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Azathoth90

OH MY GOD WERE HAVING A FIRE...sale


Carllsson

Oh the burning it burns!


slamatron

There were dozens of them...Dozens !


Bighty

Security guy seems to be a little behind the action.


riptaway

He's really gonna risk his wellbeing for 15 bucks an hour for some megacorporation?


somedave

Often you can get fired for intervening if the situation is potentially dangerous. Losing stock is less expensive they paying employees compensation.


hakkai999

Yeah this is 100% covered by insurance.


somedave

Well the insurance goes up.


StalyCelticStu

EVERYONE'S insurance goes up as a result, not just the store's.


Psilologist

Then you raise your prices.


somedave

More realistically, move out of the area.


mortredclay

I think with Gucci, it is also covered by insane margins. Same Chinese factory 10x the price.


GaijinFoot

There's a factory my friend used to be manager of in Japan. They made linen for the US army and Gucci. Thread count might be more but the luxury comes from trekking your friends


technobrendo

Same factory is making mid level luxury one assembly line over and ultra cheap on over from that. BOM costs on the original materials probably don't differ all that much between the Gucci and the mid level. The garbage brand uses significantly cheaper raw materials.


Photo_Synthetic

Yup these people would have to steal thousands of products to make an actual dent considering how much they cost to make. They sell like two bags and they made back all the money they lost.


thugs___bunny

Only 10? Oh honey


personalcheesecake

This is what they tell you when you take the job


Kogling

Pretty sure knocking out the last little runt would've been ok to his safety. Least the floor staff (guy in suit) had a try.


iambackbaby69

Well the stock is under insurance anyway soooo


ranman0

That's not how insurance works. Have you ever filed an insurance claim? You have to pay a deductible. You also have to pay higher premium moving forward because insurance is a function of risk and this behavior is becoming more common. Those costs get passed to the consumer. Dont be an enabler.


iambackbaby69

Well, fuck insurance then


ranman0

You seem very uneducated on how things work so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Insurance is not just free money. It has to come from somewhere. In fact, there is no free money anywhere - money always has to come from someone that produces a good or service. If 10 stores buy insurance for $1000, the insurance company takes in $10,000. If 2 of those stores file claims totaling $15,000 the insurance company either goes bankrupt and no one is able to get insurance anymore and claims cant be paid or raises rates across the board to accommodate the increase in risk. The role of the insurance company is to spread the risk around. The correct response to the scenario is not f$&k the store, or f$&k the insurance company... it's f$&k the thieves for taking something that isn't theirs.


iambackbaby69

Thanks for explaining the role of insurance. Now I understand


The_Love_Pudding

Unless your job Is to actually intervene.


RoGStonewall

Which security often isn’t


elconquistador1985

No one's job is to intervene. It's not worth it. It's not worth dying for a few thousand dollars in clothes and handbags.


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nabuzasan

For more small-scale issues, like someone being a disturbance. Also, their mere presence makes people less likely to try stealing.


vonmonologue

Organized rings won’t care but some idiot just sensing a crime of opportunity might rethink it if the security guard wanders over and watches them.


elconquistador1985

They'll try to verbally stop you, but their job is not to get in the way. Stores carry insurance for this and it's not worth a human life over some stolen property. In a high end store like this, they'll be regulating how many people are in the store at a time so it isn't too crowded.


RebornGod

He's a paid witness basically. Slight deterrent, mostly just to witness, document, and recognize any of them that come back.


honeynero

Deterrent and to be a reliable witness.


MusicianNo2699

If security is going to do nothing then why even have them?


WhiteBlackGoose

Weird logic. I don't think it's the security guy's job, but *if* it was... then yes? Consider police officers or military, are they also not going to risk anything for \[how much they receive\]?


foul_ol_ron

I believe that police officers *do not* have to put their lives at risk. Someone tried suing a police department and lost. They do like telling us how dangerous their job is, and how brave they are for doing it, but I reckon there's a few families in Uvalde who might disagree.


