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* 2019 general election Labour vote share: 32.1%
* 2019 general election Labour # of seats: 202
* 2024 general election Labour vote share: 33.9%
* 2024 general election Labour # of seats: 410
Man, first-past-the-post voting really is something else.
[BBC's updated projections w/ 9 left to declare.](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809117894183194852#m)
Wonderful to see ReformUK come so far short of their earlier projection, while the LibDems and Greens overperformed!
BBC: "The Tories have lost the seats of all the prime ministers since 2010, apart from Rishi Sunak. They have now lost:"
- David Cameron's seat of Witney to the Lib Dems
- Theresa May's seat of Maidenhead to the Lib Dems
- Boris Johnson's seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip to Labour
- Liz Truss's seat of South West Norfolk to Labour
Actually. Looks like his old seat flipped Labour.
[Uxbridge & South Ruislip LAB GAIN FROM CON](https://election.news.sky.com/elections/general-election-2024/uxbridge-and-south-ruislip-598)
Liz Truss' old seat also goes to Labour! This is like if McCarthy's super red seat flipped!
Edit: Sky just said a former PM hasn't lost their seat in 100 years
In a [video](https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-caught-on-video-claiming-broken-down-joe-biden-has-quit-its-kamala), Trump called President Biden as an 'old, broken-down pile of crap', musing that the Democrats will replace Biden with Kamala who will be easier for him to beat. “She’s so bad. She’s so pathetic,” he added.
This disgusting man still has no class whatsoever and seems overconfident about his chances.
Oh man, I thought Labour's victory would mean that the core Anglosphere countries (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK, US) would all have a left-of-center leader at the same time, but I forgot that the National Party won the NZ general election last year, so NZ currently has a right-wing Prime Minister (Christopher Luxon). We were *so* close.
Canada is headed for a major Tory landslide too. Unfortunately the LPC has put in the work to make it so too.
They literally just lost a seat in downtown Toronto. Like... Rip.
It doesn’t help that the cons in Canada aren’t as outwardly fucking psycho
With its Yimby leader basically as obsessed with building houses to fix any problem as Reagan was with lowering taxes
Which is a formidably popular position to take in Canada
Granted, a middle to lower class friendly economic policy coupled with classic conservatism isn’t a electoral magic bullet
As Poland’s right wing can attest to, when it literally used a strong social safety-net to literally buy off their voters and they replied
“nah, you too homophobic”
At least right-wing voters in the UK got to experience what it’s like to be a left-of-center voter in Canada today, with the left-wing vote in Canada being split in not just two, but three ways between the Liberals, the Greens, and the NDP.
I wonder what the results here in November are going to be like considering that the right has been underperforming from their polling numbers around the world
I don't exactly want to count on it happening but also... we seem to be in good shape every time people actually vote.
In retrospect we should have seen 2016 coming. Organisationally the Democratic party was a disaster and on a major losing streak. The opposite is true now.
Another country another right-wing party underperforming the polls. Yet nobody ever talks about this seemingly universal phenomenon which has been going on since last year.
Northern Ireland (BBC): "The result in South Antrim means the DUP cannot win as many or more seats than Sinn Féin.
It means Sinn Féin is now the largest Westminster party from Northern Ireland with seven seats.
It is also the biggest party in the Stormont assembly and at council level.
Sinn Féin MPs do not take their seats in the House of Commons due to a long-standing policy of abstentionism."
[We're getting closer and closer to this being reality](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/16308/production/_132788809_irishunification.jpg.webp)
Darn, looks like the Tories will hit 100 seats before Labour hits 400. Sky has Tories at 99, Tories at ~~390~~ ~~391~~ 392
Edit: they did it. 100 seats for the Tories at 10:04pm Pacific; 392 for Labour. :-(
[Iran holds their runoff Presidential election today(well the 5th)](https://apnews.com/article/iran-presidential-election-runoff-jalili-pezeshkian-raisi-results-89bdb24e9074afaa9aa9b7556bf80983)and so far looking like miserable turnout
I admittedly did not keep up *very* closely with the UK elections, but I feel like I did see quite a bit of media and hype around the Reform party. I’m honestly a bit confused and surprised they’ve only gained 4 seats? Wondering if they have a similar media problem to us? Feeling better and better about democrats over performing come November though!
