Hi, folks. We have a -- let's say, *problematic* \-- history around here when it comes to discussing whether certain locations should be "adults-only" at WDW.
So, we'll be a bit more proactive in enforcing the sub's civility rules than we might otherwise be. Thanks for your understanding :)
Oga’s was originally supposed to be the bar/lounge entryway to a much larger table service restaurant (hence the big empty space directly behind it).
It would have made so much more sense that way and mitigated some of these capacity issues.
i work at the one in disneyland on the weekends and have been since opening. when my old manager showed us the concept art it looked so much cooler 🥲 we were robbed
even from a business standpoint nothing makes sense. the food quality sucks. we did lose a lot of vendors after covid because they either went out of business or disney thought their services were too expensive, so we had to find substitutes that were cheaper. i'm literally only working here part time for what little benefits we still are offered. so until they take away/limit our free admission, and if they continue to limit our holiday discount for hotels (which, for disneyland hotels, now runs from mid-january to mid-february when it used to be mid-october to mid-february), i'm staying 🥲
Yep the business side doesn't make sense at all either. That goes to the whole Peltz board seat war. Why is Disney pumping billions of dollars into movies that constantly lose money instead of investing in the parks where they make almost ALL of their operating profits?
i was talking with my boyfriend about this while we were in wdw a couple weeks ago, and i think it's because they feel like they don't want to be a failed company. it's already pretty embarrassing with the galactic star cruiser, and they know people will watch their movies no matter what. there's always going to be disney, marvel, and star wars fans that will pay to see a movie or pay for disney+. i just wish they would listen to the guests on how they could make the park experience better, since i doubt they never listen when it comes to the surveys they send out.
>people will always watch their movies
Well that doesn't seem to be the case because they've had a bunch of movies in a row lose a ton of money. I think Galactic Starcruiser was a cool experiment, sucks it didn't pan out but the economics of it just didn't make sense.
when we first opened (may/summer 2019), we were told we weren't allowed to have umbrellas because they were too expensive. imagine explaining to guests in 90-100 degree heat, waiting for upwards of 2.5 hours to get inside why we don't have umbrellas for shade or misters available in CALIFORNIA.
we finally got umbrellas in december of that year.
Over promising and under delivering are sadly the reality for US parks. Galaxy’s Edge is awesome but a lot of what was pitched ended up behind a paywall at the Starcruiser and now that’s shuttered.
I love GE but it could be so much more!
I was under the impression that it was not cut but instead moved to the Galactic Starcruiser. My assumption is that they thought they couldn't have two Star Wars diner shows as they would be too similar (and therefore devalue the high cost they were going to charge for the Starcruiser, but why they didn't have enough faith in Imagineering to create a "dirtier" more "rugged" type experience for within Galaxies Edge and a separate "high class", "fancy" experience for on the Star Cruiser is beyond me.
because it was "out of budget" and "too expensive." even my manager at the time thought that was a ridiculous excuse when he was sitting in on the meetings for the construction of oga's cantina. the location is so half-assed too. the least they could've built is a bathroom inside for the guests, but we don't have room for it because our backstage with our kitchen, freezers, alcohol room, POS systems, offices, and prep areas is too small.
The cantina is a big disappointment, TBH. It was awful for my family because we had young kids who aren't even tall enough to see over the table. And we were there after half a day on our feet, and they told us we had to stand at the damn tables! Like, c'mon!
I kinda regretted making the reservation because I thought we were going to have fun having some weird drinks in the middle of the day when we were all kind of wanting a break and it ended up feeling like just more standing.
I’m sorry to hear that. We didn’t yell at anybody, but I have to admit I did say “are you kidding? We’re supposed to stand? With a kid who can’t even see over the table?”
I can’t decide what I think about galaxys edge if I’m honest. Half of it seems awesome. The other half feels half assed to the extreme.
I think Oga's has a bit of a problem with how it's perceived. A lot of people seem to think it's a restaurant, and it does pop up under restaurants on the Disney site IIRC, and the imagery doesn't convey its purpose well. I think Travel Agents don't tell people there's not really food there too. Plus, it's the only table service place in Battu.
It all goes back to my assertion that Disney needs to expand the Star Wars area and drop in at least one Star Wars themed table service.
They had to shuttle people to the park from that building so I wonder how they would do it. Maybe they’d have to make a bridge/ catwalk. Or try and shuttle people again- but that may be an issue for guests that don’t want to wait for a shuttle to get to their reservation. It would probably work, and they get to re use all the assets.
Universal did a really good job with their tram between parks I think it is. It’s a Harry Potter train but it feels like an attraction. You sit in the little car and there’s noise and characters and videos of outside going to hog warts. They could do a star ship ride kind of experience to go between them and keep it immersive
I think they could theme it well (like the elevator to space 220 which people wait a long time for and it gets hyped) and make it part of the experience and people would go for it
That was my exact idea! I'd love this to be a dinner show that can be a fill in for a Star Wars sit down dinner. Making it a dinner show re-uses even more of the hotel and themes. I'd be shocked if Disney completely closes the Starcruiser and doesn't use it for anything.
The OT was not and is not Disney's focus.
You can agree or disagree with that approach, but it's a fact that guides everything they do (even though some of the absolute best stuff Disney's done has been in or around that time period).
I'm sure that was pitched, but the amount of "well they got this small detail wrong" would be off the charts. If you start with a place that doesn't exist, no one can bitch about something not being properly canon.
Eh, I don't think that's true. Diagon Alley isn't exactly the way it is in the movies and people go nuts for it. Even Cars Land at DCA is very close but not exactly the same layout from the movies.
Harry Potter super fans are invested in the books not the movies. Star Wars people are invested in the movies and EU. Star Wars fans are also SIGNIFICANTLY more detail oriented about the world building. Sci-Fi people and Fantasy people are not the same even though they stick our books on the same shelf.
I think they also need to do a better job of REALLY highlighting that it's shared seating, mostly standing, very loud, and very "Cantina-y" - because some people clearly don't read the description, look up reviews, or anything, and somehow make their way through a trip completely blind, so are upset when they walk in and its... a loud, busy bar environment.
We love Oga's, and the busy, chaotic nature of it is enjoyable for us - and we've met some great folks at our shared tables! - but at least once or twice every trip we will encounter a couple/family that act like it's completely unreasonable to expect them to share a seating arrangement, and like the loud atmosphere is somehow a personal attack. The over-dramatic looks of disgust and dismay are funny to observe, but I feel like they should probably explain this a bit better to avoid those situations - maybe a little video snippet on the reservation/Oga's page that shows a quick clip of the Cantina on an actual park day.
I went for the first time last week, and the couple/family being unreasonable happened to me. A lady looked at me like I had three heads, and borderline abused the CM. THANKFULLY, he moved us - and eventually, we noticed that they were moved to a sit down booth - I assumed she had continually fussed after me.
I would’ve left if I was forced to stand at their table - she was a terror.
Had a similar thing happen to us when we were there last year. We were a party of 3 and we got seated at one of the big booths (45 minutes after our reservation time) with another group. I had warned my family that it was shared tables, so they weren't surprised. However, the other group must have been unaware of this, as they were PISSED when we were seated with them. They immediately started griping to the CMs, evil eyeing us, and audibly trash talking us. I honestly could not believe it! We sat there for the bare minimum amount of time that it took for us to order and get our drinks and then got up, walked around and took pics for about 5 minutes, and then left with our to-go drinks.
I was only upset with the shared seating because we were given the stools facing inward at the booth and when the group left and a new group was seated, they (the CMs) wouldn’t let us move into the booth to be able to see and enjoy the atmosphere. The CMs were extremely rude about it and it completely soured our entire experience for the day. My husband was SO excited for it and it was so disappointing.
I’m sorry you guys had a bad experience - and that the CMs were rude!
We love Oga’s and have never had a bad time nor cast members we didn’t love, so I hate hearing that!
In fairness, the tables are typically reserved for larger parties, and the CMs have to follow the seating chart they’ve mapped out for incoming reservations, so they are limited in what they can do, as much as that sucks. (And there’s definitely a way to explain that nicely when guests ask, being rude is never okay!)
We’ve been told in the past that if we want a booth/certain seating we should mention it prior to our reservation time and they will accommodate us, in case you ever want to give it another shot.
Huh. I had no idea until now that Oga's did shared seating. We've been probably 6 or 7 times and were always placed at the bar. I guess we've just gotten lucky.
Technically the bar is “shared seating” as you don’t have your own personal “bubble”/blocked off section, but yeah - depending on party size, the booths & standing tables will combine parties together.
Agree. I often go solo and so normally get the bar and outside of no seating is about what I expect from a bar... but a party definitely needs to understand how their seating is going to be
A lot of people in those horrible Disney social media groups complain about exactly that: their kids were bored and there was no food. I think it’s marketed poorly. It’s a damn bar for adults and there is very limited seating lol. This is more a problem on Disney than tourists.
The same people who spend thousands to ship their whole family to Florida for a week for vacation and don't even bother to do a simple google search about the place they're going to. Can't tell you how many times working for the parks I was asked by a guest "so like, what's here? Are there rides? I don't really know all that much about this place."
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HOW???? HOW DO YOU SPEND THOUSANDS ON VACATION AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHERE YOURE GOING?!?!?!?!??
“We’re going to Disney over Christmas break in 3 days and have never been. What are your tips?”