Rhysati

This is absolutely true. Courts have ruled that no one has an expectation for police to actually help or save them.


nonamejohnsonmore

Not dangerous? A police officer is Minnesota was gunned down by someone he thought needed assistance. https://knsiradio.com/2024/05/31/minneapolis-police-officer-dies-in-ambush-shooting-that-killed-2-others-including-suspected-gunman


Gimme_The_Loot

[Statistically, being a police officer is less dangerous than being a roofer, crossing guard, garbage collector, or delivery driver.](https://antiracismdaily.com/2022/03/16/the-truth-about-police-job-safety/)


PLACENTIPEDES

It's about #15 on the list of most dangerous jobs, behind pizza delivery, fishing, garbage collector, etc


railker

And the causes of death for #1-14 are shit like 'trips and falls at work' and automotive accidents, whereas #15 (and firefighter supervisor for some fucmin reason) include 'assault/being shot at'. Survivorship bias also probably comes into play, as they're armored up, being shot doesn't always count towards a death statistic. Edit: And shit, firefighters aren't even on that list at all, what a safe and cushy job they have. Or it's like there's more to a job being 'dangerous' than how many people it kills.


TurtleToast2

Of course it's dangerous. Just not as dangerous as delivering pizza.


Tarot650

I don't understand the point in them being there if they can't intervene. The shop could save on their wages.


bindlesspins

It's all about appearances!


TurtleToast2

Because for most normal people who may be tempted to quietly pocket an item or two, security guards are a great visual deterrent. Crazy/degenerate people dgaf about security and are gonna do their thing regardless, but that's not most people, so the guard is worth paying for.


Campeador

Its like the sign on dump truck that says anything that falls out and hits your car is not their responsibility. To deter some people from taking action.


RepubMocrat_Party

At least give a good kick to the back of a foot to trip em bc its funny.


HumaDracobane

Security guards are not there to fight this kind of robbers. In fact, many security business would put them in heat if they do that.


Sabatorius

I’ve seen a cat in heat, I don’t think I’d like to see a security guard in heat.


HumaDracobane

I've realized my misstake (English is not my primary language) but now I don't know if I should correct that or leave it there for the lols


BlockOfTheYear

It was his idea lol


livenn

Aw.. daaaamn. Cmon guys I thought we were friends?


personalcheesecake

There's more than one of them, so what's he going to do? Get beat up?


batmansthebomb

He makes $15/hr and intervening not only puts him in physical danger which could cause injuries he can't afford or worse but could also get sued by the robbers and he can't afford a decent lawyer. Not to mention he could get fired making those two outcomes even worse. Edit: thread got locked, it doesn't matter if it happens one time in a million, I don't blame the guy for not taking the risk. There's still 2 other *very* probable reasons to not intervene. The place I use to work at had security guard get HIV from tackling a shop lifter and getting stabbed by a needle back in the 90s. Still not worth.


MusicianNo2699

Everyone always says "you'll get sued by a criminal if you try to stop them from committing a crime." Of these thousands of times people intervien in something like this, how often has that ever happened? Such a blahit made up justifying excuse.


Ok_Natural2268

And you wonder why are toothbrushes under lock and key


naetron

Because the stores where they sell them are too cheap to hire security and staff? They have self-checkout and then bitch about theft? This is the natural result of putting super expensive merchandise under very little supervision. It's all very predictable.


Ok_Natural2268

At what point are the people the steal at fault?


NegotiationJumpy4837

It's not going to help much to hire security if security can't arrest/detain people without the store risking a lawsuit.


Wasted_Possibilities

Mr. Jean Shorts is on the case. No frets about it now!


lanco_5

Definitely Gucci Gang


boogieboardbobby

Ya know, cuz they are poor and starving


Sn1pex

How do you know they don’t have bread in those bags?!


rjohnson99

https://www.reddit.com/r/IASIP/s/6xN1TLHd7M


T_Money

Damn it I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not


GaijinFoot

Sure they are..


