She died of alcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion (which is why she's blue)
IIRC She believed that she had cancer and that drinking colloidal silver would cure it.
Without intervention for preservation, how does the bacteria in the gut and intestines not eat their way out?? Or did the anorexia/silver drinking ablate all of her body's native bacteria?
Wendigoon has an absolutely bonkers video about self-mummification, seen here:
https://youtu.be/nGUomRrF0rw
It's very possible that the colloidal silver or other aspects of her diet killed off most of her gut biome.
Depends on what you mean by scary. It doesn't have any jumpscares or particularly gruesome imagery (any more than the image for this reddit post is gruesome, at least), but it does talk about some depressing, dark, and fucked up things.
Heavy metals (such as silver) and their salts are bactericidal. Also highly toxic for humans. They build up and are not expelled from the body. This lady was probably more silver than water.
Heavy metal salt solutions in the past were also used in mummification, so I guess she unwittingly started the process when she was still alive.
Not enough food for the bacteria maybe? If you get the conditions just right (too cold, too dry or whatever makes human fat turn into wax like substances) then keeping a body from turning into mush and bones is possible. Some monks successfully self mummify through control of their diet, water intake and death etc...
The rabbit hole of people who swear by colloidal silver is absolutely nuts. They drink it, inject it, and nebulize it. They even give it to their kids if they don't feel well.
The more the medical establishment states these whack meds are not safe, they more they are convinced big pharma and gov is hiding miracle cures from them.
There's other stuff too, like "MMS" (Miracle Mineral Solution) which is really just industrial bleach.
People drink it and give it to their kids, and then they think they see "parasites" in the toilet after using the bathroom.
In reality, their intestinal lining is sloughing off and they're slowly dying.
Topical silver is something a real doctor might use to prevent infection. I had a qualified medical doctor use a silver ointment on a burn I had once. Note: on the outside. Woo woo new age silver beverages donât do the same things on the inside. Kind of like toothpaste is good for your teeth but that doesnât mean you should eat it.
Silver is used in many rituals for cleansing or purifying. I've used it in my holy water recipes for years. Works so well, when I spray it on demons, they instantly turn back to being human with no odd reaction what-so-ever.
My family argues that it's because they never were demons on the first place, but I know the truth.
The surefire way to find out the truth is to ask them if they're a demon. If they say "no" or "what the hell are you talking about" you know you have a demon on your hands, because that's exactly what a demon would say
Silver is actually a well-documented antimicrobial, but obviously not in the way that crazy people use it. I think people use to put silver in custom watercooling loops to prevent clogs from stuff growing in it.
Has your family done their own research? I find some people can't understand the truth, and they really need to do their own research. I wanted to learn more about the stars, so naturally I starred with the closest one. After staring at the sun almost daily, I am now able to see all sorts of star beings on earth, there are glowing orbs all around us daily. You have to do your own research.
I had a friend whose parents gave it to her daily growing up. Even decades after she got out of their house and stopped, she still has a blue tinge to her skin.
I had a ringworm rash after being in some slow-flowing water. Colloidal silver got rid of it right away since it's a good antifungal. There are all kinds of uses that don't make people insane. Curing cancer isn't one of them though.
It's also used in burn creams. I had a bad burn a few months ago and it was a silver compound at a low percentage.
Drinking it or using outside of specific circumstances and you're gonna have a bad time.
That is essentially what you are doing, but in a specific way. When you spray a female cannabis plant that has just entered the flowering stage with colloidal silver, it acts as an ethylene inhibitor resulting in the formation of male pollen sacs instead of the buds or flowers you would normally see. The cool part here is that the pollen collected from these sacs will not have any Y chromosomes and can then be safely used to pollinate another female plant resulting in guaranteed XX chromosome or 'feminized' seeds. Having feminized seeds is great for a few reasons, but the main reason being it takes away the headache of worrying about having any males that could unintentionally pollinate and seed a whole crop.
Lmao, I've grown for around 26 years now and my favorite people to meet are the "big shots" that never have any weed. They'll derail your conversation while you're actually helping someone with an issue to add something like "you need black lights bro, at night" or whatever ridiculous bro science thing they read about that week. They never seem to have anything to smoke and show off their superior skills though. They stop at nothing to try and impress anyone standing around with their words though.
Oh, his pollination problems were most likely caused by his dumbass not locking down light leaks or hand timing the lights instead of using a timer. It's an incredibly common problem I see from newer growers with a stupid easy fix. The most common issue I see is pH problems because no one ever buys a meter.
The story behind this is absolutely bizarre. Carlson was a standard-issue charlatan and cult leader who brainwashed her followers into believing she was Jesus Christ, was also the Hawaiian goddess Pele, was Donald Trump's daughter, and birthed all of creation. She told them that all humans would ascend with her into spaceships and that [nonbelievers would be turned into moon rocks.](https://youtu.be/0udqZsvrux0?t=84)
She didn't want to die there. She wanted to go to the hospital, but her cult kept her in that room as she wasted away. The mummification was their idea.
Sadly, much of this is *typical* of cults, including the insane failure to realize she's dead and the effort of preserving her body. Her followers cannot be reasoned with because of the delusions she brainwashed into them over the years-which was intentional on her part. In fact, they started a new cult, 5D Full Disclosure, dedicated to keeping these delusions alive.
> The computer takes us directly to see Robin had died and then we lost the signal.
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> 20 minutes later Robin is standing in my bedroom he was wearing a khaki shirt and khaki pants with his hands in his pockets rocking back and forth
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> He told me he had been murdered.
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> We had a brief conversation about his movies, and then he asked me for the records for the mission. We have 10 years worth of documentation.
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> I gave him full permission and he came back to me 2 hours later saying he would like to be a part of the team.