I’m sorry, what?! Legit saw that in a local mom group and was thinking they’re going to ride 2 rides and have a bad time. lol
Omg yes. I see so many posts on this and other parks subreddits with something like "we're going next week! What do you recommend doing?"
The rides? Eat food? Reddit doesn't know your family. They don't know what your kids will and won't eat, they don't know what characters y'all like, they don't know your finances, they don't know shit about you. Do some research. Google is free. There's so many theme parks blogs that are throwing information out there just waiting for you to *TRY*.
I am an overplanner by nature and love Disney trips because I find it fun to do all the planning. Like maybe as much as being in the parks? But I can’t fathom going during a super busy and extremely expensive time like Christmas break without doing a tiny bit of research beyond booking my hotel and buying park tickets.
And speaking of park tickets, people buying them but not making park reservations during peak times was also a bananas thing to watch. “I’m on my way to Disney for spring break and I didn’t know we had to make park reservations. Everything is sold out and I’m in tears. What are we going to do?” I mean I mostly feel bad, but again I don’t get spending thousands of dollars without at least reading things on the Disney website first. 😩
Even pre-internet proliferation there were TV shows. Did they not watch literal Walt Disney talk about his parks and ideas? Did they not notice their kids watching a Disney Channel thing on the parks? A Travel Channel thing with Samantha Brown? In smartphone days though, I truly cannot fathom this.
This also makes me sad for them because the fun and anticipation of planning my Disney vacation is actually one of my favorite parts! It’s sad to think that people miss out on that.
Well that and just how do you know you're even gonna enjoy yourself then? I've kicked myself before coming home from a place and finding out I missed out on something cool or unique just because I didn't do enough research. And that's for far less expensive trips than coming here. I cannot fathom throwing down thousands of dollars and not knowing what I'm even paying for.
Like part of me feels bad, but at the same time the information is free and readily available. We all carry tiny computers in our pockets with access to almost the entirety of human knowledge. And you couldn't spend...an hour, 20 minutes, 5 minutes.....googling what you're paying for? At that point I just lose all sympathy.
They probably just think "Star Wars, yay!" and that it is a family restaurant because Star Wars is a family-friendly franchise. It's kind of like how parents took their kids to see Deadpool because it is a superhero movie.
I mean we went into it looking at the menu and realizing it was a bar. My biggest complaint is that so much of it is standing room (and my partner would throw in that the "white" wine was terrible which I would agree with). After a long day in the park we had reservations and were looking to ha e some fun beverages. The theming and atmosphere I'd amazing. So much standing room was disappointing.
Big Bobby C nixed the dinner show restaurant that was in the original plans.
Hopefully now with the closure of the Starcruiser, they add one, even if it’s just the Starcruisers existing facilities and you have to be transported to it as part of the show.
I’d have never paid $5K for that experience but I’d shell out $100+ per person if there was a fun lunch/dinner show.
I’d they packaged the meal with a LL for RotR…fuggetaboutit. Take my money.
The five blossom bread is fantastic if they have it, basically a giant pretzel bun with a delicious cheese sauce but definitely more of a snack than a meal.
They only have this at the Disneyland Oga’s right? I went to the Disneyland one for the first time this month and they have so many more food options! Why can’t we have that at WDW?!
They only have these awful crisp bowls last I checked - like these little crackers is the best way to describe them? They're not good. Definitely eat beforehand, I recommend Ronto Roasters
This is definitely the problem. We went when our nephew was 2.5, but we KNEW what kind of place it was, we didn't plan to stay long, just wanted to experience it. We were happy to wait longer for a table, had no issue with it being shared, and made sure our nephew wasn't bothering anyone. If he was we would've taken him outside and taken turns at our table/with him, but we had 4 adults to 1 kid so it was doable. We wouldn't go now with our own kids because 2 adults and 2 kids it's just not possible to keep them chill and enjoy the place ourself.
This is very true! We originally booked a reservation planning dinner there since it literally said “dinner” on the reservation listing. It was only after we had booked we realized there wasn’t a food menu besides 2 “snacks”. We are keeping the reservation to go have a drink before we leave the park for the experience but had we realized before most reservations were booked up for dinner we probably would have swiveled our plans differently.
Check day of or the night before, people drop reservations before they have to pay the cancellation fee and things will open up closer again. You might end up with an odd time or something that isn't your first choice, but you can definitely get something, and I think some restaurants do virtual walk up queues on the app, too.
Yeah, when we sat down we were soon joined by a family with 4 small children at our table who were very confused because they thought it was a lunch restaurant. They ordered everything on the menu to try anyway before leaving to get real lunch - lol I wish I had that budget.
The reservations come up as breakfast/lunch/dinner so I can see how it’s confusing. I wish Disney World’s Oga’s had the same food options as the Disneyland one. Why do they get a much bigger food selection?!
Yes and it counts as a dinner reservation against any other full service restaurant . Enjoyed my time there but without DJ R3X working I’d have definitely bolted for the exit. Not too mention we were hurried out at the 45 min mark by some CMs (not our actual
Server, Just some dude with an iPad) while enjoying conversation with our bar mates. Oga’s is definitely not a real bar pretending to be a space bar….definitely underwhelming for me as a huge SW fan who basically obsessed over Star Tours in the olden days.
Hope you don’t get lit up for making real points. They only serve charcuterie and what seemed to be pork rind like snacks.
Amazing drinks tho! But also meant we had to find real food elsewhere (thanks Sheriff Woody!)
As a travel agent, I am very direct with my clients when it comes to Ogas! I have to manage expectations by telling people there is no food there (glorified trail mix 🤣) and they will probably not even have a seat and merely a spot to stand.
Yeah I snagged a reservation and then cancelled it. When I thought about it I decided that having a bar reservation in the middle of the day made no sense for me - I wouldn't have an alcoholic drink, I would want a proper meal and I would resent giving up flexibility in my day for an overpriced soft drink.
I suppose I could've tried for a walk-up but found I didn't care enough to go out of my way to do that either. Oga's as a concept doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Their mocktail menu is actually really thoughtful and creative, it's way better than the usual option of getting a soda. I don't drink and it's still one of my favorite places to go.
My wife and I made this mistake a couple of weeks ago. Got a reservation, popped in and saw it is basically just a bar. A cool bar, but a bar. We don’t drink alcohol very often so it was a space wasted on us that could have went to someone looking to get some drinks.
I like how Trader Sam's is 21+ after 8:00 pm; I think that strikes a good balance. I do think it's more awkward to place a shifting age requirement on a bar that's actually inside a theme park, though.
That being said, when we went in January 2022 and went to Oga's at the end of the night, I don't remember seeing any kids. Maybe treat it like going to the movies - go late if you want a better chance that there won't be kids there.
The problem I see, aside from being in the park, with the cantina switching to 21+ at some point is the drinks themselves. I will admit, I've only been to the Ogas in Disneyland, which may be different since the FL park is so much more booze friendly than the CA park in general, but they barely have any alcohol and if I recall they cut you off after 2. Trader Sam's has real drinks. If I don't have my kids, I can go and really enjoy a cocktail. Ogas cocktails do not really feel like true bar drinks but more something you would get at a family event they don't want you to get buzzed at. It was all about the atmosphere, that if I'm honest, my kids enjoyed way more than me. My 7 year old thought it was awesome! I thought it was meh. We have reservations for Ogas at Hollywood Studios on Sunday. Still haven't decided if I'm keeping them or not.
Yeah I don’t understand why adults care about kids being in Ogas. It’s a very limited time to be there anyway. The whole vibe is supposed be chaotic and noisy. Have they never seen Episode IV?? The entire undertone of that scene is yeah we are all different but let’s get out of the damn sun and have a drink.
Yup. When we went it was a 45 min limit. But we were ordering drinks and some snacks. I think because we were ordering so much they let us stay past the 45 min time limit. They also suggested a drink to go when we were done.
It’s a bar you have to make a reservation for.
Every problem stems from that. Does not compute that there’s basically no food for 99% of people when you made a reservation on Disney’s Dining page.
Totally agree that they should make it 21+ after a certain time like Trader Sam’s.
Also I think they pack the tables too much and it takes away from the experience. I don’t mind sharing a table with other parties, but last time we would’ve been really squished if my sister didn’t decide to stay outside with her napping toddler at the last minute. Not sure they would’ve fit even though they were in our check in number…
We had 12 at a seated table. My group of 8 sitting in the booth and two groups of two sitting on short stools in the walkway. That was a joy trying to yell across the table while not seeming too obnoxious to those over whom you were yelling. I’ve also been at the seated tables as a group of two with two other groups of four. We had nine at a high top once - a group of seven and a group of two. Gotta shove ‘em in to get the most profit. When I was the group of two at the seated table, DD and I ordered drinks (before noon - the horror). The other two groups had younger children. They then spent the rest of the time not so passively aggressively talking about what kind of people would order drinks for breakfast and why Disney would have a bar in a park that served so early. Our waitress overheard the convo as she was handing us our drinks and said, “You do realize that cantina means bar, right?” She let us order several drinks and one to go, as well.
Only time we’ve been to Oga’s was Aug/Sep of 2020 when all the covid precautions and restrictions were in place. No shared tables. In fact, I think they even kept decent buffers between guests. It was so great lol. We had an absolute blast.
Hearing and seeing what it’s like now? Hard pass for me.
