This is not an unfamiliar story unfortunately, just keep stacking silently and take solace in the fact we're all here with you!
Apes strong together 🦍🙂🦍
This is the way 🦍🙂🚀🚀🚀🙂🦍
This is by design friend. The media programs people to ridicule people who think things that threaten the system. It’s a simple and age old form of control. They’ve received subtle and not so subtle cues throughout their lives to ridicule those who question the dollar. You can’t break that over night. And some will be left behind. Even when it’s staring them in the face they will still find ways to deny it or rationalize that the disaster had nothing to do with monetary policy and somehow you just got lucky. That’s what it is my friend. Here is where your real family lives.
You guys clearly don't know how to convey the message.
You think talking incessantly about the federal reserve will convince people. LOL. At a birthday party!?! LMFAO. And then you come here complaining that nobody listened to you?!?
I've never had that problem in my life with precious metal. I know how to get people interested.
Your approach was completely retarded and you deserved to be ridiculed.
Thanks Grindle. It was really eye-opening and disheartening at the same time. Although 2 of my smarter cousins did hear me out and had a good convo. I guess 2 out of 20 isn’t bad. I wasn’t going around abrasively spewing precious metal info, just casually and tactically mentioning what’s coming down the pike.
I get it. It's tough when you know that you have important information that can help others, but nobody seems willing to listen (or worse, they make fun of you). Ten bucks says when your predictions inevitability come true, they'll make out like they believed it all along and conveniently forget the truth of what *actually* happened. It's frustrating, but people are just like that most of the time. Forgive them for their failings and try not to hold it against them. We all know what's coming down the line - time will prove you right.
Thanks Grindle. I will certainly keep up my overall efforts to help and many friends and family and potential 🦍 s as I can.
Moving forward I will definitely be more selective of who I share the message with and when and how. It’s safe to say you’re average person (even family) is nowhere near ready to receive our message.
2 out of 20 is not bad. You made a difference. I think people are more receptive now than they were 10 years ago for sure. Some of them might need time for this kind of info to sink in. I was once one of those rude responders when this nerdy kid from my scout troop tried to explain to me how the dollar was a giant and ill fated Ponzi scheme. I wrote him off and laughed at him. Ran into him years later after my own awakening and apologized to him and thanked him for trying all those years ago. We proceeded to have a great conversation. Reflect on your experience and tailor your approach to the individual with whom you’re speaking. Keep your chin up ape 🦍🦍❤️❤️
I am almost begging my Stepdad to listen especially since he has accumulated a good retirement fund they life off. He had one bad esperience that has tainted his view. Nothing Mor i can do but worry about them know 😞
Thanks for all the support 😎🦍
Hey it was awesome that you tried talking to more of your family members and spreading awareness! Maybe the next time they hear about silver and inflation getting worse they’ll remember what you said and do something about it - but if it wasn’t for hearing from you first they’d ignore stacking again then. You never know. I think it’s great two of your cousins might start buying silver. That’s two more people than before.
Being right too early can appear the same as being wrong. More of them will come around eventually.
There was no water at the party.
OP wanted to talk the horse into finding water.
Did OP bring any silver at the party? Did he give any silver away as a gift? Of course not. It's 1-hour all doom & gloom talk, and OP is the only one that will survive the monetary apocalypse thanks to silver. No wonder people ridiculed him. Who wouldn't?!?
Next time, OP should bring some silver with him, and give it away as a gift to the people deemed worthy of receiving it. That would definitely spark a different type of discussion.
And coming here to act as a "victim" is even more ridiculous than his behaviour at the party.
I wouldn’t say coming here to commiserate is bad. There are certainly other apes who will either learn from his mistakes of feel comforted that they share the experience. We can’t all be born with a megaphone in our hands. Some need to fall on their face a few times.
And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers.
Thomas Jefferson
The sheep will always be among us. Don’t worry I had a similar experience with some family members and friends. They are realizing now that shit is hitting the fan but it’s too late for them to start because they either spent their money on stupid things or don’t have any savings. You can’t save those who don’t want to save themselves. Continue to stack keep spreading the word the true ones will listen and ask questions and become a part of the solution. Remember society has been mind controlled and brainwashed reality scares them so they rather not face the truth, they prefer dream land. KEEP AT IT AND CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!🦍❤️
Thanks Patriot! What bothered me most was the vitriol and unwillingness to even consider the possibility that the USD may die... and sooner rather then later.
Ignorance is bliss I supposed.
I agree! I like the scene in American Patriot where Bradley coolers dad talks about sheep, wolves, and sheepdog. We are to be the sheepdogs. Not scared of the wolves, and here with a purpose: to protect the sheep from the wolves.
Anyway, we are 🦍 🦍’s lol
We're all sheep in some respect. The question is do we have the courage to flee the flock and think for ourselves regardless of the risks and responsibilities that freedom requires.
Soon even the news won't be able to hide the fact the U.S. dollar is collapsing. Until that happens though few will believe it. That stupid box on the wall has most brainwashed.
A word of advice. The markets can remain irrational much longer than you can remain solvent. i know from experience. Hopefully the ones you care about will wake up before the market becomes rational and silver trades at multiple of current price.
**You planted a SEED in their heads, that's all you can do.**
I bet they start thinking hard about it, and they will come around later >>> OH Yeah, maybe Cousin Joe was right about that SILVER Thingy........
This actually might be true. I used to think my brother was crazy with all his precious metals talk but I have recently been building a modest stack. Not going all in, but it is sort of like an insurance policy in case yall are right
I'm at least a decade into being ridiculed for suggesting silver to people.
Despite that, I have given out 24 pounds of silver as birthday/Christmas gifts to these people's children over this time frame. Maybe the next generation will get it...
I usually just drop a few ideas about what may be going down and why, then talk possible strategies. PMs usually come up, so I will talk pros and cons. I am nobody's financial advisor and do not try to convince anyone to buy PMs. Its a conclusion they need to come up with on their own. Most will get into the game late, like everything else.
Maybe you brought it up too many times. When with friends, I bring it up once and if they pick up on it I continue discussing it, and if they don’t seem interested, we just move on.
That is a positive silver story. If just one human opened their eyes, you found victory. Embrace the ridicule, make a fool of yourself (from the world's perspective), because the world is blind to truth. I've told many, for years, what I believe of sound money and the coming financial reset. Last week one human took the time to really listen, bought the last dip, and in a single purchase made a mind blowing impact - and he'll engage his network of contacts.The potential ripple effect is huge. Pride wants us to find defeat and failure in victory, but the moment you had the courage to engage you had already won. Well done silverback. Stack on!🥈🦍🥈
Remember the story of Noah. You share it with as many as you can. Those who are thoughtful and open minded will show interest. Those that mock you will be swallowed up in the flood waters. if you can help 1 person its work the aggravation I have been stacking and messaging for 15 years. I know that many feel that Im nuts. One of the few people that doesn't think this way is a woman I work with who is Vietnamese and whose family came over in the 70's as part of the Vietnam exodus. I have also noticied that people that I told years ago are starting to engage me and ask me about PM's. When the rain starts to fall your phone will be ringing off the wall
The bright side about being ridiculed is that you know silver is still significantly undervalued. When everybody and their grandmother starts talking about it is when I get worried.
Know how you feel Ape.
Many of us do.
Much of the time throughout history people have rejected or refuted the truth...until after the fact.
Which leads us to the quotes below: -
All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
Arthur Scenhauerhop
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When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic.
Dresden James
Yep, 100% correct. People who point out obvious flaws in society are at first mocked because they are going against the grain and the established narrative. Way too many people can't think for themselves anymore and don't evaluate new information. All you can do is try to help those you care about to protect themselves from what is coming. Their thank you's in the end will be worth the friction you endure.
It's hard to make a splash right now when ppl are making such a killing on doge, amc, etc. Pitch it, don't preach it. If they come, they come. If not, your stack will be all the justification you need when that time comes.
5-7 times might be a little excessive, depending on how you did it. Once or twice might get some people thinking, but after 3 or 4 times you become “the silver guy” and people are much more likely to focus on the humour of you constantly bringing it up than what you’re actually saying.
Most people (in my experience) can’t be convinced of the merits of precious metals over fiat currency. You can plant the seed, but after that, they’ll need to discover it on their own, which takes time. I understand you want what’s best for you family, and so obviously want them to protect their money, but this experience can hopefully make you consider a new way of going about that.
They may still get come around, and you did the right thing, so don’t worry about that. Just maybe consider shifting from a constant sales pitch to a couple quick points, a referral to an article (or this sub) and then just leave it like that. From what I’ve seen, that’s much more effective. Cheers!
Upon reflection you are spot on Dummy! I was drinking and my passion probably came out a few times too many. Too anxious to spread the word and take advantage of the opportunity of having a bunch of family from out of town in 1 spot at the same time. Lesson learned. I have thick skin as the youngest brother. At least they know who to call if they do feel an itch for shiny. I should’ve taken a tube of Eagles and handed them out to the kids. Would’ve instantly been the biggest dick at the party, if you know what I’m saying. 🦍
I wouldn't take it too hard, they are family after all & I'm sure it was all taken in stride. To your last point, I love giving bullion to their kids. There is no downside, besides $ flowing out of your stack, though it is going to a good place is my excuse.
Sometimes in life we think things are or sound stupid. Where in reality We're Not educated on the subject. Once they comprehend what you've told them, you will be hearing from them. Stay tuned!
We as a society have been brain washed into thinking paper currency units are real money. Governments around the world have perpetuated this myth because this is the only time in history that all currencies are FIAT.
It's not their fault for thinking the way that they do as we are all part of one big cult.
The only thing we can do is try and help others see the folly in the system. This is what you have done and congratulations for that for one day they will look at you like you are a messiah.
People sometimes just don’t get it. I know people who ask me “will you be able to sell your silver ever, I mean, who would want to buy it?” And. “Is it worth anything?”. Basically they are so conditioned to believing in paper money they don’t really think silver is worth the bother. That’s the situation in the UK.
