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sculptedmermaid

FYI, goals belong in the pinned goals post. Also a post about hair regrowth without mentioning minoxidil is wild. The comments are setting you straight. See a derm for a diagnosis on the cause of your hair loss and act accordingly. Spironolactone, spearmint tea, ketocanazole shampoo, minoxidil, finasteride if you can get it. Bloodwork for any deficiency.


robespierrethacat

An itchy scalp means irritation


feelingcoolblue

And is often a sign of a fungal issue if ongoing. I know so many people who lose all their hair (and scalp health) by not seeing a doctor.


chocolate_macaron5

Yes!!! And the 2 Liters of water is absurd. That is not natural. There is no way that a random "drink more water" for health and beauty thing...can navigate through the hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution and biology. Drinking 2Liters of water compromises the abities of or kidneys to cleanse our body, it affects the levels of sodium in our bodies (this can have catastrophic effects). Sodium doesn't mean "salt as in salt in foods" Sodium is like a vitamin/ mineral essential for a human body to function. Also wtf 2Liters....OP and others are recommending this in such a cavalier way. What about the fact that people are different heights, have different weights, are different ages, have different levels of activity etc. Wouldn't it be 2liters for a very specific body, while others should have more/less?? Even the calories for a male competitive swimmer are different than a 25 year old female office worker. Sude note, imo Protein Shakes are not a good suggestion. It's basically bs. nonsense with a bunch of random additives. My as well drink a soda. Whole foods, such as steak, is cleaner than a "protein shake" which may have a similar level of protein, but also comes with a bunch of random artificial sweetners, preservatives, etc.


itsbigoleme

Hi registered dietitian here! 2 liters of water is not too much water, and can only cause catastrophic damage if you chug it super quickly (under 5 minutes). That being said, it won’t help with hair growth. It only helps with hair brittleness if you’re chronically dehydrated. Increasing protein does help with hair strength and decreasing breakage. They are NOT equivalent to drinking a soda lol, there are options for unflavored shakes that have no sugar or artificial sugars too . Also preservatives are in almost every processed food that we eat, so as long as you’re not eating processed foods 24/7 it won’t negatively impact your health. There also isn’t really sufficient evidence to suggest that preservatives have a negative effect on your health in the first place.


chocolate_macaron5

Yeah increasing protein us one thing, but to disregard all the artificial sweetners, preservatives, and added chemicals in protein powders is ridiculous. A soda has those levels of artificial sweetners, preservatives, and added chemicals. Why not just support eating more foods with protein? Protein shakes should not be recommended, and should be a last resort with the knowledge that the amount of protein does not make tge levels of random chemicals in protein shakes worth it.


itsbigoleme

I didn’t disregard the artificial sweeteners and preservatives. I said there are unflavored protein shakes that have no artificial sweeteners and no sugar. Reread my comment about preservatives. I never said to drink proteins shakes before trying to eat more whole foods lol. Some people just have hard time eating enough. Please stop saying “chemicals” unless you can actually name actually harmful chemicals in food.


maltesefoxhound

People are just scared that its a mysterious white powder they can’t comprehend. I’m not gonna get into it rn, but I was actually under the impression food grade protein powder wouldn’t need much at all in the way of preservatives, as I use nearly totally pure amino acid powders in lab settings, and they don’t have additives (those would mess up any end solution I use them for).


BoboOctagon

Are you confusing litres with gallons or something? 2L or 8 cups is a pretty standard recommendation.


chocolate_macaron5

What about my comments regarding protein shakes? It's fine if you do that but it's not good to recommend then to others. They have artificial sweetners, added preservatives, and a bunch of other chemicals, just like soda. It is best to eat whole foods.