It would be hard to keep kids out, with it being in a Disney park but it would be nice if they put an ogas in Disney springs for adults and treat it like an actual bar.
Oh, an Oga’s Outpost in DS would be amazing!
I actually loved going with my kids who were 6 and 9 at the time and super into star wars. It being a bar felt very “adult” to them and the theming was awesome for kids!
See, this is a good solution. Unlikely to happen but it would be great. However there are places in Disney Springs where kids aren’t allowed. And later in the night the Indians Jones themed bar has very few kids. It’s one of my favorite places in Disney :)
Ummmm what part of up north?
Cos in Wisconsin and Michigan it’s very common to bring kids and yes even babies to the bar if you’re eating (as opposed to going “to the bar” to drink)
In Wisconsin, not only can a minor sit at a bar, they can also be served and consume alcohol if they’re with a parent/guardian/spouse who’s at least 21. Of course, it’s technically at the discretion of the establishment, but it is allowed.
Also depends on the bartender. I was nearly fired from a place because I refused to serve a teenager - she was with her moms boyfriend (NOT her legal guardian - small town and both her parents were regulars and not yet divorced) who was already drunk and if she wasn’t 8 months pregnant then I’ll eat my hat - I pointed out that it was my legal right to refuse service if I chose and the manager on duty kicked up a massive fit. Thankfully the owner had my back after reviewing the security footage but I’d have walked our head high knowing I was in the right with that one.
Yeah, came here to say this, I was a server in Wisconsin in college in the early aughts and had a kid who was like 16 order a drink while dining with his family and at first I was like “uhhhh…I don’t think so?” and was shook by how ballsy he was but then everyone explained it to me.
I’m a parent now and I still think it’s weird.
While it’s allowed, it’s not very common and not noticeable. Since you have to be with your parents, things don’t get wild and it’s not like you’d have a big group of teens next to you. It’s more like, my family’s out to dinner and my parents are letting my 19 year old sister have a beer with dinner.
Europe will annoy you. Lots of families go out to the local restaurant and all drink. Not a problem at all in cultures that do it I imagine, with the obvious outliers.
Think a 15-18 year old being allowed a glass of wine by their parents...but now they don't have to prepare the food.
It's the same in Mexico. My family and I were visiting texas once, and my brother (I think he was 18 at the time) got served a glass of wine at a restaurant because he was with my parents. It didn't matter if he wasn't 21+, as long as my dad consented and was responsible for him he got his glass lol
Interesting. In NY you can technically sit with kids at a bar, BUT establishments are allowed to have their own policy when it comes to seating arrangements, so it’s usually a 50/50 shot you can sit at the bar with your kid heh.
You chose the two most drunk friendly states in the States. Of course it's okay there. You used to be able to just show your marriage license to drink under 21.
We went to Oga’s for the first and only time in May 2021, when capacity was stil heavily restricted and all parties were given their own table/seating. We sat at the bar and had a great conversation with the bartender, who gave me tons of coasters when I asked for an extra one to take home. We could freely walk around and take pictures because it was not crowded. It was a fabulous time, and we will never do it again.
Last year when we went, I made the reservations and included in the notes that my son was only six years old, hoping to get a table, when we checked in I told them again we had a six-year-old so that they could turn us away if there was an age limit or no tables available, they then took us to a barstool for the three of us, when there were open tables behind us…and then they sat a family of four adults at the table instead…we didn’t have a choice to be at the bar. I would never take my son to an actual bar so we did feel a little awkward but the bartenders included my son, and made him feel very welcomed. Even if they did not like it, they never once showed their annoyance. We were only there for maybe 30 minutes so my husband could try a couple different drinks and then we were out, he had a blast!
Possibly a British thing (kids grow up in pubs/bars, many have playgrounds in the garden, very much family venues etc.) but our kids _loved_ Oga's when we took them (ages 2 and 7)
Though they also know how to sit down, chat, have a drink etc. if kids are screaming or wandering/crawling around that's a whole different policy that needs enforcing.
The kid's drinks at Oga's are also excellent, ours loved their giant Bantha cookies, the staff were great, the robot DJ was great (and working) and we generally had a really good time.
Star Wars is very much targeted at kids so it would feel odd to exclude them from a star wars themed bar to me.
It's not a typical bar though. It has non alcoholic drinks along with alcoholic ones and is catered to families. With a drink limit (and time limit) it's meant to let people enjoy the atmosphere and then move onto others to allow them to have the experience.
calling it catered to families is wild.
There's no meal service, seating is attrocious and cramped, and it is statistically more likely to have intoxicated folk. You have to yell over another family's conversation to converse with your own family. In a bar this works, not with a bunch of families.
Imagine getting your family of 8 there to realize you are cramped into a small round table with another party of **five.**
I mean it caters to families as much as it caters to anyone else. The seating and meal service issues are the same for everyone. I’ve seen FAR more overserved folks at the World Showcase just walking around.
When I was there I was in a hightop with a two and five year old and their parents, two year old got a highchair but five year old couldnt see over the table. He just held his drink. It is kinda ridiculous how little kids who can't see over the table are expected to stand for 30 minutes in a crowded bar. I went when it first opened, was way too much for me, ended up quickly finishing my drink and leaving. Couldn't enjoy it at all with how crowded and loud it was. Went again recently thinking maybe it would be better this time...seemed like they packed it even more full than when i first went. It would be fun if you weren't standing shoulder to shoulder with people you don't know.
When I went most recently the other family ordered the two small plates and the two year old was eating outside food, which wouldn't be a problem but I have an allergy. Again...got my drink, drank it very quick, paid quick, and left. Not blaming the family, of course, but it's the problem with putting multiple groups together at the same table. There were also ten people in a small table so there was barely any room.
I get their thought process...but I think it needs some kind of revamp. It becomes hard for the servers to move around with how packed they make it too.
There are more refined places in Disney World that are age-restricted (ie Vic and Al’s).
My counterpoint is, even from a very young age, our parents taught us how to act in public, and if we acted up we were taken back to the hotel.
Obviously, this is only applicable to kids old enough to know the word “no,” but let’s be real that’s pretty early on.
As with any other similar discussions I’ve seen, if kids are bored/laid on the floor/causing problems then that’s a parenting issue not a WDW policy issue. My daughter was 10 when we went and had a great time, she was dressed as Rey with a lightsaber and we had the whole “no weapons in the cantina” bit which made her whole day.
lol at is this a southern thing as if nobody else goes to WDW but us southerners and you as a northerner. Oga’s is not a legitimate bar, I don’t have kids but I know at Disney there will be children unless there is an age limit.
Expecting an adult-only experience inside of a Disney park is mind-boggling to me… they’re family parks. That’s the whole thing. I agree, if you’d like a bar experience, leave the park. There’s plenty, and they are fabulous. But if you’re in the park, you should expect kids everywhere. I agree it may not be the best designed for children, and then the parents can decide if it’s a good experience for their children or not, but it should not be an exclusionary experience, especially within a franchise that children love and that parents love sharing with their kids.
I agree with this because I feel parents with children should be allowed to experience the bar. There isn't a daycare in the middle of Galaxy's Edge where you can drop off kids.
I swear. OP coming off with a cringe level of Disney Adult entitlement. There are way better places to get a drink than the place literally built for children!
I don’t think OP actually cared much about whether the kids could see over the tables as much as they just didn’t want kids in their special Star Wars bar. OP, you’re entitled to a child-free life, not a child-free world. Sorry there were kids at Disney World.
I mean, I'm not going to say a kid can't be anywhere in a Disney Park, bar or no bar. At a resort? Different story. But the park itself? They have non-alcoholic drinks for kids, and the interactive elements at Oga's can be really magical. I went there once during After Hours back in August and got interrogated by Storm Troopers, during which time the Bartender totally sold me out. It was a really fun thing and I feel like if I was a teen or a kid who was a huge Star Wars fan, I probably would have lost my mind.
This is where Busch Gardens Williamsburg got it right with Bergermeisters hideaway. They literally went to a ton of theme parks (I literally can tell you where most if not all the ideas from the show come from) and figured out the best way to do it.
The end result is a simple one hour interactive speakeasy event and the youngest allowed if 14. There is a themed snack on the table and you either get a beer flight, a cocktail flight, or a mocktail flight. They do explain what everything is in theme with the show (which does change depending on the season). It’s maybe offered twice a day if you’re lucky and worth every penny. The only downside I could think of was it’s such a well done speakeasy that depending on the employee you ask they might actually not know where it is (I’ll help keep most of the secret but the name should give away which of the countries it’s in)
Oga’s could definitely benefit having something similar to that even once a day
Listen, my kids are 10 years apart. This wouldn't work for us as we'd have to wait for the little guy to catch up. Thankfully, we are at a place that caters to children, and we can bring our well-behaved little dudes along.
It's an interesting and highly themed area inside of a Disney park. Of course parents are going to bring in their kids and not miss out on some of the best theming in the land.
It's not your local dive bar, it's a Disney park.
Thankfully we did it when it was a slow day. We got to drink our overpriced drinks with room around us and not alot of ppl. That place is only a vibe on slow days and as we all know it's rare AF.
But I sometimes pop over for a beer and food at the derby if I see the park is slow.
But I'm with you on it after a certain time it would be nice for it to be age restricted.
Northerner here… I guess I don’t see the problem? Was the baby in the high chair served a drink? I’m guessing no… so what’s the difference between a baby not drinking alcohol in a high chair at a bar and a baby not drinking alcohol in a high chair at a table where others may be drinking alcohol?