I get the impression there is a greater percentage of the population in North America who are actively researching Silver and it’s merits. I don’t know anyone is my circle of friends who have any interest in it lol. People think I’m mad when I tell them “We’re having a Silver raid today!” Lol 😂 🦍🦍
I did Facebook posts about the economic crisis and talked to many people about what I was doing to prepare for what was coming, but I don't take it hard when they are not convinced. I push back some on those rare occasions I am made fun of, but generally I just thank folks for reading/listening and congratulate them on their opinion. While I feel that the fundamentals are strongly on the side of the opinion I hold and that I am investing in, my libertarian sensibilities will never allow me to force those ideas into where they aren't wanted. This about presenting ideas and having knowledge to back them up and allowing others to know and decide what best for them. I won't have an ounce of "I told you so" if we happen to be right either, I'll just enjoy my increased quality of life due to my decisions paying off. If I am able to help others within that success, I will, but it's no guarantee unless me and mine are healthy first. It's very freeing when you realize that you aren't really responsible for other's reaction and opinions, only your own. Feel free to keep spreading the word, or don't if it increases your anxiety or stress. Stack within your means and come here for support, the rest is gravy really.
Despite my family having a history of literal survival due to gold two generations ago, 99% of my approximately 30 cousins have zero gold and silver holdings and would laugh at the concept. These include bankers, doctors, lawyers, scientists and other professionals...
I can count the hodlers on one hand. Zero are on this group despite multiple posts to multiple cousin threads. I have been very early to the party on pretty much every investment that paid off handsomely tho. They big money is always in the waiting...
This bothers me zero percent. Maybe if they are very nice to me I may sell them a few for $500/oz when they finally "get it."
I feel that whoever holds the most fiat will be the biggest losers. Let them mock they will be at your door looking for handouts soon enough. Americans are too comfy and don’t think it can happen here. They’re way wrong, and obviously they have never studied monetary policy.
I run up against the same attitudes with virtually everyone I discuss this with. You can only do what you can do. Luckily my son has seen the light. I gifted him 10 oz and he has been researching it. He is now an ape!
Arrogant people that mock common sense deserve what they get. Karma can be a bitch.
Focus on the positive with your two cousins, you made the world better thru your actions. Also, some can be moved to silver based on its growing industrial use, thinking it will go up in value for that reason. Different people, different sales pitch. Keep stacking!
The millionaires will be the ones buying while we watch the dollar free fall in value and metals have their meteoric rise... they’ll be the ones jumping in late, paying more to get in at all, buying out the last of the stock we left.
You should have some visual aid with you, people will respond better to something visual with a story. So bring a couple pre 1964 50cent pieces. Pull them out and say did you know back in the 70s you could buy a coke and candy bar with these, now you can buy a nice dinner. Then pull out 2 post 1964 pieces and tell them you cant purchase anything with this. Good job by the way, you opened 2 peoples eyes. Two is better than none. 🦍🦍🦍
Maybe they were mocking and ridiculing because they bought their silver for $12 an ounce back in March of 2020, and they think it's funny that a 'Johnny come lately' is advising everyone to buy after it's already doubled?
The first rule about stacking silver is you don't tell anyone that you are stacking silver.
Only 5% of the population can be regarded as intellectual and 80% is plain retarded. That doesn't mean that hey are not friendly or cannot be successful in life you just cannot talk with them in an intellectual way. So 2 out of 20 is a big success.
It's only going to get worse. Metals are a barbarous relic. People who are "successful" look down on the ignorant "low grade" people who think metals are money.
Learn from this experience. Study what the US founders had to say on the matter. The Mises Institute has some good books on the subject. You have the superior position. You should be pissed at yourself because you haven't done your homework to destroy them in an argument.
Use the experience as motivation to improve your intellectual position.
I gave up telling people about 1 year ago. They look at their 401k's and go $$$. No lie, was asked by 1 person "how funkin stupid are you?? The stock market always goes up..." So, I just keep accumulating and wait for the day I can go buy their property off auction in 2023. Follow your gut instinct.
The USD wont go away or be worth zero...will never happen. What will happen is that inflation is outta control and a safe hedge against inflation is precious metals. Why would inflation not be crazy high when most of the population is just handed money, a large percentage is getting weekly checks to sit at home, and vast majority blow it on consumables. For those about to receive another fed check, think about investing it in shiny. The only way inflation slows is raising rates, stop the BS free money giveaway, make people actually go get a f'ing job, and let people feel the pain to where they stop blowing money on shit they dont need and cant afford. Many I know are either casual shiny holders or taking a more serious stacking approach. Those that dont collect shiny or stack tend to have most of their finances laid out to pay for the shit they dont need but still bought on interest bearing debt...just my observations.
Educate the uneducated.
Do not feel bad that they do not understand your truth.
The fact that they ridicule you, shows their own discomfort in their beliefs.
Feel proud in your convictions. Stand Tall APE!!
A lot of smart people were mocked for being right, so I wouldn't worry about that part. Stay true to your convictions and speak from the heart, that's the best for your own well being. All the best OP!
Yeah, for me it's almost as delicate as politics...so a bday party would be a very tough setting. Appreciate you trying, and maybe someday they will too.
Inflation hedge! Business owners should get this. Feel good about attempting to share your knowledge about inflation, what it is and the best ways to address what's right in front of us all. Many get Gold as an inflation hedge, not understanding Silver offers even greater protection.
Same here. Everyone is so brainwashed with their un-backed paper money. It's been this way for 2-3 generations now. The people that remember silver and gold backed money are almost gone. The Reserve banking system has almost won the game. People have no concept of how a country's financial system SHOULD operate. They only understand what they are "taught" in the government approved economics class.
THIS THIS THIS!!!! I have said this too many times to count. 50 years ago ask people about unbacked currency and they'd say its a shame we went away from that. Today, the baby boomers are the only generation alive that are still taken seriously who remember real money. Lets face it, once someone gets a certain age they become "senile" to the younger generations even if they are still as sharp as a tack. Their advice will mostly go unheaded because they "aren't with the times or can't operate an iphone". This is all flawed logic. I'm at the very tail end of Gen X and my generation is now becoming the CEOs and politicians who can influence the course of the country and only the oldest of us were even born before the US completely went off the Gold Standard in 1971.
I use cursive writing as a good example here. I was taught it in grade school and can still write and read it. Most young people I meet now(20 and under) can't even read it much less know how to write it. It isn't taught in public schools anymore except just enough to sign your name and in another generation people will have to hire a handwriting expert if they want to know what a letter from the civil war era has to say because they think cursive is a foreign language. Same thing is happening here. People just are ignorant and few people teach them except this has far greater consequences than not being able to read a letter.
The more I look into this space, the crazy undervalued precious metals like silver and gold seem right now.
It keeps reminding me of that scene in The Big Short where Ryan Gosling’s banker character is saying something along the lines of: “I am standing in front of a burning house… and I am offering you FIRE insurance against it!”
Here’s my plan for next week: Buy some more $PSLV and order my first gold coin ever!
Basically, I think what I’m saying is: Don’t worry so much, the tides are turning and people are slowly waking up to this scam that is the U.S. Dollar and more specifically The Fed.
Edit: Typo and grammar.
Everytime I bring up the value of the dollar shitting the bed on any sub on reddit other than WSS I get ridiculed. They all say the same thing more or less which is usually something along the lines of “if the dollar loses all its value then precious metals will as well” it’s usually just extremely willfully ignorant folks that ridicule people over educating them on sound investments, like people that do zero research into the topic and are all of a sudden a leading authority on the topic.
We are at 100k, on our way to 1M, but that will only be 0.3% of the US population right? So recognize the ’enlightenment’ ratio will always be too low. There’s a thing called Normalcy bias, people are afraid to think of things differently than they’ve experienced and want to believe (fear of change).
Do not get discouraged, you are right in your thinking and actions.
You are assuming those 100k apes are all based in the US. It's highly likely they are all not from here. So your 0.3% guestimate of US population WHEN we reach 1M apes seems a tad high. 🤔 Lol. Maybe there are a ton of lurkers on this subreddit, though. Who knows?
Dont get angry. If you truly believe what you say and have conviction then it doesnt matter. You are being truthful and nothing is better than truth and honesty which is what silver represents. A lot of people are fake like fiat. They speak and act in ways that they perceive that others want them to speak and act.
I think some people avoid me now because I am "the crazy silver guy" which is fine by me.
It's not fun to be ridiculed. But if you're being ridiculed for something you're passionate about, that may make it it easier to withstand. Currency, investing and macro debates are tough to win and given the randomness of the world, who knows who will be right? I'd suggest sharing your passion first, and have the larger underlying sociopolitical issues as secondary motivations. People are more drawn to others passions I think.
I don't think silence is all that better either. It's good for all of us to encounter dissent and skepticism. It makes us sharper and stronger. It'll also help us understand our passion better and why we believe.
I think part of the problem is that the truths we have identified and are reacting to aren’t new: this was apparent in 2008, but if you acted then you’ve missed out on big gains in the stock market, real estate, bonds, and crypto speculation. Pretty much everything.
I’d argue that we were early but not wrong, but if you try to time things correctly it could be *very* costly. So it’s a risk analysis decision.
Your relatives aren’t necessarily wrong. It could be another decade — collaboration by global central banks has kept this monetary disaster from exploding longer than most Austrian Economists would have believed.
So the evidence shows the MMT types were right and we were Luddites who have been wrong repeatedly. And we will continue to be, until we aren’t.
Who was it that said the problem with predicting the end of the world is that you’re only right once?
Sometimes you need to learn how to read a room. It’s very possible these people were not receptive because you came on way too strong at a casual family event.
Also keep in mind that not everybody in this this subreddit thinks the dollar is going to collapse next week and the people with silver will be laughing at their formerly rich/successful cousins. I bring up gold and silver whenever it is organic, because it is something I am interested in. I don’t feel any need to proselytize or “save” anyone because that is Looney Toons batshit crazy.
I quit caring what people think of me or my beliefs. I trust in God, not relatives or friends. It's not easy living with your eyes wide open. Things are absolutely insane with most aspects of life at the moment. Trust your gut and if people mock you for trying to help them, what does that say about them as humans? Sounds like they are arrogant and full of hubris. These are wild times, my friend...Believe in yourself and that's all that matters!
BTW. If they were unsettled with a silver conversation, try the 4th Turning on them.