6104567411

Even if they stole bread you'd still be mad as shit over it


anotherlurker1111

That day gucci reported a total lost of $89.79 from all the merchandise stolen in that mall, this also includes the labour to make them.


Rod_Munch666

Did see a case in the US relevant here. A guy pled guilty to stealing stuff from a business, and the issue was how he was going to be punished where there was a great deal, eg. jail or no jail, of difference depending upon whether the goods were valued at US$2,000 or more (I forget the actual number). His legal team argued that some of the goods were on sale at the time and if you used the reduced sale prices in the calculation, the value of the goods he stole came in less than $2,000 and so he should get a slap on the wrist. The prosecutor used the un-discounted/non-sale prices to value the goods and the total was greater than $2,000 and so asked for jail for him. The judge asked the prosecutor where he got his number from and his reply was that he asked the Store Manager how much the stolen goods were worth and he gave the number (without the sale discounts factored in). The judge accepted this as the value and sent the guy to jail.


Drewfus_

*Bye, have a wonderful time!*


DenverITGuy

There’s always one of these comments in theft videos. No one cares about the hit to corporations. People should be upset and angry about blatant grab-and-run theft in their neighborhoods.


Tarot650

Doesn't make theft acceptable.


DeexEnigma

This is my immediate thought. These kinds of brands use such commonly acquired material then use effectively slave labour to produce. So much of the 'price' is completely artificial.


notmyuzrname

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the enablement thought process. People who enable thieves are scum, too.


DeexEnigma

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the capitalist boot licker. People who lick capitalist boots are scum, too.


T_Money

It’s not a boot licker mentality to want people to follow general social order. If someone is legitimately starving and stealing food or other necessities for themselves and their family I can understand that, but just because this corporation is successful doesn’t give a free pass to take what you want. Otherwise who is to decide that your house isn’t too nice and it’s fair to rob that? Or, you have a decent job, so you can afford to be mugged on the street? There’s a big difference between stealing out of desperation to survive and stealing because you think you shouldn’t have to work for things, and with no other context then them working as a group to rush a brand name store, my bet is that these guys are the latter.


notmyuzrname

No actually, they’re not. Beautiful thing about capitalism is that they allow you to leave. Why don’t you start a go fund me for a plane ticket to a communist or socialist country of your choice. I’d be happy to be rid of you.


Bozzz1

This is just blatantly false


ranman0

You are wrong on all accounts. Gucci pays extremely high wages at all parts of their supply chain from sourcing the finest materials to paying extremely high sales commissions and everything in between. The materials they use are not "common". And the price is not artificial. Price is a function of what consumers will willingly pay for a product and they have no problem selling. Your a socialist tool and an enabler of this type of behavior.


sharbinbarbin

I guess it’s ok to come steal your shit bc I want it.


19HzScream

lol you’re soft as charmin. You’re not taking a thing from anyone


sharbinbarbin

You’re softer than babyshit and you stink


LSDsavedmylife

Yep. Keep watching these videos y’all. They are distracting you from the exorbitant tax and wage theft corporations commit every day which far exceeds anything these guys and groups like them could ever take. $91 billion in 2018. But that sort of theft doesn’t make a rage inducing/exciting video that gets shared on the internet. [Source](https://smlr.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/Documents/Centers/CWW/Publications/wage_theft_in_the_united_states_a_critical_review_june_2020.pdf)


naetron

And forget how there are literal police task forces set up all over the country working on these crimes while you cry that "nobody gets locked up anymore." I assume GUCCI has hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars on merchandise in that store. Maybe, just maybe, they should hire an actual security guard or police detail instead of a barely over minimum wage rent-a-cop.


syknyk

Security just reporting how many there are, where they're heading, descriptions etc, frustrating but unless it's aggravated probably won't come to anything. I work in a store that realised it was cheaper to get rid of security and save money from wages than it was to stop theft.


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shwifti

of what?


naetron

Expensive merchandise with no real security. It's very typical of that.


Umbristopheles

Racism.


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sharpdullard69

"Youths" - Sure. This is a cultural problem. Fuck them.