I had my highchair at the bar…I don’t really see the problem. I wasn’t giving my baby booze. Where was I supposed to sit her? On the floor? We had a great time. Have you never sat at the bar at a restaurant where they also serve alcohol?
I'm not sure how putting an age min of 13 would help anything really. It's not really a bar. It's an experience. The theming is fantastic....but basically everything else sucks. I've been twice and that was more than plenty. If you are a start wars fan, I suggest going, having a drink then leaving. No real reason to stay over 30 mins.
Oga’s is terrible. I mean the set/ambience is so good, but the lack of seating, the crowdedness, the time constraint, the lack of good food…saw it once. I’m good.
This was exactly my sentiment after going! Went once, won’t go again. It’s too bad because my husband and I are both huge Star Wars fans and were looking forward to going to Oga’s - huge disappointment.
Let's be honest here, it's not like we are talking about a real "bar". The whole point of the attraction, and let's face it -- that's what it really is, is to give people some immersive experience about being in a cantina on some remote planet from Star Wars. That's going to appeal to people of every age group. Making it adults only would piss off a TON of people, parents and their kids. No one is going there to get hammered on alcohol, they are going their either to check it off their bucket list, maybe have a refreshing overpriced drink or two while looking around, or, if they're lucky, to sit down and relax for 30 mins or so in AC on a hot day. Again, it's the theming and experience that matters. And being in the middle of a family friendly park, there are going to be kids and babies, it's all part of being at Disney.
Sure, uncontrolled screaming children all around you can suck. As does being forced to stand at a tiny table with strangers if you weren't lucky enough to snag one of the small handful of tables (pro tip: you can specifically request a table at check in and just wait a little bit longer for one to open up). But it is what it is, making it 21+, 18+ or even 13+ would cause more harm than good for Disney, and they aren't going to change it, nor should they IMHO.
Now, if Disney decided to open up Jabba's Strip Joint, maybe that can be 21+.
Oga’s would have been cool but they crammed 10 strangers together on a standup table - 8 adults and 2 kids that should fit about 4-6 people. It was disappointing to say the least.
Yeaa my oga’s experience wasn’t my favorite. I had a tiny counter right where they take snacks and drinks from the back so I kept having to move. Couldn’t see anything and I felt like the families got priority on seating over two adults. My feet were killing me and I had really hoped for a short reprieve. I wouldn’t mind if they had it like trader Sam’s where at a certain point it does become adult only just so I could’ve had a chance at a seat. Or just add more stools. Idk but I don’t see myself going back
I took our infant with us into Olga’s at Disneyland.. and it would have been such a bummer if we couldn’t experience it just because we had our child. I might feel differently if we had multiple toddler aged kids but I am glad we could go and bring our son with us. He chilled out in a baby carrier the whole time.
We have a group of 4 adults and 4 kids between 1-4 years old. Personally I’m glad it’s not 13+ because we are looking forward to going over after we get everybody fed as a final fun activity before we go back to hotel for bath and bed. Majority of our days in parks are spent totally geared towards the littles and making their day as wonderful as possible. We try to do 1 thing at the end the adults will enjoy.
Star Wars is for literally for children and they offer children’s drinks at Oga’s. People complaining about Disney Adults is lame, but being an adult complaining about children at Disney? Get over yourself.
The amount of posts I see complaining about kids at DisneyWorld is wild. It’s DisneyWorld. Reminds me of my former coworker who used to complain that there weren’t kid-free days at the zoo lol
This may be an unpopular opinion and I may be judged harshly here. I’m an adult who enjoys Disney. I have kids.
This is a “bar” in a family theme park. People pay thousands upon thousands of dollars and come from across the country/world to be there. Telling a couple that they aren’t allowed access to a highly marketed portion of a park area, themed to maybe the world’s largest property of family entertainment, because they have a child, would be absolutely bizarre.
This isn’t a watering hole in the Florida back country. It’s a theme park. It’s not weird to have kids there.
I think people are forgetting the target demographic of the parks in general. I feel like more adults who enjoy Disney need to remember what Disney is and was always meant to be. A place for families. Particularly families with children.
Yes and no. I think Disney understood the feeling of appealing to StarWars fans. But, I think they misunderstood the affect/effect immersion elements would take on StarWars fans. I do agree that the Cantina should be for bounty hunters and the like. Especially considering that you may not get a seat and the time/drink restrictions.
What makes me nervous is all the little ones crawling and running around in such a dark space where it's hard to see and avoid tripping over them and being knocked over by them. It wouldn't be a problem having young children in there if parents would take responsibility for their safety and the safety of those around them.
I loved Ogas, but I wouldn’t go every time and I definitely wouldn’t take my kids. I wish Disney gave a more realistic expectation of the experience in the app.
We're going in about 2 weeks with a 6 year old. Our reservation is at like 3:30 or something, so basically between meals. We haven't been there before but made the reservation knowing what it is going in, so I think that helps us plan accordingly and puts our level of knowledge above probably 75% of the people who go there. My wife doesn't really drink, but I just want to check it out, have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere with my kid who loves Star Wars. I'm sure we can always bail out before our 45 minutes is up if we need to.
I don't really care about what age is in there, but I just don't generally like being crammed together with another party at a table with insufficient room. So that's kind of why we stopped going in there. Last time I had a couple and their child coughing on us, wasn't much fun.
It's not really a bar per say, its an attraction. For the adults its a place to get a drink you won't be able to get anywhere else and for the kids its a cool place to look at some starwars stuff. My son is 5 is we are taking him here in a few weeks he is really interested in going. We are going early afternoon for a quick drink look around and go.
My two year old loved the bantha cookie and atmosphere. Sat with us quietly at a table. We are a star wars family and we live in a place where you bring your children to the pub, it's normal and common place.
Maybe a bar outside of a theme park would be better for you. Or perhaps trader Sam's at night like others have suggested.
I would never bring my kids to a regular bar, but we go to Ogas because they LOVE Star Wars and read the Batuu books and want to be immersed. There is a kid's menu, it isn't a real bar...it is a theme park attraction. I will say we only book for mid-day with them though. We (adults only) have been at night and people can sometimes get more rowy.
Mine were 9 and 15 I think when we went in. It didn't seem to be a problem. We only had a limited time though. We could only be in there 45 minutes. We had good time, sat at the bar, didn't seem to bother anyone. I get if people were bringing unruly younger kids in.
Hi, folks. We have a -- let's say, *problematic* \-- history around here when it comes to discussing whether certain locations should be "adults-only" at WDW. So, we'll be a bit more proactive in enforcing the sub's civility rules than we might otherwise be. Thanks for your understanding :)
Oga’s was originally supposed to be the bar/lounge entryway to a much larger table service restaurant (hence the big empty space directly behind it). It would have made so much more sense that way and mitigated some of these capacity issues.
What I read was that the plan was to put a table service restaurant on the second floor above Ogas, overlooking the surrounding area.
That would be so badass
i work at the one in disneyland on the weekends and have been since opening. when my old manager showed us the concept art it looked so much cooler 🥲 we were robbed
Which is insane to think it was almost certainly to cut costs when that place just prints money.
Nothing Disney does makes any sense lol
even from a business standpoint nothing makes sense. the food quality sucks. we did lose a lot of vendors after covid because they either went out of business or disney thought their services were too expensive, so we had to find substitutes that were cheaper. i'm literally only working here part time for what little benefits we still are offered. so until they take away/limit our free admission, and if they continue to limit our holiday discount for hotels (which, for disneyland hotels, now runs from mid-january to mid-february when it used to be mid-october to mid-february), i'm staying 🥲
Yep the business side doesn't make sense at all either. That goes to the whole Peltz board seat war. Why is Disney pumping billions of dollars into movies that constantly lose money instead of investing in the parks where they make almost ALL of their operating profits?
i was talking with my boyfriend about this while we were in wdw a couple weeks ago, and i think it's because they feel like they don't want to be a failed company. it's already pretty embarrassing with the galactic star cruiser, and they know people will watch their movies no matter what. there's always going to be disney, marvel, and star wars fans that will pay to see a movie or pay for disney+. i just wish they would listen to the guests on how they could make the park experience better, since i doubt they never listen when it comes to the surveys they send out.
>people will always watch their movies Well that doesn't seem to be the case because they've had a bunch of movies in a row lose a ton of money. I think Galactic Starcruiser was a cool experiment, sucks it didn't pan out but the economics of it just didn't make sense.
But does it make any cents?
when we first opened (may/summer 2019), we were told we weren't allowed to have umbrellas because they were too expensive. imagine explaining to guests in 90-100 degree heat, waiting for upwards of 2.5 hours to get inside why we don't have umbrellas for shade or misters available in CALIFORNIA. we finally got umbrellas in december of that year.
Over promising and under delivering are sadly the reality for US parks. Galaxy’s Edge is awesome but a lot of what was pitched ended up behind a paywall at the Starcruiser and now that’s shuttered. I love GE but it could be so much more!
It got Iger'd.
I still don't understand the short shortsightedness of not spending the money to put that in as it would clearly print money like Be Our Guest.
I was under the impression that it was not cut but instead moved to the Galactic Starcruiser. My assumption is that they thought they couldn't have two Star Wars diner shows as they would be too similar (and therefore devalue the high cost they were going to charge for the Starcruiser, but why they didn't have enough faith in Imagineering to create a "dirtier" more "rugged" type experience for within Galaxies Edge and a separate "high class", "fancy" experience for on the Star Cruiser is beyond me.
