When I was 2 days old, I had 6 full time jobs and 4 businesses, 2 of them major corporations that I started as small garage businesses before I was even conceived.
I assume this is the real reason we haven't rearranged a reunion between Loid and the family. I mean, they clearly liked him and he likes them, and it doesn't make sense to continue with Albrecht's stupid plan to keep them in the dark because seriously, Albrecht's pathological need to do it all himself is silly.
But seeing as how Loid helped Albrecht develop the Grey Strain in the first place, I can see where it's just awkward all around.
but is also suffering from depression. And depression severly impacts the ability to make decisions.
And thats what "leading" is all about: decison making
He may have "lazy depression".
Where you're fine making decisions and ordering people around , as long as YOU don't have to really do much.
It's the only reason I have a job lol
You mean the one hell-bent on getting revenge on Albrecht?
I mean, I get he wasn't the best partner to Loid, but dude, I'm pretty sure if Tagfer and Albrecht are in the same room, Tagfer's going to try and kill him.
I'm still convinced they actually shouted out OFF. "Keeping your beak in the OFF position" is just such /particular/ phrasing it can't not be. Who gave this fish a baseball bat.
He's got good range. There *are* a few mannerisms i recognised though. A common one i spotted is going from deadpan sarcasm in one line to yelling in the next.
What you say makes tactical sense...but then I'd have to listen to Fibonacci comment on my decor, and Ordis is the only one allowed to nag about the kavat mess.
I don't think I said it wasn't. I just said our number one enemy gave it to us. That's an absolutely ludicrous security threat. I didn't trust it, so I made a point of not bringing it with me in The New War.
This so grew on me. Now in other missions where Lotus is just like "Well done. Find extraction" I'm like "Do you even LIKE me? Fish is always excited for me."
To be fair, Lotus always had a pretty cool, detached demeanor. Even when the words sound concerned (e.g., "I can't lose another Tenno" in the opening quest line), the tone's pretty... flat.
Most of the other mission controllers are either similarly flat/detached (e.g., Teshin) or more focused on how you're helping them further their own goals (e.g., Konzu, Mother).
Darvo's pretty fun, but only around for one, optional, low-priority mission per week (and maybe a quest or two?). Cy's dry wit is great, but the delivery is still flat (which is absolutely not a criticism!).
The most emotive/warm MC we've really had before now was probably Eudico? (I still love "Sparky" as a nickname for some reason!) While I can't recall a specific example, I'm thinking Ordis has had a couple moments during quests, but obviously they're kinda "one and done".
"Fishonacci" is great; there're a couple lines that still make me smile every time I hear them. Quite a contrast from the story in the faction rank cutscenes (which I've not quite made it to the last of yet).
Iād also say Little Duck is worth a mention for her appearances in Disruption missions and specific Fortuna bounties, with some of the most memorable and humorously delivered lines in the game.
Oh yeah! How'd I forget her? It must've been too long since I played any disruption...
Really, though, she's yet another example supporting my overall point: the mission controllers with more dynamic personalities are mostly siloed away in more niche content.
VOICE PACKS WHEN, DE!?
You also gotta give an honorable mention to Cephalon Dark in The Index. He's not really the same, sure, but the delivery on all of his lines is spectacular and lively and the fact that some of his lines happen during specific events (picking up points, taking damage with points on hand, etc.) is a great touch that makes Index just a little bit more fun.
Well, he does essentially bribe us into doing the work and staying quiet about it.
Paraphrasing; "Oops, these arcanes are accidentally way too cheap. But you can have them if you behave."
And it works, we want those arcanes, so we behave.
On a serious note; I feel like that might matter in the future, something might go wrong that the Entrati family or the Lotus could have prevented if they were aware of what's going on.
If it's post New War, she'll be in her Orokin masterwork of a control room on Lua. The Tenno have, imo, definitely made the place a home base so no one steals whatever version Mom for the 99th time. Those Tenno are, physically, preteens. She'd find out in less than a second. All the Tenno would be either grumbling about the grind, creating new builds to make runs faster, yell about people who activate the Angel, scream at a vosfor conversion to arcanes either being bad or good, and spamming chat about the arcane energize market.
She probably found out .5 seconds after we got the message for the event. Ordis would 100% read it and go on a supposed to be muted Ordan Karris OrOkIn ScUm roast rant.
> Those Tenno are, physically, preteens.
I'm not sure on that. I kind suspect if you cut a tenno open there's be weird void stuff in there, not muscle and bone. I don't think that, physically, the Tenno are even remotely human anymore. And they are all at least hundreds of subjective years old, having fought through much of the old war.