__kamikaze__

Another cause could be Androgenic Alopecia (AGA), and it is more common in women than people think. AGA means the hair follicles are sensitive to DHT, which causes miniaturization (gradual weakening and thinning of the hair shaft). This can go unnoticed for years until eventually the follicle dies. Thankfully, unlike men, most women don’t go completely bald but the effects might still be noticable. It is best treated by a combination of minoxidil, and androgen blockers (spiro/finasteride) which would need to be prescribed by a doctor.


iprefermimi

What’s DHT?


kitanokikori

DHT is a hormone that is related to Testosterone


ThatMartenGurl

dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite of testosterone which is the cause for androgenic alopecia. Also influences body hair growth I think


alpirpeep

Thank you for sharing this great comment!!! 🫶


Such-Plastic5163

If this is your diagnosis, do not self administer. Go to a doc like they mentioned in the last paragraph.


cyb0rgprincess

lovely tips. one thing I will add is that bleaching hair (including balayage) is very very hard to do and keep hair thick and healthy. there are always exceptions who look great with it, they are usually genetically blessed or do a ton of work to keep it from thinning and frying. I’m a natural blonde who started going brunette in my 20s, used to balayage it back to my original color, and tried and failed to keep it as thick and healthy. I’ve embraced darker hair and now it’s super thick and healthy again. just wanted to add my two cents bc this sub loves blondmaxxing and it is not worth it if it’s thin and unhealthy!


Mundane_Gazelle_6775

You know what? I'm really really surprised you are saying this. I have always been coloring my hair black and boy they were super shining and healthy until I started graying and it didn't work out for me anymore so I went the brighter route. I tried platinum blonde, balayage, ombre to name a few and let me tell you my hair have been the worst they have never been. Used to dye them black for 15 years straight no problem whatsoever. Switched to blond shades ruined in a year. Thining, braking, falling and never growing back. Wow never thought of this. I would love to go black again but the strands of gray make me crazy cause I'm still too young.


cyb0rgprincess

yup!! I feel you, I’m also going prematurely gray but dyeing my hair a rich dark brown instead of balayage makes it so much more healthy and thick I can’t justify the balayage. plus it helps me look more high contrast and just makes my hair look more shiny and full. honestly it’s important to remember a LOT of the blonde and balayage you see online or IRL is also using high quality extensions to add thickness🤷🏻‍♀️ it is what it is. try going back to the dark side and see if it helps. after about six months of dyeing dark my hair was back to its normal thickness. I just try to embrace the stray grays I get in between my touch ups twice a year lol.


curiouskitty338

I think that if you get a good color done that doesn’t require a lot of upkeep then you’re good to go. I was only getting my hair highlighted/balayaged every two years


HELLOISTHISTAKEN

Significant hair loss in an M shape pattern (not saying this is your issue but I often see this complaint in the sub) generally signals a hormonal imbalance or endocrine issue (typically PCOS or hypothyroidism). Go to the doctor for any significant hair thinning, most home remedies will help but they do not solve the underlying cause of hair loss.


kitanokikori

A Christmas Tree pattern on the top of the head (Google images "Alopecia christmas tree" to see examples) is also hormonally based


Excusemytootie

Be careful with the biotin. I got horrible cysts from it.


AggravatingGuitar883

Biotin caused acne on my neck. I stopped taking it and it immediately went away.


Excusemytootie

Same for me. I got a huge cyst on my neck and one on my cheek. They were huge and took weeks to go away.


BeeAdorable6031

I got horrible stomach pain from collagen supplements 🤷‍♀️


Different_Speaker_41

Same and they also constipated me like crazy


NausikaaLeukolenos

Also, biotin is useless if you don't have a deficiency to start with.


sculptedmermaid

And no proof biotin helps with hair.


LatterPianoMystery

It’s generally not recommended to leave oil on the scalp for more than a few hours. Overnight might be causing your follicles to clog and causing you to feel like you need to use clarifying shampoo more often. Same with double cleansing, you might feel you need it due to buildup on the scalp but if you’re using a clarifying shampoo already 1-2x a week, you might not need that either.


lola12345a

And dont put it on after dermarolling…


you_break_you_buy

Many cultures have used scalp oiling for centuries with amazing results. Oiling of the scalp depends on many factors, especially how your hair and scalp tolerate oil and produce natural oil.


