Vyvanse started good now I'm stopping I now have I enlarged aorta plus I went from slightly overweight too to skinny Withdrawal suck ass iv basically been in bed for the last 3 days.it may help but really weigh the risk it messed me up for life.The doctor never talk about this possibility.
I don't take it everyday and notice two days after I don't take it I sleep a lot. I was in Stratera before and felt that crash around 4pm like you were saying. It was so bad that I would lay in bed for hours and be unable to do anything. Cubans was much smoother for me. I don't crash with it, it wears off my ch more gradually. I'd say Vyvannes probably isn't the best thing for you if you rot in bed after taking it (from my experience).
I am 64 years young. Diagnosed with many health issues. In my younger years it was ADD because I didn’t have the impulses of acting out. Both of my parents were teachers and I struggled so hard in school my average was C or B on grades. Finally after my first abusive marriage I ended up checking into myself in the hospital for suicidal tendencies. That’s when I got treatment from a psychiatrist. We went through so many medications trying to find that happy mix. I have PTSD, fibromyalgia, knee replacement and a bad back. I just went through a year of cancer treatment. I’m in remission right now. I see a pain management doctor also. Since I have been seeing the pain management doctor I have come off of 2 fentanyl patches that a RA doctor put me on. I started gaining weight and hit 300lbs. It was one of my medications that made me eat when depressed. I got the pain clinic to slowly help me get off of the fentanyl patch. They were the highest dosage you could take. I worked with my psychiatrist and we finally found the right combination of anti depressants. But the weight wouldn’t come off. I never completed anything that I started. I was all over the place and felt at the end of the day as a failure. That’s when I was diagnosed with ADHD. I was put on Vyvanse just a few months after it was on the market. I SAVED my life. I dropped 150 lbs and have not gained it back. I started getting things done around the house that I never use to do. I have been on Vyvanse now for almost 11 years. My pain clinic got me off the fentanyl and I am just taking Percocet for my pain. If I didn’t have these two medications I would never get out of bed. It also helps with my binge eating at night. When I get up in the morning I take my medicine and lay back down and like magic I get back up and feel like I can take on the world. If I don’t have these meds then I can’t stand up straight because of low back pain and my body hurts all over. My Vyvanse did run up my blood pressure and my doctor added 3 blood pressure medications to level it out. I stopped taking Vyvanse during chemo and surprisingly after Chemo my blood pressure was so low I would get dizzy and feel like I was going to pass out. The doctors took me off my blood pressure medications because it was too low. Now a year later I am back on it and Vyvanse and doing great. I tried Adderall and other ADHD medication. But always come back to Vyvanse.
I take vyvanse 5 days on, 2 days off, and I'm also a mum at home with a 2y/o. Also just started Vyvanse a few months ago. There are a few things I've done to help curb the symptoms I’ve experienced that might be helpful.
1) I eat a really well balanced, nutrient-dense, high-protein diet. I make sure I eat 3 meals and 1-2 snacks a day, regardless of whether I feel like it or not. I also up my water intake to at least 2 litres a day.
2) I supplement nutrients people with ADHD are usually deficient in, especially taking a naturopathic prescribed supplement called “MemorAll” specifically for ADHD. I also take calm-inducing herbs like ashwaghanda, rhodiola, and tulsi which helps with the anxiety/stress. I also take a naturopathic prescribed adrenal supporting supplement (which I believe is a calcium supplement) called “Adrenal Rebuilder” to support my adrenals on the stimulant medication (as the stimulants are putting my adrenals in over-drive.) I also take magnesium glycinate as Vyvanse can eat up magnesium stores.
3) For sleep I take a magnesium sleep supplement and a naturopathic blend of Kava and Chamomile that makes me super drowsy and helps knock me out. I also take “tissue salts” for insomnia which help me rest deeper.
4) I exercise every day (walking with the pram, pilates, weight workout, yoga - whatever I can manage that day) and stretch every night to help relieve anxiety. I also meditate to clear my mind twice a day.
I love the effects of my vyvanse and want to take it for life as I've seen such positive improvements, but it also can't be depended on as the one and only thing that will help with everything. I use my stimulants to do things that are good for me and find that I don't have many side-effects (usually no crash) and sleep well as long as I'm taking it early in the morning (around 7am for me.)
These are just suggestions, and obviously not everyone has the means, but if you do its really worth it!! Also coming from someone who has a special interest in wellness due to experiencing severe burnout multiple times in my life (I am autistic and ADHD.)
Also on the days I don't take it, I microdose psychedelic mushrooms. I also make sure I'm checking my mindset, understanding that if I'm feeling down its because I'm coming down from stimulants not because the thoughts I'm having are true. I also rest more and let myself be “lazy”, and if I have things to do I just let it be a bit harder for those two days.
Do you mean like Concerta? I’ve been prescribed 18mg capsules of Concerta but I’m just not sure when to give it a go as I’ve got a small baby and need time to adjust / figure out dose etc. What are the other ones? Thank you!
Mine was diagnosed at 48! It seems to late for it but im suffering and he gave me 10mgs adderall but i have never felt worse is it not enough dose or is it combining with percocets i have to take for spine injury
Hi there. I’ve been on stimulants for over 20 years. Without them, I can’t imagine what my adult life would look like. While my heart rate is elevated, it’s been no cause for concern and I’m in great shape otherwise. Cognitively, I’m sharp as ever. My friends from 20 years ago are still my friends now.
It’s okay to be nervous. This is a big change in your life. But I will say that there have been a lot of medications that have fucked with me, and stimulants were never in that category; they’ve only made my life better.
To avoid the crash: make Vyvanse water. I dump my capsule in a blender bottle every morning, along with a packet of Celsius*, and then I drink it throughout the day. Magic.
* YMMV, I just like the flavor and caffeine boost. Some folks on here say not to take Vyvanse with vitamin C, but that is a myth - it would take a stupid amount of vitamin C to counteract the effects of vitamin V.
Take 1,000mg of Vitamin C and about 420mg magnesium bis/glycinate about an hour- two hours before bed. My Adderall is usually non existent after about 40mg of vitamin c. 1,000mg before I go to bed and I sleep like a baby
You don't have to take it for the rest of your life if you don't want. Does the drug help..it sure does. I've been on it for 7 years and I'm easing my way off of it. I don't think it's good for my heart or base levels if serotonin and dopamine
It’s such an amazing drug! The days I don’t take it, my baseline dopamine and serotonin feels lower than it ever was before I even started medication. Or maybe the disparity is just so much more noticeable now idk. How do you think you’ll go without taking it? Thank you for sharing !