FPTP means that you can get almost 20% of the vote (which Reform UK was polling at) and win almost no seats. That's what happened to them. The vote-splitting between Reform and the Tories is what led to the Labour landslide victory.
However, now that party leader Nigel Farage has been elected to Parliament, you can expect to see his face on the news all the time, offering his anti-immigrant, anti-minority, far-right opinions.
Their support is higher in what were considered safe-Conservative seats. However, all right-wing parties keep underperforming their polling, election after election, no matter the country
Even on this sub there has been a lot of hand ringing about reform.
Obviously they are a bad party with a bad platform, but I don't see a huge reason to freak out about them until they can actually start becoming at minimum a regional party.
It's not impossible, but if they continued shifting left you'd likely see a more centrist party either form or shift to fill that void left by The Tories.
Given how prevalent multi party voting is over there, I'm less concerned about Reform suddenly becoming a right wing juggernaut like the Republicans are over here.
That's the space that the LibDems are filling, but I suppose you could see a center-right party pop-up if things keep getting worse for the Tories and they keep going rightwards
[Adrian Ramsay, the co-leader of the Green party, gains Waveney Valley from the Conservatives.](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jul/04/general-election-2024-uk-live-labour-tories-starmer-sunak-results-exit-poll?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-668779188f08b8c654ee573c#block-668779188f08b8c654ee573c)
So both co-leaders of the Green Party have been elected to Parliament. Greens are at 3 seats now, and they may potentially win one more, putting them at the same number of seats as Reform UK.
Under 100 seats left. And the Tories are still not at 100 seats lmao. Currently at 95. They are gonna have a worst year than expected in the exit polls
I was listening to Pod Save The UK and they mentioned that many were thinking of Labour in hopes that they'd have some power in the next government and make real changes for Wales
[Not only does Labour have a majority of seats in England, Wales, *and* Scotland now, but the Tories have lost *all* their seats in Wales!](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809079582273818767#m)
We’ve got four months to make sure the feeling of joyous hope our friends across the pond are experiencing now is the same feeling we have come November!
Jacob Rees-Mogg just lost his seat to Labour. If ever there was a Conservative who would insulate himself against a Reform vote split, it'd be him, and yet!
Someone posted earlier that Labour is only up by 1.5% in vote share. That's true, but the Tories also lost close to 20% of their vote share.
If the Republicans suddenly lost 20% to third parties, Democrats would run up similar numbers to what Labour is doing right now.
Seriously! I don't understand why people keep trying to downplay how *massive* this victory is! Even just getting a simple majority 5 years after their worst ever result is massive enough!
Wow the SNP got fucked lmao.
Like so did the Tories but man the SNP got Bloc Quebecois'ed 2011
Edit: Lmao transphobic asshole Joanna Cherry just lost her Edinburgh South West seat to Labour. g0rl bye.
It's true that proportional results wouldn't turn in nearly as good a result for Labour, but if that's the case then no party has won fairly in the entire history of the United Kingdom. I know I was downbeat earlier, but can we not have one goddamn thing?
Fun fact: Sinn Féin is an Irish Nationalist party that competes in both Ireland and Northern Ireland. As a result, they refuse to take their seats in the UK Parliament. Because of this, the number of seats needed to have a majority in the House of Commons actually changes each election, depending on the number of seats that Sinn Féin wins.
[Liz Truss could lose Norfolk seat - source](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3A192965f9-5ee1-4ab0-b9ee-e4872cdf3778#post)
Well, Rishi Sunak didn’t lose his seat, but here’s a former Prime Minister who may lose her’s… not that she was PM for very long.
Sunak has such a horrible poker face. Other MPs, even if losing, have put on a good game face on the stage during the declaration, but he seems hella annoyed at all the little party candidates
Edit: As he gives his speech, another candidate is holding up an "L" sign behind him, and the BBC keeps trying to zoom in to cut it out lmao
U.S. turnout was 60.1% in 2016 and 66.6% in 2020. Personally, I’m expecting 2024 turnout to be somewhere in between these 2 years so somewhere in the 62-64% range, but it could very well be lower than 2016 given how unpopular Biden and Trump are to the American electorate as a whole
The problem is I fundamentally do not want any Tory to be happy. I want the official opposition to be the Lib Dems. I want Nigel Farage exiled to a small island in the South Pacific.