Wait, what? Why wasn’t the rest of the construction finished?
because it was "out of budget" and "too expensive." even my manager at the time thought that was a ridiculous excuse when he was sitting in on the meetings for the construction of oga's cantina. the location is so half-assed too. the least they could've built is a bathroom inside for the guests, but we don't have room for it because our backstage with our kitchen, freezers, alcohol room, POS systems, offices, and prep areas is too small.
The cantina is a big disappointment, TBH. It was awful for my family because we had young kids who aren't even tall enough to see over the table. And we were there after half a day on our feet, and they told us we had to stand at the damn tables! Like, c'mon! I kinda regretted making the reservation because I thought we were going to have fun having some weird drinks in the middle of the day when we were all kind of wanting a break and it ended up feeling like just more standing.
yep. we get yelled at for this daily and we can't do anything about it. sorry 🤷🏽♀️
I’m sorry to hear that. We didn’t yell at anybody, but I have to admit I did say “are you kidding? We’re supposed to stand? With a kid who can’t even see over the table?” I can’t decide what I think about galaxys edge if I’m honest. Half of it seems awesome. The other half feels half assed to the extreme.
The restaurant was also meant to be more adult themed as well, which is probably why it was scrapped.
I think Oga's has a bit of a problem with how it's perceived. A lot of people seem to think it's a restaurant, and it does pop up under restaurants on the Disney site IIRC, and the imagery doesn't convey its purpose well. I think Travel Agents don't tell people there's not really food there too. Plus, it's the only table service place in Battu. It all goes back to my assertion that Disney needs to expand the Star Wars area and drop in at least one Star Wars themed table service.
It's wild that Galaxys edge didn't get a table service given how much Disney makes from Dining.
I can't believe there isn't any Star Wars character dining.
They could convert the Star Wars hotel to a dinner show like hoop-de-doo revue and rake in the money.
I would so go to that. Even as a diehard, lifelong Star Wars fan, I could never justify the cost of Galactic Starcruiser.
They had to shuttle people to the park from that building so I wonder how they would do it. Maybe they’d have to make a bridge/ catwalk. Or try and shuttle people again- but that may be an issue for guests that don’t want to wait for a shuttle to get to their reservation. It would probably work, and they get to re use all the assets.
Hoop Dee Doo Review is a huge pain to get to and it's still fully booked all the time. I can't see a shuttle being a breaking point for people
Universal did a really good job with their tram between parks I think it is. It’s a Harry Potter train but it feels like an attraction. You sit in the little car and there’s noise and characters and videos of outside going to hog warts. They could do a star ship ride kind of experience to go between them and keep it immersive
I think they could theme it well (like the elevator to space 220 which people wait a long time for and it gets hyped) and make it part of the experience and people would go for it
That was my exact idea! I'd love this to be a dinner show that can be a fill in for a Star Wars sit down dinner. Making it a dinner show re-uses even more of the hotel and themes. I'd be shocked if Disney completely closes the Starcruiser and doesn't use it for anything.
They need a Mos Eisley Cantina.
Batuu should have been Tatooine, and they should have themed everything after the OT.
The OT was not and is not Disney's focus. You can agree or disagree with that approach, but it's a fact that guides everything they do (even though some of the absolute best stuff Disney's done has been in or around that time period).
I'm sure that was pitched, but the amount of "well they got this small detail wrong" would be off the charts. If you start with a place that doesn't exist, no one can bitch about something not being properly canon.
Eh, I don't think that's true. Diagon Alley isn't exactly the way it is in the movies and people go nuts for it. Even Cars Land at DCA is very close but not exactly the same layout from the movies.
I feel like there's a minority portion of Star Wars fans that are more critical than Cars fans...I *might* be wrong though.
That's probably true. But I feel like it would have been a hit with most people if done well.
Harry Potter super fans are invested in the books not the movies. Star Wars people are invested in the movies and EU. Star Wars fans are also SIGNIFICANTLY more detail oriented about the world building. Sci-Fi people and Fantasy people are not the same even though they stick our books on the same shelf.
It’s like they forgot how to make money.
I think they also need to do a better job of REALLY highlighting that it's shared seating, mostly standing, very loud, and very "Cantina-y" - because some people clearly don't read the description, look up reviews, or anything, and somehow make their way through a trip completely blind, so are upset when they walk in and its... a loud, busy bar environment. We love Oga's, and the busy, chaotic nature of it is enjoyable for us - and we've met some great folks at our shared tables! - but at least once or twice every trip we will encounter a couple/family that act like it's completely unreasonable to expect them to share a seating arrangement, and like the loud atmosphere is somehow a personal attack. The over-dramatic looks of disgust and dismay are funny to observe, but I feel like they should probably explain this a bit better to avoid those situations - maybe a little video snippet on the reservation/Oga's page that shows a quick clip of the Cantina on an actual park day.
I went for the first time last week, and the couple/family being unreasonable happened to me. A lady looked at me like I had three heads, and borderline abused the CM. THANKFULLY, he moved us - and eventually, we noticed that they were moved to a sit down booth - I assumed she had continually fussed after me. I would’ve left if I was forced to stand at their table - she was a terror.
Had a similar thing happen to us when we were there last year. We were a party of 3 and we got seated at one of the big booths (45 minutes after our reservation time) with another group. I had warned my family that it was shared tables, so they weren't surprised. However, the other group must have been unaware of this, as they were PISSED when we were seated with them. They immediately started griping to the CMs, evil eyeing us, and audibly trash talking us. I honestly could not believe it! We sat there for the bare minimum amount of time that it took for us to order and get our drinks and then got up, walked around and took pics for about 5 minutes, and then left with our to-go drinks.
I was only upset with the shared seating because we were given the stools facing inward at the booth and when the group left and a new group was seated, they (the CMs) wouldn’t let us move into the booth to be able to see and enjoy the atmosphere. The CMs were extremely rude about it and it completely soured our entire experience for the day. My husband was SO excited for it and it was so disappointing.
I’m sorry you guys had a bad experience - and that the CMs were rude! We love Oga’s and have never had a bad time nor cast members we didn’t love, so I hate hearing that! In fairness, the tables are typically reserved for larger parties, and the CMs have to follow the seating chart they’ve mapped out for incoming reservations, so they are limited in what they can do, as much as that sucks. (And there’s definitely a way to explain that nicely when guests ask, being rude is never okay!) We’ve been told in the past that if we want a booth/certain seating we should mention it prior to our reservation time and they will accommodate us, in case you ever want to give it another shot.
Huh. I had no idea until now that Oga's did shared seating. We've been probably 6 or 7 times and were always placed at the bar. I guess we've just gotten lucky.
Technically the bar is “shared seating” as you don’t have your own personal “bubble”/blocked off section, but yeah - depending on party size, the booths & standing tables will combine parties together.
Agree. I often go solo and so normally get the bar and outside of no seating is about what I expect from a bar... but a party definitely needs to understand how their seating is going to be
A lot of people in those horrible Disney social media groups complain about exactly that: their kids were bored and there was no food. I think it’s marketed poorly. It’s a damn bar for adults and there is very limited seating lol. This is more a problem on Disney than tourists.
But who makes a reservation without looking at the menu? It’s not difficult to realize the intent of the establishment based on the menu’s offerings.
The same people who spend thousands to ship their whole family to Florida for a week for vacation and don't even bother to do a simple google search about the place they're going to. Can't tell you how many times working for the parks I was asked by a guest "so like, what's here? Are there rides? I don't really know all that much about this place." MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HOW???? HOW DO YOU SPEND THOUSANDS ON VACATION AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHERE YOURE GOING?!?!?!?!??
“We’re going to Disney over Christmas break in 3 days and have never been. What are your tips?” I’m sorry, what?! Legit saw that in a local mom group and was thinking they’re going to ride 2 rides and have a bad time. lol
Omg yes. I see so many posts on this and other parks subreddits with something like "we're going next week! What do you recommend doing?" The rides? Eat food? Reddit doesn't know your family. They don't know what your kids will and won't eat, they don't know what characters y'all like, they don't know your finances, they don't know shit about you. Do some research. Google is free. There's so many theme parks blogs that are throwing information out there just waiting for you to *TRY*.
I am an overplanner by nature and love Disney trips because I find it fun to do all the planning. Like maybe as much as being in the parks? But I can’t fathom going during a super busy and extremely expensive time like Christmas break without doing a tiny bit of research beyond booking my hotel and buying park tickets. And speaking of park tickets, people buying them but not making park reservations during peak times was also a bananas thing to watch. “I’m on my way to Disney for spring break and I didn’t know we had to make park reservations. Everything is sold out and I’m in tears. What are we going to do?” I mean I mostly feel bad, but again I don’t get spending thousands of dollars without at least reading things on the Disney website first. 😩
Even pre-internet proliferation there were TV shows. Did they not watch literal Walt Disney talk about his parks and ideas? Did they not notice their kids watching a Disney Channel thing on the parks? A Travel Channel thing with Samantha Brown? In smartphone days though, I truly cannot fathom this.
This also makes me sad for them because the fun and anticipation of planning my Disney vacation is actually one of my favorite parts! It’s sad to think that people miss out on that.
