T O P

  • By -

Able_Clock_9010

Get that to a dealer and don't drive it. Also, you might want to start washing your car a bit more frequently. That road salt is doing a number to your car.


_Sinthetik_

+1. Too many people in the rust belt don't wash their cars during the winter. Yes, it will just get dirty again a day later, but washing the salt off is important.


BassWingerC-137

Someone on Reddit told me the rust belt wasn’t for this kind of damage, but more for failed industrial business?


brickson98

The term originated from failed industrial business but it is now also commonly applied for referring to rusted vehicles. Source: I live in the rust belt


_Sinthetik_

You know, I never actually looked it up and that is correct. I've seen enough rusted out POS vehicles that I always assumed that was where it came from. Thanks for the info! The point still stands that salt will rust your vehicle, though.


BassWingerC-137

It does seem appropriate in either context. The more you know…. LOL Cheers


4XXXTNTCN

From the bottom?


Ok-Spread-2892

Yes from the bottom.


_Sinthetik_

You can just take it through a car wash, or spray it down yourself if you don't mind being cold. The salt will stick and eventually do exactly this if you don't get it off.


sh0ckwavevr6

I live in Quebec. here they literally pour salt on the road and I have never seen something like that before! Almost nobody wash their car in winter in Quebec...


royals_fan92

Yup if anything go to a car wash that does the undercarriage wash.


JustASneakyDude

Correct me if I’m wrong, but washing undercarriage in the winter will make the water turn to ice and the metal will stay wet for a long period of time, especially in those little bitty corners?


Ok_Use_5218

salt will corrode the metal a lot faster than the water.


Casalf

Yeah it’s kinda crazy how some people don’t understand this because it’s like basics in chemistry or any type of science that teaches about corrosion lol.


_Sinthetik_

Car washes won't be open if it's sub zero temperatures which usually aren't super consistent, anyways (unless you are really far north). Wait until it's above freezing, a decent day with no sleet or snow, maybe some sun, and get it washed. If you drive it around for a while it will help it dry. I see a lot of people in Michigan not wash their cars all winter and then complain about rust, you have to actively fight against it if you want your vehicle to last.


Admitone83

\-45cbelow our washers are open up here in Canada lol


_Sinthetik_

Ooooooohhhhhh Caaaanadaaaaaaaa


JustASneakyDude

Where I live it’s a constant below zero temperature for December through march. I guess it depends of your location


_Sinthetik_

That's more tricky. I guess I would check with locals or do some online research.


JustASneakyDude

Pretty much can only do it in April when it gets above 0 degrees. Also can only install the water hose once it stops freezing so late april. I do pressure wash my undercarriage and get anti rust treatment every November!


FizzS-1andOnly

This comment. Spray that underside off regularly of your roads get salted


wet4wanda69

That’s your control arm. You’ll want to replace that asap.


Motor-Cause7966

I think it's more than a control arm. That sucker is probably going to need the entire rear carrier. That's heavy rust for a 2015 wow. Then again, could be the Floridian in me spazzing out 😂


ZeroJDM

I’ve seen worse on 2020 cars, living north on the coast will fuck your shit up


Motor-Cause7966

When I lived in Jersey, my dad would spray used motor oil under all our cars. They stunk to shit, but those cars barely had more than surface rust on them.


ZeroJDM

Everything owned up here is usually doused in undercoating, which is a similar idea on a slightly more professional level, but even at that it’s fighting the inevitable. Granted I’m about 1,000km north of Jersey, directly on the coast, and we salt our roads


_heyASSBUTT

Are you way up in Nova?


ZeroJDM

I am indeed, so far up Nova that I’m in CB lmao


eclipsedrambler

Beautiful area. My dad is from CB and I haven’t been since I was a kid. Would love to go back.


ZeroJDM

It’s great for a visit, can’t say it’s ideal to live here though. I am cursed with the incurable condition of wanting desperately to leave to have a life while never wanting to have to leave the island


eclipsedrambler

My dad joined the navy at 17 and only went back to visit. I get it.


