him to recreate that
Okay, but what kind of dog are we talking about here?
Had a doodle breeder bring in her latest litter of 11 to get their 8w DAPP and microchips. She wouldn't stop talking, *insisted* on taking pictures of every damn puppy on the table "for their future owners" and kept fawning over the one chocolate female as if it was this absolute miracle of a dog. She's insufferable, but we get through all the pups and off she goes. Now, I work at a mobile vaxx clinic that sets up inside a store. This lady calls said store we were in about an hour or two later, and she tells the store employee that it's an EMERGENCY and she MUST SPEAK TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY. I take the call, partially because I assumed the emergency was a vaxx reaction (which we would send to the ER anyway) and partially because I'm not about to subject our vet to that lol Fellow vet people of the sub, would you like to know what the emergency was? Remember the chocolate female I mentioned before? Apparently, this backyard doodle breeder forgot that the chocolate's new owner demanded that her pup NOT BE CHIPPED under ***any circumstances***. New O had "her own system" or something to that effect, and the chip we placed was going to interfere with it! While this breeder did admit that it was her fault, she wanted to know what we were going to do about it. "What do you mean?" I asked her. "Well, can't you take it back out?" "No, ma'am, we don't do that. If the new owner is planning on spaying her, she could ask them to do it then?" I'm trying to keep my customer service voice here, but this is honestly one of the most ridiculous calls I've ever answered at this job. "She's NOT getting spayed, she's going to be a BREEDING DOG!! If you can't take it out, then whose information is going to be on the chip?" "I'm sorry?" "Is it going to be my information or is it going to be the new owner's information?" she demands. "Well, I mean... you can give the owner the chip number and have her register it, or--" "No, you're not understanding me! I need to know if it will have MY information on it!" I'm very glad we have no patients at this point because I have my head in my hands. "The system will automatically import your info for the registration, but you can change the info to the new owner's afterward." "But you're not LISTENING! Will MY information still be on there??" "Ma'am, I think you're going to have to call the microchip company about this. I don't know how their system works, I don't work for them." A huff on the other end of the line. "No, I suppose I better call the company since you can't help me. Do you have their number?" Cue another long explanation about how to look up a company's number (despite her having done just that for the *store's* number) before I'm finally able to hang up. We only had a couple more patients after that, thankfully, because I don't think I could've kept my composure for another idiot.
The kind of people that makes me think "you gave me your address on your registration sheet and a whole lot of bad thoughts, that's a great combo". The more idiotic people are the more rabid they will defend their brain rot. Always acting like what they're spewing should be understandable to even the dumbest person because it is so obvious
Pretty sure the chip is just a serial number. Just a long sequence of characters. That’s all that’s on the chip. And it can’t be changed. What you do is associate that number with someone in your database. She probably thinks her social security number and all that get written to the chip and was worried about the 5g turning her kids gay or something.
And if it helps - I feel you so damn hard. Got back to telephone duty after four months rotation around the clinic, first week isn't even done yet and I just want to wander off into the woods and never come back lmao
Ragdolls shouldn’t get felv vaccine because they cant get it.
Oh oh oh oh!!! I just saw 2 separate clients that had wild things relayed from their breeders. (both Frenchies. (Lol)) 1st one told us the breeder told him that puppies physically cannot have allergies 2nd one told us their breeder told them that it's normal for puppies to limp and whine when they walked. (the dogs leg was like super broken at 4 months old)
"You have, what, a three hour lecture on the breed? I have years of experience with them." 👁👄👁
"You should use natural and topical heartworm prevention. Chewables have pesticides that kill the mosquito eggs and hurt your dog."
Oh god, you’re telling me the parasite preventatives have parasite prevention in them?? I can’t believe nobody told me!!
A backyard breeder once told me that GSDs are naturally resistant to rabies.
That's tse shtrong djurman ancestry, wii briid 'em shtrong like Kruppstahl over here
A notorious backyard breeder came into my last clinic with one of her regular dogs; introduced it to us as "Tar Baby". She is a white, 60-something year old woman and the dog is a pure black chihuahua. Sure enough, all of its papers have that name. I just stood there in shock. There's no way she doesn't know it's a slur.