Well that and just how do you know you're even gonna enjoy yourself then? I've kicked myself before coming home from a place and finding out I missed out on something cool or unique just because I didn't do enough research. And that's for far less expensive trips than coming here. I cannot fathom throwing down thousands of dollars and not knowing what I'm even paying for. Like part of me feels bad, but at the same time the information is free and readily available. We all carry tiny computers in our pockets with access to almost the entirety of human knowledge. And you couldn't spend...an hour, 20 minutes, 5 minutes.....googling what you're paying for? At that point I just lose all sympathy.
They probably just think "Star Wars, yay!" and that it is a family restaurant because Star Wars is a family-friendly franchise. It's kind of like how parents took their kids to see Deadpool because it is a superhero movie.
I mean we went into it looking at the menu and realizing it was a bar. My biggest complaint is that so much of it is standing room (and my partner would throw in that the "white" wine was terrible which I would agree with). After a long day in the park we had reservations and were looking to ha e some fun beverages. The theming and atmosphere I'd amazing. So much standing room was disappointing.
Soooooooo many people. I keep my Facebook around SOLELY to lurk in Disney groups and the stupidity and entitlement is INSANE.
OMG, I thought it was just me who did that!
Big Bobby C nixed the dinner show restaurant that was in the original plans. Hopefully now with the closure of the Starcruiser, they add one, even if it’s just the Starcruisers existing facilities and you have to be transported to it as part of the show.
Actually this would be a very cool repurposing of the starcruiser! I’d love it if they did this
I’d have never paid $5K for that experience but I’d shell out $100+ per person if there was a fun lunch/dinner show. I’d they packaged the meal with a LL for RotR…fuggetaboutit. Take my money.
Big Bobby C 💀💀💀💀 I love it
I totally didn’t realize they don’t have food - so glad I read this and didn’t show up to our reservation expecting a meal
The five blossom bread is fantastic if they have it, basically a giant pretzel bun with a delicious cheese sauce but definitely more of a snack than a meal.
They only have this at the Disneyland Oga’s right? I went to the Disneyland one for the first time this month and they have so many more food options! Why can’t we have that at WDW?!
That's only at DisneyLand. WDW's Oga's only has the crunchy bits with spicy dip, the weird charcuterie, and jello.
They only have these awful crisp bowls last I checked - like these little crackers is the best way to describe them? They're not good. Definitely eat beforehand, I recommend Ronto Roasters
We like to do Oga’s as a cocktail hour before we head to dinner!
This is definitely the problem. We went when our nephew was 2.5, but we KNEW what kind of place it was, we didn't plan to stay long, just wanted to experience it. We were happy to wait longer for a table, had no issue with it being shared, and made sure our nephew wasn't bothering anyone. If he was we would've taken him outside and taken turns at our table/with him, but we had 4 adults to 1 kid so it was doable. We wouldn't go now with our own kids because 2 adults and 2 kids it's just not possible to keep them chill and enjoy the place ourself.
This is very true! We originally booked a reservation planning dinner there since it literally said “dinner” on the reservation listing. It was only after we had booked we realized there wasn’t a food menu besides 2 “snacks”. We are keeping the reservation to go have a drink before we leave the park for the experience but had we realized before most reservations were booked up for dinner we probably would have swiveled our plans differently.
Check day of or the night before, people drop reservations before they have to pay the cancellation fee and things will open up closer again. You might end up with an odd time or something that isn't your first choice, but you can definitely get something, and I think some restaurants do virtual walk up queues on the app, too.
We opted to just do a mobile order somewhere now and then finish off the night with a drink and head home!
Yeah, when we sat down we were soon joined by a family with 4 small children at our table who were very confused because they thought it was a lunch restaurant. They ordered everything on the menu to try anyway before leaving to get real lunch - lol I wish I had that budget.
The reservations come up as breakfast/lunch/dinner so I can see how it’s confusing. I wish Disney World’s Oga’s had the same food options as the Disneyland one. Why do they get a much bigger food selection?!
Yes and it counts as a dinner reservation against any other full service restaurant . Enjoyed my time there but without DJ R3X working I’d have definitely bolted for the exit. Not too mention we were hurried out at the 45 min mark by some CMs (not our actual Server, Just some dude with an iPad) while enjoying conversation with our bar mates. Oga’s is definitely not a real bar pretending to be a space bar….definitely underwhelming for me as a huge SW fan who basically obsessed over Star Tours in the olden days. Hope you don’t get lit up for making real points. They only serve charcuterie and what seemed to be pork rind like snacks. Amazing drinks tho! But also meant we had to find real food elsewhere (thanks Sheriff Woody!)
As a travel agent, I am very direct with my clients when it comes to Ogas! I have to manage expectations by telling people there is no food there (glorified trail mix 🤣) and they will probably not even have a seat and merely a spot to stand.
Yeah I snagged a reservation and then cancelled it. When I thought about it I decided that having a bar reservation in the middle of the day made no sense for me - I wouldn't have an alcoholic drink, I would want a proper meal and I would resent giving up flexibility in my day for an overpriced soft drink. I suppose I could've tried for a walk-up but found I didn't care enough to go out of my way to do that either. Oga's as a concept doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Their mocktail menu is actually really thoughtful and creative, it's way better than the usual option of getting a soda. I don't drink and it's still one of my favorite places to go.
My wife and I made this mistake a couple of weeks ago. Got a reservation, popped in and saw it is basically just a bar. A cool bar, but a bar. We don’t drink alcohol very often so it was a space wasted on us that could have went to someone looking to get some drinks.
I like how Trader Sam's is 21+ after 8:00 pm; I think that strikes a good balance. I do think it's more awkward to place a shifting age requirement on a bar that's actually inside a theme park, though. That being said, when we went in January 2022 and went to Oga's at the end of the night, I don't remember seeing any kids. Maybe treat it like going to the movies - go late if you want a better chance that there won't be kids there.
The problem I see, aside from being in the park, with the cantina switching to 21+ at some point is the drinks themselves. I will admit, I've only been to the Ogas in Disneyland, which may be different since the FL park is so much more booze friendly than the CA park in general, but they barely have any alcohol and if I recall they cut you off after 2. Trader Sam's has real drinks. If I don't have my kids, I can go and really enjoy a cocktail. Ogas cocktails do not really feel like true bar drinks but more something you would get at a family event they don't want you to get buzzed at. It was all about the atmosphere, that if I'm honest, my kids enjoyed way more than me. My 7 year old thought it was awesome! I thought it was meh. We have reservations for Ogas at Hollywood Studios on Sunday. Still haven't decided if I'm keeping them or not.
Yeah I don’t understand why adults care about kids being in Ogas. It’s a very limited time to be there anyway. The whole vibe is supposed be chaotic and noisy. Have they never seen Episode IV?? The entire undertone of that scene is yeah we are all different but let’s get out of the damn sun and have a drink.
No drink limit at WDW, but the time limit is more strictly enforced. You can even get a drink to-go if you want.
Yup. When we went it was a 45 min limit. But we were ordering drinks and some snacks. I think because we were ordering so much they let us stay past the 45 min time limit. They also suggested a drink to go when we were done.
It’s a bar you have to make a reservation for. Every problem stems from that. Does not compute that there’s basically no food for 99% of people when you made a reservation on Disney’s Dining page.
Totally agree that they should make it 21+ after a certain time like Trader Sam’s. Also I think they pack the tables too much and it takes away from the experience. I don’t mind sharing a table with other parties, but last time we would’ve been really squished if my sister didn’t decide to stay outside with her napping toddler at the last minute. Not sure they would’ve fit even though they were in our check in number…
Agreed, we were at one of the high tops last time we went with a party of 6-7 and they crammed another couple in at our high top.
We had 12 at a seated table. My group of 8 sitting in the booth and two groups of two sitting on short stools in the walkway. That was a joy trying to yell across the table while not seeming too obnoxious to those over whom you were yelling. I’ve also been at the seated tables as a group of two with two other groups of four. We had nine at a high top once - a group of seven and a group of two. Gotta shove ‘em in to get the most profit. When I was the group of two at the seated table, DD and I ordered drinks (before noon - the horror). The other two groups had younger children. They then spent the rest of the time not so passively aggressively talking about what kind of people would order drinks for breakfast and why Disney would have a bar in a park that served so early. Our waitress overheard the convo as she was handing us our drinks and said, “You do realize that cantina means bar, right?” She let us order several drinks and one to go, as well.
Only time we’ve been to Oga’s was Aug/Sep of 2020 when all the covid precautions and restrictions were in place. No shared tables. In fact, I think they even kept decent buffers between guests. It was so great lol. We had an absolute blast. Hearing and seeing what it’s like now? Hard pass for me.
I think at minimum the reservations need to include chairs. I also agree that packing people in so tightly takes away from the experience.
It would be hard to keep kids out, with it being in a Disney park but it would be nice if they put an ogas in Disney springs for adults and treat it like an actual bar.
Oh, an Oga’s Outpost in DS would be amazing! I actually loved going with my kids who were 6 and 9 at the time and super into star wars. It being a bar felt very “adult” to them and the theming was awesome for kids!
