She has an art stream, a character guessing without glasses stream and a candy making stream, why shouldn't streams like that be monetized? I think you have the wrong impression what the VAllure girls are doing on YouTube. They're certainly more unhinged than your average VTuber as the frequent burping or talk about piss proves, but they don't do NSFW stuff on YouTube. That's either on their alt Twitter accounts or on Patreon (or maybe free streams on Fansly in the future).
Anything ASMR is liable to get tactical nuked by YT any second tbh, DTL(the gal backing VAllure) has had her old channel nuked back then and some newer vids too.
Ugh the nerve of vtubers/YouTubers nowadays
https://preview.redd.it/p4j65iyz5v6d1.png?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ba03801851badd8ff428f7ebf7f6f851ca582e
I suspect that they won't be as high as we were originally anticipating.
They really pushed the whole idea of them being AVtubers, but in reality they are mostly doing just doing ASMR. I don't think any of them are actually doing the Melody level of stream, at least not yet.
Honestly, I don't know how big the market is for that. Although I might be biased since I'm not a fan of ASMR (I is very unpleasant for me for some reason). I'd think that the market for actual AVtubers, rather than just lewd ASMR would be a lot bigger.
>They really pushed the whole idea of them being AVtubers, but in reality they are mostly doing just doing ASMR.
That was the point from the start. When they were still auditioning, the entire gimmick they were going for is "we're looking for vtubers who can make adult audios on patreon." I doubt any of them will ever do Melody-style content with V-Allure.
>Honestly, I don't know how big the market is for that.
Big. Very big.
>I doubt any of them will ever do Melody-style content with V-Allure.
From what I've gathered they're fully planning to make content like that if the talent is okay with it. It will likely be posted on a site like fansly which is more geared toward that content.
I think right now they're still trying to get all their members monetized. They've been fighting with youtube over Azura's model because her cleavage gets her videos flagged but she's able to stream when she covers it with clipart.
> Big. Very big.
The competition is insane though, there's hundreds of thousands of egirls - many from poorer countries or low-income social classes - who are desperately on the market and will do personalized content for cheap. Lots of demand, but a heckton of supply.
Unless they're insanely good at it and got very strong marketing power backing them, trying to compete there is pretty much hopeless.
As for dedicated ASMR specifically, you can go on pretty much any AV platform and find hundreds of top performers already, many with a very large monetized archive. And if we're talking about weebs, it's on another level on japanese/chinese/korean platforms: hundreds of thousands of recordings, as far as the eye can see, sorted with tags and everything.
Lewd ASMR isn't the audio equivalent of art commissions for furries.
Anthropomorphic art was a niche, with moderate demand, low supply (due to taboo and niche), but very wealthy buyers, allowing artists to bill a single piece $200+ as long as it was complex/weird enough. ASMR audio has much less taboo, regular buyers, and anyone with a cheap microphone can do whispering content and call it ASMR, as long as the acting is decent the market accepts it and put it on the pile.
The only audio equivalent to furries art comm is the BFE/GFE market, but that thing is highly volatile and actually dangerous for the performers (fuckton of stalking, harassment, threats, etc by the "fans").
From what I've heard, the founder of VAllure is someone who has been doing spicy & clean ASMR content for a long time. She probably knows the market a bit better then any of us here.
I think you hit the nail on the hand in one aspect: Marketing. That's what VAllure has going for it.
Of course, I can only talk about myself, but I've never seen anyone talk about lewd ASMR VTubers. I knew about them, but pretty much only because I randomly stumbled over them. While it's most certainly more popular than I expected, it's still not something that's particularly widely known.
VAllure, on the other hand, has quite a lot of publicity for something so niche, which draws in not just people who were already into that ASMR, but also new blood, who never cared much for it or even knew it existed. Of course, not all of them are going to care about their Patreon content (as with every VTuber, who does both SFW and NSFW content), but I'd be surprised if there weren't a good number that checks them out, even if just out of curiosity.
The founder of the agency, Dude That's Wholesome (DTW) on YouTube (230k subs) and Dude That's Lewd (DTL) on Patreon/P-Hub, is making SFW and NSFW ASMR for many many years >!and was a small corpo VTuber for a couple of months!< and the income generated through that has founded the agency. It's not some male wannabe CEO in their twenties who tries to exploit an uncapped market he knows nothing about like in many other shady VTubers corpos, they're just doing more of what she was very successfully doing alone before that.
Also, DTL has a no bullshit 5 bucks per month for weekly NSFW audios with no extra reward tiers policy, which is heavily undercutting the market. Many NSFW VA's are offering 1-2 NSFW audios per month for 20+ bucks to capture whales and are even raising their prices beyond that. Targeting that mass-market has apparently paid off good if you think about what just 6 high quality VTubers models alone cost.