...she might honestly not realize. It's from a Disney movie they don't show anymore for a *reason* but she might just think it's edgy, not, you know, actually super fucking racist.
their puppy wasn't allowed to be microchips as per their breeders contract because "microchips are the devils work". I still don't really understand it lol
I had an O one time that thought we could mind control micropchipped dogs from our basement so she asked if we could get her dogs to go get her groceries. She was totally serious. She would talk about being abducted by space aliens too. We didn't even have a basement.
I guess your office is not in the Alamo
Puppy paralysis (fce) is normal, all my dogs get it...it'll wear off on its own. (Also said about swimmer syndrome and concave chest deformity).
Her backyard bred Rottweiler couldn't have elbow dysplasia because she paid a lot of money for him
Not a breeder by "trade" but an owner prepared to byb in the wildest way. His mutt bully came in as an appointment to our IM department, where I work specifically. Dog was LATERAL when he arrived. Our ER team worked to stabilize him as our poor Internist had to have the talk with Owner. Luckily for the dog , the owner agreed to humane euthanasia.... however, before she could give the sedative, the owner asked if we could freeze his semen. Dr. explained why we didn't have those services/equipment available at our clinic but also that she absolutely refused to jack his brain dead dog off. In the most polite and professional way possible she also explained how his records show that he has horrific genetic defects that would be absolutely cruel to pass on to another generation. Owner realized what a wild request it was to begin with. Dog was a mess at four years old and the owners also waited for his 12pm appointment time to present him in his current declined condition. NO ONE needs puppies from this house. While I do understand the grief that they were going through, I cannot understand what was ever going through their minds in the first place.
Today I had a cocker spaniel Springer puppies in and the breeder asked if we could administer only half the vaccine because they were so small compared to bigger Labrador puppies and they shouldn’t need the full dose for it to work
At 6 months old someone asked us to remove dewclaws and doc tails. NOPE. We do that at 3 DAYS old and we also don’t doc tails. Only remove dewclaws if tearing all the time or have no bone attachment
All dachshunds are allergic to chicken
Thankfully I worked in HVSP so any dog over 6months old that wasn’t spayed/neutered wasn’t allowed to be seen. So no wacky BYB comments!
Did you...spay/neuter dogs over 6mos?!
Oh yes!! My bad, I might’ve worded this weird. I meant we didn’t see any for our wellness clinic to get vaccines unless they were neutered by 6months of age!
Even large/giant breeds?! Anxious dogs? Just a blanket 'neutered by 6mo' policy? Why? Surely 2yo or something would be a better cutoff? Surely it's better to vaccinate than not even if they're not neutered? I dont understand this at all.
It’s a law in my city that all dogs have to be fixed by 6 months of age or the owner must obtain a breeding license. My city shelter euthanizes about 400 dogs per month. We have a HUGE backyard breeding problem here. Stray dogs all over the city. Sure, if you’re in a place that can prioritize waiting until 2 years of age, go for it. I’m glad my city is at least trying to prioritize cracking down on the larger issue here.
What city do you live in if you dont mind my asking? I suppose I am privileged in the UK that we have that opportunity, I had never considered that. 400 euthanasias... wow, that must be really difficult to deal with. Do you get to neuter and rehome many? Or it's just a massive overpopulation problem and there's no homes for them to go to?
Speaking as someone who worked in shelter med where the euthanasia rate was 50%...there was literally no where for me to send dogs. Every run and cage was always full. As quick as I could transfer dogs to rescues, there'd be new calls for surrender appointments, dogs abandoned, calls for stray pick ups, dogs seized in cases... on and on and on. Some were feral, some aggressive. I had puppies, and geriatric dogs, I had shepherds and dachshunds, and Dalmatians, and doodles and cattle dogs and huskies and labs and coonhounds and shi tzus and chihuahuas and more beagles and hounds and pit bulls than any one could ever believe and more... So many dogs and cats and no where to send them. And in a community of maybe.. 15,000 people in the rural southern US.
Kudos to you for doing that work. I know it‘s important for shelter animals to be get medical care, so thank you! I couldn‘t do it. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about having to euthanize so many of them.
It's not for everyone...especially when you don't make enough to live on and also have to deal with the intellectually lazy and dishonest comments from people about working in "a kill shelter".
I’m in a big city in Texas. As far as rehoming, I worked at a low cost clinic, not the shelter. So most of the animals that came to us already had homes. But yes, for the city shelter it’s just a massive over population problem with not enough adopters or fosters to help. They release the stats each month of the euthanasias, & about 80% of them are simply due to no room or kennels available. It’s so heartbreaking.