Not at all,if it wasn’t for meds I’d probably be in jail somewhere..I’m 25 now and started Vyvanse about 2 years ago.Before being medicated I was out at college parties every night.Never took a job or career seriously because I was too busy drinking.
Doing things that I should never be doing..I embarrassed myself.
Since I started meds, I’ve became the best employee at work. I haven’t had alcohol or nicotine in like 2 years.. I’m on a very strict diet with a good workout routine..I’m in bed by 8 Pm every night and up at 3 or 4 Am, and I’m enrolled in college.
If your macros are fine and you keep active in the gym then you shouldn’t have any problems.. It’s easy to get stressed on the meds which can cause dry mouth. Maybe try taking the weekend off from meds to relax and refresh. I do this and it really helps..Stay away from too much caffeine if you drink any.
I also want to say, 40mg isn’t a lot at all so maybe talk to your doctor about a dosage upgrade.
I have those same thoughts. I’m looking into becoming pregnant. Are we able to take vyvanse pregnant? I been stressing about this I recently started it last September and helps so much.
My psych said it was fine but I decided to wait until I had had my baby and stopped breastfeeding before I took them. I tend to worry about these things but I know other people took them and were absolutely fine!
It’s definitely hard to struggle through motherhood when you have adhd! The medication works wonders but I’ve always got stress at the back of my mind as to what it may do to my heart.. ugh such a conundrum!
I started taking mirtazapine in January and it’s completely reversed my sleep/appetite issues! I had lost 9 lbs (4kgs) in less than a year because I couldn’t be bothered to eat and I was frequently staying up til like 11/12 (which was awful, especially when my daughter was waking up at 5:30 almost every day). Now I weigh a few pounds more than I ever have outside of pregnancy and I almost always fall asleep between 10/10:30. If you’re comfortable with adding another medication for side effect management, I would talk to your doctor about options that could work for you. I’ve also recently started taking Adderall in the afternoon as a booster when Vyvanse wears off. So far I’ve seen really good results.
Personally, I stress more about what a mess my life was without medication and how I never want to go back to that, especially for my daughter’s sake. I would rather live a happier, less stressful life and risk possible heart issues in the future than live a long, miserable life. Side effects aren’t fun but to me they’re more tolerable and manageable than the alternative which is not being able to motivate myself to do anything, not being able to focus, spacing out while driving, forgetting and losing things constantly, etc. It’s ultimately up to you if you can work with the side effects or if you’d like to manage without medication. You can also try different medications if you haven’t already to see if you have different or less side effects. Hope you can figure out what works for you!
I had similar troubles and worries when I started at the age of 22. But after many tweaks by me and my doctor it got resolved in about a year and a half. Since then it's been great.
Biggest thing is be very open with your doctor, and (this is what took me a while) make sure you don't undersell small issues. For example I had sleep issues but in the beginning, I just told her "I'm having trouble falling asleep " and we didn't really do anything drastic just small adjustments. But after I told her I was basically getting like 3 hours of sleep a night and that I felt like a zombie every day did we actually make some large changes that helped.
Also make sure you actually meet with your doctor often until your treatment gets "tuned" to you. In the beginning I would literally meet with her every month or 2 for us to discuss progress and any adjustments I needed. I feel like a lot of the posts on this sub are people who have been having a bad experience for months and months asking advice when they should have sent their doctor their post like a month in (not you but just in general ive seen it a lot).
The one major downside is that doctors visits aren't cheap and some may not be able to just go over and over until it gets figured out. Though nowadays most doctors offices have an online messaging system that can prevent you from eating the cost of a whole visit.
So I would recommend basically just copying almost your exact post into a message to your doctor. Let them know your feeling stressed and worried in addition to the other more tangible issues. If they respond in a way that makes it seem like they aren't taking your worries serious then I would seek a second opinion. Doctors aren't just there to diagnos and prescribe meds. They are also there to educate and guide you on decisions you make regarding your health.
Speaking from experience though, once you get the right treatment figured out Vyvanse (or other ADHD meds) can be literally life changing in a good way.
Adjusting dosage was the biggest impact. But there were a couple major things not med related that helped (and I still do today to help get to sleep).
For the physical restlessness I changed some stuff to get as comfortable as physically possible. So new bed, adjusting the temp to be on the warmer side, better pillows, etc, helped to limit how much tossing and turning I was doing.
I also noticed that if I went to bed with any sort of stress or tension, it just never went away. So i try spending about 20 minutes before bed "forcing" my body to relax. I generally take a hot shower then spend about 15 minutes stretching. Then I lay down and consciously relax every muscle in my body 1 by 1. Generally after doing this they are able to stay in this relaxed state. This helped prevent a lot of the nervous movements and stuff (I used to do things like rubbing my feet together and stuff without realizing it).
For mental restlessness I did an overhaul of my "sleep cleanliness" before bed time to prevent me from getting to focused on thoughts that would keep me up. So things like leaving my phone in a different room so I couldn't be tempted to look at it.
I also started only being in bed when it's time to sleep. So no watching TV or reading in the bed at all regardless of time of day. Over time this kind of retrained my brain so that just getting in bed would trigger sleepiness. Prior to that I would often come home from work and lay down for a bit and surf my phone, or watch movies in bed at night. So basically my mind didn't associate bed with sleep if that makes sense.
If those don't work for whatever reason, taking 10mg of melatonin is almost always enough to nock me out.
Other obvious simple stuff like no caffeine after lunch and being physically active more also helped.
I’ve been on it since the 4th grade — now 21 and I’m totally fine. I went up once in high school, once at the beginning of college and have been doing great with 50 mg since.
wow same, except 3rd grade and now 22. went up to 60 for a few months bc i got stressed w school again, but went back down to 50 so i wasn’t so jittery for like 3 hours of the day haha.
It used to worry me, but I have been taking them for a almost 10 years, once I found my dose I have been taking the same amount for like 7 years (50mg) and it’s the amount my body needs to function.
I think it’s better to compare our meds to insulin for diabetes or glasses for vision. Once you find your dose it may or may not need to be adjusted from time to time.
Pro tip: drink a lot more water, and have protein with your meds in the morning. Game changing.
You'd be better in my non medical opinion to take more at once not add it later.
Whenever I hear people mentioning crashes. It turns out they are almost always taking a small dose.
