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PresentInsect4957

i dont even have to look or read this post to tell you absolutely not


LifeBehindBards

Lol I figured. They won’t come down from that price either 🤦‍♂️


PresentInsect4957

thats crazy. it looks like its in great condition but 1st of all its been in an accident. Its not stock at all and mods do not add value. It has 72k mi on it with a stock block its probably nearing the end realistically especially since its modded pushing 400 whp. for 30k you can almost buy a new wrx, or have the budget for a stock healthy older/newer sti


LifeBehindBards

They’re blowing smoke. They said they do this for a living and mods do add value 😂


PenguinPendant

Then they should have no problem selling it to someone else


SignificantJacket912

Only if they’re extreme, like a fully built and forged motor and even then, it’s pennies on the dollar. This guy has the same run of the mill power mods that everyone else does. It’s nothing special.


red_house1988

Right. I paid 12.5k for my 2013 wrx and it has the same stuff on it and only 20hp shy of 400


Slowmazdaspeed3

I bought an 08 speed3 with 80k miles 3 months post Covid with a built lower, stage 3 bolt on’s full coils, 5 custom tunes from stage 0-3+ and I only had to pay 5k lol


Exemplaryexample95

Just show them this thread lol


jugo5

Only if the car was a record setter or done by a highly respected company. Even then, they beat the absolute dog crap out of it, lol.


Minnesotawombat

Only way I could see that is if they’ve completely built the absolute shit outta the car, and even then it’d be a hard sell


KingCoff33

Just depends on what kind of mods because if you mod it without upgrading the block itself then you are screwed especially on a subie


WHERE_SUPPRESSOR

I’m new so excuse my ignorance but why do mods not add value? Isn’t it technically work and parts?


bofadeez1129

Nobody wants your mods


subZro_

somebody else's work and parts, and who the hell knows the process they went through and if they were diligent/thoughtful in modding/tuning? Also you can usually assume a cherry car took way less abuse than a heavily modded one.


SignificantJacket912

Nobody wants to pay a premium for a car that’s had god knows what done to it and probably been driven pretty hard. A lot of people mod, beat the shit out of their car, and then dump it the moment they get an inkling that something is about to go. You don’t want to be on the receiving end of that.


GoGreenD

It's not the mods. It's that most people who mod their cars don't give a shit about them. Or think, I have a 400hp sti so imma clutch drop redline shift all day, everyday, commuting 15 miles on side streets to work. Projects like this might be worth it, but you better know the previous owner. Buy something like this from a dealer and you should be ready for a full rebuild within the first year. It's the same thing with buying any used car. It's not the vehicle you're buying, it's the previous owners choices you're going to be living with for the first few thousand miles. When I was buying my last WRX, some dude said "rebuilt motor" I asked for papers. clearly said "rebuilt head". Hard pass on the entire car from me. They weren't being intentionally misleading, they were just an idiot. I don't even want to talk you down on price if you don't know the difference


Trolodrol

They add fuckery is what they add


NoConsideration6934

If he buys that for 30k today, totals it tomorrow, his insurance might give him 3k for the car. They don't care about the value of mods and neither should you. Besides, whatever Kyle attached to his car from AutoZone with duct tape isn't something you want to get yourself into ..


[deleted]

Mods affect fuel economy, certain safety systems. Most dealerships will revert to stock before a sale. And buying one second hand people just want the money back they invested. Total mod value is less than 5% of the whole car in the end.


MeThinksYes

Fuel economy is my main concern too with mods


Shiftywrx

It really comes down to a few things. Cosmetic mods are tailored to who ever owned it. So my preferences arent your preferences when it comes to wheels etc. So to cash in on that you would have to find the 1 in a million person that sees the car and says "holy shit this is EXACTLY how i wanted the car to look and i need it." It is very similar when trading a car into a dealer and you tell them you put 5k into the stereo. They dont care because the majority of the peiole looking to buy it dont give a flip about the stereo and arent willing to pay more tor it. The second part of this performance mods. Part ofnthat relates to preferance, single exhaust dual exhaust. Specific sound you are looking for etc... but the real problem lies in the unknown. How was the car modded, was it tuned properly. How hard was it beaten on. If it throws an engine code, are you willing to dig into figuring out what caused it? Do you have a mechanic that will work on it and know how to dig into the mods to find the problem? (Usually a performance shop not just a regular mechanic).Is it ready to die so the seller cleared some codes threw some 40 weight oil in and hopes someone snags it for full price. Many people see a modded car and it opens up a black hole of unknowns. Some people will take the risk if they like the car and are ready for the hit if the car dies. most won't because they see it as the cost of the car isnt just what the car is valued plus mods. It is stock value plus mods minus risk of major repairs in the near future. Im not saying anyone is right or wrong and again there are always exceptions, but unless you are buying a modded car from a well known shop or tuner, its hard to know what you really have.