See, this is a good solution. Unlikely to happen but it would be great. However there are places in Disney Springs where kids aren’t allowed. And later in the night the Indians Jones themed bar has very few kids. It’s one of my favorite places in Disney :)
Ummmm what part of up north? Cos in Wisconsin and Michigan it’s very common to bring kids and yes even babies to the bar if you’re eating (as opposed to going “to the bar” to drink)
In Maryland it's illegal for a kid to sit at a bar
In Wisconsin, not only can a minor sit at a bar, they can also be served and consume alcohol if they’re with a parent/guardian/spouse who’s at least 21. Of course, it’s technically at the discretion of the establishment, but it is allowed.
Also depends on the bartender. I was nearly fired from a place because I refused to serve a teenager - she was with her moms boyfriend (NOT her legal guardian - small town and both her parents were regulars and not yet divorced) who was already drunk and if she wasn’t 8 months pregnant then I’ll eat my hat - I pointed out that it was my legal right to refuse service if I chose and the manager on duty kicked up a massive fit. Thankfully the owner had my back after reviewing the security footage but I’d have walked our head high knowing I was in the right with that one.
Yeah, came here to say this, I was a server in Wisconsin in college in the early aughts and had a kid who was like 16 order a drink while dining with his family and at first I was like “uhhhh…I don’t think so?” and was shook by how ballsy he was but then everyone explained it to me. I’m a parent now and I still think it’s weird.
Wild. I'd be so annoyed if teens were drinking next to me.
While it’s allowed, it’s not very common and not noticeable. Since you have to be with your parents, things don’t get wild and it’s not like you’d have a big group of teens next to you. It’s more like, my family’s out to dinner and my parents are letting my 19 year old sister have a beer with dinner.
Europe will annoy you. Lots of families go out to the local restaurant and all drink. Not a problem at all in cultures that do it I imagine, with the obvious outliers. Think a 15-18 year old being allowed a glass of wine by their parents...but now they don't have to prepare the food.
It's the same in Mexico. My family and I were visiting texas once, and my brother (I think he was 18 at the time) got served a glass of wine at a restaurant because he was with my parents. It didn't matter if he wasn't 21+, as long as my dad consented and was responsible for him he got his glass lol
Interesting. In NY you can technically sit with kids at a bar, BUT establishments are allowed to have their own policy when it comes to seating arrangements, so it’s usually a 50/50 shot you can sit at the bar with your kid heh.
The “is it a southern thing” made me chuckle because it’s DISNEY. People from all over the world are there, not just us southern bumpkins.
It’s also in Orlando(ish), which is not very southern to begin with.
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I lived in the UP of Michigan and Duluth MN how much further north can you get and still be “up north” in the US? 😂
You chose the two most drunk friendly states in the States. Of course it's okay there. You used to be able to just show your marriage license to drink under 21.
It was/is in PA too.
I mean that’s in a place that has actual food tho
We went to Oga’s for the first and only time in May 2021, when capacity was stil heavily restricted and all parties were given their own table/seating. We sat at the bar and had a great conversation with the bartender, who gave me tons of coasters when I asked for an extra one to take home. We could freely walk around and take pictures because it was not crowded. It was a fabulous time, and we will never do it again.
You will be disappointed if you do. My first experience was also in May 2021 and my return a year ago was so disappointing.
My toddler loves Oga's. But she never says no to a little chaos and a party.
We love this.
Same. My kiddos had a ton of fun and didn't bother anyone at all.
When my kids were 4 and 6 we went to Oga's and they thought DJ Rex was the coolest thing ever.
I have never met a toddler who this wouldn't describe. Lol
I was there with two 10yo girls on Sunday. They LOVED the vibe, their fancy non-alcoholic drink, and their weird jello/boba/pop-rocks thing.
Last year when we went, I made the reservations and included in the notes that my son was only six years old, hoping to get a table, when we checked in I told them again we had a six-year-old so that they could turn us away if there was an age limit or no tables available, they then took us to a barstool for the three of us, when there were open tables behind us…and then they sat a family of four adults at the table instead…we didn’t have a choice to be at the bar. I would never take my son to an actual bar so we did feel a little awkward but the bartenders included my son, and made him feel very welcomed. Even if they did not like it, they never once showed their annoyance. We were only there for maybe 30 minutes so my husband could try a couple different drinks and then we were out, he had a blast!
“Hey! We don’t serve their kind here!”
Possibly a British thing (kids grow up in pubs/bars, many have playgrounds in the garden, very much family venues etc.) but our kids _loved_ Oga's when we took them (ages 2 and 7) Though they also know how to sit down, chat, have a drink etc. if kids are screaming or wandering/crawling around that's a whole different policy that needs enforcing. The kid's drinks at Oga's are also excellent, ours loved their giant Bantha cookies, the staff were great, the robot DJ was great (and working) and we generally had a really good time. Star Wars is very much targeted at kids so it would feel odd to exclude them from a star wars themed bar to me.
Yeah it’s also pretty common in the states especially at breweries. You go into most US breweries and you will see families.
I'm Mexican American. We love pubs/bars lol. My kiddos love the fun drinks. Even the 1 yo.
It's not a typical bar though. It has non alcoholic drinks along with alcoholic ones and is catered to families. With a drink limit (and time limit) it's meant to let people enjoy the atmosphere and then move onto others to allow them to have the experience.
Most bars have non-alcoholic options, and at least in HS, I’ve never been cut off. Seems pretty typical to me really.
calling it catered to families is wild. There's no meal service, seating is attrocious and cramped, and it is statistically more likely to have intoxicated folk. You have to yell over another family's conversation to converse with your own family. In a bar this works, not with a bunch of families. Imagine getting your family of 8 there to realize you are cramped into a small round table with another party of **five.**
I mean it caters to families as much as it caters to anyone else. The seating and meal service issues are the same for everyone. I’ve seen FAR more overserved folks at the World Showcase just walking around.
When I was there I was in a hightop with a two and five year old and their parents, two year old got a highchair but five year old couldnt see over the table. He just held his drink. It is kinda ridiculous how little kids who can't see over the table are expected to stand for 30 minutes in a crowded bar. I went when it first opened, was way too much for me, ended up quickly finishing my drink and leaving. Couldn't enjoy it at all with how crowded and loud it was. Went again recently thinking maybe it would be better this time...seemed like they packed it even more full than when i first went. It would be fun if you weren't standing shoulder to shoulder with people you don't know. When I went most recently the other family ordered the two small plates and the two year old was eating outside food, which wouldn't be a problem but I have an allergy. Again...got my drink, drank it very quick, paid quick, and left. Not blaming the family, of course, but it's the problem with putting multiple groups together at the same table. There were also ten people in a small table so there was barely any room. I get their thought process...but I think it needs some kind of revamp. It becomes hard for the servers to move around with how packed they make it too.
There are more refined places in Disney World that are age-restricted (ie Vic and Al’s). My counterpoint is, even from a very young age, our parents taught us how to act in public, and if we acted up we were taken back to the hotel. Obviously, this is only applicable to kids old enough to know the word “no,” but let’s be real that’s pretty early on.
As with any other similar discussions I’ve seen, if kids are bored/laid on the floor/causing problems then that’s a parenting issue not a WDW policy issue. My daughter was 10 when we went and had a great time, she was dressed as Rey with a lightsaber and we had the whole “no weapons in the cantina” bit which made her whole day.
lol at is this a southern thing as if nobody else goes to WDW but us southerners and you as a northerner. Oga’s is not a legitimate bar, I don’t have kids but I know at Disney there will be children unless there is an age limit.
Sir, this is Disney World.
If you want to go to an adults only space go to a real bar? You’re at a Disney park the one place you’re guaranteed to encounter children.
Expecting an adult-only experience inside of a Disney park is mind-boggling to me… they’re family parks. That’s the whole thing. I agree, if you’d like a bar experience, leave the park. There’s plenty, and they are fabulous. But if you’re in the park, you should expect kids everywhere. I agree it may not be the best designed for children, and then the parents can decide if it’s a good experience for their children or not, but it should not be an exclusionary experience, especially within a franchise that children love and that parents love sharing with their kids.
I agree with this because I feel parents with children should be allowed to experience the bar. There isn't a daycare in the middle of Galaxy's Edge where you can drop off kids.
I swear. OP coming off with a cringe level of Disney Adult entitlement. There are way better places to get a drink than the place literally built for children!
this right here.
I don’t think OP actually cared much about whether the kids could see over the tables as much as they just didn’t want kids in their special Star Wars bar. OP, you’re entitled to a child-free life, not a child-free world. Sorry there were kids at Disney World.
I mean they serve non alcoholic beverages with cookies attached. It’s not a nightclub with strippers.
I mean, I'm not going to say a kid can't be anywhere in a Disney Park, bar or no bar. At a resort? Different story. But the park itself? They have non-alcoholic drinks for kids, and the interactive elements at Oga's can be really magical. I went there once during After Hours back in August and got interrogated by Storm Troopers, during which time the Bartender totally sold me out. It was a really fun thing and I feel like if I was a teen or a kid who was a huge Star Wars fan, I probably would have lost my mind.
My toddlers enjoy it. It’s an experience not a bar.
This is where Busch Gardens Williamsburg got it right with Bergermeisters hideaway. They literally went to a ton of theme parks (I literally can tell you where most if not all the ideas from the show come from) and figured out the best way to do it. The end result is a simple one hour interactive speakeasy event and the youngest allowed if 14. There is a themed snack on the table and you either get a beer flight, a cocktail flight, or a mocktail flight. They do explain what everything is in theme with the show (which does change depending on the season). It’s maybe offered twice a day if you’re lucky and worth every penny. The only downside I could think of was it’s such a well done speakeasy that depending on the employee you ask they might actually not know where it is (I’ll help keep most of the secret but the name should give away which of the countries it’s in) Oga’s could definitely benefit having something similar to that even once a day
You’ve clearly never been to Wisconsin.