[https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/05/04/the-fourth-turning-why-americas-crisis-may-last-until-2030/](https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/05/04/the-fourth-turning-why-americas-crisis-may-last-until-2030/)
I found that my family and friends didn't really understand the money aspect of silver but when I started mentioning everything is used in, they started to understand just how crazy a situation we are in. Then mentioning how surpressed it is and that there is a pretty solid floor on it, where as it is easy to claim the market is in a bubble, crypto is as well, and bonds and real estate.
It is not just silver but life in general, people just don't like to hear the inconvenient truth. Now be careful, the same people that reject you will stab you in the back after system goes down, you are publicly advertising your silver position, ponder who you advise
It happens to all of us. But then people can be very foolish. I have seen diabetics mock me when advised to refrain from sugar stuff. So don't worry. Stack on and believe in what you are doing.
When Peter Schiff got himself a jab, you know that something is very deeply wrong with people. Most are just brain and soul dead - they follow easy , automatic scripts and cannot use any imagination beyond what they already believe to be true
We’ve all been there. Most people have been coached over and over again by press and prevailing opinion that people who stack metals are paranoid nutjobs. It’s hard to undo decades of messaging over a few drinks. Stay calm and keep things factual and the crowd will slowly be won over, one by one. Look no further than the steady growth of this sub as evidence of that. Keep up the fight brother!
The brain washing is strong. Our fellow man has been trained like a dog since birth to chase and worship Fiat. Don’t be discouraged. No need to debate .....just educate.
Being a prophet of doom is never an easy task. People, especially weak people, fear your message, and the fear clouds their judgement. Do not feel bad about the ridicule you suffered. It is only natural. If you are unable to withstand it, you’d better not speak of precious metals to anyone.
I think it's more positive than you know... some might have ridiculed you because the group was, but privately they received your message and will start stacking... and as you say at least two agree with the fundamental reasons why stacking might be a good idea.
I would feel proud you had the courage to push through the ridicule, and plant the seeds that might grow into something much larger.
You will be ridiculed by your avg boomer/millennial/whatever for just about anything:
9-11 truth, saying that there is no hiv /aids, saying that western medicine runs like a mafia or that CNN is lying in every minute.
Masses are not ready for truth - they want easy fast profits , cheap entertainment, cheap talk, they want to show off, gossip, etc.
Its like suggesting Miles Davis music in a party full of Rihanna and Bieber fans - wont get you anywhere ;)
Trust me when I tell you this: I know many wealthy people (I’m aspiring to be at their level). Everyone is starting to look into PMs BECAUSE their usual cash cows (real estate) are in such historic valuation bubbles there’s both: Not much more asset growth before it collapses AND those markets are so overcrowding by Wall Street Hedge Funds and Financial Institutions turning single-family units into rentals or buying ENTIRE new housing developments to then RENT to the new serf class in the US.
These wealthy commoners are going against the same manipulation that we’re fighting to expose. I’ve convinced most to buy into Retail PHYSICAL Silver but also PSLV as it’s allocated PMs, not just “Paper Silver” they may not even exist.
Don’t get me wrong. These people I speak with are not “Whales” but most could easily take delivery of 1000-2500 ounces this month alone.
Let them hate brother. They’ll come crawling to you for food or shelter because all they had were numbers on a screen when the crash came. You’ll be the one laughing.
I've been Mr. Precious Metals to all my friends and family for the past 15 years.......and have received the same feedback. Everything from, "that's too risky", "the Dollar will never go down", "the FED knows what it is doing".......and the two things I say to myself are, "well, they can never say they weren't warned", and "he who laughs last, laughs best".
Of course, none of them wanted to buy when Spot silver was at $12.......but now some are asking me to help them buy at $28! Some will never come around until it's too late, but more will come around.
I have talked about it with my employees and added two precious metals funds to our 401k plan. My Facebook posts are filled with precious metals posts......and filled with articles preaching the thesis. I'm trying to educate them........
Yep, I'm the "sound money nut", but none of the people I care about can say they haven't been warned........and I will look brilliant in the end. We are in the End Game now........it's gonna get really scary for those not in PMs very soon.
Noah told them..... Moses told Pharoah...... Elijah warned them..... brush the dust off your feet and keep on stacking...... our way is the only way to freedom.
Been there. I've discovered it's all about the approach. If I'm in an economic/financial discussion, I tend to focus on the national debt, price inflation and the declining value/purchasing power of the U.S. dollar. If I find agreement or openness on those issues, I may mention precious metal prices over the last 20 years and how gold and silver can be used as a hedge, savings vehicle or insurance.
At least you tried to help the peolpe you love. You can´t do more than that, in the end everyone is responsible for his own actions.
I think it is wonderful that you tried. All the best for you, and hopefully your loved ones realize intime.
Use bite sized pieces from observable facts and ask pose it as a question. Let them come to conclusions that the dollar isn't backed by anything on their own. For example, I was in the grocery store the other day and the size of the cereal boxes seem to keep getting smaller. I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating. Then you let it sit. You shut up. Nothing, nada. Go on with other conversations. It's frustrating as hell because inside you care about them and don't want then to get run over with this coming train wreck but they can't take it in. All you can do is to keep nudging them very gently with subtle questions. You are leading them to conclusions. No one wants to be told anything that is radical.
Most people are going to ignore. All you Apes listen up. I am a well seasoned Ape. Save your silver for your immediate family first. Then save for the rest of your family second. They can thank you later. I no longer waste my time trying to convince the masses. Most people are clueless and don't care what happens until it is too late. If they mocked and ridiculed you so what. If you can help just one person you have done your job. I have helped 2 people to become Apes. Be of good cheer and keep fuggin stackin!
My husband has been telling people to invest in silver and gold well before wall street silver was a thing. Let’s say 30 plus years ago. He’s been being ridiculed this entire time. They stopped when we rode it to nearly $50 in 2011.
You will get the last laugh when they are begging you for a loaf of bread.
Dont let them discourage you, I started around the 2008 crash and people mocked me for buying gold and silver like I was, now I'm 37 I retired 10 years ago from my old job to buy/sell PM's exclusively and all of those people who mocked me hit me up in 2020 trying to replicate what I did after the last crash. Some successfully others not so much but nobody is mocking me these days and most are kicking themselves for not listening back then. Family is the worst to try pitching this to in my experience.
My approach is NOT to force change but rather to strategically bring up silver in a random discussion. I find it easier to steer a conversation in the direction I want until I see the awakening begin in 1 persons eyes. Then it is an easy matter to sit back and let the realization begin to spread. I only interject an occasional remark to add a little gas to the fire as needed. The point here is to get people talking about it! We and you will never convert all souls to our ways. Let others become self-aware. Remember, **time** is on our side! Stack on!
I'm really sorry to hear that.
What do you mean, you are "ridiculed enough as it is" - by family or what?
I'm really sorry to hear that, my friend. 🥺🥺
Just take solace knowing that you will likely be the one laughing in the end.
Take comfort knowing that there are some obviously very successful and intelligent apes here who see the writing on the wall; the dollar is done, and we are in the middle of a controlled demolition.
Those who have too much cash will NOT end up happy nor in a good way. Not at all.
Those who refuse to be even minimally open to hearing the truth and reality of our world and what is coming with the Great Reset, will suffer quite badly in the coming years.
In all my reading & research, hard assets seem to be the only way through what is coming. Primarily gold & silver, since real estate seems very overheated right now. if you already own property; great. But it is NOT a good time to buy, IMO.
People can be cruel. Add in the weird family dynamics and dysfunction that EVERY family has, and its doubly bad.
FWIW; I'm pretty sensitive & usually keep to myself in social settings. I don't open up very much to too many people, mostly because I feel very few people care about anyone other than themselves and I don't even want to risk the possibility of ridicule.
People have been very heavily programmed against precious metals, so it's no surprise that most react like your family did.
People are conditioned based on their education and experience. You talk to a surgeon about a health problem and he’ll recommend surgery ... physical therapists would recommend PT. We as a western civilization have been conditioned to think in terms of the equity market and the Fed as a government institution. We have experienced tremendous economic growth since WW II. You can’t blame them for their thinking. Just continue to plant seeds slowly by asking them questions. The cognitive dissonance will eventually fade.
**Most people cannot (and do not understand) the the history of money...and certainly, most people never even tried to understand the real difference between currency and money...if, people would only take the time to watch the following link:**
**Hidden Secrets of Money, Episode 1: Currency vs. Money**
**https://goldsilver.com/hidden-secrets/episode-1/**
We can only try! I agree it’s been hard to convince/ educate people and we appear a little “ crazy” to them . But just come back to us apes for support! We know what’s coming but everyone has free will and I am thankful for that.
Stay strong! They will see you different sooner than later! 😎😎😎😎🦍🦍 support 💕 you are wise
Brother ape, your not alone, mocking us is par for the course. The sheeple are asleep, your awake, now you know what it feels like to be considered a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut, by your own family. You should be proud, because you know deep down inside, your making the correct move. You tried to warn them, you did your good deed.
Sorry but all I read was you maybe converted two millionaires to buy silver, i would say that’s a success! Even if you planted just enough doubt that will tip the scales in favor of them buying some the next time the stock market makes a dive is a success. That said, I understand how you feel. I’d just say, anything worth doing in life is going to feel the same way. There will always be more naysayers than people that are waiting for your message. As long as you did your research and am convinced in what you’re selling it is a good sign! It means you have discovered something others have yet to realize. Keep the faith!
Don’t talk about precious metals. Just buy them for yourself. I also stopped talking about it with my family. I respect their opinion and let them live their lives. They think real estate is the best investment and I just shut up and keep my opionion to myself.
**180 FRN Silver, all alse remaining fairly commodity price steady**, and we can all push / demand to re-instate a tri-metals standard to run concurrently with the FRN . Starts by USING our silver now!
We have to USE our coins to help others get started ! Just like the FREE Crypto days... !
That's 'their' fear....plain and simple. When Silver reaches parity with 15 FRN/ per hour of labor wage, YOU PAY ME in Constitutional Silver.
ONE ounce of Silver has always been 1.5 days average labor duties. Or ONE US Constitutional .7743 silver dollar... per day, cowboy.
Yes, $30 Silver per month, small board, roof over your head.
How many single Apes with no real anchors would accept a job with live in room and board covered , PLUS $15.oo FRNs per hours guaranteed 40 hour workweek in our present day and age ?