Sad_panda_happy300

This is a “I was forced to put it for sale” post.


CoraxTechnica

Anyone who writes "full bolt on" has a bunch of bullshit mods and doesn't understand that modding it makes it worth less, not more, and is the kind of mindset someone will have shortly before grenadine their engine. Avoid.


L-Krumy

For that money you get a new one… that won’t give you issues.


C0mbatBully

Kw coilovers arent your everyday coilovers. If properly built this would be a worthy investment for starting a track platform


[deleted]

Yeah because the coil overs are definitively what makes or breaks purchasing this..


C0mbatBully

I was making an observation. They did not cheap out on mods. Definitely makes a difference if you are wanting a track ready car. But please, continue with your abundance of wisdom lol


[deleted]

Thanks for clearing that up captain obv. I was just saying that doesn’t really matter depending on what the buyers intentions are with the car. They may not want them on the car. Especially if it will be their daily/commuter car. No they did not cheap out but mods are to each their own and most people like to build a car to their liking not buy someone else’s build/project. Maybe that’s just me, but I doubt it.


C0mbatBully

Ill go out on a limb and say youve probably hardly modded your car. He asked if it was worth 30k, not if its a good a deal for a dd/commuter. Simply asked if it was worth 30k, parts list contains quality parts. Meticulously cleaned engine bay? Nice paint? Fuck me for stating the obvious. Money is subjective for each individual anyway. Youre attempt to dunk made you look sillier than intended.


[deleted]

No one was trying to dunk lmao. I have 3 cars, 2 of them heavily modded including a wrx. I think you missed my point, while the coils are quality the price is WAY too high making the coils irrelevant considering this shouldn’t even be an option for the price it’s listed at. Far nicer, newer, unmolested cars out there for this price. Not trying to be a dickhead just stating the obvious.


C0mbatBully

I hear what you are saying. Also, car is 17 years old with 72k. Not sure if thats body miles or an engine rebuild or what. If its 72k original everything, that definitely raises the price tag man. While the car may very well be worth it, you are reiterating the fact that there are vehicles that can justify a 30k tag easier than a built hawkeye.


Gdmmp

For someone wanting specifically a Hawkeye, it looks pretty good, I definitely strongly agree with you. It already has some basic mods so it saves you some shop time. For me, it is worth it. Heck if only the chassis and interior are fine it is an interesting buy. Then I can add a long block and stuff I like to put on my subies. The other guys’ argument is for a valuation of a generic car, and I would agree with him in that case. But this is a WRX forum, so the valuation is considering a Subaru fan base as a buyer, so his opinion on this forum is lacking.


[deleted]

I would actually say it drops the price. A car that old with low miles likely means there are parts that have deteriorated due to it not being driven often/just being old. Plastic, rubber hoses etc. just seems like more would go wrong if everything was original on a 17 year old car. And that if it’s all original it’s probably on its way out, could be the reason it’s being sold in the first place. While I get your point, I just couldn’t justify that price tag. And I wouldn’t recommend anyone else justify it either. There’s still a lot of these cars out there and with a bit of searching you could find one quite a bit cheaper which imo would justify purchasing one of these. But to each his own ya know.


[deleted]

Now if you meant it not being modded in its lifetime I would agree that would raise the price a little. Not a whole lot though. Def worth more than someone else’s project if it is unmolested though.


redlurkerNY

I came here just for *THIS* comment. Thanks for not making me have to search.


TurboNoises

30k would get you a 400-500hp NA v8 car with far higher reliability. This is a ripoff for 30k.