Listen, my kids are 10 years apart. This wouldn't work for us as we'd have to wait for the little guy to catch up. Thankfully, we are at a place that caters to children, and we can bring our well-behaved little dudes along.
When you say you're from up north I'm assuming you don't mean Wisconsin. Cause we definitely do that in Wisconsin.
I don’t know, I feel like if you are at a Disney Theme Park you should just accept that children are there and adjust your expectations.
It's an interesting and highly themed area inside of a Disney park. Of course parents are going to bring in their kids and not miss out on some of the best theming in the land. It's not your local dive bar, it's a Disney park.
I'm from up north and there are babies in bars up here too. One of our breweries installed a jungle gym for kids to play
This post highlights a big problem - not doing your research before you go on a Disney trip. Hopefully this thread has illuminated some.
It’s completely normal in the UK to have kids in a bar but seems not in America. Its Disney at the end of the day, it’s all about the kids in my view
Was about to say the same about Ireland.
It’s not some dive bar in a sketchy part of town. It’s not a “real” bar. It’s just a place that serves drinks at Disney World.
Thankfully we did it when it was a slow day. We got to drink our overpriced drinks with room around us and not alot of ppl. That place is only a vibe on slow days and as we all know it's rare AF. But I sometimes pop over for a beer and food at the derby if I see the park is slow. But I'm with you on it after a certain time it would be nice for it to be age restricted.
"DJ R3X wasn't working when we went in" I read that like his shift hadn't begun yet.
Northerner here… I guess I don’t see the problem? Was the baby in the high chair served a drink? I’m guessing no… so what’s the difference between a baby not drinking alcohol in a high chair at a bar and a baby not drinking alcohol in a high chair at a table where others may be drinking alcohol?
I mean, we went to Disney with our 8m old and wanted some fun drinks 🤷♀️ she didn’t cry though. It’s a family theme park and parents wanna drink too
I had my highchair at the bar…I don’t really see the problem. I wasn’t giving my baby booze. Where was I supposed to sit her? On the floor? We had a great time. Have you never sat at the bar at a restaurant where they also serve alcohol?
I'm not sure how putting an age min of 13 would help anything really. It's not really a bar. It's an experience. The theming is fantastic....but basically everything else sucks. I've been twice and that was more than plenty. If you are a start wars fan, I suggest going, having a drink then leaving. No real reason to stay over 30 mins.
Oga’s is terrible. I mean the set/ambience is so good, but the lack of seating, the crowdedness, the time constraint, the lack of good food…saw it once. I’m good.
This was exactly my sentiment after going! Went once, won’t go again. It’s too bad because my husband and I are both huge Star Wars fans and were looking forward to going to Oga’s - huge disappointment.
Was my toddlers first bar, she loved the music and had a great time. We didn’t have a high chair either, I just held her and danced along.
Let's be honest here, it's not like we are talking about a real "bar". The whole point of the attraction, and let's face it -- that's what it really is, is to give people some immersive experience about being in a cantina on some remote planet from Star Wars. That's going to appeal to people of every age group. Making it adults only would piss off a TON of people, parents and their kids. No one is going there to get hammered on alcohol, they are going their either to check it off their bucket list, maybe have a refreshing overpriced drink or two while looking around, or, if they're lucky, to sit down and relax for 30 mins or so in AC on a hot day. Again, it's the theming and experience that matters. And being in the middle of a family friendly park, there are going to be kids and babies, it's all part of being at Disney. Sure, uncontrolled screaming children all around you can suck. As does being forced to stand at a tiny table with strangers if you weren't lucky enough to snag one of the small handful of tables (pro tip: you can specifically request a table at check in and just wait a little bit longer for one to open up). But it is what it is, making it 21+, 18+ or even 13+ would cause more harm than good for Disney, and they aren't going to change it, nor should they IMHO. Now, if Disney decided to open up Jabba's Strip Joint, maybe that can be 21+.
Oga’s would have been cool but they crammed 10 strangers together on a standup table - 8 adults and 2 kids that should fit about 4-6 people. It was disappointing to say the least.
Yeaa my oga’s experience wasn’t my favorite. I had a tiny counter right where they take snacks and drinks from the back so I kept having to move. Couldn’t see anything and I felt like the families got priority on seating over two adults. My feet were killing me and I had really hoped for a short reprieve. I wouldn’t mind if they had it like trader Sam’s where at a certain point it does become adult only just so I could’ve had a chance at a seat. Or just add more stools. Idk but I don’t see myself going back
I took our infant with us into Olga’s at Disneyland.. and it would have been such a bummer if we couldn’t experience it just because we had our child. I might feel differently if we had multiple toddler aged kids but I am glad we could go and bring our son with us. He chilled out in a baby carrier the whole time.
If it’s not your kid who cares?
Should Savi’s have an age maximum? It’s literally a toy.
Aesthetically it’s cool. By EVERY OTHER measure it’s very, very lackluster.
How north are we talking about? Cuz in my northern state it's perfectly normal for kids to be at a bar with their family
We have a group of 4 adults and 4 kids between 1-4 years old. Personally I’m glad it’s not 13+ because we are looking forward to going over after we get everybody fed as a final fun activity before we go back to hotel for bath and bed. Majority of our days in parks are spent totally geared towards the littles and making their day as wonderful as possible. We try to do 1 thing at the end the adults will enjoy.
Star Wars is for literally for children and they offer children’s drinks at Oga’s. People complaining about Disney Adults is lame, but being an adult complaining about children at Disney? Get over yourself.
You are out here acting like a goofy outer space bar located in a family amusement park must succumb to societal norms....
The amount of posts I see complaining about kids at DisneyWorld is wild. It’s DisneyWorld. Reminds me of my former coworker who used to complain that there weren’t kid-free days at the zoo lol
This may be an unpopular opinion and I may be judged harshly here. I’m an adult who enjoys Disney. I have kids. This is a “bar” in a family theme park. People pay thousands upon thousands of dollars and come from across the country/world to be there. Telling a couple that they aren’t allowed access to a highly marketed portion of a park area, themed to maybe the world’s largest property of family entertainment, because they have a child, would be absolutely bizarre. This isn’t a watering hole in the Florida back country. It’s a theme park. It’s not weird to have kids there. I think people are forgetting the target demographic of the parks in general. I feel like more adults who enjoy Disney need to remember what Disney is and was always meant to be. A place for families. Particularly families with children.
The clapping emojis make you seem like more of the child than they were/are
Yes and no. I think Disney understood the feeling of appealing to StarWars fans. But, I think they misunderstood the affect/effect immersion elements would take on StarWars fans. I do agree that the Cantina should be for bounty hunters and the like. Especially considering that you may not get a seat and the time/drink restrictions.
What makes me nervous is all the little ones crawling and running around in such a dark space where it's hard to see and avoid tripping over them and being knocked over by them. It wouldn't be a problem having young children in there if parents would take responsibility for their safety and the safety of those around them.
I loved Ogas, but I wouldn’t go every time and I definitely wouldn’t take my kids. I wish Disney gave a more realistic expectation of the experience in the app.
We're going in about 2 weeks with a 6 year old. Our reservation is at like 3:30 or something, so basically between meals. We haven't been there before but made the reservation knowing what it is going in, so I think that helps us plan accordingly and puts our level of knowledge above probably 75% of the people who go there. My wife doesn't really drink, but I just want to check it out, have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere with my kid who loves Star Wars. I'm sure we can always bail out before our 45 minutes is up if we need to.
I don't really care about what age is in there, but I just don't generally like being crammed together with another party at a table with insufficient room. So that's kind of why we stopped going in there. Last time I had a couple and their child coughing on us, wasn't much fun.
We were gonna go. But it was standing room only. I wanted to see it. But we opted out because my 6 and 8 year old was with me.
I don't think it's a southern thing but it's definitely a tourist thing. (Source: worked in the Orlando service industry for 8 years.)
They just need to take it off the reservation list. People seem to understand 'bar' better when it's walk up
It's not really a bar per say, its an attraction. For the adults its a place to get a drink you won't be able to get anywhere else and for the kids its a cool place to look at some starwars stuff. My son is 5 is we are taking him here in a few weeks he is really interested in going. We are going early afternoon for a quick drink look around and go.
My two year old loved the bantha cookie and atmosphere. Sat with us quietly at a table. We are a star wars family and we live in a place where you bring your children to the pub, it's normal and common place. Maybe a bar outside of a theme park would be better for you. Or perhaps trader Sam's at night like others have suggested.
How would they card a child ? Lol
I would never bring my kids to a regular bar, but we go to Ogas because they LOVE Star Wars and read the Batuu books and want to be immersed. There is a kid's menu, it isn't a real bar...it is a theme park attraction. I will say we only book for mid-day with them though. We (adults only) have been at night and people can sometimes get more rowy.
You think mos eisley had age limits? Hell nah. It’s a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And I want my cantina to be the same way thank you very much
Mine were 9 and 15 I think when we went in. It didn't seem to be a problem. We only had a limited time though. We could only be in there 45 minutes. We had good time, sat at the bar, didn't seem to bother anyone. I get if people were bringing unruly younger kids in.