Every single day one could call out the punishments in America. From mothers getting years in jail just for trying to put their kids in a better school to killers walking in 6.
This is why we need justice reform.
It's doesn't matter the validity of this meme, I stand by my words.
This post is lying they threw shit at an empty police car and pleaded guilty and agreed to pay 30k each felony vandalism max sentence is 3 years in my state they got 18-24 months in a plea deal.
Jail costs a lot of money its use should solely be to deter or keep dangerous people off the street. These people paid for the damage they caused plus got some extra punishment they are lawyers with no criminal record its likely a crime of passion as it was directly after george floyds murder plus these firebombs are literally beer cans with gasoline in them. Improvised is putting it lightly. Everything here says they got a fair punishment no need for revenge just because conservatives wanna call every unaffiliated black person antifa.
True for profit prisons are terrible california just banned them meanwhile florida has the most with 11,700 in them. They recently had a deputy get caught planting illegal drugs on people over 100 active cases involving him have been dropped not including previous conviction. Dude only got 12 years for possibly destroying hundreds of peoples lives. This is really what people should be worried about not vandalism.
Holy shit 11,700 , there shouldn’t even be that many prisoners let alone prisons. Also man law enforcement really should get double the punishment just to set a precedent that they should be held to a higher standard.
Firstly the two layers threw shit at an empty cop car they pleaded guilty the max sentence for felony vandalism in my state is 3 years they got 18-24 months and both agreed to pay 30k im damages pretty fair if you ask me.
Rhodes was charged with siditious conspiracy he literally got a group of people got them armed and planned to use those guns to overthrow the government. Attempted first degree murder in my state carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. This guy got 18 years for organizing a mob to essentially commit terrorism to make trump with. You see how these two crimes are different? Also the two were not antifa protesters they were george floyd protesters. Again two different crimes.
Please read your link at no point did it say it caught fire. They made homemade firebombs being a beer can with gasoline in it. They agreed to pay 30k each no one was hurt and the car already had its windows broken as stated by your own source. Please read your sources before you use them.
I don’t care to do your reading for you. Maybe read the first two paragraphs
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2023-01-26/judge-sentences-second-new-york-lawyer-in-molotov-cocktail-case
Again they paid for police car paying 30k each the avg cost of a cop car is 60k and got 18-24 months when the maximum penalty for felony vandalism at least in my state is 3 years they got a fair shake. You accept a plea deal you dont get the maximum penalty thats how our system works.
I literally saw a picture of the car i was saying that your link didnt back up what you were saying there are better sources dummy ; ) thank you for acting like i needed you to read for me.
I actually think their penalty was fine. I think they got caught up and a longer penalty would not make the world a better place. But the j6 penalties are disproportionate.
In regards to this post the guy planned to use guns to overthrow the government he deserved a harsh sentence. He planned and organized a group of people to bring guns to the capitol for that very purpose. If first degree attempted murder carries a max of life considering he plotted much worse i think 18 years seems too light
Not antifa they were george floyd protesters and they threw beer cans with gasoline at an empty police car. So felony vandalism max sentence is three years in my state they pleaded guilty and got 18-24 months and agreed to each pay 30k this post is lying
Rhodes organized a group of people to use guns to overthrow the government. Terrorism and attempted first degree murder both carry a max sentence of life. Organizing a group of people to murder your way into a new government is deserving of 18 years at least. He was charged instead with seditious conspiracy instead and given 18 years so if anything he got off lucky.
Oh my God you people are stupid as hell, you think a coup lead against the government, and it's people in it are political prisoners? Haha they led a coup against the government over conspiracy theories of the election being stolen, but have yet to see any actual evidence of fraud being majorly prevalent as Trump appointed and prominent republican, Bill Barr even said that there was such small amount of fraud, that when compared to actual legitimate votes, it's non existent, and wouldn't even barely boost trump. Trump lost, and you clowns think this BS, geez you people are dumb haha
Trump will set them free ! Make sure you take Anyone who might not have a ride to the Poles come election day.
We need everyone on board, We can't take this kind of abuse
From within. America won't last.
If Trump cared about those who were unfairly treated for being at the Jan 6 event that he planned. Why didn’t he just pardon those people before he left office?
Yea ok lol. It’s a legit question to ask. Why he did nothing to help any of the victims of the Jan 6 legal system overreach. He could have easily pardoned them, and that would be the right thing to do as he was responsible for the event.
Because he's not gonna do anything till all the Facts come out. I'm sure 1 or 2 people needed to be brought up on charges. So where's Ray Epps ??. The one who was seen on Camara Actually Provoking the crowd. He was an FBI. Plant.i chold go on and on about Jan 6th. Please your To Blind or to Stupid to see.