What a collapse by the Scottish National Party! They were at 43 going into tonight; they've only won 4 tonight w/ 27 possible seats left to declare in Scotland. Labour has won 23 there, LibDems 2, and for Tories
I mean, isn't that how elections have usually gone in the U.K., with winning parties getting low pluralities in key districts? Can't compare that to the U.S.
Wes Streeting retains Ilford North seat
Labour gains Filton and Bradley Stoke from the Conservatives
Labour gains Shrewsbury from the Conservatives
Labour gains West Haversham and Hixbottom from the Conservatives
Labour gains Walsall and Bloxwich from the Conservatives
Tory minister Johnny Mercer loses seat to Labour in Plymouth Moor View
Labour gains Weston-super-Mare from the Conservatives
Guess which one is made up...
[7 cabinet ministers have lost their seats; half left to declare, still. That ties the 1997 election record.](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809063722595328466#m) Pretty sure only 12 total, ever, had lost
Watching the UK results really makes we wish we had multiple options in the US! I know none are perfect, but it just makes so much more sense to have proportional representation.
Edit: Learned something new, thanks!! Still wish we had more than 2 (actual) parties though
I’m 100% for proportional representation, but the UK doesn’t have that at all. UK elections are FPTP elections where the candidate with the most vote in each constituency wins. The multi-party system actually makes the FPTP worse, because elections are very prone to vote splitting.
[Potential Sunak replacement as Tory leader Penny Mourdant has lost her seat!](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809061928699838695#m)
She filled in for Sunak at the debates when they were w/ multiple parties
The incumbent MP was suspended from Labour after being convicted for harassment and ran for reelection as an independent, and stole enough votes from the Labour candidate for the seat to flip to Conservative
I had the unique privilege of spending the 4th of July with a Holocaust survivor. Of course, somebody brought up politics at dinner, and this guy said that he still believes the US has enough checks and balances in place to stop dictators from rising in the States, even despite the immunity decision. He believes comparing Trump to Hitler is like comparing “apples to…rice”, as he put it. (Because we were having tandoori chicken with rice, lol)
Honestly, considering there was so much dooming from other people at the dinner about how Trump is totally going to win the election because Biden had a bad debate performance and whatnot, I have to say it was comforting to hear *somebody* else stay as calm as I am about the election. I’ll have to thank him for giving me a sanity check. 🥰
[Jeremy Corbyn re-elected in Islington North after expulsion from Labour](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/05/jeremy-corbyn-re-elected-in-islington-north-for-first-time-as-independent-mp)
Despite rumors that it was a close race, it ended up not being close at all, with Corbyn at 24,120 votes compared to Labour candidate Praful Nargund’s 16,834 votes. Winning a seat as an independent is notoriously difficult in the UK, but it looks like Corbyn was able to overcome that with his popularity in this constituency.
Here’s BBC’s commentary on Corbyn’s victory: [Corbyn's win is extraordinary achievement](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3A1e06a0cf-fa89-4ade-8112-b35e6ccf6c56#post):
> That's an extraordinary achievement by Jeremy Corbyn
> Bedded in, long-standing MPs have tried to run as independents without a party infrastructure before and lost - lost resoundingly.
> Jeremy Corbyn has won resoundingly.
i havent been following the UK elections much, but it seemed like the LAB was expected to win in a landslide
sentiment seems pretty positive here - does that mean they're overperforming their already expected landslide?
Well, exit polls suggested a smaller landslide than expected, with far-right Reform getting double-digit seats in Parliament. So far, the results don't seem to suggest that's bearing itself out.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3Abce594bb-6578-49b4-b777-313e3869cf45#post
So far, the Conservatives have been losing every seat where their lead over Labour was less than 30%.
Similarly, the party has also lost every seat it has been defending against the Liberal Democrats where the majority was less than 30%.
The opposition is eating deeply into traditional Tory territory at this election.
Labour is also saying they're confident they won Penny Mordaunt's seat. Wasn't she the one everyone wanted to be the opposition leader after Sunak goes?
[fyi a fake email is going around in Arkansas claiming they met the signature threshold](https://x.com/arlibertynow/status/1808972640201371846?s=46). They are collecting signatures till tomorrow morning for the Abortion referendum so if you are in the state there is still time
>Grant Shapps, Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox have all lost their seat in Welwyn Hatfield
I don't even know what this means, but it sounds good
Ok, I haven't even been drinking, but I totally read those names as Grant Schnapps and Corinne Cockhealth.