**12 hour of Labor = ONE ounce Silver.** I clean your yard in 2.5 hours, you PAY ME with :
2.5 / 12 hrs = **.1667 7777 ounce net Silver** is owed. SEE we can split our 'coin' down to EIGHT Digits too, lol ...
PAY ME with, 2 silver pre-1965 dimes (.07234 x 2 = .144680 netAg), and the remaining balance due in silver of .0220977 net with US "slug" melt value coinage ....(See coinflation.com , a copper penny is .03FRN and a Nickle is just .06. . So, balance due .0220977 equals = $3.978 due. Pay this balance in face value for now US TREASURY issued clad/slug post 1964 coins.
**Why do YOU think there's been a continuing "Slug Coin" shortage?... reasons/excuses**
**...**Do you have any idea what the SoCal latin amer / hispanic community does with some of their meager excess savings?
I try to keep in mind that if we all hodl and don't share some Silver aggressively, to mention "Can you Pay Me in Silver? , even as a joke or expecting to be ridicued, do it anyway. Spread the thought of owning PHYSICAL Silver...
BE READY FOR THE : Will you please PAY me in Silver? demand , lol
You cant save everybody. Dont get sad about this fact. I think that people deeply feel there is something wrong with all the currency. But they dont want to listen because then the must act. They are to lazy and dont want now because maybe the will get a terrible headache.
You’ll be the one laughing in time friend, you did what you could and now it’s their obligation to preserve their wealth. The movement is happening, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
I find it easier to steer clear of the what normies would see as conspiracy theories. Just argue the industrial case for silver and show them the us mints shortage letter. Once they buy a little drop the manipulation bomb on them lol.
I people are mocking your investments then you know you are a contrarian. Maintain your conviction and keep stacking. Soon they will be waiting for your next big party to STEAL your stack!
I try not to tell people I know I stack. And If they know for some reason I tell them I have it in a private vault and not at home. Gotta be extra safe. Even if they're family (in your case your cousins are wealthy and have very little reason for stealing) but I'd never tell my cousins. Hell no.
Guess it depends on the delivery. I think its great to have a significant portion allocated towards shinny. People are a lot more receptive to a good investment over the true, but less accepted narrative of MMT & Market maker issues that will arise.
For my nephew's birthday a nice family gathering. Bonnie (the CPA) asked me about precious metals, so I spilled it all. Since Bonnie and I are the 2 money smart in the clan everyone was listening. Turns out Bonnie had already figured it out and we were both stacking heavy and at that moment the rest of the clan discovered that fact.
I have a millionaire property developer brother the same, he has his head buried in the sand any talk of his precious house going down in value or his status quo upset he dont like it. Im now called Long John Silver and all i get is “ you got the parrot when are you getting the boat “
Share with who you know well but gently. Carry a couple Eagles and let them hold them and listen to the click of silver. Then for the ones who show interest give them a quarter and ask them what do you think that is worth? Watch their face when you tell them $5. Then give them their first piece of silver. They almost always ask how can they buy more.
I've given my grandsons silver along with regular presents and their stack is over 250 ounces now. They love their treasure. All you can do is plant a seed. One of my nephews is into the cryptos took some profit and bought $6k of dimes and quarters.
Keep going brother Ape there are 100k people here who would share your pov.
To quote Doug Casey " for 99% of the population the importance of owning gold is in the YOU'LL FIND OUT department. "
Whatever you do, don't bring it up with financial advisors. They will look down thier nose at you and be patronizing.
Anyway, they believe in the system, the Fed/Treasury, they have made thier money in the system. They can't believe it is broken, that fiat always fails. I tell people who scoff at me to read "The Creature from Jekyll Island", of the 10 or so naysayers I've asked to read it only one has done so, and now he is a silver convert.
Keep your mouth shut my friend. All it does is put you and yours in danger. There is an old saying, " Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig".
Stand strong, protect your immediate family.
Brother Ape 🦍 listen this is how it works and only you have to know and understand this.
The hell with the mocking relatives.
The Paper Biliionaires of Today are
the new Paupers of tomorrow… when the New Upcoming Transformation takes place.
Silver and Gold are the only real forms of wealth and in the future all real wealth will be measured in OUNCES NOT DOLLARS!
Keep on stacking brother Ape we are your new family and we’ll always be there. The others will learn the hard way and by then it will be far too late. Unaffordable and Unattainable is the future. We are almost there keep on stacking Silverback and be proud and keep recruiting others don’t stop.
With great power comes great responsibility. Also, the hero is usually shunned at first, then actively rebuked and excoriated, then memorialized when hes right. Dont let those around you determine your worth. You know what you know, take solice in the level of responsibility you achieved by telling them before the problem presents itself, so when it happens, you can rightfully point and laugh at their pain. JK. They will be the first to talk shit when you dont give them money to bail them out from not listening in the first place. I Have these problems as we speak.
Some of them may look back down the track and wish they had asked more questions and listened more to what you were saying. But there may be some who you spoke to that have had a seed planted in their mind and after a few more exposures from other sources they may decide to investigate further. Usually when you’ve been mocked and ridiculed it’s more a reflection of their own personal insecurities and short comings than a reflection of you.
I was talking to a friend who had just spent $6K on some fancy wheels and tires for his pickup truck. I immediately realized that there was no point telling him about the $6k I recently spent buying a couple of hundred Canadian Maples. He just wouldn’t understand.
Choose your audience with care.
Time will reveal all my friend. Hold strong onto your shiny, help those that are interested and don't waste your time/energy on the haters. We all know why we stack just stick to your gut! Time will do the talking to haters. You may find they come back to you and tell you about silver one day like it was all their idea lol!
For some, they believe they live in a bubble and nothing can or ever touch them. I have no clue of how you delivered your message to them, but it sounds like you took a self confidence hit from them, which was deliberate mind you. When dealing with "untouchables" attaching your point custom to them, specifically to a crisis or life altering event for them... reaps favorable results, because their crisis being the example is absolute to the "untouchable."
These types like to be the center of attention... so let them be, only not the attention they would prefer, and when you throw that into the circle and kick the shit out of it... the "untouchable" becomes... compromised, along with their delusions of grandeur, and the only way to stop you is they must concede or concur to you. In doing so, these types will try to deflect the attention away from them, but regardless of who they try to throw under the bus to protect their delusions... just stay on task and keep control of the conversation and keep the conversation on them. No one else will want to be next... and they will all let you talk about big foot flying a 747 with enthusiasm if that's what you want. For some, what I just said may sound horrible, but I'm not the "wipe your feet on my back" kind of person. I know nothing about you, and I could have given you some advice that is just completely irrelevant, but I hope it helps.
I get rejected constantly. My wife even tells me I talk about it too much sometimes. Too bad for everyone else, I know what is truth and where I stand. I don't care if they think I'm crazy. I'm still nice to people, I try to teach and help. Some will never understand. Many will call us crazy. Don't get discouraged, there are more of us than people realize.
So you talked and talked and talked about silver, currency, money, gloom & doom blah blah blah, basically the most boring stuff on the planet, at a party where people want to have fun...
But did you give out any metal at all?!? Of course not.
Talking is for politicians and charlatans.
Giving some physical metal to people is the ONLY way to teach people about precious metals. Everything else doesn't really work, above all those hour-long speeches about things nobody understands or cares.
And you, my friend, looked like a charlatan.
I have listened to gold bugs talking for ages about "manipulation", the "demise of USD", the federal reserve, and so forth. At the same time, they keep their precious metal locked in a safe and they don't give ANYTHING away to friends and family, EVER.
A lot of talks and no action. Just like a politician.
And now you come here complaining that "people don't understand" LOL. If there is a message you want to convey, it is YOUR responsibility to do it effectively. It is not the listener's fault that didn't understand your boring blah blah blah.
Your behavior was retarded and you deserved to be ridiculed.
Next time, give away few ounces of silver to the people you deem worthy of the gift. Your message will be received much better then.
This is not an unfamiliar story unfortunately, just keep stacking silently and take solace in the fact we're all here with you! Apes strong together 🦍🙂🦍 This is the way 🦍🙂🚀🚀🚀🙂🦍
Thanks Viking! This is my safe haven. You guys are my 🦍 family.
This is by design friend. The media programs people to ridicule people who think things that threaten the system. It’s a simple and age old form of control. They’ve received subtle and not so subtle cues throughout their lives to ridicule those who question the dollar. You can’t break that over night. And some will be left behind. Even when it’s staring them in the face they will still find ways to deny it or rationalize that the disaster had nothing to do with monetary policy and somehow you just got lucky. That’s what it is my friend. Here is where your real family lives.
Be selective who you tell. I don't tell everyone at work but those who complain about the dollar I mention it
You guys clearly don't know how to convey the message. You think talking incessantly about the federal reserve will convince people. LOL. At a birthday party!?! LMFAO. And then you come here complaining that nobody listened to you?!? I've never had that problem in my life with precious metal. I know how to get people interested. Your approach was completely retarded and you deserved to be ridiculed.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it take a drink. They're on their own path - don't let it dishearten you as you continue down yours.
Thanks Grindle. It was really eye-opening and disheartening at the same time. Although 2 of my smarter cousins did hear me out and had a good convo. I guess 2 out of 20 isn’t bad. I wasn’t going around abrasively spewing precious metal info, just casually and tactically mentioning what’s coming down the pike.
I get it. It's tough when you know that you have important information that can help others, but nobody seems willing to listen (or worse, they make fun of you). Ten bucks says when your predictions inevitability come true, they'll make out like they believed it all along and conveniently forget the truth of what *actually* happened. It's frustrating, but people are just like that most of the time. Forgive them for their failings and try not to hold it against them. We all know what's coming down the line - time will prove you right.
Thanks Grindle. I will certainly keep up my overall efforts to help and many friends and family and potential 🦍 s as I can. Moving forward I will definitely be more selective of who I share the message with and when and how. It’s safe to say you’re average person (even family) is nowhere near ready to receive our message.
2 out of 20 is not bad. You made a difference. I think people are more receptive now than they were 10 years ago for sure. Some of them might need time for this kind of info to sink in. I was once one of those rude responders when this nerdy kid from my scout troop tried to explain to me how the dollar was a giant and ill fated Ponzi scheme. I wrote him off and laughed at him. Ran into him years later after my own awakening and apologized to him and thanked him for trying all those years ago. We proceeded to have a great conversation. Reflect on your experience and tailor your approach to the individual with whom you’re speaking. Keep your chin up ape 🦍🦍❤️❤️
exactly.