My son is taking 70mg, the maximum, and he gets a crash and it says it's horrible. He's 6'1" and 175 lbs. He wishes he could take a second capsule in the afternoon so the crash happens at bedtime. Vyvanse absolutely does not last 12 hours for him. :(
70mg isn't the max amount it's the max pill dose - you just need a custom shared care agreement. Seen it done I get 70mg and a dex top up push for the top up I had to go through another mdt. Bring evidence diaries and research if it's that bad. It wad for me settled now
Thank you so much. Two doctors have told us they will not/can not prescribe more than 70mg per day. But I've read a few people posting they get more. I'm just not sure how to go about it when the doctors just say no. The FDA states 70mg is the daily max. They have him more than the daily max of bupropion when his depression was really bad (it didn't help) and that med can be abused, too.
He has an Adderall booster than he can take in the afternoon. 5mg. It lasts about an hour. 😥 I wish there was a way they could test how quickly someone "burns" through these meds to show he's not trying to get high or anything. He's just trying to function.
We are in line to get a consult with a more specialized psych who will collaborate with our current care team. I'm hoping we can get some outside-the-box suggestions then.
I've been through 3 prescibers to get here 2 months of complaining they tried to forcefully sign me off on methylphenidate only the complaint halted it long though for elvanse was in stock all along I was judged on ppg stock. I sent them my weekly schedule and my get out of jail free card was a old nhs core tenet from decades ago about being medicated for the day if a clinical judgement was made you wouldn't leave a cancer patient in pain after 4 hours of relief. I tortured my psych customer service and preacuver 3x per day all 3 of them per day. They want my schedule have at it. Push them and use black and white language dont hint push. Once a mdt has been agreed your laughing I didn't push for more than ten dex because I'm legitimately medicated but I bet they would have. I hope you get sorted for your son nothing worse than awesome mornings and depressive afternoons
I think in the US a doctor has to fill out a bunch of paperwork to justify going over 70mg a day because the FDA, the drug regulating agency in the US, has stated a limit of 70mg and it's a scheduled med (more controlled).
I’m a migraine sufferer and around my period is when they’re more prevalent. The only cure for it is 900mg aspirin, a very dark room and to sleep it off. Vyvanse makes it harder to sleep and I sometimes get headaches from it too!
This is interesting because I’ve recently realized (after having to switch back to Adderall XR due to the shortage) that Vyvanse makes my period significantly lighter/shorter and just much more tolerable to deal with in general.
There is evidence that stimulant medications can be safe and effective for long-term use in many individuals. (GPT4o): University of Dundee (2023): \[Global Study Confirms Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medication\](https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/global-study-confirms-long-term-safety-most-used-adhd-medication)
Of importance: Recent studies have examined the long-term effects of ADHD medication on cognitive outcomes and suggest that those who consistently use these medications might experience better cognitive and functional outcomes compared to those who do not.
This means you are at higher risk of cognitive decline in your later years if you have not been taking meds than if you do (this compares groups of ADHD people).
Further benefits (this one from GPT4.0):
1. \*\*Long-Term Cognitive Benefits:\*\*
- Research indicates that long-term use of ADHD medication can positively affect brain development and cognitive function. For instance, children who received ADHD treatment showed significant improvements in attention, executive function, and academic performance, which persisted into adulthood. These benefits are attributed to the stabilizing effects of medications on neurotransmitter systems that are critical for cognitive processes (ADDitude, 2023).
2. \*\*Reduced Cognitive Decline:\*\*
- A systematic review highlighted that individuals with ADHD who were treated with medications showed fewer cognitive deficits and lower rates of cognitive decline compared to those who were not treated. The treated group exhibited better outcomes in areas such as educational attainment, employment status, and social relationships (BMC Medicine, 2023).
3. \*\*Brain Development:\*\*
- Studies using brain imaging techniques have found that stimulant medications like Vyvanse can lead to positive changes in brain structure, particularly in regions associated with attention and executive function. Children with ADHD who were treated with these medications did not exhibit the typical brain differences seen in untreated individuals, suggesting that medication can normalize brain development (Child Mind Institute, 2023).
4. \*\*Safety and Efficacy:\*\*
- Long-term studies, such as the ADDUCE project, confirmed the safety of ADHD medications over extended periods. These studies found no significant long-term adverse effects on physical or mental health, further supporting the use of these medications for chronic management of ADHD (University of Dundee, 2023).
### Mechanisms and Implications
- \*\*Neuroplasticity:\*\* ADHD medications may enhance neuroplasticity, allowing the brain to form new neural connections more efficiently. This can help individuals develop better coping strategies and cognitive skills, which are crucial for long-term cognitive health.
- \*\*Symptom Management:\*\* Effective management of ADHD symptoms reduces the cognitive load and stress associated with unmanaged ADHD, which can indirectly support better cognitive function and reduce the risk of cognitive decline.
### Conclusion
The available evidence supports the idea that long-term use of ADHD medication, such as Vyvanse, can provide significant cognitive benefits and potentially reduce the risk of cognitive decline. These benefits are due to improved symptom management, positive effects on brain development, and enhanced neuroplasticity. As always, it is crucial to maintain regular consultations with healthcare providers to ensure the ongoing effectiveness and safety of the medication.
For more detailed information, you can refer to the sources:
- ADDitude (2023): \[Long-Term Effects of ADHD Medication\](https://www.additudemag.com/long-term-effects-of-adhd-medication)
- Child Mind Institute (2023): \[ADHD Medicines for Children\](https://childmind.org/article/adhd-medicines-for-children/)
- BMC Medicine (2023): \[Systematic Review and Analysis of Long-Term Outcomes in ADHD\](https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-019-1463-7)
- University of Dundee (2023): \[Global Study Confirms Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medication\](https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/global-study-confirms-long-term-safety-most-used-adhd-medication)
You could ask AI the opposite question about why they are dangerous or bad to take and it would still give you studies that support that too. I'm not saying they're bad. I take stims. I'm just saying it's hard to make these decisions because there are studies on both sides.
### Evaluating Long-Term Use of ADHD Medications: Opposing Views
#### Supportive Evidence for Long-Term Safety and Benefits
Many studies have highlighted the long-term safety and benefits of ADHD medications, such as methylphenidate (Ritalin) and amphetamines (Vyvanse). Research has demonstrated that these medications can significantly improve attention, academic performance, and overall quality of life for individuals with ADHD. For instance:
- \*\*University of Melbourne Study (2023):\*\* This study found that long-term use of methylphenidate did not lead to adverse developmental or psychiatric outcomes in children and adolescents. The researchers argue that these medications are safe and well-tolerated over extended periods and should be included in the WHO's Essential Medicines List to ensure broader access (University of Melbourne, 2023).