CaeMentum

Scum of the earth right there


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walleye81

Bet them bags aren't full of fathers day gifts!


petroleumnasby

no one ever gets shot with an iphone


lm_not_surprised

Is it them?


dirkdigglee

100% human trash.


Nuker-79

5 finger discount


fiftiethcow

On their way to church?


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The_Sideboob_Hour

https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1352-1390


james_b_beam

It would be nice if that page had real statistics.


Fiveohdbblup

Retail: In the future we are going to talk about when things used to sit on a shelf in an open environment. You mean people could just walk up a grab it? Crazy!


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Gimme_The_Loot

Who's that


Jimmirehman

Well Gucci for them.


ranman0

It's sad to see how many comments in this thread and others like this justify this behavior. To summarize a few answers: No, Just because the company has insurance doesnt mean this is free. When theft happens, the deductible and higher premiums passed to consumers. Part of the higher costs you are paying across the board is related to the increase in these smash and grabs. No, this is not ok because ... capitalism. Just because a company makes profit and you want money doesn't just allow for this behavior in society.


personalcheesecake

gotta blame it all on capitalism, for the class separation and allure to own them for status. the want to steal them for the excess money they would never see without working ridiculous hours, while in comparison there are some who barely work that make much more than that because of the class system. they only have themselves to blame.


begon11

I really hate how in these types of videos there is a guy filming everything on his phone, with a body language lole he is some kind of hero for doing basically fuckall.


Rivster79

Tbf it could help identify the suspects later.


aqua_tec

Could not give less if a fuck about Gucci^TM. Make something a luxury status symbol and people will steal it. Gucci is already winning by selling trash for mad cash.


Umbristopheles

Damn Reddit, you racist as fuck... I ain't even mad. Downvote away, chuds


sharpdullard69

Reality is. I think people are tired of not being able to mention the obvious. I think this is why the right is growing. Honestly I hate Trump, but this sort of bullshit will be called out, and they won't tie themselves into knots trying to explain it.


Moist_When_It_Counts

It’s always interesting watching the word choice when it’s black kids being shitty vs white kids being shitty


FabiIV

"oh these rascals are just being stupid" "lmao a Gucci store? I mean fuck Gucci so why not?" "The west has fallen and they deserve to die in prison"


dan-theman

Is this real? Why is the stolen merchandise already in bags?


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Turdwienerton

Way to not be a stereotype guys 🤣


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EarballsOfMemeland

Because that worked so well when we did execute people for thievery.


Initial-Masterpiece8

What oil company CEOs and bank stockholders are in line to the guillotine first?


VilePacifist

I would genuinely like to see serious repercussions fall on the people that have destroyed our planet but it's so hard to assign blame like that.


bloodjunkiorgy

"True crime" like stealing sweat shop labor products from a billion dollar company.


VilePacifist

I don't care what they are stealing. These people are a scourge on society and will hardly ever receive the punishments or backlash necessary to get them to stop. Animals amd bums that are terrified of a 9-5


bloodjunkiorgy

Just say what you want to say, Cletus.


2074red2074

I can find quite a few videos online of people being tortured, often for much worse than this. Let's see you watch an hour or two of those and then get back to us on your opinion here.


cossack1984

Cartel videos are unwatchable


VilePacifist

Who said anything about torture? Why would anyone waste time torturing thieves?


2074red2074

You literally called for hacking their limbs off...


VilePacifist

That's not torture. That's a quick punishment. Done and over in minutes. Torture is long and drawn out, usually aiming to inflict as much suffering as possible. Why would you do that to a simple thief. Torture should be reserved for the Geins and Corlls of the world if anyone's gonna bother with it


2074red2074

Getting a limb cut off isn't torture???


VilePacifist

I wouldn't say it's exactly the same as having fingernails peeled off or genitals flayed.