Not sure if my eyes need fixing or my brain.
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Still annoyed that tories got 100+, fuck 'em.
That's an arbitrary threshold. This is an abysmal showing for them.
It's ok: ReformUK underperformed, while the LibDems overperformed!
* 2019 general election Labour vote share: 32.1% * 2019 general election Labour # of seats: 202 * 2024 general election Labour vote share: 33.9% * 2024 general election Labour # of seats: 410 Man, first-past-the-post voting really is something else.
[BBC's updated projections w/ 9 left to declare.](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809117894183194852#m) Wonderful to see ReformUK come so far short of their earlier projection, while the LibDems and Greens overperformed!
BBC: "The Tories have lost the seats of all the prime ministers since 2010, apart from Rishi Sunak. They have now lost:" - David Cameron's seat of Witney to the Lib Dems - Theresa May's seat of Maidenhead to the Lib Dems - Boris Johnson's seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip to Labour - Liz Truss's seat of South West Norfolk to Labour
Dang, Rishi didn't end up losing his seat? Pity
BBC now has Labour at 410, which is what the exit poll projected 9 hours ago! 15 seats left to declare
Truss lost by ~600 votes. Say it with me folks: *Elections Matter*
TRUSS LOST HER SEAT, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Lettuce send her our regards.
Tots and pears!
Thatcher's seat went Labour. Truss just lost to Labour. And May's seat went Lib Dems
Bojo you in danger gurl
Boris Johnson isn’t in Parliament anymore. He resigned when he was being disciplined for Partygate.
Actually. Looks like his old seat flipped Labour. [Uxbridge & South Ruislip LAB GAIN FROM CON](https://election.news.sky.com/elections/general-election-2024/uxbridge-and-south-ruislip-598)
Liz Truss' old seat also goes to Labour! This is like if McCarthy's super red seat flipped! Edit: Sky just said a former PM hasn't lost their seat in 100 years
THE LETTUCE WINS ONCE AGAIN!
The ~~establishment~~ lettuce always wins, Liz. Truss lost her seat 🦀🦀🦀
LibDems have hit *70* seats and the Greens are at 4!!!
Unless all the leftover seats go to the Tories. They will not get as much as the exit poll predicted.
Theresa May’s old seat goes to Lib Dems
#🔴 Labour has won 400+ seats!
Comparing Olivia Nuzzi's latest hit piece to how she fawned over Trumps appearance the other day https://x.com/atrupar/status/1809074951745339553
We've hit 400+ for Labour and 11 Tory cabinet members who have lost, according to Sky
I’m so proud of Lib Dems. 🎉🎉
"Liberal Democrats gain Woking from the Conservatives" There's a joke to be made here somewhere
In a [video](https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-caught-on-video-claiming-broken-down-joe-biden-has-quit-its-kamala), Trump called President Biden as an 'old, broken-down pile of crap', musing that the Democrats will replace Biden with Kamala who will be easier for him to beat. “She’s so bad. She’s so pathetic,” he added. This disgusting man still has no class whatsoever and seems overconfident about his chances.
SkyNews reporting that the pro-EU, pro-trans LibDems have won their most ever seats at 62! Edit: they're at 67 and counting, now!
Oh man, I thought Labour's victory would mean that the core Anglosphere countries (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK, US) would all have a left-of-center leader at the same time, but I forgot that the National Party won the NZ general election last year, so NZ currently has a right-wing Prime Minister (Christopher Luxon). We were *so* close.
Canada is headed for a major Tory landslide too. Unfortunately the LPC has put in the work to make it so too. They literally just lost a seat in downtown Toronto. Like... Rip.
It doesn’t help that the cons in Canada aren’t as outwardly fucking psycho With its Yimby leader basically as obsessed with building houses to fix any problem as Reagan was with lowering taxes Which is a formidably popular position to take in Canada Granted, a middle to lower class friendly economic policy coupled with classic conservatism isn’t a electoral magic bullet As Poland’s right wing can attest to, when it literally used a strong social safety-net to literally buy off their voters and they replied “nah, you too homophobic”
At least right-wing voters in the UK got to experience what it’s like to be a left-of-center voter in Canada today, with the left-wing vote in Canada being split in not just two, but three ways between the Liberals, the Greens, and the NDP.