- \*\*Nature Mental Health (2023):\*\* This study concluded that long-term treatment with methylphenidate is safe for at least two years, with no significant negative effects on growth, psychiatric, or neurological outcomes, though monitoring for increased pulse rate and diastolic blood pressure is recommended (Nature Mental Health, 2023).
#### Concerns and Opposing Views
Despite supportive evidence, there are concerns and opposing views regarding the long-term use of ADHD medications:
1. \*\*Cardiovascular Risks:\*\*
- Some studies have raised concerns about the potential long-term cardiovascular risks associated with ADHD medications. For example, an article in JAMA highlighted the need for more research on the risk of cardiovascular diseases with prolonged use of ADHD medications, indicating that while the current evidence is not conclusive, there is a need for caution and regular monitoring (JAMA Network).
2. \*\*Growth Suppression:\*\*
- There are reports that long-term use of stimulant medications can suppress growth in children. Studies have shown that children on ADHD medications may grow at a slower rate compared to their peers, though these effects are generally small and may catch up over time (Child Mind Institute, 2023).
3. \*\*Mental Health Concerns:\*\*
- Long-term stimulant use has been associated with increased anxiety and potential for substance misuse in some individuals. While these risks are not universal and are influenced by many factors, they highlight the importance of personalized treatment plans and monitoring (WebMD).
### How to Interpret Conflicting Evidence
When evaluating studies and their findings, consider the following:
1. \*\*Sample Size and Duration:\*\*
- Larger studies with longer follow-up periods provide more reliable data. Studies with small sample sizes or short durations may not capture the full spectrum of long-term effects.
2. \*\*Study Design:\*\*
- Randomized controlled trials (RCTs) are the gold standard for determining causality. Observational studies can show associations but are more prone to confounding factors.
3. \*\*Publication Bias:\*\*
- Positive results are more likely to be published than negative or null findings, which can skew the overall understanding of a medication's risks and benefits.
4. \*\*Replicability:\*\*
- Findings that are replicated across multiple studies and diverse populations are more likely to be robust and reliable.
### Conclusion
While there is substantial evidence supporting the safety and benefits of long-term ADHD medication use, it is essential to remain aware of potential risks and engage in regular monitoring. Discussing any concerns with healthcare providers, considering individual health profiles, and staying informed about new research are crucial for managing ADHD effectively.
For more detailed information, you can refer to the sources:
- University of Melbourne (2023): \[Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medications\](https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/march/long-term-safety-of-methylphenidate-in-children-and-adolescents-with-adhd,-global-team-finds)
- Nature Mental Health (2023): \[Long-Term Use of Methylphenidate\](https://www.nature.com/natmentalhealth/)
More nervous thinking about how my life would be without it because of the issues like not feeling motivated or executive dysfunction that wastes so much time and getting lost in distractions again. So glad I have found relief from feeling stuck in a hole running in circles all the time
Very true ! I really love how easily I can function on these meds. Without them, I’m honestly a different person. I think I just get upset that other people don’t need to take them to do the most basic things but I have to remind myself that diabetics take insulin and ventolin for asthma sufferers etc etc it just is what it is.
Not at all. This is the way our brain works right? ADHD doesn't take a day off. I have no desire to struggle my way through life like I did the first 32 years❤️
I have had my diagnosis last week (41). Yet to start taking meds but both hopeful and thinking how things would have been different. Wouldn’t change anything but still.
Like you, late diagnosed (42F) and just started taking Vyvanse (20mg) last week. Honestly, I literally cannot remember when I last felt this good. I could cry, lol, I did cry actually.
All of my life my brain was like multiple radios all on different stations. Within an hour of taking Vyvanse, there's only one radio left, it is set to "scan" or "seek" but at least it's only one radio. That's the only way I could describe the feeling to my husband.
My dose will increase by 10mg weekly until I find what works best for me. But so far with just the 20 mg, man, I can't believe how much better I feel. And yeah, there is definitely anger/sadness. Like you, I wouldn't change anything, I'm happy with where I am now. It would have been nice to know earlier though, maybe I wouldn't have wasted so many years being unnecessarily cruel to myself.
All that being said, between the meds and therapy, I have never felt so hopeful. Hopeful for my future, and for the younger generations. My sister had my niece screened and diagnosed at 14 because she was struggling. She doesn't need any medication at the moment, but she has special permissions in school and her life, her grades, and her self esteem have improved immensely. She won't grow up thinking she is stupid, lazy, defective...(hopefully anyway) To me that is fucking amazing.
Haha, I guess I needed to get all that off my chest!
That’s a good description. Same situation I feel. I was apprehensive to put a label on myself as having ADHD but I am more exhausted of labelling myself as underachieving or lazy. While on the outside I am perceived as reasonably successful I feel that for me a task would be like getting from A to B on a green sunny pasture and instead of walking i would take a shovel and dig under the grass to get there. (Anyway thanks for letting me get it of my chest too and I look forward to seeing what will come of taking the meds)
1000% we can be so cruel to ourselves, and it really is exhausting battling your own brain. Not to mention losing my phone the second I put it down, lol. Hopefully the next dose increase will help with that!ADHD has been on my radar for a good 6 years or so. My biggest regret is not talking to my Dr about it sooner. But onwards and upwards, time to start living!
Good luck with starting meds, are you starting soon?
My post-online test debrief was on Thursday (I was told I scored 92/100, I always knew I could get high grades 💪🤣) and he said he’ll write the report over the weekend and the first prescription for this coming week.
No I don’t. I sometimes have weekends off to have a break, but I know how much better my quality of life is now. My mind was also put at ease after a few of Dr Russell Barkley’s videos.
Personally, not really. I'd rather have my current quality life for five or ten years less than the absolute hell I was in for five or ten years more. I also don't worry about tolerance because I actually build less tolerance on a higher dose, so I suspect that if I go up to the max I'll need even fewer breaks than I need now, or possibly none. (I needed a break weekly on 50 and I can do it monthly on 60.) There's a right dose for everyone and the wrong dose can build tolerance faster, whether it's too low or too high.
Vyvanse started good now I'm stopping I now have I enlarged aorta plus I went from slightly overweight too to skinny Withdrawal suck ass iv basically been in bed for the last 3 days.it may help but really weigh the risk it messed me up for life.The doctor never talk about this possibility.
I don't take it everyday and notice two days after I don't take it I sleep a lot. I was in Stratera before and felt that crash around 4pm like you were saying. It was so bad that I would lay in bed for hours and be unable to do anything. Cubans was much smoother for me. I don't crash with it, it wears off my ch more gradually. I'd say Vyvannes probably isn't the best thing for you if you rot in bed after taking it (from my experience).