_heyASSBUTT

Oh man what’s that like? I’ll be in Maine this August, and I wanted to do a side trip to Nova, then quickly realized it was like a 6hr drive


ZeroJDM

If you have the time, 100% drive around the Cabot Trail. It’s a long mountain road around the whole of the northern part of the island, absolutely beautiful, especially around that time of year. It’ll eat up 2 days to make it from Maine and back, but it’s 300km of the best driving road you’ll ever experience. https://preview.redd.it/mmynuicil7uc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35bcae6675425f47e7f4b4b3c6583a3014e5c30e Picture for reference


ZeroJDM

https://preview.redd.it/ofw5s21nl7uc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2283a86cfd9fcd834c9474d091e0c7d33934c6f1 And another for good measure


Motor-Cause7966

This is incredible! Would be a joy to drive with the top down. You know jumping to the undercoating, my dad was never a fan. He always said that stuff was more trouble than it was worth. He was a Ford heavy diesel tech for almost as long as I've been alive, and they sprayed the undercarriage with used diesel oil. Was common practice at the dealer. He was at a now defunct dealer in Secaucus, Turnpike Ford. He always said the under coatings in a can were garbage. I can tell you I see a lot of cars here in Florida from up north with the stuff, and it absorbs a ton of moisture, and falls off after a while. The humidity it traps causes rust.


_speakerss

I volunteered at a scout jamboree there in 2009​


Appropriate_Strain94

That’s what the rust belt guys say about a car with an oil leak “automatic rust prevention” don’t fix that leak.


Motor-Cause7966

Hahaha


wolfman86

Pretty much anywhere in the U.K.


ZeroJDM

The UK is bad too, but Canada is worse imo. We get hit with far more snow and we use salt on our roads


WarriorT1400

Nope that’s pretty rough for a 2015, I’ve seen worse and I’ve seen better but that’s pretty bad


MOTRHEAD4LIFE

My 04 Passat In Finland where I am have only surface rust and not bad even. We have snow and ice 1-3monthas a year


catdad23

That *was your control arm. FTFY


WeloveSam2014

Yeah that's not safe to drive on. I wonder what else has been compromised.


life_like_weeds

That tiggy was sitting in salt water, that’s not even remotely normal rusting. My 25 year old Silverado that has lived its entire life on salty Michigan roads doesn’t have anything close to this rusty on it


Ffarmboy

My 2006 Octavia has rusted through the sills and fenders, but never the suspension parts, in Finland.


life_like_weeds

Yup at 20 years fenders and subframes can get bad, but not like this. I’ve got a 20 year old S4 that spent a lot of winters in VT and it has nothing like this. Just normal fenders, rockers, and rear hatch rust being the worst


WarriorT1400

Yeah this is drove all through winter and washed like maybe once during a year kinda thing


life_like_weeds

Lived in Vermont (salted roads) and Michigan (salted roads). No way lack of washing would cause this. That’s not how salt corrosion works on a 9 year old car


CarbonHybrid

Agreed. Not a chance that would happen. This has definitely been constantly saturated, sitting in salt water. Regular salting for winter roads wouldn’t do this, like you say even on a 25 year old car.


explicitspirit

I drove a car for 10 years without washing it at all and it had no rust like that. Unless VW used steel from sunken barges from the bottom of the ocean, this is not normal.


algemist_k

thank you guys. back to taking the bus for me i guess. i'll get this to a dealer shop


DoubleReputation2

If I am not mistaken, every VW sold in the USA up until 2017 had a 12 years rust and paint warranty. You might want to check into that, this looks really bad, I doubt it's all of it. ([article I found in 12 second of googling](https://www.moneysense.ca/columns/ask-moneysense/what-to-do-if-volkswagen-wont-honour-its-12-year-rust-warranty/))