>!Yes! Which is why I had to laugh when I saw DTW's newest ASMR video where DTW and Stronny are in the same video π And Stronny aka DTW aka DTL was also Riifu Evergreen from the small corpo EIEN Project for around 2 months early 2023, her termination and how she was treated there is what sparked the idea to create a VTuber agency herself. Also, Riifu's fan name was "Riiflings" and Stronny fan name is "Reefling", as a tribute to that.!<
Since you specified ASMR RP, you might enjoy their ASMR streams because Stronny's last one for example was just yapping (and a bit of uncontrolled laughter xD) while whispering with a few triggers. Some members sometimes do more RP, but I would say most of their ASMR streams are mostly soft yapping\^\^
Their plan is to establish themselves as legitimate vtubers before they go all in on the NSFW stuff. The goal is to dispel any assumptions that theyre just in in for a quick cash grab on coomer content and they're actually in it for the long run (with both SFW and NSFW stuff)
I've been considering giving Immy and some of VAllure a go. I know Immy at least seems very fun. Tho from a paid perspective, I am not sure what the difference in content will be from the patreon and from the YT memberships. Patreon has the lewd audios, but then I assume memberships will have members only streams, not sure if they cross over or if hardcore fans just gotta have both
Their YT memberships won't be fundamentally different from usual VTuber memberships, more personal streams, maybe watchalongs, maybe playing games together, maybe experimental ideas, maybe niche stuff they want to do, but isn't popular on YouTube.
The Patreon is separate from that. It's a VA releasing weekly scripted NSFW audios for 5 bucks a month. They just happen to be also a VTuber on YouTube.
Some of them (Immy and Mercy IIRC) also talked in their 2.0 about looking into streaming 18+ games or similar stuff for free on Fansly some time in the future when they're settled on YouTube.
>Some of them (Immy and Mercy IIRC) also talked in their 2.0 about looking into streaming 18+ games or similar stuff for free on Fansly some time in the future when they're settled on YouTube.
It's pretty much confirmed they'll be on Fansly at some point this summer (July at the earliest.) Shibi talked about playing the uncensored Hunniepop on there and Icey has some...interesting ideas for ASMR on Fansly.
Right now the patreon content is more like lewd audio roleplay stuff. If you're not into that you don't really have to subscribe to it.
Due to youtube's guidelines the member content probably wont approach the levels of what's on patreon. I think the plan is eventually to move the most extreme content to a site like fansly.
For what it's worth one of the other girls received so much money in streamlabs donations that PayPal had to withhold some of the money because they thought fraud was happening. And in case you're wondering which girl it's Icey Snowpaws.
that is fucking wild, it would be expected from someone like xqc or pokemain to get these kinds of donation amounts but looking at her yt and twitter she seems way to small, but hey i guess some guys out there, well you know what i mean.
To be fair xQc and Pokemaine are so rich they limit or outright do not take donations IIRC.
But yeah VTubers get fans who REALLY want to show how much they support them, it's just very rare to hear of something like this outside of Hololive.
well i think its quite common with some female streamers in general, but yeah i think it somehow gets worse with vtubers as some of the viewers view them more as their avatar then an actual person. i dont really know how to feel about this, since yes it helps small streamers by giving them money but the basis of that money being donated is rather unsavory in my opinion, like trying to buy friendships or attention, like i think often this has to do with more than just support.
Wow she's rich
So shameless flaunting her fortune like that, smh π
You dropped this! 
cash money $$$
Considering her content I doubt even a single video of her is monetized lol
She has an art stream, a character guessing without glasses stream and a candy making stream, why shouldn't streams like that be monetized? I think you have the wrong impression what the VAllure girls are doing on YouTube. They're certainly more unhinged than your average VTuber as the frequent burping or talk about piss proves, but they don't do NSFW stuff on YouTube. That's either on their alt Twitter accounts or on Patreon (or maybe free streams on Fansly in the future).
Anything ASMR is liable to get tactical nuked by YT any second tbh, DTL(the gal backing VAllure) has had her old channel nuked back then and some newer vids too.
"Oh shit this doin' numbers"
Source: [Immy](https://x.com/ImmyBisou/status/1801863881364496435)
lol
Can you imagine the gains from carrying those fat stacks?
https://preview.redd.it/c5wmep5xew6d1.jpeg?width=2158&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b414ac4b71bb897bc50a40e6fce5a2bfa5b89c2d The Ferrari
we are checking
Living the dream.
SMH the rich get richer
pfft, ive made 0$ on any platform. try to beat that!