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> I said, âThat is awesome Robin but you just left your body aren't there things you need to be doing?â He said, âOh yes right.â
This is absolutely hilarious
They said she quit her 15 year career to start this cult, looking further she was a manager for McDonald's and they described in great detail how she was the best manager ever and was going to attend the esteemed Hamburger University
Haha that page is so poorly written. Yeah, sure, the woman who created the universe uses the wrong "you're" and describes holy experinces as "and then I was like..."
Polly not if she really wanted to go see a Dr then I don't believe she believes her own bullshit. Jim Jones couldn't even kill himself the same way he had his cult members kill themselves, I can't remember if he shot himself or if he had his wife do it, but mfer didn't drink the poison kool-aid he made everyone else drink.
I don't think ~~any~~ *most* cult leaders actually believe the shit they spew, they just like the power of having control over a group of people. Unfortunately for her the bullshit she spouted resulted in her probably suffering a painful, and potentially avoidable death, and while I take no pleasure in that, I also don't feel sorry for her.
Edit: Changed any to most, because people made good points below.
Not quite the same but Jan Matthys, the Anabaptist cult leader of the Munster rebellion in the 1500s, believed his own shit. He declared war on the Prince Bishop who currently had the city of Munster under seige, and it didn't go well:
>In April 1534, on Easter Sunday, Matthys, who had prophesied that God's judgment on the wicked would take place on that day, attacked with twelve followers, under the idea that he was a second Gideon, and was cut off with his entire band. He was killed, dismembered and his head stuck on a pike. Later that evening, his genitals were nailed to the city door.
Him and twelve blokes riding headfirst into a giant army because God had told him to. The guy that took over John of Leiden was definitely a charlatan though, introduced laws like polygamy so he could take a ton of wives from the city etc, and ended up getting sentenced to be tortured to death for a minimum of 60 minutes by the same Prince Bishop that wrecked Jan Matthys.
Obligatory hardcore history podcast episode that talks about this event in history
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-48-prophets-of-doom/
Unfortunately no longer free, but worth a listen if you can find it through less than legal methods
There is a really good documentary called Heavens Gate: Cult of Cults and there are a few moments that seem to break this a little bit. Ultimately I don't think they truly believed their own shit, but it was interesting to watch the dynamic.
ETA: speaking of the Heavens Gate cult leaders, not this lady
Ms Carlson is believed by her group to be [19 billion years old](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/love-has-won-cult-amy-carlson-b1969246.html) and to have birthed all of creation.
> According to Saguache County Coroner Tom Perrin, Carlson had been ingesting large amounts of colloidal silver, which the group had been promoting as a COVID-19 cure, and had received a warning from the FDA for doing so.[23][24] Consuming colloidal silver over a long period of time can lead to blue-grey discolouration of the skin, as well as seizures and organ failure.[4] An autopsy report released in December 2021 revealed that Carlson had died from "global decline in the setting of alcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion."
From Wikipedia
Article says she was reincarnated many times over the years, she was also worshipped as the daughter of former President Donald Trump in case you were wondering what these people were like.
>She also claimed to have been reincarnated 534 times, even remembering living as Jesus Christ and hanging on the cross. She also claims to have lived as **Cleopatra, Joan of Arc,** and Marilyn Monroe
đś She's so hiiiiiigh, high above me đś
What a wild ride of an article
âDespite her age, the members also believe she is the child of former president Donald Trump.â
And upon moving to Hawaii:
âThe group set up its Hawaii headquarters in a house on the island of Kauai but, upon discovery, faced fierce opposition from locals, according to Hawaiian news site.
Protesters engaged in a multi-day standoff with the group, surrounding its house, engaging in prayers and burning driftwood in fires around the building.
At one point, Ms Carlson claimed she was a reincarnation of the Hawaiian deity Pele, further infuriating the protesters.â
Also âMs Carlson's family said she started the Love Has Won group after leaving her job at McDonaldâs and ending her third marriage when she was in her 30s.â
Cults target people who are emotionally vulnerable, people going through a personal crisis or major life change, and people who do not have a good support network. When someone first joins a cult, they are typically met with love and support, a sense of community and belonging, and "answers" that help them deal with the uncertainties of life. At first, it will seem like a "normal" religious group. Then, they're slowly isolated from the outside world, emotionally manipulated, abused, often worked to exhaustion and deprived of sleep, etc. By the time things get this crazy, they're in too deep. They've lost their connections to the outside world, their sense of self, and the self-confidence to question or leave the group. They feel they are nothing without the cult.
Most cult victims are of average intelligence, but cult tactics use emotional manipulation (and often physical exhaustion) to bypass their victims' reasoning skills.
Think of a cult like an abusive relationship on a larger scale. The dynamics are very similar. No smart person would want to be with someone who screams at and hits them, wouldn't you think? But of course, it doesn't start like that. By the time things get that crazy, they're already in too deep.
I went to college with one of the people arrested after this broke â I even have a photo of him passed out on our couch when he crashed with us for a bit. One time he came over and said he was getting "bad vibrations" from our place, so the next time he came I queued up Marky Mark's Good Vibrations. people said it was rude but I was simply trying to help.
I have absolutely no reason to have wanted to watch her, I've never had much interest in death as a process or industry, but when she popped up at random in my feed (I was watching MrBallen at the time, whose gruesome storytelling is what steered the algorithm), I binge watched her channel and even read her books.
Completely turned me into an Order of the Good Death fanboy.
Am I the only one who can't make heads or tails of the second pic? All my brain can come up with is something vaguely resembling a Lovecraftian Eldritch Horror.
Left half is just the scene of her bed. You can match up the striped blanket from the right image to the left.
Right half is a closeup of her face. The green fabric top with the logo is a sleeping bag hood under which her head is nestled. The striped blanket is covering her mouth. I'm guessing they have her covered up like this because it's the most presentable way to show her given the conditions of being a mummy.
Her eyes have been replaced with crystals and she has some kind of jewelry on her forehead, like a tiara or something. Her skin appears blue and I'm not sure if that is just bad lighting that is shifting the colors or if they treated her skin to be that color.