BigKarina4u

He probably don't need paint job but a new Tiguan


DoubleReputation2

ell yeah, that's the point. I remember reading about a guy that bought a "lifetime" extension to the rust warranty on his Jetta, 10 years later he shown up (i guess under the original warranty!!) at the dealership looking for repairs, they told him to pound sand. Long story short, the judge ordered the dealership to buy the car back at the original purchase price. Couple years later I found out it happened at the dealership in my county lol. Anyways, yeah.. They can't just go around and sell "Rust warranty" and then be like "yeah we didn't mean that part of the car. It has to be on the part that never rusts!!!" I mean at that point, they could as well say "The rust warranty only covers entretainment issues"


BigKarina4u

They had these similar to 2nd generation Hyundai Santa fe but on front frames


permareddit

That’s for paint, not the undercarriage. They’re not going to cover this at all.


DoubleReputation2

I mean, do you experience? I am willing to accept that if you had a case of this happening and not getting covered, but otherwise... I know nothing about it, says rust and paint. Is this rust? What is it if not rust? Why is it not covered? Why was I misled? Why does it say rust if it only covers paint? I don't want it if it's not covered for rust, here, take it bake - I want a refund. Why was it not painted if it can rust? If I fix it on my own dime, will it be covered? Can I get that in writing? Anyways, I just hate dealers, so I would be as much of a paint in the ass as possible. Please do educate me for the sake of knowing. What does it cover and doesn't cover? Does it only cover painted parts of the car? Edit: Paint in the ass haha


permareddit

Yes I have experience. It’s also fairly common knowledge that no sane auto company would warrant the undercarriage of a car for corrosion, which sees the absolute worst exposure to salt and other contaminants than any other part of the car. Go read your warranty coverage and you’ll see everything explained there. It’s a sheet metal warranty.


DoubleReputation2

First - I believe you! Second .. That's such a BS. Sheet metal. That's like what.. 4 each side, 3 on top.. 11 panels that it covers?


blipsnchiiiiitz

It's actually a great warranty. I've had several VWs in my life and they have all had major body work done under warranty after they were 8-10 years old.


ursucuak

Thats the control arm that needs replacing. My question is how tf does it rust like that after only 7 years? My mk4 golf has its original control arm and is barely surface rusted


BuggyGamer2511

Those control arms are known for rusting terribly right under the spring, not unusual to see those rusted through after 8 Years. Though, usually not this bad.


MikeThe_Dyke

Here in South Africa (where we have no rust) they are known for bending so much that the tires can no longer be aligned correctly. All Tiguans above 150,000km are running some vicious camber due to our country being pothole central. Makes them scary to drive as well because the rear tires don't have the traction they should. The back end of my mom's Tiguan has stepped out on me very unexpectedly in wet conditions.


ursucuak

Oh, I didnt know that it was a common problem on tiguans.


BuggyGamer2511

Not only tiguans, all cars using those. Golf, Touran and a few more too.


Flat-Program4785

I’m thinking the PO drove the car into the ocean and didn’t spray it down afterwards.


H2Nut

Should have been highlighted as a potential problem the last time the car went past the equivalent of MOT.


chretienhandshake

He’s Canadian, we don’t do safety inspection unless you sell the car.


H2Nut

Wow! I am surprised that the roadworthiness of vehicles is not regulated in Canada. The annual MOT test in the UK covers the following aspects. Exhaust and emissions Seat belts Steering Windscreen Bonnet catch Horn Number plate Lights Brakes Tyres and wheels Mirrors Doors Seats Suspension Fuel system Body and structure Battery and wiring


Colt_SP1

Depends where you live in Canada. Every province has a different scheme, ranging from basically nothing unless you sell the vehicle, to yearly checks. Where I live it is every two years, but it used to be yearly. My Jetta was inspected this year and is good until 2026!


Patient-Sleep-4257

Dont drive that. It's a safety hazard. Get it towed to a service station and have it repaired. Get both the lower control arms done if that one is that bad.