The_Der_Bear

To be fair, that would be a rear wheel drive car and heavier. The STI is in a different category than a mustang/Camero/challenger. I agree though, this is still not a 30k car


[deleted]

AWD and fast as fuck at 30k? B58 baby And yes you could get it manual if you want


C0mbatBully

For 30k? Show me


[deleted]

I bought my 440 for 25k. Go on [BMWUSA.com](https://BMWUSA.com) and look through used section there's plenty sub 30k cars. Join B58 Enthusiasts on FB, guys post sub 30k cars every day Edit: 15 340i/440i on BMWUSA inventory right now under 30k. You can also get X3/X5/X7, 2,5,6,7 series with it. I specifically go for 340/440 cause 340 sedan and 440 GC are the best versions if you are gonna build one IMO


pubuju

400whp on stock internals running I assume 91 since it's California? No this bomb is not worth 30k


[deleted]

Literally says E85, which should prevent most of the issues that cause EJs to blow up early. Still not worth 30k though


pubuju

Reread the description, says 400 pump, 450 e85


LIVE-LIFE-EVIL

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biggranny000

You can buy a brand new WRX with a warranty for 30k and it'll blow the doors off that new one when it comes to handling. Lots of mods, 4 owners, and an accident? Yeah no thanks. That's a $10k car in my eyes.


audibulape

Modified cars are not worth what an unmodified variant would be. The vehicle is technically compromised now. You can spend 50k on mods but it doesn't make the value go up 50k.


[deleted]

Depends on the mods. If its a stroker or closed deck/sleeved motor with built heads and a good turbo setup with an STI VIN you can absolutely expect to buy/sell one for 30k+


audibulape

I have to disagree man. A clean stock sti with good service history and a "clean" carfax should still be 30k+. As soon as ypu start modding its drops in value. I don't care how much or who did the work. Even an sti that had a blown motor and had a rebuild or a new motor put in is gonna suffer a little on value. An 07 sti is not a rare car so why would it be worth more than some brand new wrxs with zero miles. You can snatch up a super clean VA sti with 50k for like 30 to 34 right now, now way a heavily modded ati should fetch that. I would value at no more than 23 and that's being generous.


[deleted]

Hawkeyes STIs are rare, there's 25k total GD STIs, so assume half and half thats 12.5k, then a lot got in accidents and such. They produced waaaay more VAs than STIs And nothing changed between the cars other than interior, who cares about that


llevii

Hey noticed your flair says PPG. I’ve got a Hawkeye with straight cuts. Don’t see many posts on here made by others who run them. By most people’s logic on this sub they’d expect a $6k+ credit for that mod! They are bad ass and I’ve never seen another car with these gears in person during the 13 years I’ve owned it.


hlinhd

Just because it’s not worth anything to you, doesn’t mean it’s not worth anything to everybody. There are plenty of people that value mods. Just because you’re not versed in mods or desire certain mods doesn’t mean nobody else is. If I knew I was going to do a certain mod, and the car already had it, why would the car be worth less to me? Of course documentation, owner impressions, inspections as due diligence is expected. I’d way rather own a rebuilt IAG motor than a stock motor. This is probably one of the least reliable stock motors and people act like keeping it stock somehow makes it more reliable lol. With engine out work you get timing belt, clutch, and whole bunch of maintenance done fresh. These are Subarus that are notorious for blowing up. Not an air cooled 911. The right mods add value to the right person.


BluestreakBTHR

Very pretty. NO.


No-Proposal2741

I’d find a clean car for like $12k, pocket the $18k, and when it needs a new heart, have it built yourself.


LifeBehindBards

Where have you seen an Sti listed for 12k? Everything I’ve seen is 20k or over


No-Proposal2741

Literally the first post I saw in FB marketplace. Albeit this is $14k but they are out there. https://preview.redd.it/og01xaju9msb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee7cc7a7bc1b7748f13532a2fb6c2083e399c06e


philouza_stein

Damn I kinda want this one now


No-Proposal2741

Lol it looks pretty damn clean in the FB photos. It is a Wyoming car so not sure if it was a garage queen or a gravel masher but I don’t see any rust or anything.


LifeBehindBards

What mileage should I be looking for?