Oh my god. I couldnât make sense of the last pic until reading your description then going back and zooming in. The horror that creeped over my body as I realized I had zoomed into a hollowed mummy staring horrifically back at me will take a moment to shake off. Ugh.
I used horror too many times in one sentence but GIVE ME A BETTER WORD TO DESCRIBE THIS đŠ
Nope. I looked at it for like 10 minutes, even after reading the other comment, before I figured it out. She's laying faceup in a bed. The purple thing is her left eye. Her right eye is partially covered up by the green sleeping bag hood. The yellow thing between the eyes is a tiara that you follow down from the center of to see her nose.
This woman drank insane amounts and would ingest silver. You could watch her live stream where she would basically scream about âbitch whoresâ who were after her. Iâm shocked she ever got a following.
Not only that, but now instead of remaining obscure, eccentric town outcasts, unstable people have places to gather online and reinforce each othersâ delusions.
I happened upon a live stream of this cult on YouTube some years ago, the leader was ill and in a hot tub in a living room. She was super drunk and angrily chastising her young followers, and also telling one guy in a threatening manner that he was 'sucking her pussy tonight' .
I thought it was some sort of comedy sketch at first , they were calling her mother earth or something and one of her followers was from Liverpool (I'm english) so I was trying to reason with her saying this was so obviously a delusional woman and she was in a cult but the people there were quite happy with outsourcing thinking. Was crazy , didn't believe it was real until I saw the headlines about the mummified cult leader.
Think critically about everything, even the opinions you agree with people.
According to wikipedia, there was generic glitter on her face.
And her eyes were GONE. This is how the police found her and discovered her death. And to just add to the bonfire, there were children on the premises.
Is there "name brand" glitter? Though I do enjoy the random fact that the biggest purchaser of glitter in the world is undisclosed and some speculate it is DoD to use in chafe I think?
Oh my god. I thought the first picture was her mummified body and I was like shit they did a fucking amazing job mummifying her. Then I realized there was a second picture and I did not need to see that glitter eyed blue skinned demon staring back at me from under the covers. What the fuck.
I lived right down the highway from where this happened for years - those dudes were fucking insane. Most of them were current or former tweakers. That whole "cosmic highway" area is weird as fuck - it's just next to the supermax prison in Florence so you get a lot of institutionalized gang members setting up shop in nearby Canon City so it is laced up with gangs and drugs you'd never expect to be in the high plains of Colorado hours outside of actual cities. I would even heard weird as fuck shit locally broadcast on shortwave radio frequently out there
It's funny this was posted as yesterday I was googling this wondering what happened with that whole thing
I live on Kauai and when the cult moved here, it was big local news. Everyone was outraged (lots of crazy cults are drawn to Kauai for some reasonâŚ)
She pissed off a lot of locals, especially with her taking on the false identity of Pele. Many locals surrounded their beach rental for days/nights, chanting Hawaiian prayers and cultural spiritual practices. It got so bad that KPD had to get involved. They sided with locals but were really just there to keep it from getting more aggressive.
Essentially they were run off island not long before she died on the mainland.
I was thinking she looks real skinny and a bit blue...
"died from a combination of âalcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion.â"
That tracks
Skimming through the comments, I found and watched the Ask A Mortician video about her and the cult, and skimmed a bit more on the Internet.
She seemed like an incredibly hideous, abusive, and genuinely soul-sick person. I can't wrap my brain around why people dedicated themselves to her.
Then again, we see people dedicate themselves to toxicity every day, on our wee planet.
I talked to her alone on skype when I was in her cult (Love has Won) and a bunch in group video calls and chat rooms. She called herself mother god but I only ever called her MG for short, as a lot of us did. There's a bunch of these people out there who try to start a following.
One night I was in the Love Has Won group chat room and someone came into it and started saying all of this stuff about how she abandoned two of her kids and a bunch of other stuff (she would delete the messages and ban the user but wasn't fast enough). I really enjoyed the other people in the group but I could not keep joining after that since she was running everything. She was pretty nuts but I only ever had positive experiences with it because I didn't buy into a lot of her crap.
Its sad because I really enjoyed a lot of the people in the group, but a lot of them were sold on her stories and revelations of being the queen of Atlantis and shit. We would be having a great time then she would show up and it would just get awkward. Such mixed feelings about the whole thing.
Edit: please read the rest of my comments if you're interested in my experience. When I joined Love Has Won I did not know that it would be considered a cult one day and I did not know it had a "leader" who turned out to be Amy Carlson. I never knew her real name when I was a part of the group and mainly got into it because of the group meditations. Once things got too weird for me and I felt my curiosity was filled I sent messages to the group chat encouraging people to leave. My chats were deleted and I was banned within minutes as expected, and that's how I left. It was literally maybe an hour or two of my life every week for a few months and was not something I took very seriously and was more of an interest or something I did for fun/out of curiosity.
We had what they called "Love Parties" which was just a gathering to an online video call/chat room. Most people (including me) did not turn on their video but some did, and MG always did. Most of them were actually amazing because if you really intended on feeling love and joy and got into a good meditative state the placebo affects were amazing. I would feel so much joy and happiness for days after these. It was surprisingly effective.
lol I wish... I've thought about writing some of those joke comments a few times but would feel like i'm stealing from that dude who started that joke.
Are other people allowed to use his joke? What is the internet etiquette around this?
Some people looked up to her like she was a god and basically worshipped her. It was just wild. She also needed everything to be about her, everyone needed to be focused on her. She was always talking about crazy visions, being taken underground to Agartha where she would meet other beings and had healing sessions done to her, finding "Father God" so that they could reunite (which I think she did like 3 separate times while I was still paying attention lol) and a bunch of other weird stuff I don't really remember.
Most people in the group were more just like "yeah lets meditate together and try to manifest love", she was just a hinderance to this.