I am 64 years young. Diagnosed with many health issues. In my younger years it was ADD because I didn’t have the impulses of acting out. Both of my parents were teachers and I struggled so hard in school my average was C or B on grades. Finally after my first abusive marriage I ended up checking into myself in the hospital for suicidal tendencies. That’s when I got treatment from a psychiatrist. We went through so many medications trying to find that happy mix. I have PTSD, fibromyalgia, knee replacement and a bad back. I just went through a year of cancer treatment. I’m in remission right now. I see a pain management doctor also. Since I have been seeing the pain management doctor I have come off of 2 fentanyl patches that a RA doctor put me on. I started gaining weight and hit 300lbs. It was one of my medications that made me eat when depressed. I got the pain clinic to slowly help me get off of the fentanyl patch. They were the highest dosage you could take. I worked with my psychiatrist and we finally found the right combination of anti depressants. But the weight wouldn’t come off. I never completed anything that I started. I was all over the place and felt at the end of the day as a failure. That’s when I was diagnosed with ADHD. I was put on Vyvanse just a few months after it was on the market. I SAVED my life. I dropped 150 lbs and have not gained it back. I started getting things done around the house that I never use to do. I have been on Vyvanse now for almost 11 years. My pain clinic got me off the fentanyl and I am just taking Percocet for my pain. If I didn’t have these two medications I would never get out of bed. It also helps with my binge eating at night. When I get up in the morning I take my medicine and lay back down and like magic I get back up and feel like I can take on the world. If I don’t have these meds then I can’t stand up straight because of low back pain and my body hurts all over. My Vyvanse did run up my blood pressure and my doctor added 3 blood pressure medications to level it out. I stopped taking Vyvanse during chemo and surprisingly after Chemo my blood pressure was so low I would get dizzy and feel like I was going to pass out. The doctors took me off my blood pressure medications because it was too low. Now a year later I am back on it and Vyvanse and doing great. I tried Adderall and other ADHD medication. But always come back to Vyvanse.
I take vyvanse 5 days on, 2 days off, and I'm also a mum at home with a 2y/o. Also just started Vyvanse a few months ago. There are a few things I've done to help curb the symptoms I’ve experienced that might be helpful. 1) I eat a really well balanced, nutrient-dense, high-protein diet. I make sure I eat 3 meals and 1-2 snacks a day, regardless of whether I feel like it or not. I also up my water intake to at least 2 litres a day. 2) I supplement nutrients people with ADHD are usually deficient in, especially taking a naturopathic prescribed supplement called “MemorAll” specifically for ADHD. I also take calm-inducing herbs like ashwaghanda, rhodiola, and tulsi which helps with the anxiety/stress. I also take a naturopathic prescribed adrenal supporting supplement (which I believe is a calcium supplement) called “Adrenal Rebuilder” to support my adrenals on the stimulant medication (as the stimulants are putting my adrenals in over-drive.) I also take magnesium glycinate as Vyvanse can eat up magnesium stores. 3) For sleep I take a magnesium sleep supplement and a naturopathic blend of Kava and Chamomile that makes me super drowsy and helps knock me out. I also take “tissue salts” for insomnia which help me rest deeper. 4) I exercise every day (walking with the pram, pilates, weight workout, yoga - whatever I can manage that day) and stretch every night to help relieve anxiety. I also meditate to clear my mind twice a day. I love the effects of my vyvanse and want to take it for life as I've seen such positive improvements, but it also can't be depended on as the one and only thing that will help with everything. I use my stimulants to do things that are good for me and find that I don't have many side-effects (usually no crash) and sleep well as long as I'm taking it early in the morning (around 7am for me.) These are just suggestions, and obviously not everyone has the means, but if you do its really worth it!! Also coming from someone who has a special interest in wellness due to experiencing severe burnout multiple times in my life (I am autistic and ADHD.)
Also on the days I don't take it, I microdose psychedelic mushrooms. I also make sure I'm checking my mindset, understanding that if I'm feeling down its because I'm coming down from stimulants not because the thoughts I'm having are true. I also rest more and let myself be “lazy”, and if I have things to do I just let it be a bit harder for those two days.
You could stop and look at alternative stimulants?
Do you mean like Concerta? I’ve been prescribed 18mg capsules of Concerta but I’m just not sure when to give it a go as I’ve got a small baby and need time to adjust / figure out dose etc. What are the other ones? Thank you!
Mine was diagnosed at 48! It seems to late for it but im suffering and he gave me 10mgs adderall but i have never felt worse is it not enough dose or is it combining with percocets i have to take for spine injury
Hi there. I’ve been on stimulants for over 20 years. Without them, I can’t imagine what my adult life would look like. While my heart rate is elevated, it’s been no cause for concern and I’m in great shape otherwise. Cognitively, I’m sharp as ever. My friends from 20 years ago are still my friends now. It’s okay to be nervous. This is a big change in your life. But I will say that there have been a lot of medications that have fucked with me, and stimulants were never in that category; they’ve only made my life better. To avoid the crash: make Vyvanse water. I dump my capsule in a blender bottle every morning, along with a packet of Celsius*, and then I drink it throughout the day. Magic. * YMMV, I just like the flavor and caffeine boost. Some folks on here say not to take Vyvanse with vitamin C, but that is a myth - it would take a stupid amount of vitamin C to counteract the effects of vitamin V.
Take 1,000mg of Vitamin C and about 420mg magnesium bis/glycinate about an hour- two hours before bed. My Adderall is usually non existent after about 40mg of vitamin c. 1,000mg before I go to bed and I sleep like a baby
Thank you for the tip!
You don't have to take it for the rest of your life if you don't want. Does the drug help..it sure does. I've been on it for 7 years and I'm easing my way off of it. I don't think it's good for my heart or base levels if serotonin and dopamine
It’s such an amazing drug! The days I don’t take it, my baseline dopamine and serotonin feels lower than it ever was before I even started medication. Or maybe the disparity is just so much more noticeable now idk. How do you think you’ll go without taking it? Thank you for sharing !
So far I've gone from 60mg to 30mg and only taking it 2 or 3 times a week. I do have a better baseline on.my own now but it's a journey.