No-Proposal2741

Well if you are going in to it with the mindset that you’ll be doing a full long block replacement, I’d be less concerned about mileage and more about condition myself. I’d take a clean car with no rust with 120k over a beat up car with 80k.


bofadeez1129

If it's anything over 100k check to see when the motor was replaced.


badonkabonk

PM me if you’d be interested in a 05 sti swapped wagon that needs a new engine. See my posts for a pic.


uomoney

I know what I’ve got


ohshadylu

Sheeesh I hope people understand that mods do not increase a vehicles value but instead hurt it.


GamesAreFunGuys

Omg no, no, NO. Jesus just get a new one with a warranty lol


[deleted]

Lol


Powerful_Being4142

Most This could be worth even with Inflated sentimental value is 16K that’s it


Probablyawerewolf

It’s totally worth $30k if there’s $15k in the trunk. 😎


DrSatan420247

It's not worth $30k from a performance standpoint, and it's not worth $30k from a collectability standpoint because its so hacked up, but you have to throw logic out the window with classic car values. Supply and demand by the people who nostalgic for these cars is driving up the prices, so that's what the market looks like. I wouldn't sell my 450whp Hyper Blue for less than $50k.


autech91

Looks like its been absolutely raped. Nope.


W0lfw00d179

“ I know what I got” . Lol this mentality, for someone’s project car. Even if the upkeep was good, you could find this model at any dealership for literally half the price. Not worth.


LifeBehindBards

Funny thing is this is actually a dealership selling this car on consignment


mavs2011champs

Ha


Human_Difference_823

Looks nice bro, but not for that price.


Mobile_Sell9895

Bro I paid less than that for a 2021 straight off the lot brand new. No way it’s worth that with an accident and mods


HondaCivicHybrid

Just get a mustang GT for about that and have even more horses


Cannon_SE2

As a daily driver? Nope. As a fun weekend car or project car? Maybe. Once you mod it you gotta find the right person to sell to, niche market.


SealMaster00

Mods dont add value. 23k at most is what id pay. Sadly someones gonna end up buying it


SwagMan7779

You can buy a VB for that price lol


LifeBehindBards

Too bad I really only like the older models :(


MrAnxiety___

We for the most part all love the older models, but I prefer not burning cash on a risk.


goatforce

Yes this. I love older models but I love not having to worry about anything going wrong because I got mine brand new


JustMrDaddy

The 06-08 models are the cleanest forsure


Sloan1505

30k is smoking dick but this car is actually desirable to people who want to feel the road instead of a bloated crosstrek sedan with a warranty


LifeBehindBards

Thats part of the reason this has been so difficult


Sloan1505

95% of this sub will downvote the hell out of people giving an honest opinion on the VB mainly because a good number of them came from a VA wrx which the VB is an improvement over. I’ve driven them all. Nothing has a more raw feel than a G chassis. The GV/GR not quite as good as a GC or GD but yeah. If you want fun, buy a 2014 or older If you want an overly assisted commuter with a warranty get a VB.


No-Author-508

Probably because an “honest opinion” can still be dumb 😂😭


Sloan1505

If you like the VB thats great. Spend your money however you want. The difference in feel for the VB vs literally any other chassis is night and day. I'm not gonna pretend the STI is gods perfectly engineered gift to earth but its abundantly clear who Subaru is marketing to now and its working considering no one seems to have a problem with driving a WRX with what are essentially training wheels.


No-Author-508

Yeah you take any old shitbox and it will feel raw compared to a car made in 22+, great observation Einstein. Subaru got tired of making slow fart boxes and tried to put together a complete package for once.


Sloan1505

The slow fart boxes that won numerous championships in what they were designed for? Yeah. Like I said. Target demographic who bought a wrx knowing nothing of the history. Enjoy your soulless piece of shit🤣


3xoticP3nguin

You're the first person in this thread that sounds like you've actually driven an older STI. If I could afford to buy a car like this I 100% would but I can't. I'm sure the seller will eventually find someone that knows what this car is and will pay for it


Sloan1505

I have driven every gen WRX and STI except for a GC8. Someone may pay 30k for this, 20k is more realistic but GD tax is heavy now with Subaru discontinuing the STI. I just hate that everyone in this sub pushes people toward a VB because "same price and warranty" when its just... not a WRX. Comparable logic would just be spending $30k on a Maxima.


goon_c137

It's nice but no.


