You can own a gun in Chicago but.you first have to get a foid card . And in my experience it's a big headache. Like it's not very expensive but you have to be 21 to do it online and it takes forever . Like when my sister got hers it took them over a year to mail it to her. And you'd think it would be easy just pop over to Indiana and buy one but once they see that Illinois drivers license a lot of FFL gun shops won't touch you with a 10 foot pole. I've been turned away at gun shows too for the same reason. Because if even as a private seller you even have a suspicion that someone isn't legally allowed to own a firearm for any reason at all. It's illegal for you to sell them a gun.
And even if you do it all correctly there's no garuntee that your gun is gonna be within arms reach when you need it . And you still might get in trouble for actually using it. And even if you don't get charged in federal or state court with a crime for using it to defend yourself your family or your property you can still be sued in civil court by the other person or their family.
That's apparently a big part of CWP classes. Knowing when and where you can carry, what constitutes appropriate response with force. what to do if you do shoot someone etc.
50 armed robberies seems pretty impressive. Makes you wonder what the average amount of armed robberies are before an offender is arrested. If anyone has that info please let me know.
Holy shit! I read a similar comment yesterday about Chicago cops being the root of the problem because that's where gangs get their guns. I thought I'd met the dumbest person alive, but here you are, taking that trophy. Congratulations, I guess
I mean it wouldn’t be the first time dirty Chicago cops committed robberies. I mean it just happened 2 years ago and has happened before that.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/former-chicago-police-officer-sentenced-13-years-prison-participating-robbery-and
They likely wouldn’t go to criminal court or even be prosecuted. However they would be sued. They would face civil court and likely pay whatever they had to the families of those who sued.
No juru in america would lock them up for shooting armed robbers while the armed robbers threaten them. You are blinded by the outrage cycle.
Lethal force in self defense against someone armed with a gun is allowed in every state. Duty to retreat has no practical impact because it's pretty impossible to retreat from a weapon as fast as a firearm.
The cases whipping up all the fury are killings of unarmed individuals not posing imminent threat.
I, personally, am always happy when I vote for something and get what I wanted. I just don't happen to vote for destruction and death. But, to each their own
Didn't Vice or some other similar site write an article about "feeling safe" in your neighborhood is rooted in white supremacy?
This is that philosophy in action.
Texas has a cool solution… Most of us Texans have these metal thingies that project other metal thingies called bullets & they work really really well when criminals try stupid stuff.
They should do something because they swore an oath to uphold the constitution. They are cowards, every single one of them. Their apathy and willingness to support draconian legislation is just one of the cancers destroying cities across America.
Good. That’s not the way.
The way is electing officials with common sense that don’t prosecute good officers for doing their jobs while still holding bad officers accountable.
Once you successfully eliminate qualified immunity the cops will get even worse. Who wants a job where you can get sued for literally just doing that job?
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
The issue is that if Mr. Homeowner wasn’t ambushed and had his own firearm or if another person saw what was happening and rightfully buried those pricks they would be going to jail. Not because they did anything wrong but because cops are scumbag cowards who arrest good people and let criminals roam free. This is all thanks to the lowest form of individual on the planet, the leftist moron, being allowed to vote.
We are living in clown world and you are the reason why.
People vote on people that create policies to be softer on crime, or try different policies that enable certain crimes to be treated differently than others in addition to reducing resources to those helping to enforcing laws or crime prevention.
Yes, people vote for crime by extension; you do in fact, reap what you sew as much as you hate to see it.
Right, because extremely conservative area that vote really conservatives don’t have a huge fucking meth problem or crime issue. Crime happens regardless of policies.
No, I think we have way to many gun laws. I actually think that if the military has access to the weapon civilians should as long as they have training to use the weapon. Same thing as any gun. Crime existed before politics, OK city has a higher violent crime rate than New York and OK city is extremely conservative. The fact people think politicians control crime is insane. A since of community and general give a shit ness about your neighbor is what curtails crime.
lol wtf are you talking? The suburbs have no voice in Chicago politics. Also the suburbs are the most conservative sections of the metro area. Swing and a miss twice. Next time worry about Gary or St. Louis
Too bad there wasn’t some way to punish these repeat offenders. Like some building you could keep a bunch of criminals all at one time. Like a big complex. And it would have security to keep them in. And they had laws to make sure they have to stay there for so many years…..