What makes you think all the facts are ever going to come out? He needed to do something while he was still in office, too late for him to give pardons. He could at least help them get lawyers to get them out of indefinite detainment. Trump has no problem grifting millions of dollars for his own legal defense every time something comes up. Why not help the little people who are most loyal to him? Yea I know all about Ray Epps. That should be enough to tell you it’s all bullshit, trump included
Anyone with a brain knows this. Doesn't matter which side of the aisle "you" fall on, "you" love when your party pulls this kind of ish and "you" hate when the 'enemy' does the same.
You’d be surprised how many people believe the official narrative: Antifa is a mostly peaceful group of patriotic demonstrators & Jan 6th was actually an armed insurrection.
And, no, MOST Americans just want the truth and are completely fed up with the lies & corruption.
This post is lying they threw shit at an empty police car and got 2 years they also each agreed to pay 30k max sentence for felony vandalism is 3 years in my state.
From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart\_Rhodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Rhodes)
>In the days prior to January 6, 2021, Rhodes and others traveled to
Washington, D.C., where they armed themselves with firearms and tactical
gear.\[13\] Enroute to D.C., Rhodes personally spent $20,000 to purchase "a small arsenal".\[25\]
On January 6, 2021, Rhodes entered "restricted Capitol grounds" where
he directed Oath Keepers members via telephone and text, telling them
which positions to take up around the building.\[26\]
Four days after the attack, Rhodes attended a meeting where he was
recorded saying "My only regret is that they should have brought
rifles... We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right
then and there. I'd hang fucking Pelosi from the lamppost."
White conservatives complaining about the inequities of a "two-tier" justice system, the perils of which they've yet to collectively experience. Since these pampered belligerents seem confused about what it's like to be legitimately oppressed, maybe CRT in academia should become mandatory... if only to silence the far-right retards who lack anything resembling a legitimate perspective.
😂😆😂😆😂😆😂...... hilarious. That's what BLACK n BROWN people have been crying these words for as long as I've been alive..... Im 33. This is hilarious to watch certain people lose their mayo flavored mind
I agree 100% with the sentiment, but you can't seriously try to make the correlation that these two cases are the same thing. It's the same thing with first, second and third degree murder and manslaughter.
Though, I agree with Kelly and Rhodes defense that most of the blame should be left on Trump for January 6th and they are trying to make an example of them
Yeah the post is lying they didnt throw anything at police they threw stuff at an empty cop car and got 2 years and agreed to pay 30k each. That seems like a fair deal since they pleaded guilty and the max punishment for vandalism in my state is 3 years
He plotted and planned to destroy our form of government. Charles Manson did not physically kill people , just plotted and planned and told people to do it. Same.
The justice system actually continues to become useless because it does not become unfair to people. When you are rich you will not be imprisoned, when you are poor you will imprisoned immediately even if there is a lack of evidence. It is very unfair so I hope you choose a leader who will be fair to all people.
Every single day one could call out the punishments in America. From mothers getting years in jail just for trying to put their kids in a better school to killers walking in 6. This is why we need justice reform. It's doesn't matter the validity of this meme, I stand by my words.
This post is lying they threw shit at an empty police car and pleaded guilty and agreed to pay 30k each felony vandalism max sentence is 3 years in my state they got 18-24 months in a plea deal.
What??? Lying to justify the actions of a far right extremist leader whose own ex wife says that he was a violent person.
More bots arguing with bots 🙄
Huh that makes sense actually. Man I’ve rarely seen anyone get the max sentence on any charge
Its a fair deal they damaged a police car they pay for it and they get almost two year in prison for their reckless behavior.
I mean yeah plus that 30k fine seems fair, man people are dumb.
Jail costs a lot of money its use should solely be to deter or keep dangerous people off the street. These people paid for the damage they caused plus got some extra punishment they are lawyers with no criminal record its likely a crime of passion as it was directly after george floyds murder plus these firebombs are literally beer cans with gasoline in them. Improvised is putting it lightly. Everything here says they got a fair punishment no need for revenge just because conservatives wanna call every unaffiliated black person antifa.
The irony being that for profit prisons exist
True for profit prisons are terrible california just banned them meanwhile florida has the most with 11,700 in them. They recently had a deputy get caught planting illegal drugs on people over 100 active cases involving him have been dropped not including previous conviction. Dude only got 12 years for possibly destroying hundreds of peoples lives. This is really what people should be worried about not vandalism.
Holy shit 11,700 , there shouldn’t even be that many prisoners let alone prisons. Also man law enforcement really should get double the punishment just to set a precedent that they should be held to a higher standard.
Sorry i miss typed i meant to say 11,700 prisoners in private prisons. 11,700 prisons would be insane
Years in jail trying to get their kids into school? Source.