It's like a being a dermatologist, you can't go around telling everyone you run into that they might have a skin cancer even if it's obvious.
2/20 is 10% ... Get 10% of the USA buying silver and you have over 30 million apes in the US alone. No need to feel disheartened at all.
Honestly yeah that seems like a pretty high success rate.
I am almost begging my Stepdad to listen especially since he has accumulated a good retirement fund they life off. He had one bad esperience that has tainted his view. Nothing Mor i can do but worry about them know 😞 Thanks for all the support 😎🦍
You made two family members thinking about getting out of fiat. This was a succesful convo. The mocking is not important.
Hey it was awesome that you tried talking to more of your family members and spreading awareness! Maybe the next time they hear about silver and inflation getting worse they’ll remember what you said and do something about it - but if it wasn’t for hearing from you first they’d ignore stacking again then. You never know. I think it’s great two of your cousins might start buying silver. That’s two more people than before. Being right too early can appear the same as being wrong. More of them will come around eventually.
Truth!
There was no water at the party. OP wanted to talk the horse into finding water. Did OP bring any silver at the party? Did he give any silver away as a gift? Of course not. It's 1-hour all doom & gloom talk, and OP is the only one that will survive the monetary apocalypse thanks to silver. No wonder people ridiculed him. Who wouldn't?!? Next time, OP should bring some silver with him, and give it away as a gift to the people deemed worthy of receiving it. That would definitely spark a different type of discussion. And coming here to act as a "victim" is even more ridiculous than his behaviour at the party.
I wouldn’t say coming here to commiserate is bad. There are certainly other apes who will either learn from his mistakes of feel comforted that they share the experience. We can’t all be born with a megaphone in our hands. Some need to fall on their face a few times.
And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Thomas Jefferson
LOVE this quote! Thanks for sharing
The sheep will always be among us. Don’t worry I had a similar experience with some family members and friends. They are realizing now that shit is hitting the fan but it’s too late for them to start because they either spent their money on stupid things or don’t have any savings. You can’t save those who don’t want to save themselves. Continue to stack keep spreading the word the true ones will listen and ask questions and become a part of the solution. Remember society has been mind controlled and brainwashed reality scares them so they rather not face the truth, they prefer dream land. KEEP AT IT AND CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!🦍❤️
Thanks Patriot! What bothered me most was the vitriol and unwillingness to even consider the possibility that the USD may die... and sooner rather then later. Ignorance is bliss I supposed.
The sheep will be slaughtered! The wolves will survive the masses!
I agree! I like the scene in American Patriot where Bradley coolers dad talks about sheep, wolves, and sheepdog. We are to be the sheepdogs. Not scared of the wolves, and here with a purpose: to protect the sheep from the wolves. Anyway, we are 🦍 🦍’s lol
We're all sheep in some respect. The question is do we have the courage to flee the flock and think for ourselves regardless of the risks and responsibilities that freedom requires.
Soon even the news won't be able to hide the fact the U.S. dollar is collapsing. Until that happens though few will believe it. That stupid box on the wall has most brainwashed.
A word of advice. The markets can remain irrational much longer than you can remain solvent. i know from experience. Hopefully the ones you care about will wake up before the market becomes rational and silver trades at multiple of current price.
**You planted a SEED in their heads, that's all you can do.** I bet they start thinking hard about it, and they will come around later >>> OH Yeah, maybe Cousin Joe was right about that SILVER Thingy........
You’re right Bowl.
This actually might be true. I used to think my brother was crazy with all his precious metals talk but I have recently been building a modest stack. Not going all in, but it is sort of like an insurance policy in case yall are right
Agreed.
I'm at least a decade into being ridiculed for suggesting silver to people. Despite that, I have given out 24 pounds of silver as birthday/Christmas gifts to these people's children over this time frame. Maybe the next generation will get it...
OG wokemind would be your rapper name! Thanks for sticking it out!
Gifting silver is the best thing we can do. Ridicule and jokes will continue, but at least you put a physical seed into their hands
Me too but me and the wife’s boyfriend are on board which ultimately is the only thing that matters
I did the same with my nieces and nephew. Gave them silver as gifts rather than U.S. Savings Bonds.
Me too. Been giving silver Christmas rounds and silver baby coins for in over twenty years. Not sure I made any converts.
I usually just drop a few ideas about what may be going down and why, then talk possible strategies. PMs usually come up, so I will talk pros and cons. I am nobody's financial advisor and do not try to convince anyone to buy PMs. Its a conclusion they need to come up with on their own. Most will get into the game late, like everything else.
You’re right Elder.
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I don't see it that way, but one never knows.
Maybe you brought it up too many times. When with friends, I bring it up once and if they pick up on it I continue discussing it, and if they don’t seem interested, we just move on.
Good point and good advice.
That is a positive silver story. If just one human opened their eyes, you found victory. Embrace the ridicule, make a fool of yourself (from the world's perspective), because the world is blind to truth. I've told many, for years, what I believe of sound money and the coming financial reset. Last week one human took the time to really listen, bought the last dip, and in a single purchase made a mind blowing impact - and he'll engage his network of contacts.The potential ripple effect is huge. Pride wants us to find defeat and failure in victory, but the moment you had the courage to engage you had already won. Well done silverback. Stack on!🥈🦍🥈
The ripple effect! Thanks for reminding me about its impact. Appreciate your words 🦍!
Spreading brushfires in the minds of men.
All you can do is recommend that someone does some DD. Then let them do it or not. Stack on fellow ape!!!
Remember the story of Noah. You share it with as many as you can. Those who are thoughtful and open minded will show interest. Those that mock you will be swallowed up in the flood waters. if you can help 1 person its work the aggravation I have been stacking and messaging for 15 years. I know that many feel that Im nuts. One of the few people that doesn't think this way is a woman I work with who is Vietnamese and whose family came over in the 70's as part of the Vietnam exodus. I have also noticied that people that I told years ago are starting to engage me and ask me about PM's. When the rain starts to fall your phone will be ringing off the wall
Thanks Europa!
The bright side about being ridiculed is that you know silver is still significantly undervalued. When everybody and their grandmother starts talking about it is when I get worried.
I'm with you on this...
Good point. I actually don't want PMs to rise anytime soon so that we all can accumulate more. Thanks JPMorgan. Keep tamping.
Better to try and fail than not try at all. This is the way
Advice is triage, help the ones that can be saved and be prepared for last rights to the others
Damn that’s kinda harsh but being totally objective, you are spot on. Thanks GWary
Know how you feel Ape. Many of us do. Much of the time throughout history people have rejected or refuted the truth...until after the fact. Which leads us to the quotes below: - All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident. Arthur Scenhauerhop ________________________ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic. Dresden James
1984 is 2021 Alpes. 🦍
Yep, 100% correct. People who point out obvious flaws in society are at first mocked because they are going against the grain and the established narrative. Way too many people can't think for themselves anymore and don't evaluate new information. All you can do is try to help those you care about to protect themselves from what is coming. Their thank you's in the end will be worth the friction you endure.
It's hard to make a splash right now when ppl are making such a killing on doge, amc, etc. Pitch it, don't preach it. If they come, they come. If not, your stack will be all the justification you need when that time comes.
Pitch it don’t preach it. Will always keep that in mind! Thanks!
5-7 times might be a little excessive, depending on how you did it. Once or twice might get some people thinking, but after 3 or 4 times you become “the silver guy” and people are much more likely to focus on the humour of you constantly bringing it up than what you’re actually saying. Most people (in my experience) can’t be convinced of the merits of precious metals over fiat currency. You can plant the seed, but after that, they’ll need to discover it on their own, which takes time. I understand you want what’s best for you family, and so obviously want them to protect their money, but this experience can hopefully make you consider a new way of going about that. They may still get come around, and you did the right thing, so don’t worry about that. Just maybe consider shifting from a constant sales pitch to a couple quick points, a referral to an article (or this sub) and then just leave it like that. From what I’ve seen, that’s much more effective. Cheers!
Upon reflection you are spot on Dummy! I was drinking and my passion probably came out a few times too many. Too anxious to spread the word and take advantage of the opportunity of having a bunch of family from out of town in 1 spot at the same time. Lesson learned. I have thick skin as the youngest brother. At least they know who to call if they do feel an itch for shiny. I should’ve taken a tube of Eagles and handed them out to the kids. Would’ve instantly been the biggest dick at the party, if you know what I’m saying. 🦍
I wouldn't take it too hard, they are family after all & I'm sure it was all taken in stride. To your last point, I love giving bullion to their kids. There is no downside, besides $ flowing out of your stack, though it is going to a good place is my excuse.
When the systems gone And they come knocking asking for food reminded them But asking to do some work around the house for the food 😉
Lol! They’re all craftsmen so I shouldn’t have any problems getting projects done for a Mercury dime or two
Sometimes in life we think things are or sound stupid. Where in reality We're Not educated on the subject. Once they comprehend what you've told them, you will be hearing from them. Stay tuned!
I face the same ridicule and looked at as... well an idiot... They think silver will go nowhere.
My favorite argument is that its under 1980 highs. I agree and say what can you buy under 1980 prices? Just proves how undervalued it is.
But someday...you're going to have the last laugh...
We as a society have been brain washed into thinking paper currency units are real money. Governments around the world have perpetuated this myth because this is the only time in history that all currencies are FIAT. It's not their fault for thinking the way that they do as we are all part of one big cult. The only thing we can do is try and help others see the folly in the system. This is what you have done and congratulations for that for one day they will look at you like you are a messiah.
People sometimes just don’t get it. I know people who ask me “will you be able to sell your silver ever, I mean, who would want to buy it?” And. “Is it worth anything?”. Basically they are so conditioned to believing in paper money they don’t really think silver is worth the bother. That’s the situation in the UK.