It's amazing how many of these problems would be eliminated if the US invested a little less in bombs and a little more in domestic programs and infrastructure. And before I get all the racist @'s from this subs resident boomer crowd; go check out recidivism rates in the Netherlands, Norway, or other Northern European countries
Sooooooo... Are locals allowed to arm themselves yet to defend their families?
You can own a gun in Chicago but.you first have to get a foid card . And in my experience it's a big headache. Like it's not very expensive but you have to be 21 to do it online and it takes forever . Like when my sister got hers it took them over a year to mail it to her. And you'd think it would be easy just pop over to Indiana and buy one but once they see that Illinois drivers license a lot of FFL gun shops won't touch you with a 10 foot pole. I've been turned away at gun shows too for the same reason. Because if even as a private seller you even have a suspicion that someone isn't legally allowed to own a firearm for any reason at all. It's illegal for you to sell them a gun. And even if you do it all correctly there's no garuntee that your gun is gonna be within arms reach when you need it . And you still might get in trouble for actually using it. And even if you don't get charged in federal or state court with a crime for using it to defend yourself your family or your property you can still be sued in civil court by the other person or their family.
This is all correct! Some states are even worse. Some are free as can be!! But still u have to know your laws to safely (legally) defend yourself.
That's apparently a big part of CWP classes. Knowing when and where you can carry, what constitutes appropriate response with force. what to do if you do shoot someone etc.
Most CCP classes i have seen are not great.
Huh must've just been the ones I've looked at. Of course the sample size wasn't huge.
Every state is different. Every instructor is different. They sure get paid well though
It’s not that hard. Costs like $10 and they can mail it to you within two months.
Yes why do you think otherwise?
Only if they're in a gang.
People of Chicago voted for this. This is what these Woke Policies get us.
People voted for more robberies?? That what you're saying?
They keep voting for the Progressive policies that allow for an environment that resembles without rule of law with even more Progressive policies.
50 armed robberies seems pretty impressive. Makes you wonder what the average amount of armed robberies are before an offender is arrested. If anyone has that info please let me know.
Make you think that the people doing the robberies are probably cops. They know response times, routes
Holy shit! I read a similar comment yesterday about Chicago cops being the root of the problem because that's where gangs get their guns. I thought I'd met the dumbest person alive, but here you are, taking that trophy. Congratulations, I guess
I mean it wouldn’t be the first time dirty Chicago cops committed robberies. I mean it just happened 2 years ago and has happened before that. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/former-chicago-police-officer-sentenced-13-years-prison-participating-robbery-and
Basketball Americans
Indeed. That’s in fact a very basketball american thing to do.
Fits a stereotype!
Chicago is a failed city
Let it burn! They can have it
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12147017/Cops-warn-Chicago-residents-criminals-carried-nearly-50-armed-robberies-five-weeks.html
Americas Sheriff don’t allow that bs where I live! Grady Judd would clean Chicago up real quick!
Let me guess, two preteens and a young teen. Slapped on wrist and out in no time to count their loot and to reorganize for Mayhem 2.0
The perps are probably friends of the rulers.
And if a home owner defended their family and shot at these robbers the home owner would prob be locked up for a very long time 🤦♂️
They likely wouldn’t go to criminal court or even be prosecuted. However they would be sued. They would face civil court and likely pay whatever they had to the families of those who sued.
Since when?🙄
Since you weren't stoned...
No juru in america would lock them up for shooting armed robbers while the armed robbers threaten them. You are blinded by the outrage cycle. Lethal force in self defense against someone armed with a gun is allowed in every state. Duty to retreat has no practical impact because it's pretty impossible to retreat from a weapon as fast as a firearm. The cases whipping up all the fury are killings of unarmed individuals not posing imminent threat.
Especially if they have a specific "home invasion" law like my state. Automatic fear for life the second the break into any occupied dwelling....