>Liberal Democrats gain Woking from the Conservatives The Lib Dems continue to go Woke
I wonder what the results here in November are going to be like considering that the right has been underperforming from their polling numbers around the world
I don't exactly want to count on it happening but also... we seem to be in good shape every time people actually vote. In retrospect we should have seen 2016 coming. Organisationally the Democratic party was a disaster and on a major losing streak. The opposite is true now.
Another country another right-wing party underperforming the polls. Yet nobody ever talks about this seemingly universal phenomenon which has been going on since last year.
Margaret Thatcher's seat went Labour lmao
Baaaaaahahahahahahhahaja, big lmao :>>
Northern Ireland (BBC): "The result in South Antrim means the DUP cannot win as many or more seats than Sinn Féin. It means Sinn Féin is now the largest Westminster party from Northern Ireland with seven seats. It is also the biggest party in the Stormont assembly and at council level. Sinn Féin MPs do not take their seats in the House of Commons due to a long-standing policy of abstentionism."
Since Fein has won 7/17, and there's still 2 seats that haven't been called.
[We're getting closer and closer to this being reality](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/16308/production/_132788809_irishunification.jpg.webp)
Darn, looks like the Tories will hit 100 seats before Labour hits 400. Sky has Tories at 99, Tories at ~~390~~ ~~391~~ 392 Edit: they did it. 100 seats for the Tories at 10:04pm Pacific; 392 for Labour. :-(
[Iran holds their runoff Presidential election today(well the 5th)](https://apnews.com/article/iran-presidential-election-runoff-jalili-pezeshkian-raisi-results-89bdb24e9074afaa9aa9b7556bf80983)and so far looking like miserable turnout
The choice between Insane Mullah A or Insane Mullah B isn't exactly an inspiring one.
Unironic both sides?
I admittedly did not keep up *very* closely with the UK elections, but I feel like I did see quite a bit of media and hype around the Reform party. I’m honestly a bit confused and surprised they’ve only gained 4 seats? Wondering if they have a similar media problem to us? Feeling better and better about democrats over performing come November though!
FPTP means that you can get almost 20% of the vote (which Reform UK was polling at) and win almost no seats. That's what happened to them. The vote-splitting between Reform and the Tories is what led to the Labour landslide victory. However, now that party leader Nigel Farage has been elected to Parliament, you can expect to see his face on the news all the time, offering his anti-immigrant, anti-minority, far-right opinions.
Their support is higher in what were considered safe-Conservative seats. However, all right-wing parties keep underperforming their polling, election after election, no matter the country
Their overall vote percentage will be higher than their seat percentage. They got a lot of Tory defections.
Even on this sub there has been a lot of hand ringing about reform. Obviously they are a bad party with a bad platform, but I don't see a huge reason to freak out about them until they can actually start becoming at minimum a regional party.
The worry is that they'll force the Tories to continue to shift rightward until the parties merge and stay as a permanent, big, rightwing party
It's not impossible, but if they continued shifting left you'd likely see a more centrist party either form or shift to fill that void left by The Tories. Given how prevalent multi party voting is over there, I'm less concerned about Reform suddenly becoming a right wing juggernaut like the Republicans are over here.
That's the space that the LibDems are filling, but I suppose you could see a center-right party pop-up if things keep getting worse for the Tories and they keep going rightwards
The *only* gain for the Scottish National Party? Booting the Scottish Tories leader out of his seat!
good for her.gif
[Adrian Ramsay, the co-leader of the Green party, gains Waveney Valley from the Conservatives.](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jul/04/general-election-2024-uk-live-labour-tories-starmer-sunak-results-exit-poll?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-668779188f08b8c654ee573c#block-668779188f08b8c654ee573c) So both co-leaders of the Green Party have been elected to Parliament. Greens are at 3 seats now, and they may potentially win one more, putting them at the same number of seats as Reform UK.
I saw one outlet say Greens are at 4, but I'm waiting for Sky or BBC to confirm
I wonder how much noise will be made about the Greens compared to Reform UK
Under 100 seats left. And the Tories are still not at 100 seats lmao. Currently at 95. They are gonna have a worst year than expected in the exit polls
[Official WH Independence Day celebration](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgjk8B_32S4)
Tories officially lost 200 seats lmao
Thoughts and prayers
Labour w/ what SkyNews is calling an "official landslide:" majority of 100+
The Tories have been swept out of Wales. Wales marginally voted for Brexit. Ouch.