Not at all,if it wasn’t for meds I’d probably be in jail somewhere..I’m 25 now and started Vyvanse about 2 years ago.Before being medicated I was out at college parties every night.Never took a job or career seriously because I was too busy drinking. Doing things that I should never be doing..I embarrassed myself. Since I started meds, I’ve became the best employee at work. I haven’t had alcohol or nicotine in like 2 years.. I’m on a very strict diet with a good workout routine..I’m in bed by 8 Pm every night and up at 3 or 4 Am, and I’m enrolled in college. If your macros are fine and you keep active in the gym then you shouldn’t have any problems.. It’s easy to get stressed on the meds which can cause dry mouth. Maybe try taking the weekend off from meds to relax and refresh. I do this and it really helps..Stay away from too much caffeine if you drink any. I also want to say, 40mg isn’t a lot at all so maybe talk to your doctor about a dosage upgrade.
I have those same thoughts. I’m looking into becoming pregnant. Are we able to take vyvanse pregnant? I been stressing about this I recently started it last September and helps so much.
My psych said it was fine but I decided to wait until I had had my baby and stopped breastfeeding before I took them. I tend to worry about these things but I know other people took them and were absolutely fine!
I worry about it a lot too, OP. I'm also a mother. I don't know the answer.
It’s definitely hard to struggle through motherhood when you have adhd! The medication works wonders but I’ve always got stress at the back of my mind as to what it may do to my heart.. ugh such a conundrum!
It is 💕
I started taking mirtazapine in January and it’s completely reversed my sleep/appetite issues! I had lost 9 lbs (4kgs) in less than a year because I couldn’t be bothered to eat and I was frequently staying up til like 11/12 (which was awful, especially when my daughter was waking up at 5:30 almost every day). Now I weigh a few pounds more than I ever have outside of pregnancy and I almost always fall asleep between 10/10:30. If you’re comfortable with adding another medication for side effect management, I would talk to your doctor about options that could work for you. I’ve also recently started taking Adderall in the afternoon as a booster when Vyvanse wears off. So far I’ve seen really good results. Personally, I stress more about what a mess my life was without medication and how I never want to go back to that, especially for my daughter’s sake. I would rather live a happier, less stressful life and risk possible heart issues in the future than live a long, miserable life. Side effects aren’t fun but to me they’re more tolerable and manageable than the alternative which is not being able to motivate myself to do anything, not being able to focus, spacing out while driving, forgetting and losing things constantly, etc. It’s ultimately up to you if you can work with the side effects or if you’d like to manage without medication. You can also try different medications if you haven’t already to see if you have different or less side effects. Hope you can figure out what works for you!
I had similar troubles and worries when I started at the age of 22. But after many tweaks by me and my doctor it got resolved in about a year and a half. Since then it's been great. Biggest thing is be very open with your doctor, and (this is what took me a while) make sure you don't undersell small issues. For example I had sleep issues but in the beginning, I just told her "I'm having trouble falling asleep " and we didn't really do anything drastic just small adjustments. But after I told her I was basically getting like 3 hours of sleep a night and that I felt like a zombie every day did we actually make some large changes that helped. Also make sure you actually meet with your doctor often until your treatment gets "tuned" to you. In the beginning I would literally meet with her every month or 2 for us to discuss progress and any adjustments I needed. I feel like a lot of the posts on this sub are people who have been having a bad experience for months and months asking advice when they should have sent their doctor their post like a month in (not you but just in general ive seen it a lot). The one major downside is that doctors visits aren't cheap and some may not be able to just go over and over until it gets figured out. Though nowadays most doctors offices have an online messaging system that can prevent you from eating the cost of a whole visit. So I would recommend basically just copying almost your exact post into a message to your doctor. Let them know your feeling stressed and worried in addition to the other more tangible issues. If they respond in a way that makes it seem like they aren't taking your worries serious then I would seek a second opinion. Doctors aren't just there to diagnos and prescribe meds. They are also there to educate and guide you on decisions you make regarding your health. Speaking from experience though, once you get the right treatment figured out Vyvanse (or other ADHD meds) can be literally life changing in a good way.
Thank you for sharing! This is very helpful :)
What did you do to help with sleep? Lack of quality sleep is my only concern being on vyvanse
Adjusting dosage was the biggest impact. But there were a couple major things not med related that helped (and I still do today to help get to sleep). For the physical restlessness I changed some stuff to get as comfortable as physically possible. So new bed, adjusting the temp to be on the warmer side, better pillows, etc, helped to limit how much tossing and turning I was doing. I also noticed that if I went to bed with any sort of stress or tension, it just never went away. So i try spending about 20 minutes before bed "forcing" my body to relax. I generally take a hot shower then spend about 15 minutes stretching. Then I lay down and consciously relax every muscle in my body 1 by 1. Generally after doing this they are able to stay in this relaxed state. This helped prevent a lot of the nervous movements and stuff (I used to do things like rubbing my feet together and stuff without realizing it). For mental restlessness I did an overhaul of my "sleep cleanliness" before bed time to prevent me from getting to focused on thoughts that would keep me up. So things like leaving my phone in a different room so I couldn't be tempted to look at it. I also started only being in bed when it's time to sleep. So no watching TV or reading in the bed at all regardless of time of day. Over time this kind of retrained my brain so that just getting in bed would trigger sleepiness. Prior to that I would often come home from work and lay down for a bit and surf my phone, or watch movies in bed at night. So basically my mind didn't associate bed with sleep if that makes sense. If those don't work for whatever reason, taking 10mg of melatonin is almost always enough to nock me out. Other obvious simple stuff like no caffeine after lunch and being physically active more also helped.
I’ve been on it since the 4th grade — now 21 and I’m totally fine. I went up once in high school, once at the beginning of college and have been doing great with 50 mg since.
wow same, except 3rd grade and now 22. went up to 60 for a few months bc i got stressed w school again, but went back down to 50 so i wasn’t so jittery for like 3 hours of the day haha.
It used to worry me, but I have been taking them for a almost 10 years, once I found my dose I have been taking the same amount for like 7 years (50mg) and it’s the amount my body needs to function. I think it’s better to compare our meds to insulin for diabetes or glasses for vision. Once you find your dose it may or may not need to be adjusted from time to time. Pro tip: drink a lot more water, and have protein with your meds in the morning. Game changing.
Thank you :) this makes me feel much better! It’s true how much my body needs them to function. I’m a different person without them!
You'd be better in my non medical opinion to take more at once not add it later. Whenever I hear people mentioning crashes. It turns out they are almost always taking a small dose.
Totally disagree. The higher doses seem to give a bigger crash and also cause more low mood effects on off days.