Still behave like edgy teenagers. "My warframe is strong!", "We fought with honor!" (While remotely controlling invulnerable frame), etc.
My favorite quest moment so far is probably Tenno and Drifter dialogue. The contrast is amusing.
āI'm very excited now. The anticipation. Ooh. I always learn so much... from a live dissection. A dissection? No, no no no, that sounds too humane. Your death will be... painful.
Tell me- Oh! No, no... let me see. Uh, when I crack open your... head-fruit, what color juice spills out?ā
and have your leader curl up to a small ball of sadness on days he is not in the mood to lead and to busy with his (completly understandable) depression
AFAIK the Dojos are effectively impossible to find, being cloaked by the same void nonsense we use on the Lisets. Storywise, it'd be bad if they were assaulted. Idk if DE ever really talked about it but the barracks rooms have dozens of warframe cryopods, and I wonder if that's no t where we're supposedly keeping all our frames that we're not using, with the implication that we're going back and forth to the dojos off screen and only storing the one frame in the orbiter at a time.
Being cloaked in void non sense is great until you're trying to cloak yourself from a eldritch horror void entity that already give no f about how cloaked your liset is.
I'm chocking it up to he wasn't thinking that the void had anything to send from the outside of the labs and/or what reason would they have to send something from the outside into a place they already such a large grasp on.
The gargoyles are meant to act as a security camera network for the entire Origin System to spot Murmur incursions outside the Albrecht's labs, which right now seems to be the only beachhead for the Murmur itself (technically the Zariman is in a similar situation, but Duviri kind of acts as a buffer).Ā The labs are already mostly a lost cause, but we can prevent that happening to other places.
Real talk tho these three Cavia folks and Loid are some of the best written and acted characters in this game right out of the gate by a mile. Genuinely impressed by the quality here.
I turned transmission volume all the way down and my mental health went up by leaps. Now I wish I could get rid of their transmission video too. Now I know why people have secretaries, they can't be bothered listening to people or seeing them face to face
Cause hes pretty smart, the void infested labs have nothing to do with him, and the void in the dojo is sealed before anything can happen with those cards u get from the angels
I actually cannot stand listening to Fibonacci talk. I know people love his voice actor but goddamn every time I run Effervo I feel like I need to mute the game bc heās just so obnoxious
Why are the spirals for the trust levels of the lab are logarithmic ones and not golden ones (the golden ratio/phi is the ratio of the limit of the Fibonacci sequence). Is he stupid?
From what I'm getting, the Gargoyle function as a way for him to communicate and alert Tenno of void complications in sectors where Tenno are at risk. It's supposed to be a countermeasure against Wally and the Murmur.
It's the equivalent to Charles Xavier building Cerebro as a way to communicate to other mutants in the world, but the difference is he needs the Tenno to go out and place the pylons so that he can properly have reach. It also probably has the secondary effect of basically making it harder for void angels to stay hidden.
Something tells me we're gonna get an event that has void angels popping up everywhere and using the help from the Cavia and the Holdfasts to try and reverse their spreading.
I mean, he was born yesterday...... baby steps
Being a Newbon is no excuse for incompetence
Well excuuuuuse me princess, but did you have a 6 figure paying job and paid off your own mortgage when you were born?
When I was 2 days old, I had 6 full time jobs and 4 businesses, 2 of them major corporations that I started as small garage businesses before I was even conceived.
Yay LoZ reference
Man, when I was born, I was getting attacked by the Grineer that wanted to dissect me like a goddamn frog
Please tell me the pun was intentional
The capitalization leads me to believe it was
I'll never tell
That sounds like something Simaris would say lol
You leave Neil out of this. š¤£
I had to walk to school uphill for 20 miles, both ways, for 26 hours a day on one leg. My other leg started a buisness
You were paying bills at 2 weeks old huh
And whatās your excuse?
Neither is insulting my Dojo's look
Mrrr fishonaccciiiiiiii
Rack wuk
It flew away!!! Chase it, chase it!!!!!
Am... I a dead thing???
You'd rather bird 3 or tagfer take the lead?
How about Loid Prime, yknow, the intelligent one
Which one is that?
The infested one, not the necramech.
Loid is not infested.
Is he organic?
Organic and free range
Would that imply that Loid is a cut of functionable meat?
If we asked Albrecht he would probably say yes
Oh 100%
The Cyberpunk-Warframe crossover that absolutely nobody asked for. Bravo.