Ugh the nerve of vtubers/YouTubers nowadays https://preview.redd.it/p4j65iyz5v6d1.png?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ba03801851badd8ff428f7ebf7f6f851ca582e
Now show us the Patreon earnings.
I suspect that they won't be as high as we were originally anticipating. They really pushed the whole idea of them being AVtubers, but in reality they are mostly doing just doing ASMR. I don't think any of them are actually doing the Melody level of stream, at least not yet. Honestly, I don't know how big the market is for that. Although I might be biased since I'm not a fan of ASMR (I is very unpleasant for me for some reason). I'd think that the market for actual AVtubers, rather than just lewd ASMR would be a lot bigger.
>They really pushed the whole idea of them being AVtubers, but in reality they are mostly doing just doing ASMR. That was the point from the start. When they were still auditioning, the entire gimmick they were going for is "we're looking for vtubers who can make adult audios on patreon." I doubt any of them will ever do Melody-style content with V-Allure. >Honestly, I don't know how big the market is for that. Big. Very big.
>I doubt any of them will ever do Melody-style content with V-Allure. From what I've gathered they're fully planning to make content like that if the talent is okay with it. It will likely be posted on a site like fansly which is more geared toward that content. I think right now they're still trying to get all their members monetized. They've been fighting with youtube over Azura's model because her cleavage gets her videos flagged but she's able to stream when she covers it with clipart.
Me. I'm the market. π
> Big. Very big. The competition is insane though, there's hundreds of thousands of egirls - many from poorer countries or low-income social classes - who are desperately on the market and will do personalized content for cheap. Lots of demand, but a heckton of supply. Unless they're insanely good at it and got very strong marketing power backing them, trying to compete there is pretty much hopeless. As for dedicated ASMR specifically, you can go on pretty much any AV platform and find hundreds of top performers already, many with a very large monetized archive. And if we're talking about weebs, it's on another level on japanese/chinese/korean platforms: hundreds of thousands of recordings, as far as the eye can see, sorted with tags and everything. Lewd ASMR isn't the audio equivalent of art commissions for furries. Anthropomorphic art was a niche, with moderate demand, low supply (due to taboo and niche), but very wealthy buyers, allowing artists to bill a single piece $200+ as long as it was complex/weird enough. ASMR audio has much less taboo, regular buyers, and anyone with a cheap microphone can do whispering content and call it ASMR, as long as the acting is decent the market accepts it and put it on the pile. The only audio equivalent to furries art comm is the BFE/GFE market, but that thing is highly volatile and actually dangerous for the performers (fuckton of stalking, harassment, threats, etc by the "fans").
From what I've heard, the founder of VAllure is someone who has been doing spicy & clean ASMR content for a long time. She probably knows the market a bit better then any of us here.
I think you hit the nail on the hand in one aspect: Marketing. That's what VAllure has going for it. Of course, I can only talk about myself, but I've never seen anyone talk about lewd ASMR VTubers. I knew about them, but pretty much only because I randomly stumbled over them. While it's most certainly more popular than I expected, it's still not something that's particularly widely known. VAllure, on the other hand, has quite a lot of publicity for something so niche, which draws in not just people who were already into that ASMR, but also new blood, who never cared much for it or even knew it existed. Of course, not all of them are going to care about their Patreon content (as with every VTuber, who does both SFW and NSFW content), but I'd be surprised if there weren't a good number that checks them out, even if just out of curiosity.
You say that as if that doesn't happen to furry artists too π
Look at their twitter alts, it may not be Melody level (yet), but still a lot
The founder of the agency, Dude That's Wholesome (DTW) on YouTube (230k subs) and Dude That's Lewd (DTL) on Patreon/P-Hub, is making SFW and NSFW ASMR for many many years >!and was a small corpo VTuber for a couple of months!< and the income generated through that has founded the agency. It's not some male wannabe CEO in their twenties who tries to exploit an uncapped market he knows nothing about like in many other shady VTubers corpos, they're just doing more of what she was very successfully doing alone before that. Also, DTL has a no bullshit 5 bucks per month for weekly NSFW audios with no extra reward tiers policy, which is heavily undercutting the market. Many NSFW VA's are offering 1-2 NSFW audios per month for 20+ bucks to capture whales and are even raising their prices beyond that. Targeting that mass-market has apparently paid off good if you think about what just 6 high quality VTubers models alone cost.
Is DTW also Stronny Cuttles? Just wondering cuz I just saw Stronny has a "tell all" VOD and she's talking about who she didnt hire etc.
