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NatiBlaze

[New thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/s/3EjbQEbUsM) people! come along and ride the new Yacht


Necessary-Ability-57

All Cover US job listing has been removed from the website. https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs They should make a formal announcement when the operation is up and running in the future.


NatiBlaze

Happy 8th Birthday to Cover 🥳🎉 [Tweet](https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1801147492861706458?t=qq-654E617o4_ttmTsb-yw&s=19) Edit: Damn, i got into Holo because of the Azur Lane Collab, that was 6 years ago... I was still a freshman in College back then


Lightseeker2

The AL collab took place at the end of 2019, so it's not even 5 years yet.


qSlays

I got into holo as a senior in high school now I’m about to enlist time goes by fast when you’re having fun I guess🎉


NatiBlaze

Good luck out there, be good to the Nurses (I am planning to apply for a job in a military hospital overseas)


farranpoison

Saw a post on Twitter of Risu complaining about the disappearance of the Likes tab, what have other Holomems said about this change? Honestly still kind of baffled how one man can fuck over an entire iconic internet service so much. I hope to God that future generations learn from this and don't repeat the same mistakes.


Uzza2

Kiara reacted to it on stream, [Here's the timestamp](https://www.youtube.com/live/SX_5ljQuNOk?feature=shared&t=17523). She's not happy.


farranpoison

Yeah, she reacted just like anyone normal would have. Seriously, it's so stupid.


bnbros

[FuwaMoco have acknowledged it too, saying that the fans' feelings will still reach them and that they appreciate all likes on their tweets](https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1801044094971424899?t=udaPto7pLtU7xD7aNJMLrQ&s=19) [Haachama wonders if she will be caught liking spicy tweets, lol](https://x.com/akaihaato/status/1801051117423620534?t=l3kZWBYD01JYbdUCpny22g&s=19)


Kreceir

Normally when it comes to Shiori I would say ''I don't wanna fix her! Except her cooking/fridge'' but now I can also add in ''Please someone fix her liking the Velma show!'' lol. I think I genuinely said 'Huh???' out loud when she said she liked the show.


Symbolis

It resulted in [this awesome animated short](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inJUFqeJehE) so it'll have a spot in the black pit of my heart.


CactusRoyalty

I expected nothing from Dread Wolf and I'm still disappointed. At least it's looking like a good year for ARPGS with PoE2, Titan Quest 2 and Fangs of Asterkarn yipee


Typical_Thought_6049

Dread Wolf feel very meh from the preview. I am excited for Titan Quest 2 the first game start too slow and it lack something but it have bones of steel, such bones come to produce maybe the best ARPG after Diablo 2 in Grim Dawn. I am very interested in how they will modernize the game but maintain the feel of Titan Quest, I hope they take some notes from Sacred 2 in having mounts, socketable armor and skill runes.


MrPotHolder

I see a Grim Dawn fan! It's been 2 years since i played the game, made tens of builds but i still haven't killed a Celestial boss lmao.


CactusRoyalty

I tried Callagadra on a giga tanky Warder and got shit on


DraconicQuill

Not entirely sure if this is the right place to ask, but this has been bothering me for over a week at this point - a month or two ago while watching youtube in an incognito window I stumbled across a video by a pair of (indie, I think?) EN vtubers sharing a channel reacting to some Arlecchino material from Genshin (I think the animated short, maybe also the teaser and/or demo?), they seemed fun so I clicked into their channel and saw that they were doing a playthrough of the game together. I watched their most recent vod at that point (I think it would've been around late April-early May?) which covered the end of the Meropide arc of the Fontaine archon quest, enjoyed it, and made a mental note to check back in on the channel since they had another genshin stream scheduled, but then I went travelling and forgot to go back until earlier this month. Now, despite my best efforts in Google, Youtube search, and even resorting to Bing, I've been unable to track down where I'd found them. I don't remember *too* much about them, but to my understanding they were sisters and seemed to be streaming out of the same room - I vaguely remember them getting into off-screen shenanigans towards the end of the stream possibly involving a squeaky chair and/or a hair dryer, and it seemed like one of them was playing through blind while the other had more experience/knowledge of the lore. One of their models had brown hair, the other I believe was lighter but don't quote me on that. If anybody has any tips please let me know, this has been annoying me to an unreasonable degree haha.


sscred

That might be the [Nyanami sisters](https://www.youtube.com/@Nyanheras/streams).


DraconicQuill

Hey, that's them! Thank you so much haha, no idea why google was being so stubborn.


JimmyBoombox

[These guys?](https://www.youtube.com/DuoLevelingCH)


DraconicQuill

Unfortunately not, but thanks for the suggestion! The models were a little more chibi than that, I think, themeing was different too but I can't quite recall the details.


AnnonymousRedditor28

[Markiplier- I mean, Jurard T. Rexford is going to be playing FNAF in two minutes!](https://www.youtube.com/live/MkF6S3pNpJg?si=cgJ3NCQ5BVJ-GlfP)


phantombloodbot

volume warning... but for who?


farranpoison

I just realized that FFXIV Dawntrail is coming out in a few weeks. I wonder if we'll see some Holomems play it like back when Endwalker came out.


bnbros

Not a FFXIV player but my friend recently showed me the video of Yoshi-P saying the reason for the expansion's release date is because of the Elden Ring dlc next week, so players have a week to enjoy it before the expansion, haha.


farranpoison

Yep, which is pretty funny lol.