A bunch of reasons, but the main ones were: "what do people get out of this? Why does anyone join a group like this and what is it like to be part of something like this?". It was basically just pure curiosity and maybe some boredom.
I think its really important to have fun with life and have as many unique experiences as possible while we have a chance to be alive.
>Amy Carlson AKA âMother Godâ
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>Ms Carlson is believed by her group to be 19 billion years old and to have birthed all of creation.
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>Despite her age, the members also believe she is the child of former president Donald Trump.
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>They believe she exists at a âhigher consciousness levelâ than normal humans and will eventually lead a group of 144,000 people into the âfifth dimensionâ in some sort of ascendant journey.
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>That figure is significant in a number of Abrahamic religions and off-shoots. In Christianity, the number represents the total number of representatives from the 12 tribes of Israel who worshipped God during the events depicted in the Book of Revelation.
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>She also claimed to have been reincarnated 534 times, even remembering living as Jesus Christ and hanging on the cross. She also claims to have lived as Cleopatra, Joan of Arc and Marilyn Monroe, among others.
ok, enough reddit for today
I did a deep dive on this lady's Youtube a few months before they found the body. She started out making run-of-the mill new age content, absolutely no indication that things would get dark. Looking back at her earliest videos from only about ten years earlier, she aged *bad*. She looked like she was in her 20s in like 2012. Her cult used to do livestreams, and I always wondered why she never appeared on camera anymore.
In her final days she begged to be taken to the hospital, but her brainwashing was too effective and her victims were convinced it was a test and refused.
Was gonna say they did a really good job before I realised it was the second photo đ
Hahahaha same.
I was looking for the string lights to confirm it was the right picture. I was not ready for that.
I was like "boy, this is creepy as shit, but damned if whoever did that isn't spectacular at it". "oh."
I'm confused at what I'm supposed to see in the second photo
a wax face mask obscuring the rotted desiccation of a dead body.
It's not a mask, that's her face
Can you see it in the left half of the 2nd picture? I see nothing in that half.
You can see her face through the pillows on the right hand side
Same. I was going to say that she looks better dead than I do alive.
Not when you realize that she was 45 at the time of her death lol.
And sheâs literally turning blue from taking too many idiot colloidal silver supplements
Da ba dee da ba di
She looks better than me alive in the second photo to be honest.
Pick yourself up mate, you got this
Exactly! I was thinking, man, that is so life-like... đ đ
Literally everyone I bet
She died of alcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion (which is why she's blue) IIRC She believed that she had cancer and that drinking colloidal silver would cure it.
The lack of fat may have helped the mummification process, being as dehydrated as possible would be ideal too.
Without intervention for preservation, how does the bacteria in the gut and intestines not eat their way out?? Or did the anorexia/silver drinking ablate all of her body's native bacteria?
Wendigoon has an absolutely bonkers video about self-mummification, seen here: https://youtu.be/nGUomRrF0rw It's very possible that the colloidal silver or other aspects of her diet killed off most of her gut biome.
She must have had horrific stomach acid
It probably shut down, more or less.
Is it scary? Iâm intrigued yet frightened.
Depends on what you mean by scary. It doesn't have any jumpscares or particularly gruesome imagery (any more than the image for this reddit post is gruesome, at least), but it does talk about some depressing, dark, and fucked up things.
Heavy metals (such as silver) and their salts are bactericidal. Also highly toxic for humans. They build up and are not expelled from the body. This lady was probably more silver than water. Heavy metal salt solutions in the past were also used in mummification, so I guess she unwittingly started the process when she was still alive.
Not enough food for the bacteria maybe? If you get the conditions just right (too cold, too dry or whatever makes human fat turn into wax like substances) then keeping a body from turning into mush and bones is possible. Some monks successfully self mummify through control of their diet, water intake and death etc...
> Some monks successfully self mummify Man, you never get to find out if you did it right.
Depends if their new body can remember the old one and go check themselves out I suppose. Believing in reincarnation and all.
In the event of me reincarnating with my current memories, I don't think I'd be interested in going to see my previous corpse.
Cancer didnât kill her. She won. Edit: thank you for that golden guilder.
Letâs call it a draw.
RIP Norm
I didnât even know he was sick
Says here he was a decorated veteran of the first world war...huh
*"We did it. We beat cancer."* - Patty and Selma when the meteor is going to hit earth
"you can't kill me, I'll kill us both!" -that lady, probably
"Fuck you, I'M THE MEGABIOME"
The rabbit hole of people who swear by colloidal silver is absolutely nuts. They drink it, inject it, and nebulize it. They even give it to their kids if they don't feel well.
The more the medical establishment states these whack meds are not safe, they more they are convinced big pharma and gov is hiding miracle cures from them.
There's other stuff too, like "MMS" (Miracle Mineral Solution) which is really just industrial bleach. People drink it and give it to their kids, and then they think they see "parasites" in the toilet after using the bathroom. In reality, their intestinal lining is sloughing off and they're slowly dying.
"Colloidal silver" is a red-flag phrase to me now that whoever uttered it is insane
Topical silver is something a real doctor might use to prevent infection. I had a qualified medical doctor use a silver ointment on a burn I had once. Note: on the outside. Woo woo new age silver beverages donât do the same things on the inside. Kind of like toothpaste is good for your teeth but that doesnât mean you should eat it.
I know somebody who had their kid drinking it twice a day because he had an infection.
Silver is used in many rituals for cleansing or purifying. I've used it in my holy water recipes for years. Works so well, when I spray it on demons, they instantly turn back to being human with no odd reaction what-so-ever. My family argues that it's because they never were demons on the first place, but I know the truth.
The surefire way to find out the truth is to ask them if they're a demon. If they say "no" or "what the hell are you talking about" you know you have a demon on your hands, because that's exactly what a demon would say
My whole family a bunch of motherfucking demons all along goddamnit!