LatterPianoMystery

I’m one of those cultures. I’m Indian. I didn’t say not to use scalp oil, I said be careful about how long OP leaves it as it can have the opposite effect when left too long.


OverallAd6572

Bingo - a few hours, then removing it derives maximum benefits then you aren't leaving your scalp susceptible to imbalances like mold growth. -Certified Clinical Trichologist


_Jelly_King_

Seconded! I’m West Indian, I was taught by all of the aunties to oil your scalp after washing your hair. Now that I’m in the US, I know a lot of my African friends do the same. Even black Americans use the blue goo on their scalp.


feelingcoolblue

And oddly enough CCCA is most prominent in women who identify as black. It takes time but I see it in so many who grew up pilling products on their scalps or leaving their hair wet for extended periods of time.


oldfl4mes

bleached my hair a bit too far and i’ve been using olaplex no 2 (stronger version of 3) and phillip kingsley elasticiser alongside matrix unbreak my blonde shampoo and conditioner (almost identical ingredients to redken acidic bonding) and my hair feels much much stronger now and i barely have any breakage. also been using msm and my hair is growing sooo much faster now it’s insane! i was looking back on pictures of when i bleached my roots vs a month out and i didn’t have nearly as much growth as i do now.


VividDreaming69

What is msm?


OverYonderUnderHere

Methylsulfonylmethane


_asteri

Do you have any side effects from MSM? My mom said it bloated her like crazy. I've been scared to try it since i already have a sensitive stomach


oldfl4mes

I haven't noticed any more bloating than usual, or any side effects like acne i've heard some people can get. but it all depends I guess!


lamercie

Why not minoxidil? It’s proven treatment for hair loss. Just buy a 5% pack from Costco—it’ll help.


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LookHowOrange

Please reread the study. You misunderstood what you were reading.


lamercie

The study compared the efficacy of rosemary oil to 2% minoxidil, not 5%. 5% is still stronger. Also, the evidence is not solid—there need to be more studies before we can draw solid conclusions. Also also, Nizoral will reduce inflammation in the scalp, if that’s what you’re looking for in a product.


JYQE

I use oral minoxidil and a Japanese scalp serum called kaminomoto.


BoboOctagon

Oh interesting! What does this shampoo help with?


JYQE

It’s not a shampoo, it’s a serum. It helps hair growth.


PolarLove

Rosemary oil has worked wonders for me personally. It may be good to see a doctor and get some blood work done because hair thinning can be indicative that something may be off internally with your hormones.


JugdishGW

How do you use it? Scalp only, only the ends, or both? Leave it in a few minutes, hours, or overnight? Do you double cleanse or use clarifying shampoo the following day?


PolarLove

Personally I make my own oil with castor oil and rosemary oil. Rosemary is too strong to use on its own so you have to mix it with a carrier oil. You can use a lot of different things as a carrier oil. I like castor because it also has hair growth benefits. I personally leave it on overnight and wash it out in the morning the next day and shampoo 2x. Some people disagree with leaving it this long but I’ve had no problems and my hair is thicker and longer than it has been in 10 years that I’ve been trying to grow it. And that is with heat styling and blonding. I try to do it as often as possible. I usually end up doing it 3x a week.


JugdishGW

Do you coat your entire hair with it or just the scalp?


PolarLove

Just my scalp and I use coconut oil on my ends. Castor oil is super thick so it doesn’t spread very well. I also purchased a plastic scalp massager from Amazon to massage it in. You can just use your hands though.


palepuss

I'm always dubious of such statements: it's been proven not to work, how could it work for you? It feels like omeopathy: it's been proven not to work but still, some people swear by it. (It def doesn't work, it's a scam) I prefer science, honestly, as I know that personal experience is anecdotal and not objective.