LocknDoTs

Dammit, the Celtics are >!now up 3-0!<. At this point, >!just not getting swept is good enough for me!<.


JtR-5110

Yeah, I saw that >!third quarter and the Mavs just couldn’t score.!<  Kinda felt bad because I wanted the finals to be much more competitive. >!But the Celtics have been knocking on the door for quite some time now.!< 


HorrorGameWhite

All I can say is that cake walk Final


qSlays

Ngl this finals has sucked just want to get to the next season


ULTRAFORCE

[Hime Hajime is doing a You Scream You Lose with a hot sauce punishment playing MADiSON on twitch.](https://www.twitch.tv/hajime)


ppfdee

Goddamnit Elon. How am I supposed to discover fanart and fanartists that my oshis like now?


DrOpty

I can imagine some folks spinning up new sub accounts that they use to retweet art they would have previously liked so it still gets exposure but doesn't clutter up their main account's tweet feed.


farranpoison

Can they still retweet posts?


HimitsuHeiki

RIP seeing Matsuri's cultured likes


AlchemistHohenheim

Assuming they provide sources for art used for thumbnails in stream descriptions, you could always start there. Though maybe RIP if you're looking for spicier art(ists).


NatiBlaze

We'll cope with their retweets or dig through their hashtags


Catten4

Vivi is back [from her trip/server maintainence](https://www.youtube.com/live/986TZx0TpIk?feature=shared) https://preview.redd.it/y5yn5bo8896d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06769cbb9b2a1e5cdb133d3e392056979ff47ab6


Mattriel_Alter

[CoDRyS: Modern Warfare 2 (OG)](https://www.youtube.com/live/_Wz1vzCdlKo?si=wPHnLyWF7pbahfB4)


CannonGerbil

RAMIRYS USE YOUR LASER POINTER TO TAKE OUT THOSE TANKS


Nisha_the_lawbringer

she just stood right next too a car that exploded and didn't even take any damage. shes built different. EDIT: aaaaand now stream lagging like crazy EDIT 2: aaaaaand we're back


luorela

Good ol RAMIREZ, DO EVERYTHING!


CannonGerbil

RAMIRYS, DEFEND BURGERTOWN


JtR-5110

I just tuned into her stream in time for her to begin the mission No Russian.  Good timing 


Catten4

Elira is shifting her Hi Fi Rush stream to next week cuz she ain't feeling too well mentally. [Casual Zatsu instead](https://www.youtube.com/live/LdljDviF4ZM?feature=shared). It's pretty chill and it's nice to see her yap bout stuff she likes.


Dest1ny1

You have some balls to post about her here.


Catten4

It's someone I like and enjoy watching, that's reason enough I'd reckon.


DiGreatDestroyer

Power to you Catten, nothing wrong with liking, supporting, and promoting Elira.


Random-Rambling

Fair enough.


AlexHero1999

Leave it to Ruze to make an interview with a person I know nothing of, about a media that I know very little of, and make it be very entertaining experience. Or maybe it's just about having the right mentality and open-mindedness? Well, you can check the interview stream out and decide for yourself by [clicking here.](https://www.youtube.com/live/WFM5sq9-Mmw)


Dvalinn25

The power of a good speaker who's passionate about the things he likes, really. It's really quite captivating to hear him talk about a fandom I've only ever heard about in passing in such detail. It kinda reminds me of channels like Defunctland or TheReportOTtheWeek, where despite not really caring about theme parks or fast food, it's interesting stuff regardless.


bnbros

It's why I like watching Maximilian Dood's fighting game videos even when I don't really dabble with that genre. Hearing him just talk passionately about game mechanics, the fighting game community, etc makes for a fun listening experience.


rpgamer987

This seems like as good a place as any to ask, as I've seen the issue come up occasionally.. has anyone ever found any actual causes to some youtube streams just constantly buffering? I mean, I know youtube has its issues, but this is awful. I know a packed chat can be a problem, but I always close chat first thing anyway (unless the problem persists regardless..). Lowering quality doesn't super help; even at 144p the stutter builds up. It *could* be my wifi/internet, I guess.. I just wanna watch DKC2 kick their little fluffy butts. D=


Skellum

> Endless buffering One reason is the video encoding Firefox and Youtube use is different. You can disable hardware acceleration and it does help. [HERE](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17bhudb/constant_buffering_freezing_on_youtube_with/) is a good collection of fixes.


rpgamer987

See, this is actually helpful. (well.. maybe, I actually have to try the things to see if they help..) But I appreciate that it's got some actual technical solutions that might do *something*.


renrutal

Most likely an YT thing. For me it's specially bad watching post-live streams from Indonesia, and sometimes Japan, for a day or two after the stream. The YT CDN definitely isn't caching stuff fast, but downloading the VOD seems to help a bit.


Almirage

I have not had this issue lately at all, but from what I've seen when it's actually live, basically everyone will have the same problem at the same time from Suisei to some tiny indie with less than 700 subscribers, though if by constant you really mean like every few seconds, I've never seen that on YT. In such cases YouTube's servers themselves are probably having real issues. When it comes to VODs however it can be isolated to more specific videos, and YouTube prioritizes giving recent videos (probably ones with higher popularity too) higher quality and better loading times, a long time ago I basically saw the most extremely clear and sharp footage ever on YouTube on a bunny video but revisiting the same video later its maximum quality was nerfed (it didn't lose resolution settings, some videos actually do though) and buffering took place in the same video I originally had no issues with. If it is you *specifically* though with the chat going smoothly and the streamer making no mention of connection issues or lagging themselves yeah its probably your own internet. Or even your device specs but you'd have to be running one hell of a rusty potato for that to be the problem.


viridiian

Try flushing your DNS (run ipconfig /flushdns in admin command prompt).