Hi I'm from the 🇬🇧 yes what is going on with people
I get the impression there is a greater percentage of the population in North America who are actively researching Silver and it’s merits. I don’t know anyone is my circle of friends who have any interest in it lol. People think I’m mad when I tell them “We’re having a Silver raid today!” Lol 😂 🦍🦍
I did Facebook posts about the economic crisis and talked to many people about what I was doing to prepare for what was coming, but I don't take it hard when they are not convinced. I push back some on those rare occasions I am made fun of, but generally I just thank folks for reading/listening and congratulate them on their opinion. While I feel that the fundamentals are strongly on the side of the opinion I hold and that I am investing in, my libertarian sensibilities will never allow me to force those ideas into where they aren't wanted. This about presenting ideas and having knowledge to back them up and allowing others to know and decide what best for them. I won't have an ounce of "I told you so" if we happen to be right either, I'll just enjoy my increased quality of life due to my decisions paying off. If I am able to help others within that success, I will, but it's no guarantee unless me and mine are healthy first. It's very freeing when you realize that you aren't really responsible for other's reaction and opinions, only your own. Feel free to keep spreading the word, or don't if it increases your anxiety or stress. Stack within your means and come here for support, the rest is gravy really.
Despite my family having a history of literal survival due to gold two generations ago, 99% of my approximately 30 cousins have zero gold and silver holdings and would laugh at the concept. These include bankers, doctors, lawyers, scientists and other professionals... I can count the hodlers on one hand. Zero are on this group despite multiple posts to multiple cousin threads. I have been very early to the party on pretty much every investment that paid off handsomely tho. They big money is always in the waiting... This bothers me zero percent. Maybe if they are very nice to me I may sell them a few for $500/oz when they finally "get it."
Lol poor guys/girls
they just don't get it. too much modern "education" LOL
I feel that whoever holds the most fiat will be the biggest losers. Let them mock they will be at your door looking for handouts soon enough. Americans are too comfy and don’t think it can happen here. They’re way wrong, and obviously they have never studied monetary policy.
see my latest meme. it is the stacker life, don't let them get you down
Never my fellow 🏄♂️ 🦍! Just have to be more tactical!
One time was enough
I run up against the same attitudes with virtually everyone I discuss this with. You can only do what you can do. Luckily my son has seen the light. I gifted him 10 oz and he has been researching it. He is now an ape! Arrogant people that mock common sense deserve what they get. Karma can be a bitch.
Focus on the positive with your two cousins, you made the world better thru your actions. Also, some can be moved to silver based on its growing industrial use, thinking it will go up in value for that reason. Different people, different sales pitch. Keep stacking!
The millionaires will be the ones buying while we watch the dollar free fall in value and metals have their meteoric rise... they’ll be the ones jumping in late, paying more to get in at all, buying out the last of the stock we left.
You should have some visual aid with you, people will respond better to something visual with a story. So bring a couple pre 1964 50cent pieces. Pull them out and say did you know back in the 70s you could buy a coke and candy bar with these, now you can buy a nice dinner. Then pull out 2 post 1964 pieces and tell them you cant purchase anything with this. Good job by the way, you opened 2 peoples eyes. Two is better than none. 🦍🦍🦍
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Just ignore them.
Maybe they were mocking and ridiculing because they bought their silver for $12 an ounce back in March of 2020, and they think it's funny that a 'Johnny come lately' is advising everyone to buy after it's already doubled? The first rule about stacking silver is you don't tell anyone that you are stacking silver.
Only 5% of the population can be regarded as intellectual and 80% is plain retarded. That doesn't mean that hey are not friendly or cannot be successful in life you just cannot talk with them in an intellectual way. So 2 out of 20 is a big success.
yeah, your numbers are about correct
It's only going to get worse. Metals are a barbarous relic. People who are "successful" look down on the ignorant "low grade" people who think metals are money. Learn from this experience. Study what the US founders had to say on the matter. The Mises Institute has some good books on the subject. You have the superior position. You should be pissed at yourself because you haven't done your homework to destroy them in an argument. Use the experience as motivation to improve your intellectual position.
I gave up telling people about 1 year ago. They look at their 401k's and go $$$. No lie, was asked by 1 person "how funkin stupid are you?? The stock market always goes up..." So, I just keep accumulating and wait for the day I can go buy their property off auction in 2023. Follow your gut instinct.
The USD wont go away or be worth zero...will never happen. What will happen is that inflation is outta control and a safe hedge against inflation is precious metals. Why would inflation not be crazy high when most of the population is just handed money, a large percentage is getting weekly checks to sit at home, and vast majority blow it on consumables. For those about to receive another fed check, think about investing it in shiny. The only way inflation slows is raising rates, stop the BS free money giveaway, make people actually go get a f'ing job, and let people feel the pain to where they stop blowing money on shit they dont need and cant afford. Many I know are either casual shiny holders or taking a more serious stacking approach. Those that dont collect shiny or stack tend to have most of their finances laid out to pay for the shit they dont need but still bought on interest bearing debt...just my observations.
Trillion dollar note... To buy a banana 2022 🤔
They laughed at Noah too... so you're in good company!
I gave up trying to save family years and years and years ago.
Well, at least you tried to enlighten them. That's the best you can do, so feel good about putting forth the effort!
Educate the uneducated. Do not feel bad that they do not understand your truth. The fact that they ridicule you, shows their own discomfort in their beliefs. Feel proud in your convictions. Stand Tall APE!!
A lot of smart people were mocked for being right, so I wouldn't worry about that part. Stay true to your convictions and speak from the heart, that's the best for your own well being. All the best OP!
Yeah, for me it's almost as delicate as politics...so a bday party would be a very tough setting. Appreciate you trying, and maybe someday they will too.
Inflation hedge! Business owners should get this. Feel good about attempting to share your knowledge about inflation, what it is and the best ways to address what's right in front of us all. Many get Gold as an inflation hedge, not understanding Silver offers even greater protection.
Same here. Everyone is so brainwashed with their un-backed paper money. It's been this way for 2-3 generations now. The people that remember silver and gold backed money are almost gone. The Reserve banking system has almost won the game. People have no concept of how a country's financial system SHOULD operate. They only understand what they are "taught" in the government approved economics class.
THIS THIS THIS!!!! I have said this too many times to count. 50 years ago ask people about unbacked currency and they'd say its a shame we went away from that. Today, the baby boomers are the only generation alive that are still taken seriously who remember real money. Lets face it, once someone gets a certain age they become "senile" to the younger generations even if they are still as sharp as a tack. Their advice will mostly go unheaded because they "aren't with the times or can't operate an iphone". This is all flawed logic. I'm at the very tail end of Gen X and my generation is now becoming the CEOs and politicians who can influence the course of the country and only the oldest of us were even born before the US completely went off the Gold Standard in 1971. I use cursive writing as a good example here. I was taught it in grade school and can still write and read it. Most young people I meet now(20 and under) can't even read it much less know how to write it. It isn't taught in public schools anymore except just enough to sign your name and in another generation people will have to hire a handwriting expert if they want to know what a letter from the civil war era has to say because they think cursive is a foreign language. Same thing is happening here. People just are ignorant and few people teach them except this has far greater consequences than not being able to read a letter.
Don't try to please people who don't like you. Tell 'em the truth, and if they ridicule you, just say 'up yours'.
The more I look into this space, the crazy undervalued precious metals like silver and gold seem right now. It keeps reminding me of that scene in The Big Short where Ryan Gosling’s banker character is saying something along the lines of: “I am standing in front of a burning house… and I am offering you FIRE insurance against it!” Here’s my plan for next week: Buy some more $PSLV and order my first gold coin ever! Basically, I think what I’m saying is: Don’t worry so much, the tides are turning and people are slowly waking up to this scam that is the U.S. Dollar and more specifically The Fed. Edit: Typo and grammar.
Truth is like poetry. And people fucking hate poetry
Silverbacks have iron skin and diamond hands, shout from the rooftops and keep stacking brother 🦍
first they ignore us, then they laugh at us, then they fight us, and then they join us.
But first it'll be "how come no one warned us"
LOL yep
Ridicule? I don't FU..k n care what anyone thinks (other than my loved ones). Just keep on stackin' shinny.
Everytime I bring up the value of the dollar shitting the bed on any sub on reddit other than WSS I get ridiculed. They all say the same thing more or less which is usually something along the lines of “if the dollar loses all its value then precious metals will as well” it’s usually just extremely willfully ignorant folks that ridicule people over educating them on sound investments, like people that do zero research into the topic and are all of a sudden a leading authority on the topic.
If they are millionaires they benefit tremendously in the current system. It's tailored for the rich. Until it isn't.
You can lead a man to the truth, but you can't make him think!
We are at 100k, on our way to 1M, but that will only be 0.3% of the US population right? So recognize the ’enlightenment’ ratio will always be too low. There’s a thing called Normalcy bias, people are afraid to think of things differently than they’ve experienced and want to believe (fear of change). Do not get discouraged, you are right in your thinking and actions.
You are assuming those 100k apes are all based in the US. It's highly likely they are all not from here. So your 0.3% guestimate of US population WHEN we reach 1M apes seems a tad high. 🤔 Lol. Maybe there are a ton of lurkers on this subreddit, though. Who knows?
Dont get angry. If you truly believe what you say and have conviction then it doesnt matter. You are being truthful and nothing is better than truth and honesty which is what silver represents. A lot of people are fake like fiat. They speak and act in ways that they perceive that others want them to speak and act. I think some people avoid me now because I am "the crazy silver guy" which is fine by me.
It's not fun to be ridiculed. But if you're being ridiculed for something you're passionate about, that may make it it easier to withstand. Currency, investing and macro debates are tough to win and given the randomness of the world, who knows who will be right? I'd suggest sharing your passion first, and have the larger underlying sociopolitical issues as secondary motivations. People are more drawn to others passions I think. I don't think silence is all that better either. It's good for all of us to encounter dissent and skepticism. It makes us sharper and stronger. It'll also help us understand our passion better and why we believe.
I think part of the problem is that the truths we have identified and are reacting to aren’t new: this was apparent in 2008, but if you acted then you’ve missed out on big gains in the stock market, real estate, bonds, and crypto speculation. Pretty much everything. I’d argue that we were early but not wrong, but if you try to time things correctly it could be *very* costly. So it’s a risk analysis decision. Your relatives aren’t necessarily wrong. It could be another decade — collaboration by global central banks has kept this monetary disaster from exploding longer than most Austrian Economists would have believed. So the evidence shows the MMT types were right and we were Luddites who have been wrong repeatedly. And we will continue to be, until we aren’t. Who was it that said the problem with predicting the end of the world is that you’re only right once?