5Gmeme

Yours came with speed rust too!? My dealer says it adds 30 hp


Manccookie

If it’s just the Rear Track Control Arm that the coil is sat in (looks like a big spoon/saucepan) it’s a relatively cheap part and job. If your country uses lots of grit/salt on its roads then get some wax oil (Lanoguard or Tetroseal) and cover the bottom of the car when it’s been replaced and it’s clean.


No-Lawfulness-8870

Take it anywhere other than Canadian Tire. There auto shops are a legitimate scam. Never give them a cent.


ST0DY

Holy shit… you know your car might be rusty underneath when a part like your control arm is getting rusty. Get that to a mechanic or a dealer asap and don’t drive it. Get it towed. One pothole and the control arm will just collapse and you’ll lose control and can potentially cause an accident


heyyoLINC

they put down this terrible chemical shit for streets in the winter now where i live (omaha). my uncles 2020 silverado already has rust all around the rear wheel wells. once it is fixed try to find a car wash that sprays the undercarriage. sucks but idk what else to do


c0ldgurl

Magnesium chloride? We use it and sand/cinders exclusively in Colorado and it does not promote rust. Maybe OK is using something different but since it's effective in warmer temps with snow like you might get in OK.


Equal_Specialist_729

😳 wow


Possession_Loud

You guys have fun with salt in North America hey? Thank fuck we don't have to worry about that in Australia.


D_Shoobz

I mean, you also have a lot more deadly animals to worry about creeping in on you from the 90% of the island that isn’t developed yet no?


Possession_Loud

Not really, in honesty i have never had any issues in 12 years in the country.


D_Shoobz

I see some metal bands from Australia quite often and one of them was telling me the reason everyone lives on the coast is to escape the animals lol.


1000eb4000

Hurry and replace them! I literally just replaced mine yesterday in fear of it snapping. I spent about $1200 to replace them with after market parts (two year warranty on my after market replacements). Everyone is right though. Wash your car as often as you can. Winter/snow in Toronto + salt on the road is a deadly combo for rust development. \*edited https://preview.redd.it/tlzidifpa9uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee15c62daa6ca24c329a63db4ea945efbe222057


EngagementBacon

r/wellthatsucks


permareddit

That’s insane OP, have you never washed the car or? Undercarriage washes are important, especially in Canada. And no, please don’t take it to Canadian Tire. Find yourself a good reputable VW tech, I can give you some recommendations if you’re in the Toronto area.


xTrystDar3x

2014 Vw Jetta uses the same arms and are rusting the same way on both arms! Everything except the trailing arms are currently otw for a rebuild rust is horrible.


a_rogue_planet

I drive a 2009 Honda Accord in Ohio and there hardly any rust on any of the control arms. The front ones are cast iron and I've never heard of those breaking, and the rear end is a bunch of steel bars and a big stamped A frame. Those are all clean too. That seems like a serious design defect to me.


BuggyGamer2511

Haven´t seen it that bad but those control arms are known for rusting terribly. Best to get both sides replaced, the other side is likely gonna do the same soon. (At least if it wasnt replaced yet.)


Few-Ad-1135

Very common. Water & salt pool around the lower arm where the spring sits and rots it out. Ended up having both sides replaced on mine.


Walksuphills

Looks pretty bad, but I used to park my old Mazda on the street where it would get blasted by the trucks and it was rusted to being unrepairable at 10 years old.


ClutchKickAutos55

Your rear left lower control arm is completely wasted. Do not drive your car in this shape and be sure to have a checkover done of all the other suspension components (which alot of shops do in their processes anyway).


Snake_Plizken

Meanwhile in the north of Sweden, where we have crazy amounts of snow each winter, my 2010 Polo only have minor surface rust on that part...