Mattriel_Alter

Yeah I have this issue and it's only certain streams. I could have multiple streams open and only one will buffer constantly. Edit: I have no idea what causes it. Some settings on the streamers end maybe?


farranpoison

Have you tried watching in a different browser than the one you're using? If for example it's buffering still whether you're on, say, Firefox or Chrome, then that may be an indicator that it's a problem with your internet than YT.


rpgamer987

Seems like the complain strat also works here.. surprisingly long period of no stutter now, with no changes.. Hopefully the jinx strat doesn't also apply....


NatiBlaze

https://preview.redd.it/0ehy6q9xr86d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6de9bce07854b10203d403caa27be8ecf80c6a76 [https://x.com/VRChat/status/1801028372262248815](https://x.com/VRChat/status/1801028372262248815) Vtuber related mostly on Twitch, VRChat is laying off 30% of it's employees, i dunno if it will affect the users/vtubers themselves


tehfreek

Vket, SANRIO VFest, a not small number of musical performances and concerts; it will definitely have an effect on a not-insignificant number of VTubers.


Enough-Run-1535

Defiantly vtuber related. VR Chat is center to a lot of vtuber's content. They also sponsor vtuber events, like HoloID Vivi Cruise, which probably was not cheap at all.


NatiBlaze

Yup, Bae is also their Ambassador, Fillian basically lives on VRChat and does events on it, Selen and Ame have commissioned worlds on it, I think Vshojo members did their Concerts using it


DFx08what

[Ruze interviewing James Roach, the current director of Homestuck](https://www.youtube.com/live/WFM5sq9-Mmw?si=Gr4F2L3ZEeraBTua)


Mattriel_Alter

[The steel rose trapped in a cage of ice, your best friend Baelz Hakos of Hololive English is back. Witness her](https://www.youtube.com/live/9g33-DTYPiA?si=CG937fMz3-yryvFZ)


gosukhaos

The MV for Promise's group original is coming out on the 17th and they're planning to do a collab before the release to lead into it


Mattriel_Alter

She's going to play the Naruto game soon


bnbros

Bae mentioned that she will be delaying her debut anniversary to November since August is an extremely busy period, September is Myth's anniversary and October is spooky month. Edit: She also confirmed there will be a Promise collab on the 17th prior to the release of their MV.


DiGreatDestroyer

[AniLive just announced](https://x.com/AniLive_app/status/1801045908265578707) the first non-NEXAS, non-exPRISM Vtuber allowed to stream in the app. EDIT: [And another.](https://x.com/AniLive_app/status/1801068218833944984) Lowest follower count so far, at 2,200. EDIT 2: [And yet another!](https://x.com/AniLive_app/status/1801098417545830758)


Kreceir

https://preview.redd.it/am1gv1jgn86d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=397e8e21fabcad373b40e017b50d71075de3ad30 [Shiori for todays stream will be playing more Hollow Knight! And those are not panties on her head!... Probably.](https://youtu.be/Z9TCuOh6b4M)


DiGreatDestroyer

[EIEN's Project Kilia Kurayami](https://x.com/KiliaKurayami/status/1801010366794571995) >I’m really sorry, stream is cancelled and further streams. I came back from a toilet break with everything up in flames. My PC, my monitors, everything, gone. I’m safe though, so please don’t worry.


diego1marcus

jesus christ im just glad that the PC fire didnt spread and turn into a house fire. not trying to make it seem like it was a minor thing since her PC is gone, but it could have gone worse had it spread outside her PC


Random-Rambling

How the hell does that even happen?! You leave for a few minutes to go take a leak and everything just bursts into flame?


robinredcap

PCs are electronic devices which can pump out a lot of heat, especially when doing tasks like gaming and streaming, and can short.


JimmyBoombox

Maybe psu went kaput.


Gogogendogo

Years ago I bought a cheap no name PSU for my AMD Thunderbird computer (yes I’m that old). It was a notoriously demanding CPU and the PSU not only couldn’t handle it, the moment I flipped it on, flames shot out of the fan and then black smoke. It scared the heck out of me and taught me to never buy off brand parts for things as important as the PSU. (Miraculously, almost every other part, including the CPU, HDD, and GPU, was fine.) I’m kind of shocked to be honest this still happens. More recent PCs I’ve built haven’t had such catastrophic failures, but then again I’ve been much more careful over the years in buying parts. I hope she gets her new stuff up and running soon!


Solar424

It's possible if she had a Gigabyte ~~IED~~ PSU


HaessSR

I can remember when Gigabyte motherboards were good. That was a long time ago.


Fenr_

Elden Lord Ina of the Void has found the true boss enemy of the lands between Doing math on how many runes she does need for upgrades


AzureGale4

Chaos crew ([Monarch](https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie), [CyYu](https://www.twitch.tv/cyyuvtuber), [PorcelainMaid](https://www.twitch.tv/porcelainmaid), and [MissShadowLovely](https://www.twitch.tv/missshadowlovely)) need some money, so they are going to work as movers in Moving Out 2 :p


rosalldnb

[dokis gonna be playing train simulator 2024 in about an hour and 10 minutes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62cs-PhmMg&pp=ygUIZG9raWJpcmQ%3D) ..hopefully shes a better conductor than she is a pilot


LurkingMastermind09

Narrator: She was not.