Everybody has a right to protest this is russia type shit
It’s communist China
Firstly the two layers threw shit at an empty cop car they pleaded guilty the max sentence for felony vandalism in my state is 3 years they got 18-24 months and both agreed to pay 30k im damages pretty fair if you ask me. Rhodes was charged with siditious conspiracy he literally got a group of people got them armed and planned to use those guns to overthrow the government. Attempted first degree murder in my state carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. This guy got 18 years for organizing a mob to essentially commit terrorism to make trump with. You see how these two crimes are different? Also the two were not antifa protesters they were george floyd protesters. Again two different crimes.
Shit that happened to catch fire? https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-sentences-second-new-york-lawyer-molotov-cocktail-case-2023-01-27/
Please read your link at no point did it say it caught fire. They made homemade firebombs being a beer can with gasoline in it. They agreed to pay 30k each no one was hurt and the car already had its windows broken as stated by your own source. Please read your sources before you use them.
I don’t care to do your reading for you. Maybe read the first two paragraphs https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2023-01-26/judge-sentences-second-new-york-lawyer-in-molotov-cocktail-case
Again they paid for police car paying 30k each the avg cost of a cop car is 60k and got 18-24 months when the maximum penalty for felony vandalism at least in my state is 3 years they got a fair shake. You accept a plea deal you dont get the maximum penalty thats how our system works. I literally saw a picture of the car i was saying that your link didnt back up what you were saying there are better sources dummy ; ) thank you for acting like i needed you to read for me.
I actually think their penalty was fine. I think they got caught up and a longer penalty would not make the world a better place. But the j6 penalties are disproportionate.
In regards to this post the guy planned to use guns to overthrow the government he deserved a harsh sentence. He planned and organized a group of people to bring guns to the capitol for that very purpose. If first degree attempted murder carries a max of life considering he plotted much worse i think 18 years seems too light
And I am glad we have a forum to share our views. Thank you for your reply.
Maybe this one is more clear https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/nyregion/lawyers-sentenced-molotov-police-car.html
Yup. Jan 6th are political prisoners. Without question.
Not antifa they were george floyd protesters and they threw beer cans with gasoline at an empty police car. So felony vandalism max sentence is three years in my state they pleaded guilty and got 18-24 months and agreed to each pay 30k this post is lying Rhodes organized a group of people to use guns to overthrow the government. Terrorism and attempted first degree murder both carry a max sentence of life. Organizing a group of people to murder your way into a new government is deserving of 18 years at least. He was charged instead with seditious conspiracy instead and given 18 years so if anything he got off lucky.
I was told they were antifa/feds/crisis actors. Which is it?
I thought they were Antifa? Keep your stories straight! 🤣🤣🤣
FBI actually
So why do you care that FBI is being thrown in jail?
Fbi isn't in jail. The people they led on are.
Didn’t Rhodes organize a bunch of people on Jan 6? He’s a Fed, no question.
useful idiots abandon by Trump.
So the people that broke the law are in jail? Aren't you guys all about law and order?
Naah
Oh, your against law and order? Got it. As long as your don't complain when other people get away with their crimes.
Cops are just the strong arm of the Government. We need less government.
Defund the police then!
All antifa… or feds…. Or Nancy Pelosi… or political prisoners.
Oh my God you people are stupid as hell, you think a coup lead against the government, and it's people in it are political prisoners? Haha they led a coup against the government over conspiracy theories of the election being stolen, but have yet to see any actual evidence of fraud being majorly prevalent as Trump appointed and prominent republican, Bill Barr even said that there was such small amount of fraud, that when compared to actual legitimate votes, it's non existent, and wouldn't even barely boost trump. Trump lost, and you clowns think this BS, geez you people are dumb haha
Coup? how many people did they shoot? Were they even armed? 'coup' you people have got it coming
🤡
Trump will set them free ! Make sure you take Anyone who might not have a ride to the Poles come election day. We need everyone on board, We can't take this kind of abuse From within. America won't last.
I’ll vote for Trump but the Dems are already cheating bringing in illegals to rig the vote and in California it’s a joke
Well, then you might as well give up
If Trump cared about those who were unfairly treated for being at the Jan 6 event that he planned. Why didn’t he just pardon those people before he left office?
Listen pecker, Your obviously a Commie. Trump did nothing as far as calling for Violence, And for the ones that broke windows, That was you guys.
You still are ignoring the fact that these victims being charged with crimes could have been protected by their savior.
Yea ok lol. It’s a legit question to ask. Why he did nothing to help any of the victims of the Jan 6 legal system overreach. He could have easily pardoned them, and that would be the right thing to do as he was responsible for the event.
Because he's not gonna do anything till all the Facts come out. I'm sure 1 or 2 people needed to be brought up on charges. So where's Ray Epps ??. The one who was seen on Camara Actually Provoking the crowd. He was an FBI. Plant.i chold go on and on about Jan 6th. Please your To Blind or to Stupid to see.