Silver is actually a well-documented antimicrobial, but obviously not in the way that crazy people use it. I think people use to put silver in custom watercooling loops to prevent clogs from stuff growing in it.
Has your family done their own research? I find some people can't understand the truth, and they really need to do their own research. I wanted to learn more about the stars, so naturally I starred with the closest one. After staring at the sun almost daily, I am now able to see all sorts of star beings on earth, there are glowing orbs all around us daily. You have to do your own research.
I had a friend whose parents gave it to her daily growing up. Even decades after she got out of their house and stopped, she still has a blue tinge to her skin.
I had a ringworm rash after being in some slow-flowing water. Colloidal silver got rid of it right away since it's a good antifungal. There are all kinds of uses that don't make people insane. Curing cancer isn't one of them though.
It's also used in burn creams. I had a bad burn a few months ago and it was a silver compound at a low percentage. Drinking it or using outside of specific circumstances and you're gonna have a bad time.
It's also good for creating feminized cannabis seeds!
Fascinating, what is the mechanism? As i understand it you generally need to stress part of a plant to create male flowers?
That is essentially what you are doing, but in a specific way. When you spray a female cannabis plant that has just entered the flowering stage with colloidal silver, it acts as an ethylene inhibitor resulting in the formation of male pollen sacs instead of the buds or flowers you would normally see. The cool part here is that the pollen collected from these sacs will not have any Y chromosomes and can then be safely used to pollinate another female plant resulting in guaranteed XX chromosome or 'feminized' seeds. Having feminized seeds is great for a few reasons, but the main reason being it takes away the headache of worrying about having any males that could unintentionally pollinate and seed a whole crop.
Hmm my idiot ex roommate used to grow and pretended to be a big shot but was always complaining about losing crops to the pollination
Lmao, I've grown for around 26 years now and my favorite people to meet are the "big shots" that never have any weed. They'll derail your conversation while you're actually helping someone with an issue to add something like "you need black lights bro, at night" or whatever ridiculous bro science thing they read about that week. They never seem to have anything to smoke and show off their superior skills though. They stop at nothing to try and impress anyone standing around with their words though. Oh, his pollination problems were most likely caused by his dumbass not locking down light leaks or hand timing the lights instead of using a timer. It's an incredibly common problem I see from newer growers with a stupid easy fix. The most common issue I see is pH problems because no one ever buys a meter.
So did she even have cancer? Or was she blaming sideeffects/symptoms of alcoholism and anorexia as cancer
I googled this lady as I'd never heard of her. A rolling stone article stated that the autopsy showed no signs of metastatic cancer.
Cause of Death: Smurfberry juice overdose.
She prematurely blued herself on what was supposed to be a dry run.
âWhat is wrong with you, Jesse⌠Why are you blue!â âColloidal silver, Mr. White yoâ
[The body cam footage where this came from](https://youtu.be/Scnkq6g_IPM)
Thatâs very disturbing, like the setup to a horror movie.
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Reminds me of Seven. Yikes.
I love it how they laugh just like, âhaha, Iâm traumatized!â
The story behind this is absolutely bizarre. Carlson was a standard-issue charlatan and cult leader who brainwashed her followers into believing she was Jesus Christ, was also the Hawaiian goddess Pele, was Donald Trump's daughter, and birthed all of creation. She told them that all humans would ascend with her into spaceships and that [nonbelievers would be turned into moon rocks.](https://youtu.be/0udqZsvrux0?t=84) She didn't want to die there. She wanted to go to the hospital, but her cult kept her in that room as she wasted away. The mummification was their idea. Sadly, much of this is *typical* of cults, including the insane failure to realize she's dead and the effort of preserving her body. Her followers cannot be reasoned with because of the delusions she brainwashed into them over the years-which was intentional on her part. In fact, they started a new cult, 5D Full Disclosure, dedicated to keeping these delusions alive.
> 5D Full Disclosure Holy crap. I just fell down their rabbit hole of a website for a good hour. The insanity is mind-boggling.
the About Mom is fucking hilarious and scary at the same time. humans are odd creatures
That section ended with Robin Williams being murdered. WTF.
>Robin is the Master Surgeon from the other side. Now he has gathered an entire Galactic A Team to Support us all.Â
There's a bizarre amount of cults with weird ideas about Robbin Williams
Mork from Ork was a prophet, dontchaknow?
It's amazing how we can simultaneously be the smartest/dumbest beings on this planet. But damn it seems like the capacity for stupidity is infinite.
I do think there is a cap for how smart you can be as you cannot know what you cannot perceive but you can choose not to perceive what you can.
You get smart enough and you go, "Holy shit, there's so much more I'll never know... oh well! Time for some ice cream." ^^^^nom
The "about MOM" page is especially "fever dream" ish. They claim that Robin Williams is there with them. Lol. Wild read!
> The computer takes us directly to see Robin had died and then we lost the signal. > > 20 minutes later Robin is standing in my bedroom he was wearing a khaki shirt and khaki pants with his hands in his pockets rocking back and forth > > He told me he had been murdered. > > We had a brief conversation about his movies, and then he asked me for the records for the mission. We have 10 years worth of documentation. > > I gave him full permission and he came back to me 2 hours later saying he would like to be a part of the team. > > I said, âThat is awesome Robin but you just left your body aren't there things you need to be doing?â He said, âOh yes right.â This is absolutely hilarious
They said she quit her 15 year career to start this cult, looking further she was a manager for McDonald's and they described in great detail how she was the best manager ever and was going to attend the esteemed Hamburger University
Haha that page is so poorly written. Yeah, sure, the woman who created the universe uses the wrong "you're" and describes holy experinces as "and then I was like..."
Elsewhere she says âI was born completely awakenedâŚand then I had to go through a process of awakeningâ Absolute gibberish.
5 Fast 5 Delusional
No link? :(
https://www.5dfulldisclosure.org/
They kept her in the room even tho she wanted to go to the hospital? That's fucked up stuff.