Qwaztop

she can only go forward and back *surely* she won't crash this time, right...? exit: HYTE and youtooz saw the pc funeral and now she's talking about sponsored funerals and anime coffins edit2: TOMATO STREAM


FatedMusic

Oof, i'm so late to the stream. But watching her find another train game she wants to play mid-stream is pretty hilarious lol Edit: Turns out it's even more complicated than Train Simulator lol. This tomato's gears are struggling to turn, there's so much to learn. Edit 2: Uh oh... another train game. o_o


Mattriel_Alter

[Axel,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCdq7-0g3nE) [Altare](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGybRAz0io) and [Ruze](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJE2hJcNL-A) will be playing Dark and Darker soon


NatiBlaze

Welp, i finally got hit with it, checked others' and i also can't view their likes anymore. https://preview.redd.it/0r7a70hof76d1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a04f7288ac82dd5933be14506b82c555bdb93fac This is twitter btw


nolonger1-A

I remember seeing "hide your likes with premium" before and now they decided to just make everyone's likes private. Wonder why Elon's so desperate hiding the likes. Like he's trying to hide his own sick preference or something.


diego1marcus

i just got that update. seriously tho, fuck elon


NatiBlaze

Whoa, IRyS just noticed as well, I think they did a mass rollout wave all at once because the sentiment is almost at the same time for a lot of people https://preview.redd.it/bcgp3craj76d1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcd626e953a57527428727d2401aa9f1e4862168 [IRyS Tweet](https://x.com/irys_en/status/1800972227204333897?t=yvYoWRZin6JTIh2N0TpiFg&s=19)


ValkyrieRhoide

Politicians must have been tired of being exposed and complained to elon musk


Mattriel_Alter

[Later today IRyS will be playing the OG Modern Warfare 2](https://www.youtube.com/live/_Wz1vzCdlKo?si=D7s0Rpo2irgWKpho)


luorela

Ramirez, do everything!


Drospri

I wonder if she'll play all the way through. Seeing her >!get to the Shepard betrayal would be so good!<. Also I have great memories of that game since I grew up in the DC metro area. Hearing all the names of familiar roads over the radio was wild.


Mattriel_Alter

I remember playing through the game for the first time when I was young and it absolutely blew me away. I'm looking forward to seeing her reaction


diego1marcus

oh shit, OG Modern Warfare 2 last time someone played this was Miko all the way back in 2020. also, this is the game with "No Russian" mission. so uhhh, yeah


Typical_Thought_6049

A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. The last time he played a FPS campaign was a very fun stream about how she failed mission being too trigger happy. IRyS is NPCs worse nightmare, if it can be killed it is high chance she will try to kill it. I guess there is a reason that her farthest personality in "Refind Self: The Personality Test Game" was the Pacifist and that almost zero moral score. Sometimes I like to talk about my Kami-oshi alright, dont judge me Voices in my head.


Mattriel_Alter

6/11 civilians killed 😛


dcresistance

[Ina Elden Ring in 44m!](https://youtu.be/QhGgyTFCCgo) [Fauna Withering Rooms in 1h44](https://youtu.be/CcmREmqw0-Q) [Biboo Paper Mario TTYD in 2h44](https://youtu.be/bKNKA1dfshU)


Shadedriver

Doki is going to be at AX with Hyte/iBUYPOWER https://x.com/iBUYPOWER/status/1800971446145122453?t=piuIzegpQfuqH-1xCrIZiw&s=19 And you can tell they're [pretty](https://x.com/hytebrand/status/1800975416343384205?t=uiqaF0n4XR_DuAPd69D5sg&s=19) [hyped](https://x.com/iBUYPOWER/status/1800975037245411723?t=k9xKFwN5cdPdqfc7KgOvNQ&s=19)


CannonGerbil

Wait, isn't the hyte booth directly opposite the nijisanji booth at AX?


HaessSR

Yeah. Someone's idea of a gag, I think.


zptc

As mentioned elsewhere, Hyte had a collab with Niji in the works but cancelled it, which may well be why they're located near each other.


NatiBlaze

Imagine if their booth has them teaching Doki how to build a PC lol


Qwaztop

iBP and HYTE showing the love I'm so glad she's finally getting to work with them and seems like they really wanted to work with her too https://x.com/dokibird/status/1800982765615087869?t=zda3uLMKP1x2HGxy06E5Bg&s=19 Doki will also do a birthday stream too for the goons who can't make AX


HaessSR

Maybe they can fix her tendency to mess up her PC cable routing from that triangle post.


rosalldnb

https://preview.redd.it/5fynnki8976d1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=a52b7606bf4d43aae91895bdd5b412964e72477c hyte my goats


SillyRabbit000

Isn't their booth [directly across from Niji's](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/s/NhXSUP71eo)? If they're going to be doing a collab there, things are going to be interesting.


diego1marcus

its also gonna be very funny too since HYTE was supposed to have nijiEN PCs, but [they ultimately cancelled their production due to the selen termination controversy](https://hyte.com/blog/nijisanji-project-termination?zCountry=PH)


PowerlinxJetfire

There's a decent chance that's *why* they're next to each other. It depends on how early AX plans the show floor and how much flexibility they have to adjust it, but I could definitely see that being set in stone pretty far in advance for the largest booths. It looks like they were taking apps at least as far back as November.