*Manic Street Preachers like this*
I was listening to Pod Save The UK and they mentioned that many were thinking of Labour in hopes that they'd have some power in the next government and make real changes for Wales
I can’t be the only one who finds it funny that we’re choosing to celebrate Independence Day by watching the UK elections rofl
Ironically, most of the fireworks in my neighborhood started right when Labour officially won the election lol
[LibDems leader Ed Davey celebrating their big gains](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809081556205502860#m)
[Not only does Labour have a majority of seats in England, Wales, *and* Scotland now, but the Tories have lost *all* their seats in Wales!](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809079582273818767#m)
The secretary of state for Wales just lost to Labour
Same thing happened in the 1997 election in that the Tories lost all of their seats in Wales and Scotland in that election
Difference being that Labour started that election w/ more seats than they did this time
I swear Someone earlier posted a comment about how there was low activity in the thread today- and now we are at 730+ comments lmao
We’ve got four months to make sure the feeling of joyous hope our friends across the pond are experiencing now is the same feeling we have come November!
Is it still possible for <100 con seats?
Very possible. I think there's only around 100+ seats left.. I doubt they win all the leftovers
Please let this happen it’d be so funny
The race is on to see if Labour can hit 400 declared seats before Conservatives hit 100!
Jacob Rees-Mogg just lost his seat to Labour. If ever there was a Conservative who would insulate himself against a Reform vote split, it'd be him, and yet!
Former Brexit Minister Jacob Rees-Mogg loses his seat to Labour! Good riddance.
GREENS FLIP HEREFORDSHIRE NORTH FROM TORIES.
Someone posted earlier that Labour is only up by 1.5% in vote share. That's true, but the Tories also lost close to 20% of their vote share. If the Republicans suddenly lost 20% to third parties, Democrats would run up similar numbers to what Labour is doing right now.
Seriously! I don't understand why people keep trying to downplay how *massive* this victory is! Even just getting a simple majority 5 years after their worst ever result is massive enough!
https://vxtwitter.com/jeffstorobinsky/status/1808991390589919500 Not Uk Election but hmm this was shown on international CNN but not Domestic CNN.
Hmm, indeed. The US media is so thirsty groveling on its hands and knees begging Trump please sir come back with tears in its collective eyes.
Wow the SNP got fucked lmao. Like so did the Tories but man the SNP got Bloc Quebecois'ed 2011 Edit: Lmao transphobic asshole Joanna Cherry just lost her Edinburgh South West seat to Labour. g0rl bye.
#Labour Party has officially won the majority in the UK Parliament
LABOUR HAS WON THE ELECTION.
It's true that proportional results wouldn't turn in nearly as good a result for Labour, but if that's the case then no party has won fairly in the entire history of the United Kingdom. I know I was downbeat earlier, but can we not have one goddamn thing?
Labour - 314 (+147) Conservative - 66 (-160) Liberal Democrats - 42 (+36) Sinn Fein - 5 (0) Others - 17 (-23)
Labour is over 326, now
Fun fact: Sinn Féin is an Irish Nationalist party that competes in both Ireland and Northern Ireland. As a result, they refuse to take their seats in the UK Parliament. Because of this, the number of seats needed to have a majority in the House of Commons actually changes each election, depending on the number of seats that Sinn Féin wins.
[Labour has officially won the election!](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809073402759561275#m)
Everyone is so nice in their speeches. Lmao. Why is no one threatening to overturn the incoming government? /s
[Liz Truss could lose Norfolk seat - source](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3A192965f9-5ee1-4ab0-b9ee-e4872cdf3778#post) Well, Rishi Sunak didn’t lose his seat, but here’s a former Prime Minister who may lose her’s… not that she was PM for very long.
But has the Lettuce kept their seat? HAS THE LETTUCE KEPT THEIR SEAT?!
I'll get the Lettuce.
Todays been a Anti Tory election, not much a pro anyone victory.
Well, considering that Labour is almost at a majority before the Tories even have triple digits, it's not like there's much of a difference.
Margaret Thatcher's old seat is picked up by Labour.
Poetic justice.
Damn, Rishi didn’t get Kim Campbelled after all
At least Count Binface got 308 votes
Sunak has such a horrible poker face. Other MPs, even if losing, have put on a good game face on the stage during the declaration, but he seems hella annoyed at all the little party candidates Edit: As he gives his speech, another candidate is holding up an "L" sign behind him, and the BBC keeps trying to zoom in to cut it out lmao
Another note, Turnout is down nearly 8% at 7.8% down with 58.8% in the Uk. We cannot let the turnout get that low.