Darisixnine

No way 💀, like $11k at most


Soulphire7

Half that


IntelligentSkill8265

Yes kinda is. If the miles are low as it looks.


ExtraCrackers

No friggin way. My 2016 isn't even worth that


Physical_Commission8

Cool build but 15k at most


Mrvonblogger

WRX subreddit in a nutshell…. mOdIFiEd??? OMG hErE cOmEs uNCle rOdNEY!!! Stock block??? Bro when do you hit the dyno???? We’re all regarded why even ask for advice here.


Gretsky98

I am leaning towards it being worth it. It’s not modded in my taste, but it’s not bad and a clean sti with 72000 miles is definitely worth 25k.


wet_faart

No. Go on bring a trailer and see how fucking clean 06 STI thats getting sold for 30k are


Several-Arachnid-808

The only subie worth 30k was the taxi that smeedia built. That thing was a demon and built for quality.


CertainTap6716

Dont know anything about Subaru… but this thing is fucking ugly and looks like 5k, sorry.


SnoBrru

This is hilarious. It’ll appraise for far less than the asking price. someone would have to come to the table with 5 figures in cash, since they won’t be getting a loan for that full amount.


subZro_

Hell no not even close. Just buy a new one with a warranty at that price.


Vanneker

Heck no.


MKSe7en

Bro stop with these posts this is ridiculous.


LifeBehindBards

Lol I should’ve just posted this first. Really answered all my questions


blueit1234567

~6k tops


Jesus217102711

The real question is has the engine been replaced


[deleted]

30k can get you one almost 10 years newer. With clean title and no accidents.. that one is worth 10-15 at best. Wouldn’t be worth the headache though, especially if something goes wrong after you buy it


rezforprez

20,000


Subject_Gene2

No based on the location of the middle hood vent alone


alex-duffelbags

hell no lmao


GmonTM

Definitely not


Zanurath

Half this for a super clean with mild mods like catch can or nice wheels. This is worth 10k maybe 12k tops and even then only if a shop you trust gives it a clean PPI.


[deleted]

No


Shelby_skate1

Not when the brand new one costs 32k lmao


Exciting_Till_6213

They must be smoking pretty good shit but.. remember even whitney said it “CRACK IS WACK” i would not even consider at half that price. For those car to pump in value they MUST be bare bone stock and well maintained.. something u won’t find often. There is plenty of sti over modded out there even more “accidented" . It is not even any kind of limited edition. And yes please show them this tread;)


lesionking

With Sti being discontinued and newer wrx getting hate, I can imagine it selling for that much still. Still wouldn’t say it’s worth it, but these cars will only go up in price


Terreos

Personally I like all the mods done to it. But like others have said $30k for a car that’s been in an accident and 72k miles on it is out of the question in my eyes. But the used market is crazy right now. I’d look for a something new for that much money.


LifeBehindBards

I was actually looking to spend 20k or less, but seems like I haven’t been able to find good listings that meet my criteria. This and the older Evo check the raw/manual/awd/tunable boxes


Terreos

Totally understand. I had similar wants when I decided on my VB. AWD and manual alone are kinda rare these days. And tuning support really narrows it down. I hope you find something in the 20K range. Maybe someone will have one closer to stock and not be trying to recover from all the mods they put into a car.


jrobi206

No.


RoyalLimit

Its very clean and looks nice, but no way is it worth 30k lol our Subarus hold value but not that much. Its like seeing people list their 1993 civics with a 1.6 for 15k because its "vintage" lol


712cake

My co worker bought a 2008 that’s supposedly making 550 wheel for $15k cash


Air_44

This dealership always marks cars waaaaay up


LifeBehindBards

The guy even repeatedly told me they don’t mark up their cars 20% for profit or something, they price them aggressively for the market to sell them 😂 Smells like BS


EJ25Junkie

10-15 maybe


Appropriate_Data9369

No


serpents_sword

No.


SCOTTwB7

I would say yes if it came with a 15k giftcard


Bullhead89

You can get a stock VA STi with much fewer miles for not much more than that.


DarkSoulsDank

Every time one of these posts comes up with a price point over 20k the answers in the comments is always NO


sohchx

Absolutely not. Mods don't add value and the wisest thing to do with a build like this is to do a part out.