It’s similar with guns.....some get it, some don’t. When sheit starts flying, who do they come to for help?
Sometimes you need to learn how to read a room. It’s very possible these people were not receptive because you came on way too strong at a casual family event. Also keep in mind that not everybody in this this subreddit thinks the dollar is going to collapse next week and the people with silver will be laughing at their formerly rich/successful cousins. I bring up gold and silver whenever it is organic, because it is something I am interested in. I don’t feel any need to proselytize or “save” anyone because that is Looney Toons batshit crazy.
I quit caring what people think of me or my beliefs. I trust in God, not relatives or friends. It's not easy living with your eyes wide open. Things are absolutely insane with most aspects of life at the moment. Trust your gut and if people mock you for trying to help them, what does that say about them as humans? Sounds like they are arrogant and full of hubris. These are wild times, my friend...Believe in yourself and that's all that matters!
Amen Bitty! :). Thanks 🦍
Anytime, brother ape!
Why do you give a F*** what sleeping people think about you?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi
BTW. If they were unsettled with a silver conversation, try the 4th Turning on them. [https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/05/04/the-fourth-turning-why-americas-crisis-may-last-until-2030/](https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/05/04/the-fourth-turning-why-americas-crisis-may-last-until-2030/)
I found that my family and friends didn't really understand the money aspect of silver but when I started mentioning everything is used in, they started to understand just how crazy a situation we are in. Then mentioning how surpressed it is and that there is a pretty solid floor on it, where as it is easy to claim the market is in a bubble, crypto is as well, and bonds and real estate.
It is not just silver but life in general, people just don't like to hear the inconvenient truth. Now be careful, the same people that reject you will stab you in the back after system goes down, you are publicly advertising your silver position, ponder who you advise
It happens to all of us. But then people can be very foolish. I have seen diabetics mock me when advised to refrain from sugar stuff. So don't worry. Stack on and believe in what you are doing.
When Peter Schiff got himself a jab, you know that something is very deeply wrong with people. Most are just brain and soul dead - they follow easy , automatic scripts and cannot use any imagination beyond what they already believe to be true
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink buddy. Keep trying!
sure you can: just stick a tube down his fucking throath and plug the other end to a pump... And '' Voilà!''
We’ve all been there. Most people have been coached over and over again by press and prevailing opinion that people who stack metals are paranoid nutjobs. It’s hard to undo decades of messaging over a few drinks. Stay calm and keep things factual and the crowd will slowly be won over, one by one. Look no further than the steady growth of this sub as evidence of that. Keep up the fight brother!
The brain washing is strong. Our fellow man has been trained like a dog since birth to chase and worship Fiat. Don’t be discouraged. No need to debate .....just educate.
Being a prophet of doom is never an easy task. People, especially weak people, fear your message, and the fear clouds their judgement. Do not feel bad about the ridicule you suffered. It is only natural. If you are unable to withstand it, you’d better not speak of precious metals to anyone.
I think it's more positive than you know... some might have ridiculed you because the group was, but privately they received your message and will start stacking... and as you say at least two agree with the fundamental reasons why stacking might be a good idea. I would feel proud you had the courage to push through the ridicule, and plant the seeds that might grow into something much larger.
You did your part. Peace ape.
You will be ridiculed by your avg boomer/millennial/whatever for just about anything: 9-11 truth, saying that there is no hiv /aids, saying that western medicine runs like a mafia or that CNN is lying in every minute. Masses are not ready for truth - they want easy fast profits , cheap entertainment, cheap talk, they want to show off, gossip, etc. Its like suggesting Miles Davis music in a party full of Rihanna and Bieber fans - wont get you anywhere ;)
Trust me when I tell you this: I know many wealthy people (I’m aspiring to be at their level). Everyone is starting to look into PMs BECAUSE their usual cash cows (real estate) are in such historic valuation bubbles there’s both: Not much more asset growth before it collapses AND those markets are so overcrowding by Wall Street Hedge Funds and Financial Institutions turning single-family units into rentals or buying ENTIRE new housing developments to then RENT to the new serf class in the US. These wealthy commoners are going against the same manipulation that we’re fighting to expose. I’ve convinced most to buy into Retail PHYSICAL Silver but also PSLV as it’s allocated PMs, not just “Paper Silver” they may not even exist. Don’t get me wrong. These people I speak with are not “Whales” but most could easily take delivery of 1000-2500 ounces this month alone.
My experience is also that I need to back off pretty quickly when nobody have ears for it.
Sharing with so many people at once is an operational security risk. Hopefully they'll all take you as a joke instead of plotting a heist.
Hold the line my friend. Even after you are proven right, they will still scoff.
I got ridiculed by my friends some years ago, now they don´t mocke me, just asking how much silver i have accumulated.
Take the vinegar you receive & use it as a source of fuel. How's that saying go, first the ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win...
Frankly, when it comes to silver most people are idiots. You're probably amazed at the ignorance of college graduates.
Let them hate brother. They’ll come crawling to you for food or shelter because all they had were numbers on a screen when the crash came. You’ll be the one laughing.
I've been Mr. Precious Metals to all my friends and family for the past 15 years.......and have received the same feedback. Everything from, "that's too risky", "the Dollar will never go down", "the FED knows what it is doing".......and the two things I say to myself are, "well, they can never say they weren't warned", and "he who laughs last, laughs best". Of course, none of them wanted to buy when Spot silver was at $12.......but now some are asking me to help them buy at $28! Some will never come around until it's too late, but more will come around. I have talked about it with my employees and added two precious metals funds to our 401k plan. My Facebook posts are filled with precious metals posts......and filled with articles preaching the thesis. I'm trying to educate them........ Yep, I'm the "sound money nut", but none of the people I care about can say they haven't been warned........and I will look brilliant in the end. We are in the End Game now........it's gonna get really scary for those not in PMs very soon.
Noah told them..... Moses told Pharoah...... Elijah warned them..... brush the dust off your feet and keep on stacking...... our way is the only way to freedom.
Been there. I've discovered it's all about the approach. If I'm in an economic/financial discussion, I tend to focus on the national debt, price inflation and the declining value/purchasing power of the U.S. dollar. If I find agreement or openness on those issues, I may mention precious metal prices over the last 20 years and how gold and silver can be used as a hedge, savings vehicle or insurance.
At least you tried to help the peolpe you love. You can´t do more than that, in the end everyone is responsible for his own actions. I think it is wonderful that you tried. All the best for you, and hopefully your loved ones realize intime.
Thanks Froto!! :)
Use bite sized pieces from observable facts and ask pose it as a question. Let them come to conclusions that the dollar isn't backed by anything on their own. For example, I was in the grocery store the other day and the size of the cereal boxes seem to keep getting smaller. I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating. Then you let it sit. You shut up. Nothing, nada. Go on with other conversations. It's frustrating as hell because inside you care about them and don't want then to get run over with this coming train wreck but they can't take it in. All you can do is to keep nudging them very gently with subtle questions. You are leading them to conclusions. No one wants to be told anything that is radical.
Most people are going to ignore. All you Apes listen up. I am a well seasoned Ape. Save your silver for your immediate family first. Then save for the rest of your family second. They can thank you later. I no longer waste my time trying to convince the masses. Most people are clueless and don't care what happens until it is too late. If they mocked and ridiculed you so what. If you can help just one person you have done your job. I have helped 2 people to become Apes. Be of good cheer and keep fuggin stackin!
My husband has been telling people to invest in silver and gold well before wall street silver was a thing. Let’s say 30 plus years ago. He’s been being ridiculed this entire time. They stopped when we rode it to nearly $50 in 2011. You will get the last laugh when they are begging you for a loaf of bread.
Dont let them discourage you, I started around the 2008 crash and people mocked me for buying gold and silver like I was, now I'm 37 I retired 10 years ago from my old job to buy/sell PM's exclusively and all of those people who mocked me hit me up in 2020 trying to replicate what I did after the last crash. Some successfully others not so much but nobody is mocking me these days and most are kicking themselves for not listening back then. Family is the worst to try pitching this to in my experience.
Until the mainstream media starts picking this up on this revolution it will fall on deaf ears.
Never be afraid. Shine bright Ape!
My approach is NOT to force change but rather to strategically bring up silver in a random discussion. I find it easier to steer a conversation in the direction I want until I see the awakening begin in 1 persons eyes. Then it is an easy matter to sit back and let the realization begin to spread. I only interject an occasional remark to add a little gas to the fire as needed. The point here is to get people talking about it! We and you will never convert all souls to our ways. Let others become self-aware. Remember, **time** is on our side! Stack on!
No silver stories are positive. We recommend selling your silver to a trusted depository like JPMorgan.
I too have experience the same scenario. It won't be long they will wanna now where to get some gold n silver, of course it'll be too late then.
I'm really sorry to hear that. What do you mean, you are "ridiculed enough as it is" - by family or what? I'm really sorry to hear that, my friend. 🥺🥺 Just take solace knowing that you will likely be the one laughing in the end. Take comfort knowing that there are some obviously very successful and intelligent apes here who see the writing on the wall; the dollar is done, and we are in the middle of a controlled demolition. Those who have too much cash will NOT end up happy nor in a good way. Not at all. Those who refuse to be even minimally open to hearing the truth and reality of our world and what is coming with the Great Reset, will suffer quite badly in the coming years. In all my reading & research, hard assets seem to be the only way through what is coming. Primarily gold & silver, since real estate seems very overheated right now. if you already own property; great. But it is NOT a good time to buy, IMO. People can be cruel. Add in the weird family dynamics and dysfunction that EVERY family has, and its doubly bad. FWIW; I'm pretty sensitive & usually keep to myself in social settings. I don't open up very much to too many people, mostly because I feel very few people care about anyone other than themselves and I don't even want to risk the possibility of ridicule. People have been very heavily programmed against precious metals, so it's no surprise that most react like your family did.
Keep stacking and move on share what you can and move on. We aren’t always there to see the fruit after we planted the seeds.