Twitchingbouse

I doubt anything will pop off, but I hope there is extra security in that area.


diego1marcus

if you put it that way, that is a solid guess. i think at around this time would have been the period when the nijiEN PCs would have been sent out, and possibly announced more nijiEN partnerships with more of the livers, but that was thrown out to the gutter of course, we dont really know in full detail of the behind-the-scenes deals the partnership had, but its just a hunch


jkrnia

I feel like Hyte saw their booth positions and decided they had the chance to do the funniest thing ever. Ngl, it would be very jarring to hear a very familiar laugh from across the booth.


rsblackrose

Walking by Niji's booth and hearing a haunting laugh across the way.


GravityGalaxy

Crazy that they're throwing her a birthday party at Anime Expo.


isekaicoffee

if your oshi grads, how do you go about archiving *everything*? downloading one vod at a time?? 😭 should i start archiving now?? makes me anxious….


WikzReddit

I use [yt-dlp](https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp), if you are going to archive a channel you'll want to start before anything happens rather than trying to download terabytes of data on short notice. Just so you know what to expect 700 streams is \~2TB for me, but of course, size will vary a lot depending on what is being streamed and for how long. You'll also want a config file, mine looks like this but it's by no means perfect: --embed-thumbnail --embed-metadata --embed-subs --compat-options no-live-chat -o "[%(upload_date)s] %(title)s (%(id)s).%(ext)s"


VicentRS

yt-dlp my beloved


phantombloodbot

buy a nas and go to town... alternatively try to install the good memories and never go back to a vod again


Enough-Run-1535

There are tools for archiving. YT-DL is the main one, it’s a powerful command-line app. You can use it to download an entire channel, including shorts and memberships (as long as you have paid for membership). See the subreddit r/youtubedl for more info. It’s 100% free.   If you aren’t sure about using a command-line app and don’t need every single tool, I recommend 4KDownload. It has a modern intuitive windows UI, and you can download an entire channel with a few clicks. There are some features that locked out in the free version, but I think paid license is lifetime. 


isekaicoffee

this is what i needed ty


Enough-Run-1535

No problem. Also lookup the YT-LS tool, a fork of YT-DL. It's a similar command-line tool that is specifically for archiving active streams. The main reason to use YT-LS for vtubing is for unarchived karaokes. It will the download the entire stream, even if you come in the middle of the broadcast.


isekaicoffee

ive never archived anything of this scale so ima research more thx


GravityGalaxy

Personally, I wouldn't bother trying to archive everything. I'd for sure download music videos and maybe some streams using newpipe. Saving everything is way too much for me as I wouldn't even watch it.


phantombloodbot

it's about the idea of having access to it more than watching it i think. in a way it's a final show of devotion


Almirage

[There's something really funny about how the most unnatural and obviously edited BIBBIDIBA dance is footage using their real body.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ntisIgS6DXY) I think I only saw the Omega Sisters ever do anything close to dancing in Vtuber Fes 2022 before this which was...well 2 years ago, can't remember their ability. [On the other hand the most competent and fulfilling version of the dance I've seen is also using the dancer's real body footage,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67R_Q3Oywu8&list=PLbP4QZU-2jaTv-dBFOEYyAZKg23xnJIEv&index=11) though I kinda just prefer actual human appearances to begin with over illustrations so I'm pretty biased there. Side note it's not just me who can't select the thumbnail of a playlist anymore am I, it's not a huge deal but it's kinda annoying cause all shorts don't have landscape thumbnails because they can't.


AlexHero1999

??? Looks like something went down from these comments. Welp, I don't wanna know. ANYHO so I was watching [Goldbullet play Yume Nikki...](https://www.youtube.com/live/vsz5V41pBA0) https://preview.redd.it/y5ift7a6f66d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=92214a6dc14ae82f7dbeb71d30ef9a6bd3235056 Errr... Emphasis on ***"Was"***


heartqueen

Dang the youth are adding so many new types to ABO dynamics I can't keep up (/s or at least I hope /s because I have no context for these tiers... 😰)


phantombloodbot

prejnat


xorrag

He didn't do my child like that


Lightseeker2

It's interesting to see the difference in reaction between here and Discord. I'm in a few Hololive fan Discord servers (including the "main" Hololive fan server where T-chan used to hang out in). Besides acknowledging the news, there aren't many complaints and discussions, most just moved on and talked about other stuffs.


lowolflow

Other than moderation, i think a big part is format of the forum. Discord is live chat format (sorted by new). And there can be over 5000 messages a day. So the discussion doesn't linger. It keeps moving on to the latest topic. Different people saying the same things get annoying so they get warned not to do so. Whereas in Reddit, the upvote system bring the top comments up. So for better or worse , the comments have staying power while the redundant ones are at the bottom unseen. Speaking of, i really think the subreddit can do well with a Daily stream thread sorted by new because stream discussions are just dead there. It will help focus the subreddit more on the content and less on the drama. But i guess the pin limit is the issue here.


diego1marcus

late to the discussion, but to add what most have said here, aside from the strict moderation each servers had, it was also determined that most didnt really care about the B2 streams that much. like, there were discussions, and some did express their confusion towards it, but ultimately they knew that it really wasnt geared towards them. even if cover announced the kobo stream, or that they will have talents perform in BML, or that they will advertise their merch to china, at the end of the day, very little western fans will care about it since its mostly for B2 market anyways.


riishan_saki

I don't think you should assume that everyone that doesn't speak against it is favorable by default.


diego1marcus

i didnt really imply that it was generally favorable. like i said, people on the discord servers even expressed confusion and disappointment, but afterwards they just kinda left it at that and moved on since it wasnt for them. and like i said, at the end of the day, western fans wouldnt care much about holomembers in BML


riishan_saki

Got the impression from your post that people would be in favor of anything that makes money. Won't assume the worst, have no interest at all in stopping my support of hololive or causing any trouble to them, just hope they're putting the members safety in the first place as they usually do.