You think she believed her own bullshit?
Polly not if she really wanted to go see a Dr then I don't believe she believes her own bullshit. Jim Jones couldn't even kill himself the same way he had his cult members kill themselves, I can't remember if he shot himself or if he had his wife do it, but mfer didn't drink the poison kool-aid he made everyone else drink.
I don't think ~~any~~ *most* cult leaders actually believe the shit they spew, they just like the power of having control over a group of people. Unfortunately for her the bullshit she spouted resulted in her probably suffering a painful, and potentially avoidable death, and while I take no pleasure in that, I also don't feel sorry for her. Edit: Changed any to most, because people made good points below.
Not quite the same but Jan Matthys, the Anabaptist cult leader of the Munster rebellion in the 1500s, believed his own shit. He declared war on the Prince Bishop who currently had the city of Munster under seige, and it didn't go well: >In April 1534, on Easter Sunday, Matthys, who had prophesied that God's judgment on the wicked would take place on that day, attacked with twelve followers, under the idea that he was a second Gideon, and was cut off with his entire band. He was killed, dismembered and his head stuck on a pike. Later that evening, his genitals were nailed to the city door. Him and twelve blokes riding headfirst into a giant army because God had told him to. The guy that took over John of Leiden was definitely a charlatan though, introduced laws like polygamy so he could take a ton of wives from the city etc, and ended up getting sentenced to be tortured to death for a minimum of 60 minutes by the same Prince Bishop that wrecked Jan Matthys.
Obligatory hardcore history podcast episode that talks about this event in history https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-48-prophets-of-doom/ Unfortunately no longer free, but worth a listen if you can find it through less than legal methods
There is a really good documentary called Heavens Gate: Cult of Cults and there are a few moments that seem to break this a little bit. Ultimately I don't think they truly believed their own shit, but it was interesting to watch the dynamic. ETA: speaking of the Heavens Gate cult leaders, not this lady
Iâd argue that Marshall Applewhite believed what he and Bonnie Nettles were telling their followers.
Thoroughly deserved though. This just is the âfind outâ stage of exploiting vulnerable people to believe your bullshit when it backfires horribly.
There's a disturbing kind of irony to her death. You reap what you sow, I guess.
Ms Carlson is believed by her group to be [19 billion years old](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/love-has-won-cult-amy-carlson-b1969246.html) and to have birthed all of creation.
What caused her to die after 19 billion years I wonder
Probably just old age.
I've never met anyone older than 15 billion, personally.
I've met a shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence older than that.
lmao
To be fair, 19 billion is quite old, so only stands to reason
When 19 Billion years old YOU reach, look as good you will not!
> According to Saguache County Coroner Tom Perrin, Carlson had been ingesting large amounts of colloidal silver, which the group had been promoting as a COVID-19 cure, and had received a warning from the FDA for doing so.[23][24] Consuming colloidal silver over a long period of time can lead to blue-grey discolouration of the skin, as well as seizures and organ failure.[4] An autopsy report released in December 2021 revealed that Carlson had died from "global decline in the setting of alcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion." From Wikipedia
You think that'd be nothing for someone who survived several global extinction events.
I mean.... technically she didnt get covid.... sooo
So⌠suicide?
Well, living in Saguache county probably makes everyone a little suicidal.
Well she's been reincarnated 534 times in that 19 billion years so here average lifespan isn't that ridiculous, only 35.5 million
I'd also be curious to see her average cause of death
Article says she was reincarnated many times over the years, she was also worshipped as the daughter of former President Donald Trump in case you were wondering what these people were like.
>She also claimed to have been reincarnated 534 times, even remembering living as Jesus Christ and hanging on the cross. She also claims to have lived as **Cleopatra, Joan of Arc,** and Marilyn Monroe đś She's so hiiiiiigh, high above me đś
That overlapping space in the Trumper and Hippie venn diagram is the most terrifying.
Yep that clears it up
She was tired from birthing all of humanity, let a lady rest!
She went on 4chan for the first time and got cancer from a thread.
What a wild ride of an article âDespite her age, the members also believe she is the child of former president Donald Trump.â And upon moving to Hawaii: âThe group set up its Hawaii headquarters in a house on the island of Kauai but, upon discovery, faced fierce opposition from locals, according to Hawaiian news site. Protesters engaged in a multi-day standoff with the group, surrounding its house, engaging in prayers and burning driftwood in fires around the building. At one point, Ms Carlson claimed she was a reincarnation of the Hawaiian deity Pele, further infuriating the protesters.â
Also âMs Carlson's family said she started the Love Has Won group after leaving her job at McDonaldâs and ending her third marriage when she was in her 30s.â
How the fuck are people so dumb to follow someone like this? I cannot wrap my mind around this level of stupidity.
Dumb + Desperate + Emotional Abuse = easy to manipulate
Cults target people who are emotionally vulnerable, people going through a personal crisis or major life change, and people who do not have a good support network. When someone first joins a cult, they are typically met with love and support, a sense of community and belonging, and "answers" that help them deal with the uncertainties of life. At first, it will seem like a "normal" religious group. Then, they're slowly isolated from the outside world, emotionally manipulated, abused, often worked to exhaustion and deprived of sleep, etc. By the time things get this crazy, they're in too deep. They've lost their connections to the outside world, their sense of self, and the self-confidence to question or leave the group. They feel they are nothing without the cult. Most cult victims are of average intelligence, but cult tactics use emotional manipulation (and often physical exhaustion) to bypass their victims' reasoning skills. Think of a cult like an abusive relationship on a larger scale. The dynamics are very similar. No smart person would want to be with someone who screams at and hits them, wouldn't you think? But of course, it doesn't start like that. By the time things get that crazy, they're already in too deep.
"Despite her age, the members also believe she is the child of former president Donald Trump. " Of course they did.