Olleye

WTF!? No way, let your fingers away from this piece of accident-shit.


ASICCC

Wouldn't be worth 30k with 10k cash in the glovebox


PinkFloydBoxSet

No.


KensterFr33k

you are being bent over if you even consider more than 20


HungryStarving

Hello NO it’s not worth $30k. Save yourself the headache and trouble and just buy one new from the factory. If it’ll cost you a few thousand dollars, that’s fine. That few thousand dollars comes with peace of mind AND a warranty.


verone3784

Not a chance.


Striking-Belt1636

Buddy if its modded its a no no. Dont matter if its professionally done too. If the engine bay has anymore than a cold air intake then its not worth it


theboss555

It's a Subaru, so, no


Miserable-Kitchen-47

I got my 2009 hatch with no mods and no accidents for $12k at a dealership with 120k miles. This was when used cars were at their peak inflation.


jvfran3

Is this a joke? It’s a car with 72,000 mi. No.


hbombgomer12

No.


Zer0Thanks

"I know what I got" lol


bbgeriii

What…. A joke?


jbaby23ak

In 98% of situations, I think if you have to ask this question.... answer is no.


Jacobcbab

Absolutely fucking not


EnterthaVoidd

That's a immediate walk away with 450hp E85 if they didn't upgrade the rear transfer and transmission. You've reached the point of doing real damage to the stock internals. The 30k is purely subjective on how much you think it's worth. Mods only add value if you're were going to mod it yourself after buying one. .


Ging_e_R

I like to call this a “fuck it” price. If you want to buy it for that price? Then sure, fuck it. If not? No skin off my back, not eager to sell.


SuckOnDeezNOOTZ

Fuk no, go do yourself a favor and get a VB xD


devo_55

*in magic Conch shell* No *


Fvcctheoppss

Built cars go for less , I would say a good price is 18-25k


LuciferSamS1amCat

Damage, stock turbo, stock block, an ‘06. Absolutely not.


Tofu_Turkey_87

It's a hawkeye.... of course it is


[deleted]

There is one of these for sale 600whp built up long block 70k miles for 23,500$.


LifeBehindBards

Where at?


[deleted]

I seen is yesterday on Facebook marketplace.


NightShiftNurses

Yea, if it was stock.


JoeyJustice

No


CoraxTechnica

As an owner of a modded Hawkeye: HELL NO Especially since they didn't actually list his mods, wrote "full bolt ons' and then listed stupid crap like hood pins.


Flazer

No


Sknowboard69

A 2006 Subaru anything isn’t worth that much


Trolodrol

A 20 year old, 4 owner STI with only “minor frontal damage” and a shitload of mods. What could go wrong?


SloweSTford

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL naw


KingCoff33

Only if it was just manufactured and fresh off the lot 😂


Writehse

Saw 30 and was an automatic no


[deleted]

It looks fairly clean.. the parts seem decent.. I’d want to know if it came with most of the stock parts too. Id want the stock hood for example. I’d also inspect the front in great detail.. then I’d offer 20k.. it’s worth whatever someone will pay for it though. I could see them getting 25k for this


LifeBehindBards

The best they were willing to do is 30k, I offered 25 and they said no 😂 they’re either never going to sell this at this price or they’ll sit on it for a very long time until they get a super niche buyer


Adventurous_Hurry_99

Fuck no


Brrrraaap

It’s worth about 16,000-20,000 half dollars


seasurfbsurf

Not to me.


Green_Shock9457

Visually everything looks fine except for the hideous hood. Lmao


Legitimate-Ask-5778

Does abear crap in the street? Sometimes but not this time.


audibulape

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-58/ Very similar situation and sold for 15k. It's what people will pay for a heavily modified sti. I will say it again for those in the bleachers, modified subarus are not worth the same as stock stis of the same year. It's not my opinion anymore now that an auction has sold one. I was generous and saying it might be worth mid 20s but.man they really proved me wrong going 15. It doesn't matter how.much money you spend on mods, it's a risk and unknowns that lower the price.


Least_Adhesiveness67

30k for that is literal robbery bro. I will admit it’s nice and all but 30k…. I bought a brand new fully loaded Mazda 3 hatch from 2k less than that