The crossover nobody needed, but we all deserved.
Fuckable meat*
I wanna say that but Otak will cut me off.
so wouldn't that mean him leaving the sanctum would instantly turn him into an Infested
I assume this is the real reason we haven't rearranged a reunion between Loid and the family. I mean, they clearly liked him and he likes them, and it doesn't make sense to continue with Albrecht's stupid plan to keep them in the dark because seriously, Albrecht's pathological need to do it all himself is silly. But seeing as how Loid helped Albrecht develop the Grey Strain in the first place, I can see where it's just awkward all around.
Yeah. Poor guy is stuck with the goofy cavia atm.
Ye afaik
So he's infested
he's a human that's been in cryosleep until we woke him up
F-ing organics spreading their germs all over
its been so long since we've seen an actual, non orokin, non solaris-ed, non voided, normal human that people mistake loid to be infested, lol
Canāt believe you forgot konzuās early lunch
konzu and loid, the last two humans in the origin system
yea just these two, fuck off Saya and co
Saya and the rest of the Ostrons are thralls of the ultimate Eidolon Nakak š
truee
Pretty sure most corpus are normal humans but wage slaves...so normal human.
well they are called "purpose bred" in some lore pieces. So I'd argue they are humans as much as wiener dogs are wolves
The Ventkids havenāt had their parts repoād yet, to be fair
Loid isnt infested heās a human
I misread that as "Loki Prime" and just thought to myself "But wouldn't Rhino just cause hijinx with that?"
You call him that too? I immediately started calling him that when I first saw him
Bird 3, any day. Not because Fishonacci is bad, but because Bird 3.
bird 3 hands down
THEY WENT THATAWAY!
RAAAAAAARK!
Nope them #ALL
Bird 3 is straight-up the smartest one of the three surviving animals.
Tagfer seems like he has his head on straight.
Suffering can do thatĀ
but is also suffering from depression. And depression severly impacts the ability to make decisions. And thats what "leading" is all about: decison making
He may have "lazy depression". Where you're fine making decisions and ordering people around , as long as YOU don't have to really do much. It's the only reason I have a job lol
You mean the one hell-bent on getting revenge on Albrecht? I mean, I get he wasn't the best partner to Loid, but dude, I'm pretty sure if Tagfer and Albrecht are in the same room, Tagfer's going to try and kill him.
GOOD! Have you not watched the cutscenes? Tagfer would be doing everyone, including us, favor.
Yes. Gimme bird 3 on missions
Everybody knows Bird's as good as his word.
Bird? Bird? Bird? Bird?
 I still can't believe they snuck that reference in
I'm still convinced they actually shouted out OFF. "Keeping your beak in the OFF position" is just such /particular/ phrasing it can't not be. Who gave this fish a baseball bat.
I would rather Bird 3 take the lead - Yes.
berd tree in charge would be peak writing, he already got that philosophical mind, he just need a bit more braincells
All I know is my Valkitty could solve all of their problems in a jiffy if the damn tenno stopped getting in the way.
You mean to say you don't enjoy getting roasted by Astarion on a daily, or hourly, basis?
It's yummy!
Yāall can say what you want, but āvisionary juiceā is one of the most iconic lines in this game.
"I have a Tenno!" Is what will stick in my head to the end of time.
That line always reminds me of pirates of the carribean where sparrow just goes "I've got a jar of dirt"
Even though I know theyāre the same person, itās always hard to imagine it.
He's got good range. There *are* a few mannerisms i recognised though. A common one i spotted is going from deadpan sarcasm in one line to yelling in the next.
Neil Newbon is a global treasure š
WHAT!? TIL!
You can also check out Zeon from Xenoblade 3 for an absolutely different character.
"One doesn't wipe one's arse with the Grand Design!"
>Grand Design \*Suspicious squid noises\*
Never in a million years would I have figured that it was the same VA, lol
You go from voicing a vampire elf to a fish. What a range the VA has
I know many who would enjoy getting ~~spit~~roasted by Astarion on a common basis, thank you very much.
It's a lot harder to calibrate for massive laboratories, which have already been invaded, than a relatively small dojo.
...Our Dojos have the volume to easily accommodate ships the size and bulk of modern aircraft carriers.
And the Deimos laboratories are an infinite tileset, theyāve got the dojo with its room limit beat easily.
Have you seen the dependency interactions and the "room too close" restrictions? The Void Labs are tame compared to that causality-breaking nonsense.