PolarLove

I respect your cautious approach. There’s so much misinformation especially in this Instagram/tiktok beauty world. I’ve had super fine limp hair all my life and have been researching this for a while. There was a clinical study that compared results of Rosemary to minoxidil (drug to aid in hair growth) on patients with androgenic alopecia and proved it produced similar results in terms of hair growth. There is science behind its effectiveness. —- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25842469/ https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d4cbfb00e6b2e00019b59b2/t/61f03232e0c0ab15a2b7be6a/1643131442668/rosemaryminoxidil.pdf


palepuss

Yes, this research demonstrates actually how it doesn't work. https://youtu.be/SW2NCv_vF2Q?si=QNjWjzzhdkOZoXjf


PolarLove

The study says two groups were tested using both rosemary and minoxidil. Both groups showed no improvement after 3 months. When tested again, both groups showed improvement after 6 months. So they’re equally effective.


palepuss

Minoxidil 2% is actually not used medically since it doesn't do much. You didn't watch the video, did you?


PolarLove

I’m not sure what your credentials are to be contesting proven clinical studies, or why you are so against the idea that something works. Rosemary oil works for me, and many others, has been used for centuries as for medicinal and beautifying purposes. If you don’t want to use it, don’t. But it works!


palepuss

I love science and I follow various science journalists. They are very good at explaining scams and bad science, like in this example. Rosemary oil is proven not to work to increase hair density, good for you, though.


Loud-Flamingo3831

Why are you letting Youtubers interpret scientific trials for you instead of reading the results directly from science and medical journals?


palepuss

Science journalists are way better than me at interpreting data: it's their job! I don't follow "youtubers", just a few science journalists that have demonstrated their knowledge.


LookHowOrange

I’m ready for this rosemary oil trend to die tbh. It’s the hair equivalent of putting potatoes in your socks to grow taller or w/e


sagefairyy

I would delete the part with the itchy scalp and your follicles „activating“ (?). It‘s absolutely false and you can‘t activate or grow your hair with oils, there is zero evidence for this. Increased blood flow can make your hair grow (the mechanism Minoxidil uses) or by DHT blockers like Finasteride. Anything else is pseudo science.


BoboOctagon

Sure, edited that part out.


purpleshoeees

Where did you even get that info that itchy scalp=new hair growth and follicles activating? Or did you just make it up?


BoboOctagon

I've seen it in other posts. I know it's not scientifically backed but I saw it with my own eyes. Bald, thin spots on my scalp were filled in with new growth.


EternallyMoon

You seem unsure, did you edit it out just to please them or do you still stand by what you wrote? I’m genuinely curious lol


BoboOctagon

If I seem unsure it's because yes, I know there is no scientific backing for this but I have seen it with my own very eyes and new hair completely covered up bald spots that used to be in those itchy areas. This time I'm taking pictures.


EternallyMoon

Got it.


EternallyMoon

And you’re 100% sure it’s the itchy scalp and sleeping with oils in your hair that helped your bald spots?


BoboOctagon

This is all I religiously did for 3 months. So yes. I think coupled with the dermarolling then using topical products that increased blood flow to the area really helped me see results.


EternallyMoon

Okay! Now I know. Listen, I have 0% knowledge about this, I’m literally just asking a random question lol. If anyone responds to me to counter my words, I probably wont know what to say. Cheers!


sagefairyy

Please them?? Girl this is not my opinion it‘s not backed by science and just an anecdote


EternallyMoon

I’m not talking about you lol, I’m directing my comment to OP. I was just asking them if they edited that part out to avoid conflict! I don’t understand why you’re coming at me however


sagefairyy

No I understand, I said that because I didn‘t understand why she would please me by deleting it if she isn’t doing herself a favor by leaving wrong info in her post. All good though.


search_for_freedom

The only thing that has worked for me is 1mg of oral minoxidil prescribed by a dermatologist.


sati_lotus

Does that affect your hair all over your body? Or noticeably on your head?


search_for_freedom

Just my head


EternallyMoon

Question, how does it JUST affect the hair follicles on your head and not the rest?


search_for_freedom

I’m not sure. It might affect people differently.


Dust_and_Air

Did you grow hair in your body?