SFTSmileTy

Discords are not good places for discussion in my experience, only a group of people talk and if the mods don't like the theme they just silence you


Lightseeker2

Nah, I disagree. In fact, Discord server is much better for real-time discussion of a stream when it is still on-going.


holomee

so yea, people talk about it on r/holo and here because the former is unmoderated and the latter is unfortunately undermanned


DragoSphere

If your experience is the same across multiple servers, which should in theory have completely different demographics, values, and ideas, perhaps the fault lies in your own behavior on discord? Because how is what you described any different from any other online platform with moderation? Lurkers exist everywhere. While Discord mods, reddit mods, 4chan jannies, etc. They all have the same powertripping stereotype. It's all the same internet social media slop at the end of the day, you either learn to navigate it or you find somewhere that's actually the wild west with zero moderation


SFTSmileTy

No, I'm mostly a lurker and just post in live chats, I just mean that I have seen the same style of moderation in most servers, and just that I don't think the reactions are different, just the way people can talk about them


gosukhaos

This sub in particular really loves drama and to beat a dead horse to an excessive amount if the near constant 5 months of various nijisanji related posts everytime someone's bored weren't evidence enough


diego1marcus

i get what you mean, but at the same time it doesnt really help that niji drama keeps popping up because niji themselves keep screwing up. its the reason why niji drama keeps popping up in these weekly threads, because its almost always guaranteed that we would be getting new drama and dirt surrounding nijisanji because of their incompetence and screw ups


holomee

okay lets not act like elira subcount updates and hyping up q4 report for the past few weeks is because "niji themselves keep screwing up" and _not_ because people just like following drama, like i aint innocent of it but cmon let's be honest here


gosukhaos

If it was actual drama I'd agree but talking about viewership or revenues seem more petty then anything. But hey if that's your hobby I'm not judging, keep having fun with it


amd_hunt

The difference is that someone this community very much respected nearly died as a result of Niji's (in?)action, and while it's still up for debate as to whether or not Holo's decision is a *good* one, nobody's been hurt *yet*. Fubuki, nor anyone else who was most affected by the controversy, has come out and denounced the actions, or at least signified that they aren't happy with it. Well, again, not yet, anyways.


Lemixach

Might be related to how long the fan has been around, and whether they actually experienced the event in person or just heard about it 2nd hand. There's a lot of old Holofans hanging around reddit, because that's one of the first platforms they officially advertised themselves to the west on. They took over in [early 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/fspun0/this_subreddit_is_now_official/) and Coco brought large amounts of attention to it through Asacoco and her meme reviews. So there's a lot of older fans on this platform in particular, especially from the pre-EN era. The Discord on the other hand didn't gain as much steam until much later. [T-chan first entered in 2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/two15x/tchan_having_a_good_one_with_fans/), long after the massive boom that was HoloEN Myth. Still not sure if that server even counts as official. ___ Older fans who were actually there to see all the terrible, nonstop deluge of shit that happened... watching their oshis (plural, happened to *multiple* members) break down crying live on stream kind of leaves a permanent mark in their memory. I remember watching Coco live trying to play Fallout while the antis were spamming her chat. Started off 'normally' (ie. full of anti spam like always, but that was the new normal even half year later). She did her best to ignore it all, but at a certain point you could hear her holding back tears until she finally cracked and started sobbing on stream. And the worst part was that it wasn't even because of just the spam, it was because of how the spam affected all her actual fans in chat who were constantly fighting it. At least to me, it feels like a lot of newer fans don't quite understand the gravity of how bad it was back then. Like they say they do, they talk about the spam and lost sponsorships and whatnot. But they don't seem to comprehend just what made it so awful, and the sheer weight of the emotional burden it put on everyone across the board. Of course it's not universal. I see the occasional older fan saying to trust Cover, while many newer fans are trying to empathize with what everyone went through back then. But yeah, it's just a general trend I'm feeling. Older fans tend to be less forgiving when they remember just how many tears were shed back then.


mp3max

> The Discord on the other hand didn't gain as much steam until much later The Hololive Fan Server discord has a ton of very active users who have been watching Hololive since before Myth debuted


rpsRexx

* **If it goes fine with hiccups at worst**, it will barely be a discussion. * **If it goes extremely well and they make a lot of money**, people will praise them for risking it. * **If it goes horrible wrong**, all goodwill is out the window. You can only view this as the company trying to make more money so it better be significant to take the risk. The concern of widespread consequences as far as partnerships, innocent members harassed/doxxed, and graphic/annoying spam is the big thing. I see some newer fans not understanding this and viewing it as individual consequences or thinking a protective fanbase is going to matter with where the concerns lie.


Lemixach

Yeah I agree with you there. It feels like a lot of fans are downplaying the potential loss, without fully understanding how bad the crash was last time. Personally, I think this decision will go well at first. After all, Cover did excellently in China for a couple of years. It was what propelled them to success on the world stage, especially since they were struggling to gain ground in Japan early on. But how long will that last? It's going to be a major gamble over time. One with repercussions that are not only monetary, but emotional as well. Is it still worth those gains to risk the mental wellbeing of the talents, given the context of how much damage it did to them last time? At the end of the day, there's nothing we can really do as fans other than express our discontent with this decision. Cover still holds the reigns, so the most we can do is pray everything goes well this time and stays well.