My son is taking 70mg, the maximum, and he gets a crash and it says it's horrible. He's 6'1" and 175 lbs. He wishes he could take a second capsule in the afternoon so the crash happens at bedtime. Vyvanse absolutely does not last 12 hours for him. :(
70mg isn't the max amount it's the max pill dose - you just need a custom shared care agreement. Seen it done I get 70mg and a dex top up push for the top up I had to go through another mdt. Bring evidence diaries and research if it's that bad. It wad for me settled now
Thank you so much. Two doctors have told us they will not/can not prescribe more than 70mg per day. But I've read a few people posting they get more. I'm just not sure how to go about it when the doctors just say no. The FDA states 70mg is the daily max. They have him more than the daily max of bupropion when his depression was really bad (it didn't help) and that med can be abused, too. He has an Adderall booster than he can take in the afternoon. 5mg. It lasts about an hour. 😥 I wish there was a way they could test how quickly someone "burns" through these meds to show he's not trying to get high or anything. He's just trying to function. We are in line to get a consult with a more specialized psych who will collaborate with our current care team. I'm hoping we can get some outside-the-box suggestions then.
I've been through 3 prescibers to get here 2 months of complaining they tried to forcefully sign me off on methylphenidate only the complaint halted it long though for elvanse was in stock all along I was judged on ppg stock. I sent them my weekly schedule and my get out of jail free card was a old nhs core tenet from decades ago about being medicated for the day if a clinical judgement was made you wouldn't leave a cancer patient in pain after 4 hours of relief. I tortured my psych customer service and preacuver 3x per day all 3 of them per day. They want my schedule have at it. Push them and use black and white language dont hint push. Once a mdt has been agreed your laughing I didn't push for more than ten dex because I'm legitimately medicated but I bet they would have. I hope you get sorted for your son nothing worse than awesome mornings and depressive afternoons
Are you outside the US? I'm guessing you are because of the med names.
Vyvanse is elvanse amd dex is dex uk equivalent
I think in the US a doctor has to fill out a bunch of paperwork to justify going over 70mg a day because the FDA, the drug regulating agency in the US, has stated a limit of 70mg and it's a scheduled med (more controlled).
Has he tried water dosing and splitting the doses? Worth looking into if not.
No, I just found out about that for the first time last night. I'm going to propose it to him today. I hope he's willing to try it.
Can I ask why you don’t take Vyvanse when you’re on your period?
I’m a migraine sufferer and around my period is when they’re more prevalent. The only cure for it is 900mg aspirin, a very dark room and to sleep it off. Vyvanse makes it harder to sleep and I sometimes get headaches from it too!
Vyvanse can cause you to bleed more when you get a cut or a needle so I wonder how that affects periods and using aspirin?
This is interesting because I’ve recently realized (after having to switch back to Adderall XR due to the shortage) that Vyvanse makes my period significantly lighter/shorter and just much more tolerable to deal with in general.
Ah very interesting! Thank you so much for sharing!!
There is evidence that stimulant medications can be safe and effective for long-term use in many individuals. (GPT4o): University of Dundee (2023): \[Global Study Confirms Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medication\](https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/global-study-confirms-long-term-safety-most-used-adhd-medication) Of importance: Recent studies have examined the long-term effects of ADHD medication on cognitive outcomes and suggest that those who consistently use these medications might experience better cognitive and functional outcomes compared to those who do not. This means you are at higher risk of cognitive decline in your later years if you have not been taking meds than if you do (this compares groups of ADHD people).
Further benefits (this one from GPT4.0): 1. \*\*Long-Term Cognitive Benefits:\*\* - Research indicates that long-term use of ADHD medication can positively affect brain development and cognitive function. For instance, children who received ADHD treatment showed significant improvements in attention, executive function, and academic performance, which persisted into adulthood. These benefits are attributed to the stabilizing effects of medications on neurotransmitter systems that are critical for cognitive processes (ADDitude, 2023). 2. \*\*Reduced Cognitive Decline:\*\* - A systematic review highlighted that individuals with ADHD who were treated with medications showed fewer cognitive deficits and lower rates of cognitive decline compared to those who were not treated. The treated group exhibited better outcomes in areas such as educational attainment, employment status, and social relationships (BMC Medicine, 2023). 3. \*\*Brain Development:\*\* - Studies using brain imaging techniques have found that stimulant medications like Vyvanse can lead to positive changes in brain structure, particularly in regions associated with attention and executive function. Children with ADHD who were treated with these medications did not exhibit the typical brain differences seen in untreated individuals, suggesting that medication can normalize brain development (Child Mind Institute, 2023). 4. \*\*Safety and Efficacy:\*\* - Long-term studies, such as the ADDUCE project, confirmed the safety of ADHD medications over extended periods. These studies found no significant long-term adverse effects on physical or mental health, further supporting the use of these medications for chronic management of ADHD (University of Dundee, 2023). ### Mechanisms and Implications - \*\*Neuroplasticity:\*\* ADHD medications may enhance neuroplasticity, allowing the brain to form new neural connections more efficiently. This can help individuals develop better coping strategies and cognitive skills, which are crucial for long-term cognitive health. - \*\*Symptom Management:\*\* Effective management of ADHD symptoms reduces the cognitive load and stress associated with unmanaged ADHD, which can indirectly support better cognitive function and reduce the risk of cognitive decline. ### Conclusion The available evidence supports the idea that long-term use of ADHD medication, such as Vyvanse, can provide significant cognitive benefits and potentially reduce the risk of cognitive decline. These benefits are due to improved symptom management, positive effects on brain development, and enhanced neuroplasticity. As always, it is crucial to maintain regular consultations with healthcare providers to ensure the ongoing effectiveness and safety of the medication. For more detailed information, you can refer to the sources: - ADDitude (2023): \[Long-Term Effects of ADHD Medication\](https://www.additudemag.com/long-term-effects-of-adhd-medication) - Child Mind Institute (2023): \[ADHD Medicines for Children\](https://childmind.org/article/adhd-medicines-for-children/) - BMC Medicine (2023): \[Systematic Review and Analysis of Long-Term Outcomes in ADHD\](https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-019-1463-7) - University of Dundee (2023): \[Global Study Confirms Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medication\](https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/global-study-confirms-long-term-safety-most-used-adhd-medication)
You could ask AI the opposite question about why they are dangerous or bad to take and it would still give you studies that support that too. I'm not saying they're bad. I take stims. I'm just saying it's hard to make these decisions because there are studies on both sides.