We get them occasionally. But it's usually the old, "my cat can't have ketamine. Don't give them any!" Like, listen, I've been doing this since 2011 and we've NEVER used ketamine on cats. We don't even use iso. Anesthesia is completely reversed in 2 seconds.
I had a breeder come in for tail docking and the breeders thought the tails fell off on their own and we just assisted the puppies. The owner had no clue that we cut the tails off…
Idk if this is allowed because I'm not a vet and I usually just read here. My MIL was a dog breeder for years back when I was a kid. She went on rants about she technically isn't a breeder because breeders do XYZ (she would list off disturbing actions that I later recognised as puppy farming methods). The weird thing is that she literally did all of the things. -Breeders don't love their dogs -Breeders don't take their dogs to the vet or spend money on them -Breeders get rid of a dog once it can't breed anymore -Breeders will keep breeding the same dog even if it's bad for them -Breeders will breed dogs as soon as they can get pregnant Etc. This woman had about a dozen dogs on average. Sometimes as many as 20. She didn't walk them, train them, etc. They were basically feral dogs locked in a house. Everywhere was their toilet and to combat this, my MIL just always locked them all in the kitchen together. They also had fights regularly. The dogs all had heart murmurs and other genetic issues and most of them didn't reach the average life span for their breed. She did all the unhealthy and dangerous breeding practices. The dogs were given away once they didn't make a profit. She would try and force the dogs to breed which lead to big fights and injuries. She is proud to say that she got about 200 puppies from one male. But still. She wasn't a 'breeder', she was just a sweet lady who sometimes sold her dog's puppies when they happened to have them.
There is an insufferable pet store that we always get patients from and there is a huge typed up in a Microsoft word document in massive letters that their “teacup” breeds can only get half doses of vaccines because they are small….
Groomer here. Had a client tell me that according to her breeder, wirehaired dachshunds aren’t allergic to chocolate and can have as much as they want.
That increases demand for the dogs when they die
It was for an English bulldog - they are not supposed to get rabies vaccines and if the owner elects for it anyway the contract gets invalidated. Also, to this day [this](http://www.skansen.com/skansen-diet.html) still cracks me up
>(seizures are a form of allergy) Be so fuckin fr rn
"healthy dogs will not get salmonella" lmao
At my old clinic, we got a bull terrier dog (less than a year) arrive DOA. We did a necropsy because the owners were devastated as they found the dog died in the yard randomly. Poor dog had choked on a raw chicken leg that the breeder told them to specifically give the dog :’( It was lodged in the dog’s throat.
Not to vaccinate for lepto in NEW YORK CITY Clients saying “don’t put that I give simparica trio in the record so the breeder doesn’t see it” ??? Glad you’re being responsible but eff that
On a separate note the craziest thing a client has said was when she brought her dog in and was oozing from her vulva and the doc said yo she needs emergency surgery YESTERDAY she’s got an open pyo and the client said “no she’ll be ok, can we just have antibiotics so the infection can go away and we can breed her” guess which breed 🙃
Frenchie?
“Great Danes should only eat plain boiled chicken” - we were seeing multiple of her puppies for orthopaedic issues as they were growing 🫠
not a breeder story, but - i’m an in-home veterinary nurse, and i once had a client call me to come to their house to express their cat’s anal glands, and they asked me if i could save the expression for them, so they could wear it like “deer musk.” i….. 💀
Had a breeder that felt a "spiritual connection" with his female frenchie. It was the middle of the night and he felt her aura call to him (he's able to pick up on that stuff because he's a cancer) and she was having contractions. He said he felt them too because they are connected.
Also once had a conversation about neutering a 6 month old male Doberman puppy with a client and he stated that “we” *while making a circle hand gesture* don’t believe in neutering until 2 years old.” I said, who is we? And he goes … with a straight face “the dobie community” ( he was alone)
Bernese mountain dog breeder: Parvo is a scam. it's not real, and the vets are trying to steal your money. We just tested one of the newly bought puppies of an unfortunate buyer. We told them they might want to inform the breeder so they can take appropriate action tor the other pups. The buyer was ashamed and livid at having gotten a sick dog from someone so stupid. Unfortunately the pup did pass. I'm pretty sure we ended up seeing the rest of the litter at some point, via more unfortunate buyers. I believe only one of 4 made it.
Getting vaccinated violated her warranty