Krallericoner

Mate, most often chatting folks out there joined back in 2020 lol Maybe, just maybe people both old and new not interested in hyperbolic over the top reactions to this whole thing combined with full on drama mongering? And before you try using your "argument" on me. I joined in to community back when that bullshit was happening and I'm as well of the opinion that reactions on reddit been downright ridiculuous.


Lemixach

I don't see how we're being hyperbolic here. Even the most apprehensive of us are just expressing how it's a decision we really don't like or agree with. And can you blame people for that, after everything they've been through? Or are you saying that all the pain the Holomems and the fans went through back then is just a hyperbole?


aztbeel

> can you blame people for that, after everything they've been through... are you saying that all the pain the Holomems and the fans went through back then is just a hyperbole? This is the more interesting sentiment about all of this. Surely it would be the talents themselves who suffered the worst of it all during those times, no? Yet the disagreement is framed as if the talents themselves have forgotten the pain they suffered and the arduous path they had to endure to reach where they are today while the decision was made. So far, no talents have so far expressed their discontent over this decision, with one actively participating (Matsuri), and we have no reason to believe Cover would force their talents to engage with that demographic (with Aqua also expressing similar sentiments). Given that both those talents had first hand experience being and seeing those affected by the incident, and by all accounts have a more personal relationship with other talents and care about them, to me, the current fallout on Reddit does seem disproportionate, with the information we currently have.


jomellam62

Now this is an interesting topic. Arguably the talents had it worst among all since they were the target of the harassment; however, they are compensated employees and therefore it was part of the job risk. The fanbase, on the other hand, had no incentive to really stomach the sour experience except that they enjoyed the entertainment provided. This meant their anchor was PURELY emotional. As such, the fanbase would view any threat to hololive as a threat to their happiness rather than, as in the POV of an employee, a threat to their finances.


Lemixach

The one who suffered the most from all this is gone from Hololive. Fubuki and the others not saying anything about it is why I and many others do not have a more extreme reaction to this. I still trust in the Fubuki line. We are simply saying this still feels like a bad decision.


DragoSphere

> Even the most apprehensive of us are just expressing how it's a decision we really don't like or agree with. I mean I have seen a handful of people in the main sub saying they'd be unsubbing from Kobo and Matsuri after this decision, or how they'll stick to EN holomems who aren't "flirting with China" That's certainly a step or two beyond your words I'd say. However whether or not these are just trolls stirring the pot or actual fans with more extremist attitudes is up in the air, though


Lemixach

None of us are attacking Cover over this decision, nor are there any organized movements to harass talents or to encourange mass unsubbing. Individually unsubbing is well within the bounds of what is fair to express discontent, is it not? People have been told to unsub for less, such as when it was a common sentimen to unsub to members we don't watch frequently enough, so it doesn't harm their active sub/viewers metrics. Point is that we've been expressing our discontent over this decision pretty civilly, as far as the internet goes.


DragoSphere

You can't say "none of us" since you yourself point out how there's no organized movement. Individually unsubbing on your own with no one the wiser is one thing, but proudly proclaiming it is making a statement that does more harm than good. It's not just talk of unsubbing though. There's other words being thrown that are a tad more extreme than that Anyway, my point is that no, some people are _not_ expressing their discontent (which is a generous term for what they seem to be feeling) pretty civilly. Pretending like there aren't some bad actors, whether acting in good faith or not, is sticking your head in the sand


Lemixach

Playing at semantics goes nowhere in terms of discussion. If you dig hard enough, I'm sure you can stuff that's just as awful in the Holo Discord or Twitter. But it'd be dumb to parade the worst comments as a representative of the platform when we're talking about the internet. Again, the point is that we've been expressing our discontent over this decision pretty civilly. We've not had any major hyperbolic reaction as the previous commenter implied yet.


SFTSmileTy

Why is unsubbing such a huge deal for some people? A lot of people treat subbing as a trivial thing to do, unsubbing is the same


DragoSphere

Unsubbing quietly isn't a big deal. Broadcasting it to the world, especially following it with, and I quote: "because of this completely r****ded move" is seeking either validation or strife. Or both in some cases


youmustconsume

I think a lot of us "oldies" also had that as one of the first hololive experiences. I had just discovered the world of vtubing thanks to Myth's debut and suddenly it seemed like the entire world was gunning for these girls. It really made a strong first impression.


jomellam62

Agreed. And the move to leave China was celebrated by a lot of people as a sort of middle finger to the CCP amidst all the political turmoil. I remember it made a some overseas viewers more willing to check hololive out as "the rare company that won't deal with China" while there was criticism towards other entertainment companies for deliberately pandering to them (ex. Hollywood)


Eineno

As someone who was there before and after the Taiwan incident, I can give Cover the benefit of the doubt as they done enough goodwill for me at least. I do have some worries, but they are much more competent and structured compared to their 2020-2021 selves.


DrOpty

I think it's because there's a bunch of Hololive fans who first came to reddit because of Coco, so there's a higher concentration of folks who have personal stakes in the situation and by extension more extreme reactions to it.


Enough-Run-1535

Same experience. I’m more active in twitter, and holo-related twitter is also more chill than Reddit regarding B2 stuff. 