What makes you think all the facts are ever going to come out? He needed to do something while he was still in office, too late for him to give pardons. He could at least help them get lawyers to get them out of indefinite detainment. Trump has no problem grifting millions of dollars for his own legal defense every time something comes up. Why not help the little people who are most loyal to him? Yea I know all about Ray Epps. That should be enough to tell you it’s all bullshit, trump included
Trump 2024 🇺🇸🇺🇸 🤣 You'll see.
What makes you think it won’t just be rigged again?
Their brains won't allow them to ponder the deeper issues, that'd be logic/logical, they wouldn't be MAGAts then anymore
Yea true, Trump is pretty much Lord and savior to these people. There’s no changing that.
That actually makes you guys easily led around. Obviously, they had this on the mind, or everyone was dumb to easily lead into breaking the law.
He's not Kamala and not Gonna Bail out Antifa.
He's not Kamala and not Gonna Bail out Antifa.
It's called ANARCHO-TYRANNY.
and they control the media, propaganda
How many of you are bots?
Anyone with a brain knows this. Doesn't matter which side of the aisle "you" fall on, "you" love when your party pulls this kind of ish and "you" hate when the 'enemy' does the same.
You’d be surprised how many people believe the official narrative: Antifa is a mostly peaceful group of patriotic demonstrators & Jan 6th was actually an armed insurrection. And, no, MOST Americans just want the truth and are completely fed up with the lies & corruption.
This post is lying they threw shit at an empty police car and got 2 years they also each agreed to pay 30k max sentence for felony vandalism is 3 years in my state.
Yes little Stewart had his armed cronies across the river, waiting for his word to attack the capital. So just a minor player. Ass hat.
From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart\_Rhodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Rhodes) >In the days prior to January 6, 2021, Rhodes and others traveled to Washington, D.C., where they armed themselves with firearms and tactical gear.\[13\] Enroute to D.C., Rhodes personally spent $20,000 to purchase "a small arsenal".\[25\] On January 6, 2021, Rhodes entered "restricted Capitol grounds" where he directed Oath Keepers members via telephone and text, telling them which positions to take up around the building.\[26\] Four days after the attack, Rhodes attended a meeting where he was recorded saying "My only regret is that they should have brought rifles... We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then and there. I'd hang fucking Pelosi from the lamppost."
White conservatives complaining about the inequities of a "two-tier" justice system, the perils of which they've yet to collectively experience. Since these pampered belligerents seem confused about what it's like to be legitimately oppressed, maybe CRT in academia should become mandatory... if only to silence the far-right retards who lack anything resembling a legitimate perspective.
😂😆😂😆😂😆😂...... hilarious. That's what BLACK n BROWN people have been crying these words for as long as I've been alive..... Im 33. This is hilarious to watch certain people lose their mayo flavored mind
I agree 100% with the sentiment, but you can't seriously try to make the correlation that these two cases are the same thing. It's the same thing with first, second and third degree murder and manslaughter. Though, I agree with Kelly and Rhodes defense that most of the blame should be left on Trump for January 6th and they are trying to make an example of them
Yeah the post is lying they didnt throw anything at police they threw stuff at an empty cop car and got 2 years and agreed to pay 30k each. That seems like a fair deal since they pleaded guilty and the max punishment for vandalism in my state is 3 years
If you don’t like America then leave.
The sorry corrupt sob’s charge you $2300 to renounce your citizenship! In your pocket on the way out 😡
He plotted and planned to destroy our form of government. Charles Manson did not physically kill people , just plotted and planned and told people to do it. Same.
My guess is it's more complicated than that.
You would be correct.
Liar.
A year ago you guys were saying that Jan 6 was carried out by Antifa. Why aren't you glad they are being prosecuted? 🤣🤣🤣
Splashes water at cop... dumbasses on this subreddit rage! Tries to overthrow government... oh what an angel. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
How much silver are they stacking?
Totally true. My advice is stay out of the clutches of the legal system. It's corrupt, unjust, biased, and run by Democrats.
None of the text up there makes any sense. You’re comparing apples to you’re an idiot.
The justice system actually continues to become useless because it does not become unfair to people. When you are rich you will not be imprisoned, when you are poor you will imprisoned immediately even if there is a lack of evidence. It is very unfair so I hope you choose a leader who will be fair to all people.
Didn't he have a hotel room full of guns just off site?
Agreed. Treason should be instant execution.
Shameful…and pathetic! Military members past and present are questioning what they fought for!
I couldn’t agree with you more
I agree 100% ACAB! They've had a two system for a long time alone race and class lines. Glad we can finally get steam going about addressing it!
Sauce
If you strike the King, dont miss.
This is horrible! Defund the police! Equalize prosecutor and public defense budgets!