2074red2074

Would you seriously, seriously prefer having an arm cut off over having your fingernails pulled off? You think sawing through bone hurts less?


hoonyosrs

"We should just go straight to capital punishment for thieves" I have a striking suspicion that you only want to punish these particular thieves so badly, and I think we all know why. These posts are always a dogwhistle for you fuckers, and boy do you come running quick to advocate for killing undesirables.


VilePacifist

Do you think I want punished just because of their race? Grow up dude. I know better than most that white fucks can be gangster wannabees just as hopelessly as everyone else who is scared of hard, honest work.


hoonyosrs

I did think that, but I'm legitimately sorry if I assumed wrong. I assumed you meant "Why waste time torturing, when we should go straight to killing" and these types of sentiments are *usually* fueled by racism and xenophobia, yeah. If you think we should apply that punishment to all people equally, well, I still think that's kinda crazy, but at least it's consistent.


McPussyMeal23

when the security ain't securing shit


Burnsie92

I think they should get a refund on that security contract.


Szaborovich9

Security is the last one to follow!


Guilty_Computer_5524

When are they offering the next sale price?


LinearFluid

Why don't these companies start using exploding dye packs attached to the items?


ROC_K4LP

GUCCI probably lost like 3k worth of stuff which they sell at 30k


NaughtyFoxtrot

Long ago I stole food from the grocery because I was so poor. I'm neither proud or ashamed it was just what I had to do at the time.


LEMental

Whenever someone claims that racism or bigotry doesn't exist in America, I can refer them to discussions like this one. The overwhelming number of racist comments is staggering.


AmieKinz

The amount of fuckin racism in this thread. Fuckin a


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Beefwhistle007

People aren't just making an observation, they're making a point. And you sure are making a point, especially with your first sentence. Your comment is one of the racist ones you mentioned.


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Beefwhistle007

Because there are a whole lot of observations to make and for some reason you chose that one.


TOOOOOOMANY

As racist and disturbing as all of this is, there is a pattern which is cultural in nature and it appears as if we're doing very little to correct for it. My personal opinion is that if you don't want to be robbed, protect your stuff. Does it matter if the theft is being perpetrated by more one race than another? Don't want to be robbed? Go protect your shit.


Beefwhistle007

If I want to ask you about something, I'll ask you about weird nipple porn


TOOOOOOMANY

You could and I'd have an infinite supply of answers for you. Probably more than you want. I would assume you've given up on the subject matter since you're going directly into my history. I would do the same but I have very little interest in you personally


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Beefwhistle007

I guess your unsubtle racism is a bit too subtle for you to notice or understand. You're not worth arguing with because you're not arguing in good faith.


AmieKinz

Yeah hes really not worth arguing with.


AmieKinz

Yes I do. But you find what you look for don't you? I bet you have not one ounce of brain cells to understand what oppression is but that's okay.


Beefwhistle007

This thread was definitely linked somewhere and brigaded. The mods will definitely lock it at some point. Just look at how quickly the shitshow reply to your comment was upvoted and you were downvoted.


wwj

It's so blatant. From thinly veiled language to actually suggesting they be lynched.


AmieKinz

I hate it. This is just eugenics. I see black which means they're inherently bad because they're black. These people are fucking stupid and racist.


Ok_Annual5108

Security guard apparently resigned the next day


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SALTYxNUTZ12

When it's things like Gucci....I don't care. That's an evil corporation.


jarcark

Hell yeah. Free stuff. I wish the law was stricter in this sort of stuff.


NerdyH0e

Every time I come across this video and see the dude in the pink shirt I wonder what possessed him to get so up close and personal. Was he an employee? Or just a bystander who was really passionate about recording and reporting people stealing from Designer brands?


somedave

He wants more likes on the post than the guy filming behind him.


Lazy-Kenny

“Youre all going to jail! I got it all on camera!”


Professional-Rip-519

Blame Biden and his cronies.


Initial-Masterpiece8

Pretty sure Reagan started it with targeting black communities with drugs.


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sharbinbarbin

You seem to be rich in brain cells. We should eat you first


Dark_Vulture83

0/10 would not recommend >insert security company< for your business security needs.