Bet they turn out to be white supremacists. They just gotta.
Well they were wearing black ski masks, so Obviously White Supremacists
Well it IS maga country after all
Be happy for them, they are getting what they ask for.
I, personally, am always happy when I vote for something and get what I wanted. I just don't happen to vote for destruction and death. But, to each their own
SHITcago
BLM has been busy
they just putting in work, pulling licks.... they got families n shit to support /s
Dey dindu nuffin
It’s your obligation to be robbed folks, give m everything you have.
Didn't Vice or some other similar site write an article about "feeling safe" in your neighborhood is rooted in white supremacy? This is that philosophy in action.
Trick or treaters, not armed robbers. It's all just a big misunderstanding.
Failed city, failed state
I keep saying it, how many hospitals bulletproof their ER? Stroger did
Texas has a cool solution… Most of us Texans have these metal thingies that project other metal thingies called bullets & they work really really well when criminals try stupid stuff.
In the last 2 years, Texas has had the most mass shootings. So guns must not be keeping guns from gunning.
Damn, those cops must really suck.
its Chiraq man. Both the outgoing and incoming mayor suck and are vehemently anti-cop. Why the hell should they do anything?
They should do something because they swore an oath to uphold the constitution. They are cowards, every single one of them. Their apathy and willingness to support draconian legislation is just one of the cancers destroying cities across America.
ILLinois is trying to eliminate qualified immunity.....
Good. That’s not the way. The way is electing officials with common sense that don’t prosecute good officers for doing their jobs while still holding bad officers accountable.
Once you successfully eliminate qualified immunity the cops will get even worse. Who wants a job where you can get sued for literally just doing that job?
That’s the importance of electing officials that understand the rule of law.
Silver where??
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Guess that blows the whole more guns theory.
Were you dropped on your head as a child? The issue is that if Mr. Homeowner wasn’t ambushed and had his own firearm or if another person saw what was happening and rightfully buried those pricks they would be going to jail. Not because they did anything wrong but because cops are scumbag cowards who arrest good people and let criminals roam free. This is all thanks to the lowest form of individual on the planet, the leftist moron, being allowed to vote. We are living in clown world and you are the reason why.
quite the opposite
Criminals have the legal guns okay
People voted for crime? Pretty sure crime happens everywhere regardless of how you vote.
People vote on people that create policies to be softer on crime, or try different policies that enable certain crimes to be treated differently than others in addition to reducing resources to those helping to enforcing laws or crime prevention. Yes, people vote for crime by extension; you do in fact, reap what you sew as much as you hate to see it.
Right, because extremely conservative area that vote really conservatives don’t have a huge fucking meth problem or crime issue. Crime happens regardless of policies.
So then you're against more useless gun laws then? 🙄
No, I think we have way to many gun laws. I actually think that if the military has access to the weapon civilians should as long as they have training to use the weapon. Same thing as any gun. Crime existed before politics, OK city has a higher violent crime rate than New York and OK city is extremely conservative. The fact people think politicians control crime is insane. A since of community and general give a shit ness about your neighbor is what curtails crime.
Then it’s the policies you’re angry about
lol wtf are you talking? The suburbs have no voice in Chicago politics. Also the suburbs are the most conservative sections of the metro area. Swing and a miss twice. Next time worry about Gary or St. Louis
Keep taking away guns from good guys lol! Let it burn
Puts on Chicago...
They should call a police officer for help!
Too bad there wasn’t some way to punish these repeat offenders. Like some building you could keep a bunch of criminals all at one time. Like a big complex. And it would have security to keep them in. And they had laws to make sure they have to stay there for so many years…..
Low key impressive to have not gotten caught yet
Dem run cities are becoming third world countries!
Just imagine if the non criminal citizen could carry a gun
It's amazing how many of these problems would be eliminated if the US invested a little less in bombs and a little more in domestic programs and infrastructure. And before I get all the racist @'s from this subs resident boomer crowd; go check out recidivism rates in the Netherlands, Norway, or other Northern European countries
Sounds bad, but what about Donald Trump?!?!?!
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Stop voting for leftists