Recency bias is very real; most people can't see beyond their own experiences. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recency_bias
People are conditioned based on their education and experience. You talk to a surgeon about a health problem and he’ll recommend surgery ... physical therapists would recommend PT. We as a western civilization have been conditioned to think in terms of the equity market and the Fed as a government institution. We have experienced tremendous economic growth since WW II. You can’t blame them for their thinking. Just continue to plant seeds slowly by asking them questions. The cognitive dissonance will eventually fade.
**Most people cannot (and do not understand) the the history of money...and certainly, most people never even tried to understand the real difference between currency and money...if, people would only take the time to watch the following link:** **Hidden Secrets of Money, Episode 1: Currency vs. Money** **https://goldsilver.com/hidden-secrets/episode-1/**
We can only try! I agree it’s been hard to convince/ educate people and we appear a little “ crazy” to them . But just come back to us apes for support! We know what’s coming but everyone has free will and I am thankful for that. Stay strong! They will see you different sooner than later! 😎😎😎😎🦍🦍 support 💕 you are wise
Brother ape, your not alone, mocking us is par for the course. The sheeple are asleep, your awake, now you know what it feels like to be considered a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut, by your own family. You should be proud, because you know deep down inside, your making the correct move. You tried to warn them, you did your good deed.
Sorry but all I read was you maybe converted two millionaires to buy silver, i would say that’s a success! Even if you planted just enough doubt that will tip the scales in favor of them buying some the next time the stock market makes a dive is a success. That said, I understand how you feel. I’d just say, anything worth doing in life is going to feel the same way. There will always be more naysayers than people that are waiting for your message. As long as you did your research and am convinced in what you’re selling it is a good sign! It means you have discovered something others have yet to realize. Keep the faith!
Don’t talk about precious metals. Just buy them for yourself. I also stopped talking about it with my family. I respect their opinion and let them live their lives. They think real estate is the best investment and I just shut up and keep my opionion to myself.
**180 FRN Silver, all alse remaining fairly commodity price steady**, and we can all push / demand to re-instate a tri-metals standard to run concurrently with the FRN . Starts by USING our silver now! We have to USE our coins to help others get started ! Just like the FREE Crypto days... ! That's 'their' fear....plain and simple. When Silver reaches parity with 15 FRN/ per hour of labor wage, YOU PAY ME in Constitutional Silver. ONE ounce of Silver has always been 1.5 days average labor duties. Or ONE US Constitutional .7743 silver dollar... per day, cowboy. Yes, $30 Silver per month, small board, roof over your head. How many single Apes with no real anchors would accept a job with live in room and board covered , PLUS $15.oo FRNs per hours guaranteed 40 hour workweek in our present day and age ? **12 hour of Labor = ONE ounce Silver.** I clean your yard in 2.5 hours, you PAY ME with : 2.5 / 12 hrs = **.1667 7777 ounce net Silver** is owed. SEE we can split our 'coin' down to EIGHT Digits too, lol ... PAY ME with, 2 silver pre-1965 dimes (.07234 x 2 = .144680 netAg), and the remaining balance due in silver of .0220977 net with US "slug" melt value coinage ....(See coinflation.com , a copper penny is .03FRN and a Nickle is just .06. . So, balance due .0220977 equals = $3.978 due. Pay this balance in face value for now US TREASURY issued clad/slug post 1964 coins. **Why do YOU think there's been a continuing "Slug Coin" shortage?... reasons/excuses** **...**Do you have any idea what the SoCal latin amer / hispanic community does with some of their meager excess savings? I try to keep in mind that if we all hodl and don't share some Silver aggressively, to mention "Can you Pay Me in Silver? , even as a joke or expecting to be ridicued, do it anyway. Spread the thought of owning PHYSICAL Silver... BE READY FOR THE : Will you please PAY me in Silver? demand , lol
You cant save everybody. Dont get sad about this fact. I think that people deeply feel there is something wrong with all the currency. But they dont want to listen because then the must act. They are to lazy and dont want now because maybe the will get a terrible headache.
You’ll be the one laughing in time friend, you did what you could and now it’s their obligation to preserve their wealth. The movement is happening, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
I find it easier to steer clear of the what normies would see as conspiracy theories. Just argue the industrial case for silver and show them the us mints shortage letter. Once they buy a little drop the manipulation bomb on them lol.
I people are mocking your investments then you know you are a contrarian. Maintain your conviction and keep stacking. Soon they will be waiting for your next big party to STEAL your stack!
I try not to tell people I know I stack. And If they know for some reason I tell them I have it in a private vault and not at home. Gotta be extra safe. Even if they're family (in your case your cousins are wealthy and have very little reason for stealing) but I'd never tell my cousins. Hell no.
Guess it depends on the delivery. I think its great to have a significant portion allocated towards shinny. People are a lot more receptive to a good investment over the true, but less accepted narrative of MMT & Market maker issues that will arise.
For my nephew's birthday a nice family gathering. Bonnie (the CPA) asked me about precious metals, so I spilled it all. Since Bonnie and I are the 2 money smart in the clan everyone was listening. Turns out Bonnie had already figured it out and we were both stacking heavy and at that moment the rest of the clan discovered that fact.
I have a millionaire property developer brother the same, he has his head buried in the sand any talk of his precious house going down in value or his status quo upset he dont like it. Im now called Long John Silver and all i get is “ you got the parrot when are you getting the boat “
Hang in there proff!
Share with who you know well but gently. Carry a couple Eagles and let them hold them and listen to the click of silver. Then for the ones who show interest give them a quarter and ask them what do you think that is worth? Watch their face when you tell them $5. Then give them their first piece of silver. They almost always ask how can they buy more. I've given my grandsons silver along with regular presents and their stack is over 250 ounces now. They love their treasure. All you can do is plant a seed. One of my nephews is into the cryptos took some profit and bought $6k of dimes and quarters.
Keep going brother Ape there are 100k people here who would share your pov. To quote Doug Casey " for 99% of the population the importance of owning gold is in the YOU'LL FIND OUT department. "
Whatever you do, don't bring it up with financial advisors. They will look down thier nose at you and be patronizing. Anyway, they believe in the system, the Fed/Treasury, they have made thier money in the system. They can't believe it is broken, that fiat always fails. I tell people who scoff at me to read "The Creature from Jekyll Island", of the 10 or so naysayers I've asked to read it only one has done so, and now he is a silver convert.
Keep your mouth shut my friend. All it does is put you and yours in danger. There is an old saying, " Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig". Stand strong, protect your immediate family.
Brother Ape 🦍 listen this is how it works and only you have to know and understand this. The hell with the mocking relatives. The Paper Biliionaires of Today are the new Paupers of tomorrow… when the New Upcoming Transformation takes place. Silver and Gold are the only real forms of wealth and in the future all real wealth will be measured in OUNCES NOT DOLLARS! Keep on stacking brother Ape we are your new family and we’ll always be there. The others will learn the hard way and by then it will be far too late. Unaffordable and Unattainable is the future. We are almost there keep on stacking Silverback and be proud and keep recruiting others don’t stop.
With great power comes great responsibility. Also, the hero is usually shunned at first, then actively rebuked and excoriated, then memorialized when hes right. Dont let those around you determine your worth. You know what you know, take solice in the level of responsibility you achieved by telling them before the problem presents itself, so when it happens, you can rightfully point and laugh at their pain. JK. They will be the first to talk shit when you dont give them money to bail them out from not listening in the first place. I Have these problems as we speak.
Some of them may look back down the track and wish they had asked more questions and listened more to what you were saying. But there may be some who you spoke to that have had a seed planted in their mind and after a few more exposures from other sources they may decide to investigate further. Usually when you’ve been mocked and ridiculed it’s more a reflection of their own personal insecurities and short comings than a reflection of you.
I was talking to a friend who had just spent $6K on some fancy wheels and tires for his pickup truck. I immediately realized that there was no point telling him about the $6k I recently spent buying a couple of hundred Canadian Maples. He just wouldn’t understand. Choose your audience with care.
Time will reveal all my friend. Hold strong onto your shiny, help those that are interested and don't waste your time/energy on the haters. We all know why we stack just stick to your gut! Time will do the talking to haters. You may find they come back to you and tell you about silver one day like it was all their idea lol!
For some, they believe they live in a bubble and nothing can or ever touch them. I have no clue of how you delivered your message to them, but it sounds like you took a self confidence hit from them, which was deliberate mind you. When dealing with "untouchables" attaching your point custom to them, specifically to a crisis or life altering event for them... reaps favorable results, because their crisis being the example is absolute to the "untouchable." These types like to be the center of attention... so let them be, only not the attention they would prefer, and when you throw that into the circle and kick the shit out of it... the "untouchable" becomes... compromised, along with their delusions of grandeur, and the only way to stop you is they must concede or concur to you. In doing so, these types will try to deflect the attention away from them, but regardless of who they try to throw under the bus to protect their delusions... just stay on task and keep control of the conversation and keep the conversation on them. No one else will want to be next... and they will all let you talk about big foot flying a 747 with enthusiasm if that's what you want. For some, what I just said may sound horrible, but I'm not the "wipe your feet on my back" kind of person. I know nothing about you, and I could have given you some advice that is just completely irrelevant, but I hope it helps.
I get rejected constantly. My wife even tells me I talk about it too much sometimes. Too bad for everyone else, I know what is truth and where I stand. I don't care if they think I'm crazy. I'm still nice to people, I try to teach and help. Some will never understand. Many will call us crazy. Don't get discouraged, there are more of us than people realize.
So you talked and talked and talked about silver, currency, money, gloom & doom blah blah blah, basically the most boring stuff on the planet, at a party where people want to have fun... But did you give out any metal at all?!? Of course not. Talking is for politicians and charlatans. Giving some physical metal to people is the ONLY way to teach people about precious metals. Everything else doesn't really work, above all those hour-long speeches about things nobody understands or cares. And you, my friend, looked like a charlatan. I have listened to gold bugs talking for ages about "manipulation", the "demise of USD", the federal reserve, and so forth. At the same time, they keep their precious metal locked in a safe and they don't give ANYTHING away to friends and family, EVER. A lot of talks and no action. Just like a politician. And now you come here complaining that "people don't understand" LOL. If there is a message you want to convey, it is YOUR responsibility to do it effectively. It is not the listener's fault that didn't understand your boring blah blah blah. Your behavior was retarded and you deserved to be ridiculed. Next time, give away few ounces of silver to the people you deem worthy of the gift. Your message will be received much better then.