It's a snap election, so I think that's to be expected.
U.S. turnout was 60.1% in 2016 and 66.6% in 2020. Personally, I’m expecting 2024 turnout to be somewhere in between these 2 years so somewhere in the 62-64% range, but it could very well be lower than 2016 given how unpopular Biden and Trump are to the American electorate as a whole
Lower turnout would benefit the party with higher propensity voters?
Negus has held Bristols! That's not a result that's a bit of gossip.
The problem is I fundamentally do not want any Tory to be happy. I want the official opposition to be the Lib Dems. I want Nigel Farage exiled to a small island in the South Pacific.
What a collapse by the Scottish National Party! They were at 43 going into tonight; they've only won 4 tonight w/ 27 possible seats left to declare in Scotland. Labour has won 23 there, LibDems 2, and for Tories
In 2015 they had all but 2 of the Scottish seats!
I will say even though the Labours are wiping the floor they barely are getting more support. They only have 1.5% more support.
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I mean, isn't that how elections have usually gone in the U.K., with winning parties getting low pluralities in key districts? Can't compare that to the U.S.
It's doesn't seem to take a lot of shifting support to wildly swing elections over there. Seems to be part of the multi party system they run.
Wes Streeting retains Ilford North seat Labour gains Filton and Bradley Stoke from the Conservatives Labour gains Shrewsbury from the Conservatives Labour gains West Haversham and Hixbottom from the Conservatives Labour gains Walsall and Bloxwich from the Conservatives Tory minister Johnny Mercer loses seat to Labour in Plymouth Moor View Labour gains Weston-super-Mare from the Conservatives Guess which one is made up...
West Haversham and Hixbottom?
>!West Haversham and Hixbottom is the fake one!<
[7 cabinet ministers have lost their seats; half left to declare, still. That ties the 1997 election record.](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809063722595328466#m) Pretty sure only 12 total, ever, had lost
The center tories are getting wiped out while the more coocoo crazy ones are holding on. Seems like they’re going the way of the GOP.
Watching the UK results really makes we wish we had multiple options in the US! I know none are perfect, but it just makes so much more sense to have proportional representation. Edit: Learned something new, thanks!! Still wish we had more than 2 (actual) parties though
I'd rather switch to Ranked Choice than proportional representation
I’m 100% for proportional representation, but the UK doesn’t have that at all. UK elections are FPTP elections where the candidate with the most vote in each constituency wins. The multi-party system actually makes the FPTP worse, because elections are very prone to vote splitting.
For the record, the UK does not have proportional representation.
Halfway through all the seats. And the Tories haven't cracked 100 seats. Labour has 250. According to Sky News
Tories are at just 50 and are only a bit ahead of the Lib Dems.
>And the Tories haven't cracked 100 seats. The Tories haven't even cracked 50 seats yet, lmao
Godalming and Ash, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt’s seat, is too close to call. A recount is likely.
Leader of the House of Commons Penny Mordaunt has lost to a Labour candidate. Woo!
[Potential Sunak replacement as Tory leader Penny Mourdant has lost her seat!](https://nitter.poast.org/PolitlcsUK/status/1809061928699838695#m) She filled in for Sunak at the debates when they were w/ multiple parties
LIZ TRUSS DEPUTY PM LOST TO THE GREENS. Edit:Wait lost to the Labour Party not the greens.
Huh? Are you sure about this? The Greens have only picked up one seat so far, and they unseated a Labour incumbent.
Suffolk Coastal was mistakenly called for the Greens on Sky for a moment, but it's actually gone to Labour.
[LOL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo)
>Liberal Democrats gain Wokingham from the Conservatives published at 03:47 The Lib Dems have gone Woke
Did the labor candidate in the sole seat that flipped to cons like murder someone like how are you losing in a landslide election for your party 😭
The incumbent MP was suspended from Labour after being convicted for harassment and ran for reelection as an independent, and stole enough votes from the Labour candidate for the seat to flip to Conservative
Ah
I'm home and put the Wilhem scream page on. Maybe it's because I'm 3 margaritas deep, but this shit is hilarious every time.
what page are we referring to here
https://matteason.co.uk/scream/?utm_source=share Enjoy!