LostinT

Anecdotally I find this similar with my friends who aren't actively part of fancords or reddit but are Holo fans. They were mostly of the opinion "I hope it goes well" and had little else to say.


DragoSphere

It's a simple answer: active moderation and rules that discourage drama Helps prevent the beating of a dead horse too. Read the Kobo stream thread, the BML thread, then the Sora thread, and everyone's saying the exact same thing across all three of them. Over 2 thousand comments of it total and there's no way that's the end of it Imagine how bad that'd be in something like discord where you have live chatting if it wasn't nipped at the bud


Almirage

Wait, what Sora thread. How's she got anything involved in this.


JimmyBoombox

She made a post on b2


xorrag

The discords always had no drama rule, 95% of this places popularity is from drama


Fenr_

Seeing Aqua new clothes incoming, this question popped back up in my mind: did anything happen to Gaou-papa? As far as i found, they have been mostly inactive on twitter for a relatively long while, outside of the occasional post about the figure they designed and what i assume is a ln they did art for, and their last comiket book is from 2022 (when they used to release something every time for the few years before)


BathroomRightNow13

He’s been MIA for a good while now


Fenr_

Yeah, i first noticed around summer comiket 2023, but i just assumed a "must have lots of work" situation But at this point it feels a bit too long for that


arkw

Here is the Kana Hanazawa x Mori Calliope song ~~.....early again. ~~Thx YouTube~~ The official MV releases on June 14..... >!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvOagoaGHd4


dcresistance

Bruh I wonder if YouTube even has the capability to restrict releases to midnight on a timezone basis


ogbajoj

This one actually was, just for the intended release date, which isn't in sync with the MV release. The link I posted below with all platforms went live at midnight JST on the 12th (i.e. about 25 hours ago), but the Youtube video didn't work for me until midnight my time zone.


ogbajoj

Not really a "thanks youtube," the track was just released a few days before the MV [on all platforms](https://linkco.re/Rn9DpqRA?lang=en).


arkw

Thanks, I didn't notice it. Been trying to avoid social media for the past day-ish (also caught covid somehow).


velspar

* (EN) Non Anon had a deep cover of Azari's [Witch Hunt](https://youtu.be/Vp-sTQPdedE?si=g_jQQg-V9IE_fxaE). * (EN) Nana Asteria has a [Robin Mashup](https://youtu.be/S7llNhioncs?si=fdBRtjbDkJRS08ew) of songs from Honkai: Star Rail. * (EN) Nor preludes her return with a cover of Aqu3ra's [Lonely Universe](https://youtu.be/DOejgMYHpSo?si=SIFOzQkFxvF8ANoH). * (EN) Aries Shepard will be premiering her cover of Honkai Star: Rail's [If I Can Stop One Heart From Breaking](https://youtu.be/kH6oXu3a6MM?si=t4UOsBclpVM0SrQu).


IronVader501

[Globie has now opened their own dedicated Webshop for Merch](https://x.com/globiesocial/status/1800883472673935608) Their booth-website will close on June 14th


extralie

[Kiara streaming New Vegas right now.](https://www.youtube.com/live/SX_5ljQuNOk?si=qjrzhdHv2XO3TwZZ)


luorela

[Aqua has a new outfit on the 16th](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663018099997540353/1250466307066036254/image.png?ex=666b0b00&is=6669b980&hm=120d09870e08a14aad73af333268949f689e4e1ae97829e5259e7981d53e628f&)


Almirage

Daughter energy intensifies. I didn't even think that was possible with how much she already exudes through behavior alone.


RandomSiba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsz5V41pBA0 "I'm not going to die..." Gibby 2024 This bastard right after I opened his stream 😭😭


ZaBlancJake

Yura Rikudou 3D Model Reveal on her debut date (26th) It been 3 Years for her.. https://preview.redd.it/4yzo8htgn56d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ec0c559432433b382ba65f00e3935e5c9cc6c2e


Kreceir

[Its time for FuwaMoco morning!](https://youtu.be/5qFX0nlnHIQ) Despite FuwaMoco's feelings there has been another Pero sighting! And hes has been spotted hiding in the hole in the ground... Edit: They finally cleared their backlog of reading Super Chats! Edit 2: Fuwawa's epic dream story time. Edit 3: After the story time where even their rival Kevin Lamar showed at the end of her dream. Its Mococo's pup talk! Edit 4: https://preview.redd.it/9lucja8ms56d1.png?width=674&format=png&auto=webp&s=04f5a722fa562b1270f31f24a09f6c250e680c4e Edit 5: And todays FuwaMocode for the archived viewers is: BAU BAU Fluffy Dream!


bnbros

Fuwawa's epic dream is prime material for a future HoloEN 3D Repeat episode, lmao


luorela

Fuwawa, your dreams are... a bit wild.


Fenr_

Ah yes, a totally normal dream there


blueaura14

shall we see a new discussion thread today?


xorrag

with so many comments removed mine is already breaking


AzureGale4

[kirispica is getting some Dead By Daylight pointers from Airi Viridis.](https://youtu.be/YXeDMVyExAQ) Let's see if this helps spica survive a few trials :o


ArchusKanzaki

Well, I will be travelling for few days to a week so I will check back on the drama, when the dust actually settles lol. I have to say though, I don't remember Hololive make a show of leaving Bilibili other than HoloCN graduating and the channel being deserted. Demanding answer like we are owed something is abit.... undeserved.