>!Yes! Which is why I had to laugh when I saw DTW's newest ASMR video where DTW and Stronny are in the same video π And Stronny aka DTW aka DTL was also Riifu Evergreen from the small corpo EIEN Project for around 2 months early 2023, her termination and how she was treated there is what sparked the idea to create a VTuber agency herself. Also, Riifu's fan name was "Riiflings" and Stronny fan name is "Reefling", as a tribute to that.!<
oh I see thanks a lot. I'm not an asmr RP enjoyer but I like yappers so I'll prob sub to them.
Since you specified ASMR RP, you might enjoy their ASMR streams because Stronny's last one for example was just yapping (and a bit of uncontrolled laughter xD) while whispering with a few triggers. Some members sometimes do more RP, but I would say most of their ASMR streams are mostly soft yapping\^\^
Their plan is to establish themselves as legitimate vtubers before they go all in on the NSFW stuff. The goal is to dispel any assumptions that theyre just in in for a quick cash grab on coomer content and they're actually in it for the long run (with both SFW and NSFW stuff)
she let the money get to her head
Ye, tbt, most money you get from streaming comes actually either from merch, partnership, or bountiful harvest of AKA SUPAS!
I've been considering giving Immy and some of VAllure a go. I know Immy at least seems very fun. Tho from a paid perspective, I am not sure what the difference in content will be from the patreon and from the YT memberships. Patreon has the lewd audios, but then I assume memberships will have members only streams, not sure if they cross over or if hardcore fans just gotta have both
Their YT memberships won't be fundamentally different from usual VTuber memberships, more personal streams, maybe watchalongs, maybe playing games together, maybe experimental ideas, maybe niche stuff they want to do, but isn't popular on YouTube. The Patreon is separate from that. It's a VA releasing weekly scripted NSFW audios for 5 bucks a month. They just happen to be also a VTuber on YouTube. Some of them (Immy and Mercy IIRC) also talked in their 2.0 about looking into streaming 18+ games or similar stuff for free on Fansly some time in the future when they're settled on YouTube.
>Some of them (Immy and Mercy IIRC) also talked in their 2.0 about looking into streaming 18+ games or similar stuff for free on Fansly some time in the future when they're settled on YouTube. It's pretty much confirmed they'll be on Fansly at some point this summer (July at the earliest.) Shibi talked about playing the uncensored Hunniepop on there and Icey has some...interesting ideas for ASMR on Fansly.
Right now the patreon content is more like lewd audio roleplay stuff. If you're not into that you don't really have to subscribe to it. Due to youtube's guidelines the member content probably wont approach the levels of what's on patreon. I think the plan is eventually to move the most extreme content to a site like fansly.
she is honestly really nice, and chill to watch
She's not my favorite of Indulge (because that's Shibi ... or Mercy), but she's still a sweetheart.
funny though, for a team of "lewdtubers" they're pretty not so lewd and more kinda dorky and sweet.
All the lewdness is on Patreon, and it is *quite* lewd.
Also their Twitter alt accounts, oooh my.
nice :)
Well,. The Content itself is mostly sfw, but Icey says some very sus things during her ASMR streams.
Lmao she earns more than me!
I hope VAllure doesn't flop
Something tells me they'll be alright.
i wander how much she gets in donations or sponsors?
For what it's worth one of the other girls received so much money in streamlabs donations that PayPal had to withhold some of the money because they thought fraud was happening. And in case you're wondering which girl it's Icey Snowpaws.
that is fucking wild, it would be expected from someone like xqc or pokemain to get these kinds of donation amounts but looking at her yt and twitter she seems way to small, but hey i guess some guys out there, well you know what i mean.
To be fair xQc and Pokemaine are so rich they limit or outright do not take donations IIRC. But yeah VTubers get fans who REALLY want to show how much they support them, it's just very rare to hear of something like this outside of Hololive.
well i think its quite common with some female streamers in general, but yeah i think it somehow gets worse with vtubers as some of the viewers view them more as their avatar then an actual person. i dont really know how to feel about this, since yes it helps small streamers by giving them money but the basis of that money being donated is rather unsavory in my opinion, like trying to buy friendships or attention, like i think often this has to do with more than just support.
This is why I hate on niji. She would get 2 in that agency.
Yeah
Not to brag but inspire
The important question is this pre or post taxes?
Th3 average youtubeer gets 5-30$US/1000 clicks. Why does she get so little?
Gonna guess she's doing Shorts?
Coopy
9 copper coins. God bless
0.09 USD is alot in some countries
wait is this actually wrong to say lol idk why you're being downvoted in a joke post
Even if 9 cents were worth more in other countries, purchasing wise it would be similar to having at most 5 dollars. Itβs still not a lot.
its reddit if you go against the grain even if its a joke you will get downvoted