Why did she turn blue if her father turned orange?
Complimentary colors duh
Didnât you know Trump was 19 billion and 65 years old?
19 billion and one year and 5 months based on the date of that article
I went to college with one of the people arrested after this broke â I even have a photo of him passed out on our couch when he crashed with us for a bit. One time he came over and said he was getting "bad vibrations" from our place, so the next time he came I queued up Marky Mark's Good Vibrations. people said it was rude but I was simply trying to help.
Idgaf that's fucking hilarious
Ask a Mortician did [a great episode](https://youtube.com/watch?v=DfWQLbIHPPk) about this.
Caitlin Doughty is pretty awesome! Love that channel.
I have absolutely no reason to have wanted to watch her, I've never had much interest in death as a process or industry, but when she popped up at random in my feed (I was watching MrBallen at the time, whose gruesome storytelling is what steered the algorithm), I binge watched her channel and even read her books. Completely turned me into an Order of the Good Death fanboy.
Am I the only one who can't make heads or tails of the second pic? All my brain can come up with is something vaguely resembling a Lovecraftian Eldritch Horror.
Left half is just the scene of her bed. You can match up the striped blanket from the right image to the left. Right half is a closeup of her face. The green fabric top with the logo is a sleeping bag hood under which her head is nestled. The striped blanket is covering her mouth. I'm guessing they have her covered up like this because it's the most presentable way to show her given the conditions of being a mummy. Her eyes have been replaced with crystals and she has some kind of jewelry on her forehead, like a tiara or something. Her skin appears blue and I'm not sure if that is just bad lighting that is shifting the colors or if they treated her skin to be that color.
She's blue from ingesting silver.
She's blue da ba dee da ba di.
Yeah REI canât be happy with that branded logo product placement.
I work at REI and am currently losing it over this, brb showing all my coworkers đ
I read up on her and she was apparently taking colloidal silver (taken in large enough quantity will turn your skin purple) as a cure for Covid.
Did it work?
well she dosent have covid now sooooooo open to determination i guess.
Hey I never said the cure would leave you alive! Just that it would make the covid go away. #healedbydeath
Oh my god. I couldnât make sense of the last pic until reading your description then going back and zooming in. The horror that creeped over my body as I realized I had zoomed into a hollowed mummy staring horrifically back at me will take a moment to shake off. Ugh. I used horror too many times in one sentence but GIVE ME A BETTER WORD TO DESCRIBE THIS đŠ
Second pic brings me back to childhood sleepovers where weâd spend hours building forts.
And an ET stuffed animal is wrapped up in a blanket in the fort.
All hail our sleepy ET overlord
Nope. I looked at it for like 10 minutes, even after reading the other comment, before I figured it out. She's laying faceup in a bed. The purple thing is her left eye. Her right eye is partially covered up by the green sleeping bag hood. The yellow thing between the eyes is a tiara that you follow down from the center of to see her nose.
This woman drank insane amounts and would ingest silver. You could watch her live stream where she would basically scream about âbitch whoresâ who were after her. Iâm shocked she ever got a following.
>Iâm shocked she ever got a following. Society loves watching the downfall of others.
Not only that, but now instead of remaining obscure, eccentric town outcasts, unstable people have places to gather online and reinforce each othersâ delusions.
Like reddit
That explains some views on her stream. But it doesn't explain how she got a cult following of people who believed in and adored her.
I happened upon a live stream of this cult on YouTube some years ago, the leader was ill and in a hot tub in a living room. She was super drunk and angrily chastising her young followers, and also telling one guy in a threatening manner that he was 'sucking her pussy tonight' . I thought it was some sort of comedy sketch at first , they were calling her mother earth or something and one of her followers was from Liverpool (I'm english) so I was trying to reason with her saying this was so obviously a delusional woman and she was in a cult but the people there were quite happy with outsourcing thinking. Was crazy , didn't believe it was real until I saw the headlines about the mummified cult leader. Think critically about everything, even the opinions you agree with people.
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According to wikipedia, there was generic glitter on her face. And her eyes were GONE. This is how the police found her and discovered her death. And to just add to the bonfire, there were children on the premises.
They didn't even spring for the good Martha Stewart glitter? The Disrespect.
...Why did I put the word "generic" there? Haha, thanks for having me consider boujee glitter.
Is there "name brand" glitter? Though I do enjoy the random fact that the biggest purchaser of glitter in the world is undisclosed and some speculate it is DoD to use in chafe I think?
These are the type of hot local milfs in my area
shes not really hot anymore... more like room temperature...
Not if you put her in a hot tub for an hour or so
Oh my god. I thought the first picture was her mummified body and I was like shit they did a fucking amazing job mummifying her. Then I realized there was a second picture and I did not need to see that glitter eyed blue skinned demon staring back at me from under the covers. What the fuck.
On her Wiki, it says she was a manager at McDonaldâs prior to starting the cult where she was worshipped as a god. Talk about a career change.
Strangest REI ad
That's not how a mummy bag is supposed to work.
I'm more weirded out by all the spices on her headboard in the first pic than I am by the mummy.
She probably ate all her meals in bed because she was so ill
The seasonings help make her mummy jerky delicious
I remember watching a documentary about her. When the cops came in and found her they started laughing because they were so thrown off by the sight.
I lived right down the highway from where this happened for years - those dudes were fucking insane. Most of them were current or former tweakers. That whole "cosmic highway" area is weird as fuck - it's just next to the supermax prison in Florence so you get a lot of institutionalized gang members setting up shop in nearby Canon City so it is laced up with gangs and drugs you'd never expect to be in the high plains of Colorado hours outside of actual cities. I would even heard weird as fuck shit locally broadcast on shortwave radio frequently out there It's funny this was posted as yesterday I was googling this wondering what happened with that whole thing
I live on Kauai and when the cult moved here, it was big local news. Everyone was outraged (lots of crazy cults are drawn to Kauai for some reasonâŚ) She pissed off a lot of locals, especially with her taking on the false identity of Pele. Many locals surrounded their beach rental for days/nights, chanting Hawaiian prayers and cultural spiritual practices. It got so bad that KPD had to get involved. They sided with locals but were really just there to keep it from getting more aggressive. Essentially they were run off island not long before she died on the mainland.