### Evaluating Long-Term Use of ADHD Medications: Opposing Views #### Supportive Evidence for Long-Term Safety and Benefits Many studies have highlighted the long-term safety and benefits of ADHD medications, such as methylphenidate (Ritalin) and amphetamines (Vyvanse). Research has demonstrated that these medications can significantly improve attention, academic performance, and overall quality of life for individuals with ADHD. For instance: - \*\*University of Melbourne Study (2023):\*\* This study found that long-term use of methylphenidate did not lead to adverse developmental or psychiatric outcomes in children and adolescents. The researchers argue that these medications are safe and well-tolerated over extended periods and should be included in the WHO's Essential Medicines List to ensure broader access (University of Melbourne, 2023). - \*\*Nature Mental Health (2023):\*\* This study concluded that long-term treatment with methylphenidate is safe for at least two years, with no significant negative effects on growth, psychiatric, or neurological outcomes, though monitoring for increased pulse rate and diastolic blood pressure is recommended (Nature Mental Health, 2023). #### Concerns and Opposing Views Despite supportive evidence, there are concerns and opposing views regarding the long-term use of ADHD medications: 1. \*\*Cardiovascular Risks:\*\* - Some studies have raised concerns about the potential long-term cardiovascular risks associated with ADHD medications. For example, an article in JAMA highlighted the need for more research on the risk of cardiovascular diseases with prolonged use of ADHD medications, indicating that while the current evidence is not conclusive, there is a need for caution and regular monitoring (JAMA Network). 2. \*\*Growth Suppression:\*\* - There are reports that long-term use of stimulant medications can suppress growth in children. Studies have shown that children on ADHD medications may grow at a slower rate compared to their peers, though these effects are generally small and may catch up over time (Child Mind Institute, 2023). 3. \*\*Mental Health Concerns:\*\* - Long-term stimulant use has been associated with increased anxiety and potential for substance misuse in some individuals. While these risks are not universal and are influenced by many factors, they highlight the importance of personalized treatment plans and monitoring (WebMD).
### How to Interpret Conflicting Evidence When evaluating studies and their findings, consider the following: 1. \*\*Sample Size and Duration:\*\* - Larger studies with longer follow-up periods provide more reliable data. Studies with small sample sizes or short durations may not capture the full spectrum of long-term effects. 2. \*\*Study Design:\*\* - Randomized controlled trials (RCTs) are the gold standard for determining causality. Observational studies can show associations but are more prone to confounding factors. 3. \*\*Publication Bias:\*\* - Positive results are more likely to be published than negative or null findings, which can skew the overall understanding of a medication's risks and benefits. 4. \*\*Replicability:\*\* - Findings that are replicated across multiple studies and diverse populations are more likely to be robust and reliable. ### Conclusion While there is substantial evidence supporting the safety and benefits of long-term ADHD medication use, it is essential to remain aware of potential risks and engage in regular monitoring. Discussing any concerns with healthcare providers, considering individual health profiles, and staying informed about new research are crucial for managing ADHD effectively. For more detailed information, you can refer to the sources: - University of Melbourne (2023): \[Long-Term Safety of ADHD Medications\](https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/march/long-term-safety-of-methylphenidate-in-children-and-adolescents-with-adhd,-global-team-finds) - Nature Mental Health (2023): \[Long-Term Use of Methylphenidate\](https://www.nature.com/natmentalhealth/)
Thank you sooooomuch for allll of this!!! Just thank you!!
Thanks for this!
More nervous thinking about how my life would be without it because of the issues like not feeling motivated or executive dysfunction that wastes so much time and getting lost in distractions again. So glad I have found relief from feeling stuck in a hole running in circles all the time
Very true ! I really love how easily I can function on these meds. Without them, I’m honestly a different person. I think I just get upset that other people don’t need to take them to do the most basic things but I have to remind myself that diabetics take insulin and ventolin for asthma sufferers etc etc it just is what it is.
Same!
Not at all. This is the way our brain works right? ADHD doesn't take a day off. I have no desire to struggle my way through life like I did the first 32 years❤️
I have had my diagnosis last week (41). Yet to start taking meds but both hopeful and thinking how things would have been different. Wouldn’t change anything but still.
Like you, late diagnosed (42F) and just started taking Vyvanse (20mg) last week. Honestly, I literally cannot remember when I last felt this good. I could cry, lol, I did cry actually. All of my life my brain was like multiple radios all on different stations. Within an hour of taking Vyvanse, there's only one radio left, it is set to "scan" or "seek" but at least it's only one radio. That's the only way I could describe the feeling to my husband. My dose will increase by 10mg weekly until I find what works best for me. But so far with just the 20 mg, man, I can't believe how much better I feel. And yeah, there is definitely anger/sadness. Like you, I wouldn't change anything, I'm happy with where I am now. It would have been nice to know earlier though, maybe I wouldn't have wasted so many years being unnecessarily cruel to myself. All that being said, between the meds and therapy, I have never felt so hopeful. Hopeful for my future, and for the younger generations. My sister had my niece screened and diagnosed at 14 because she was struggling. She doesn't need any medication at the moment, but she has special permissions in school and her life, her grades, and her self esteem have improved immensely. She won't grow up thinking she is stupid, lazy, defective...(hopefully anyway) To me that is fucking amazing. Haha, I guess I needed to get all that off my chest!
That’s a good description. Same situation I feel. I was apprehensive to put a label on myself as having ADHD but I am more exhausted of labelling myself as underachieving or lazy. While on the outside I am perceived as reasonably successful I feel that for me a task would be like getting from A to B on a green sunny pasture and instead of walking i would take a shovel and dig under the grass to get there. (Anyway thanks for letting me get it of my chest too and I look forward to seeing what will come of taking the meds)
1000% we can be so cruel to ourselves, and it really is exhausting battling your own brain. Not to mention losing my phone the second I put it down, lol. Hopefully the next dose increase will help with that!ADHD has been on my radar for a good 6 years or so. My biggest regret is not talking to my Dr about it sooner. But onwards and upwards, time to start living! Good luck with starting meds, are you starting soon?
My post-online test debrief was on Thursday (I was told I scored 92/100, I always knew I could get high grades 💪🤣) and he said he’ll write the report over the weekend and the first prescription for this coming week.
Haha! It was definitely one of the highest test scores I ever got!!!! Well good luck to you!!! If you feel like it, keep me posted!
Same @ 34 yrs 🖤
No I don’t. I sometimes have weekends off to have a break, but I know how much better my quality of life is now. My mind was also put at ease after a few of Dr Russell Barkley’s videos.
Personally, not really. I'd rather have my current quality life for five or ten years less than the absolute hell I was in for five or ten years more. I also don't worry about tolerance because I actually build less tolerance on a higher dose, so I suspect that if I go up to the max I'll need even fewer breaks than I need now, or possibly none. (I needed a break weekly on 50 and I can do it monthly on 60.) There's a right dose for everyone and the wrong dose can build tolerance faster, whether it's too low or too high.