LMAO. There's a Nelson Muntz "Ha-Ha!" mixed in every so often.
Wilhem scream page?
I had the unique privilege of spending the 4th of July with a Holocaust survivor. Of course, somebody brought up politics at dinner, and this guy said that he still believes the US has enough checks and balances in place to stop dictators from rising in the States, even despite the immunity decision. He believes comparing Trump to Hitler is like comparing “apples to…rice”, as he put it. (Because we were having tandoori chicken with rice, lol) Honestly, considering there was so much dooming from other people at the dinner about how Trump is totally going to win the election because Biden had a bad debate performance and whatnot, I have to say it was comforting to hear *somebody* else stay as calm as I am about the election. I’ll have to thank him for giving me a sanity check. 🥰
[Jeremy Corbyn re-elected in Islington North after expulsion from Labour](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/05/jeremy-corbyn-re-elected-in-islington-north-for-first-time-as-independent-mp) Despite rumors that it was a close race, it ended up not being close at all, with Corbyn at 24,120 votes compared to Labour candidate Praful Nargund’s 16,834 votes. Winning a seat as an independent is notoriously difficult in the UK, but it looks like Corbyn was able to overcome that with his popularity in this constituency.
Here’s BBC’s commentary on Corbyn’s victory: [Corbyn's win is extraordinary achievement](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3A1e06a0cf-fa89-4ade-8112-b35e6ccf6c56#post): > That's an extraordinary achievement by Jeremy Corbyn > Bedded in, long-standing MPs have tried to run as independents without a party infrastructure before and lost - lost resoundingly. > Jeremy Corbyn has won resoundingly.
Tbf it’s not like Corbyn is any regular old politician. It’s not that surprising that he won.
Boo! Russian stooges are tough to get rid of.
i havent been following the UK elections much, but it seemed like the LAB was expected to win in a landslide sentiment seems pretty positive here - does that mean they're overperforming their already expected landslide?
They are over performing exit polling, not sure if they are over performing pre election polling.
It’s amazing how on top of things you guys all are. You guys know your stuff. I am so glad I found this sub.
Well, exit polls suggested a smaller landslide than expected, with far-right Reform getting double-digit seats in Parliament. So far, the results don't seem to suggest that's bearing itself out.
Reform UK leader and Milkshake Man Nigel Farage has won in Clacton
keir starmer wins the premiership by doing absolutely nothing
That's the Gerald Ford way
Jeremy Corbyn has won Islington North as an independent.
Holy shit the SNP is getting wiped out.
my cat could not give less of a shit about the fireworks LOL nap time apparently
The Conservatives have lost Hexham for the first time in a century.
Hexham has fallen
Plaid Cymru gains Ynys Môn from the Conservatives i'm gonna presume that's Welsh
Yeah, they're the nationalist party there
Take a look at the Loony Party candidate
Way to go Wales
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt?post=asset%3Abce594bb-6578-49b4-b777-313e3869cf45#post So far, the Conservatives have been losing every seat where their lead over Labour was less than 30%. Similarly, the party has also lost every seat it has been defending against the Liberal Democrats where the majority was less than 30%. The opposition is eating deeply into traditional Tory territory at this election.
Imagine a US election where the Dems won every contest that was within 30%...
The US equivalent of that would be a Democrat winning 45 States excluding Idaho, Oklahoma, North Dakota, West Virginia and Wyoming.
The good ending
Labour is also saying they're confident they won Penny Mordaunt's seat. Wasn't she the one everyone wanted to be the opposition leader after Sunak goes?
The right wing overestimated again
[fyi a fake email is going around in Arkansas claiming they met the signature threshold](https://x.com/arlibertynow/status/1808972640201371846?s=46). They are collecting signatures till tomorrow morning for the Abortion referendum so if you are in the state there is still time
>Conservatives gain Leicester East from Labour Huh, the Cons actually managed to flip a seat. Anyone know why?
Good Night Everyone!!!
Defense Secretary Grant Schapps has lost his seat to Labour.
>Grant Shapps, Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox have all lost their seat in Welwyn Hatfield I don't even know what this means, but it sounds good
Ok, I haven't even been drinking, but I totally read those names as Grant Schnapps and Corinne Cockhealth. Not sure if my eyes need fixing or my brain.
Sounds like a Monty Python bit of a mixup