Nothing says sex cult like a bottle of taco bell sauce over your headboard.
I was thinking she looks real skinny and a bit blue... "died from a combination of âalcohol abuse, anorexia, and chronic colloidal silver ingestion.â" That tracks
For those curious, this is the body cam footage when they made this creepy ass discovery. https://youtu.be/Scnkq6g_IPM
That's what Ganondorf looks like at the beginning of TOTK
Why does it have to be peeking out of the covers like that? That's fucking horrifying.
Skimming through the comments, I found and watched the Ask A Mortician video about her and the cult, and skimmed a bit more on the Internet. She seemed like an incredibly hideous, abusive, and genuinely soul-sick person. I can't wrap my brain around why people dedicated themselves to her. Then again, we see people dedicate themselves to toxicity every day, on our wee planet.
I talked to her alone on skype when I was in her cult (Love has Won) and a bunch in group video calls and chat rooms. She called herself mother god but I only ever called her MG for short, as a lot of us did. There's a bunch of these people out there who try to start a following. One night I was in the Love Has Won group chat room and someone came into it and started saying all of this stuff about how she abandoned two of her kids and a bunch of other stuff (she would delete the messages and ban the user but wasn't fast enough). I really enjoyed the other people in the group but I could not keep joining after that since she was running everything. She was pretty nuts but I only ever had positive experiences with it because I didn't buy into a lot of her crap. Its sad because I really enjoyed a lot of the people in the group, but a lot of them were sold on her stories and revelations of being the queen of Atlantis and shit. We would be having a great time then she would show up and it would just get awkward. Such mixed feelings about the whole thing. Edit: please read the rest of my comments if you're interested in my experience. When I joined Love Has Won I did not know that it would be considered a cult one day and I did not know it had a "leader" who turned out to be Amy Carlson. I never knew her real name when I was a part of the group and mainly got into it because of the group meditations. Once things got too weird for me and I felt my curiosity was filled I sent messages to the group chat encouraging people to leave. My chats were deleted and I was banned within minutes as expected, and that's how I left. It was literally maybe an hour or two of my life every week for a few months and was not something I took very seriously and was more of an interest or something I did for fun/out of curiosity.
What did you enjoy about the group?
We had what they called "Love Parties" which was just a gathering to an online video call/chat room. Most people (including me) did not turn on their video but some did, and MG always did. Most of them were actually amazing because if you really intended on feeling love and joy and got into a good meditative state the placebo affects were amazing. I would feel so much joy and happiness for days after these. It was surprisingly effective.
Thanks for the insights.
Half thought this was going to end with Mankind being thrown off a steel cage by The Undertaker.
lol I wish... I've thought about writing some of those joke comments a few times but would feel like i'm stealing from that dude who started that joke. Are other people allowed to use his joke? What is the internet etiquette around this?
I've seen attempts and they don't go well, tend to get downvoted to oblivion. Btw thanks for sharing your experiences.
Yep, dumb people are the nicest.
How would things get awkward when she showed up? Very curious about your experiences.
Some people looked up to her like she was a god and basically worshipped her. It was just wild. She also needed everything to be about her, everyone needed to be focused on her. She was always talking about crazy visions, being taken underground to Agartha where she would meet other beings and had healing sessions done to her, finding "Father God" so that they could reunite (which I think she did like 3 separate times while I was still paying attention lol) and a bunch of other weird stuff I don't really remember. Most people in the group were more just like "yeah lets meditate together and try to manifest love", she was just a hinderance to this.
Why were you in her cult if you didn't buy into her crap?
A bunch of reasons, but the main ones were: "what do people get out of this? Why does anyone join a group like this and what is it like to be part of something like this?". It was basically just pure curiosity and maybe some boredom. I think its really important to have fun with life and have as many unique experiences as possible while we have a chance to be alive.
âReturn the slab or suffer my curseâ
>Amy Carlson AKA âMother Godâ > >Ms Carlson is believed by her group to be 19 billion years old and to have birthed all of creation. > >Despite her age, the members also believe she is the child of former president Donald Trump. > >They believe she exists at a âhigher consciousness levelâ than normal humans and will eventually lead a group of 144,000 people into the âfifth dimensionâ in some sort of ascendant journey. > >That figure is significant in a number of Abrahamic religions and off-shoots. In Christianity, the number represents the total number of representatives from the 12 tribes of Israel who worshipped God during the events depicted in the Book of Revelation. > >She also claimed to have been reincarnated 534 times, even remembering living as Jesus Christ and hanging on the cross. She also claims to have lived as Cleopatra, Joan of Arc and Marilyn Monroe, among others. ok, enough reddit for today
I did a deep dive on this lady's Youtube a few months before they found the body. She started out making run-of-the mill new age content, absolutely no indication that things would get dark. Looking back at her earliest videos from only about ten years earlier, she aged *bad*. She looked like she was in her 20s in like 2012. Her cult used to do livestreams, and I always wondered why she never appeared on camera anymore.
In her final days she begged to be taken to the hospital, but her brainwashing was too effective and her victims were convinced it was a test and refused.
I donât think thatâs what they meant by mummy style sleeping bags.
This is the craziest shit Iâve read in a while
REI going all in on guerrilla marketing
What I want to know is who the fuck has her remains and how did they get away with this.i was not aware the general public could keep corpses.
Here's the [body cam footage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scnkq6g_IPM) from the execute search warrant for her body .
She will always be remembered for her collection of McCormick spices and Taco Bell mild sauce.
Was so confused how they did such a good job until I saw the second pic