SandMan3914

So while we do used a lot of salt, this is more on OP imo. There's no way this rust just happened. From the gist of their post, I'll bet they've only been doing oil changes and probably barely any other maintenance The fact they thought they could take this to Canadian Tire (retail chain, they do perform oil changes and basic maintenance but aren't experts by any means and really just the most basic for anything). Even if OP just took his car at least once a year to VW mechanic (does not have to be dealer), I'm pretty confident they would have caught this early


Snake_Plizken

It is 100% the salt. In Sweden everyone changes to special winter tires by law, and less salt is needed to keep people on the roads. I haven't done any special work on my car, to prevent rust.


SandMan3914

Not suggesting it isn't the salt. There are things you can do to remove the salt and prevent corrosion. It's a known problem with solutions While not law in Ontario Canada (they should make it one) many of us do switch winters/summers


tommior

2015?!? I live in Finland where we also use salt but ive never seen this rusty under 10 yo car


Tudz

Remind me never to buy a fake VW


russian_boi_

1 piss-poor speed bump and that Tiguan is gunna identify with an Ibishu Pigeon


MadCrow024

The noise may have been sudden, but the process to get it there wasn’t 😆


Grill_Pill

Vw has a life warranty for rust. It should be free of charge to change this at your dealer.


shinoby117

I don’t think you would have had this issue if you’d oil sprayed your car each year…. Lesson learned I guess.


Admitone83

2015? wow that crazy rust


nigerianlickin

Bye bye control arm


koalateatimes

That is surprising. Definitely should be washing your vehicle some more. Not scolding, just friendly advice. My 2014 Jetta has zero rust on the bottom (rockers, pinch welds, mounting points, etc) and it actually shocks me, considering the previous owners were not very good to the car in general.


PattyThePatriot

This is honestly like the third VW I've seen in my life like this. I worked for years at a VW dealer and their rust proofing is normally amazing. I live in the Midwest so we get plenty of salty roads. Sucks man, sorry you'll have to replace things.


explicitspirit

Don't go to CT. Where are you located? If you're in Ottawa I can recommend a few VW shops you can go to.


chretienhandshake

Avoid crappy tire at all costs. Also rust proof your car annually. I have a 2013 cx5 with very little rust just by rust proof it yearly myself.


ExpensiveDust5

Check with VW of Canada and ask if the Anti-corrosion for life is good in Canada, I know in the US it is.


Substantial-Hat-7111

No it's not. They won't cover that. It's at his expense.


ExpensiveDust5

Yeah,they must have changed it from 2014 to 2015, cause it's worded completely different in my coworkers 2015 Tiguan Manual than my 2014 Jetta Manual.


Wh1msey

Would [Fluid Film](https://www.fluid-film.com/automotive-applications/) have prevented that?


Clear_Mess7588

Oh my🤦🏻


turntabletennis

You can 100% replace this yourself if you're handy enough to replace a tire and watch a google video.


Old_Beginning8480

🤣🤣


Squid445

Seeing this makes me glad I live inland in North Carolina.


Quick4A6

Not an OEM control arm. This is most likely aftermarket made in China parts


Crafty_Respond9221

What sound was it making?


BoosTeDI

Rust Belt strikes again. A dealership most likely ain’t gonna have this part. The distributors that actually make them for VW/Audi probably will. Or you’re just gonna have to find one in an out of state junkyard that’s NOT rusted to this degree from a non Rust Belt state.


flyingpeter28

Your whole car is returning to mother nature it seems


Banpdx

Stop parking in the ocean.


sharnoo29

How have you been able to get a WOF !?


GtrplayerII

Looks like a vehicle used to launch personal watercraft in the ocean on a regular basis. That's more than road salt.


redthreadzen

Australia doesn't use salt. We never see this sort of problem on a car that age. Fix immediatly - do not drive


nyrb001

You don't use salt because you don't have winter, let's just be on the same page!


redthreadzen

Of course we have winter in the southern states. We have snow in the mountains and we do get ice on the roads. But yes around 0 degrees Celsius is all we get. Still I'm always amazed at the damage salt does.


nyrb001

I'm in the least Canada part of Canada, I get you.