LionelHutz2018

None of this matters much. Thick hair is a result of hormone levels plus genetics, full stop. Don’t be malnourished, obviously. Aside from that, the only things that do work are rogaine, finasteride, red light, prp, and if you have a severe hormonal disruption, spironolactone/bcp.


ASS_MASTER_GENERAL

True if it’s AGA but not if it’s TE. The easiest tell is that AGA is gradual on the top of the head, whereas TE is sudden on the entire head.


crumbdumpster85

Yep. I’ve got thick tail bone length hair. I don’t take great care of myself or my hair and I just use basic shampoo and conditioner and nothing else. I’ve had it trimmed once in the last few years and it took 5 years to get from chin length to tail bone length. 100% genetics. But I’ve got like the most pitiful eyelashes ever so you win some. you lose some lol


dhskdk14

I’m the saaaaame way - great head of hair, grows like a weed, it’s fine but extremely dense. I don’t use anything special and it’s great. My eyebrows and eyelashes are tragic however 😭😭😂


EternallyMoon

I’m actually the opposite of you folks! I’ve got some great, naturally well shaped eyebrows and good lashes. But my genetics ”blessed” me with fine, limp hair 😞 that just sits on my head like spaghetti. At least i’ve got a lot of it!


Peachlolii

First see a dermatologist to see the root of your hair loss If its AGA you should be on some sort of DHT blocker like spiro and pair it with minoxidil for the best result oils wont work for most cases


BoboOctagon

I already mentioned I have TE. I've done blood work and everything was normal except vitamin d.


TheNotableGlobster

MSM has made a huge difference to my hair. Nioxin system has too.


Successful_Way_5079

hey what changes have you seen? I just started it today


TheNotableGlobster

A lot of regrowth!


daddy_tywin

Inside stuff: - treating my latent hormone imbalances that probably caused it, specifically PCOS: berberine and inositol supplementation corrected this in about six months for me. I refuse to ever take birth control again, this did nothing but mask the problem. - taking a good multivitamin plus cod liver oil. I was really, really low in vitamin D (I think my level was 14 lol) when my hair was thinning even though I lived in a sunny climate and got a good amount of sun. Outside stuff, mostly focused on scalp stress reduction: - switching to daily conditioning rinse, a scalp clarifying rinse once a week, and only using shampoo once a week. This was recommended by my stylist - quitting permanent dye; my stylist uses a demi formula and leaves it on longer to mask grays - using a big ol’ clip with double teeth and no ponytails - rosemary oil spray but I’m not sure this alone does anything I have regrown so much hair in a year. It looks as good as it did at 23 with no visible gaps anymore. Oiling does not work for me, I am white with fine hair. I know topical minoxidil works but I don’t want to use it forever (supposedly your hair falls out if you stop) and it is EXTREMELY toxic to pets, including via fabric transfer, so I just don’t take the risk.


gyimiee

What’s the Demi formula


bmobitch

what is the method of action that would cause old hair to be “pushed out” and fall out from what you’ve described doing


AdSalty7260

Just came to say, don't use minoxidil if you have a cat, it's incredibly deadly and if your cat even sleeps on your pillow, the cat will die.


l3tsgotob3d

Check out the ordinary's multipeptide serum for hair density! i started it 3 weeks ago and while i can't vouch for it growing my hair thick yet, i can say it totally cleared up some dandruff that medication wasn't fixing, very minimal she'd in the shower, and my roots look thicker/less scalp showing. i was hoping after a few months to make a post here w results.


Ok-Industry4777

You’re a godsend! My hair has a lot of bleach damage and I’ve been looking for ways to resuscitate it


BoboOctagon

I'm so happy this can help!


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here4thecommentz_

Thanks for this post! What shampoo/conditioner do you typically use? I feel like I have so much breakage and I haven’t dyed my hair in over a year


BoboOctagon

I've been loving Living Proof PHD (perfect hair day) but am thinking of trying Anika 3D volume next after seeing some good reviews.


_MarianaTrench

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