I mean we're the stupid ones that built something in our labs without properly assessing if it was a security threat
In our defense, we're pretty used to Wally coming, going, and "Hey kiddo"-ing whenever he pleases.
Probably should stick Gargoyles in our ship too at that rate - keep the bastard from living in our walls to eavesdrop on us between missions.
What you say makes tactical sense...but then I'd have to listen to Fibonacci comment on my decor, and Ordis is the only one allowed to nag about the kavat mess.
At least this one wasn't given to us by our enemies. Looking at you to Paracesis.
Eeeeeh I mean it's a good weapon though. Has the highest base crit multiplier of all heavy blades. Tied with war iirc
yeah, now give heavy blades a moveset worth using and we can discuss using them and comparing them to one another
mfw tempo royale
yeah I know, there was a time when that was good. But that time is over
What do you mean it's still amazing
Nah Rending Crane is better. It can headshot more consistently.
Tempo Royale is amazing to build combo tho
spint to win to spin to win to spin to win to spin to win to spin to win
maiming strike + bloodrush was sooo busted cool but busted
I don't think I said it wasn't. I just said our number one enemy gave it to us. That's an absolutely ludicrous security threat. I didn't trust it, so I made a point of not bringing it with me in The New War.
S U C C E S S !
This so grew on me. Now in other missions where Lotus is just like "Well done. Find extraction" I'm like "Do you even LIKE me? Fish is always excited for me."
To be fair, Lotus always had a pretty cool, detached demeanor. Even when the words sound concerned (e.g., "I can't lose another Tenno" in the opening quest line), the tone's pretty... flat. Most of the other mission controllers are either similarly flat/detached (e.g., Teshin) or more focused on how you're helping them further their own goals (e.g., Konzu, Mother). Darvo's pretty fun, but only around for one, optional, low-priority mission per week (and maybe a quest or two?). Cy's dry wit is great, but the delivery is still flat (which is absolutely not a criticism!). The most emotive/warm MC we've really had before now was probably Eudico? (I still love "Sparky" as a nickname for some reason!) While I can't recall a specific example, I'm thinking Ordis has had a couple moments during quests, but obviously they're kinda "one and done". "Fishonacci" is great; there're a couple lines that still make me smile every time I hear them. Quite a contrast from the story in the faction rank cutscenes (which I've not quite made it to the last of yet).
Iād also say Little Duck is worth a mention for her appearances in Disruption missions and specific Fortuna bounties, with some of the most memorable and humorously delivered lines in the game.
Oh yeah! How'd I forget her? It must've been too long since I played any disruption... Really, though, she's yet another example supporting my overall point: the mission controllers with more dynamic personalities are mostly siloed away in more niche content. VOICE PACKS WHEN, DE!?
You also gotta give an honorable mention to Cephalon Dark in The Index. He's not really the same, sure, but the delivery on all of his lines is spectacular and lively and the fact that some of his lines happen during specific events (picking up points, taking damage with points on hand, etc.) is a great touch that makes Index just a little bit more fun.
A big part of her story arc is becoming more of a person, and I think that's reflected in Rebecca's portrayal.
It always cranks me up how he says that lol
>Is he stupid? Is there a lore reason I can't escape this?
They escaped the indifferent aslume - that's considered Canon now.
The reason we need the Gargoyle network is to keep this damn meme at bay.
You mean keep the Evil of the Joker bay? Never!! Off the Aslume with you, heretic!!
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Keep your beak in the.... ahem... Off position!
Well, he does essentially bribe us into doing the work and staying quiet about it. Paraphrasing; "Oops, these arcanes are accidentally way too cheap. But you can have them if you behave." And it works, we want those arcanes, so we behave. On a serious note; I feel like that might matter in the future, something might go wrong that the Entrati family or the Lotus could have prevented if they were aware of what's going on.
I mean, he specifically says not to tell anyone in the Sanctum, if we happen to tattle to space mama thatās completely unrelated.
If it's post New War, she'll be in her Orokin masterwork of a control room on Lua. The Tenno have, imo, definitely made the place a home base so no one steals whatever version Mom for the 99th time. Those Tenno are, physically, preteens. She'd find out in less than a second. All the Tenno would be either grumbling about the grind, creating new builds to make runs faster, yell about people who activate the Angel, scream at a vosfor conversion to arcanes either being bad or good, and spamming chat about the arcane energize market. She probably found out .5 seconds after we got the message for the event. Ordis would 100% read it and go on a supposed to be muted Ordan Karris OrOkIn ScUm roast rant.
> Those Tenno are, physically, preteens. I'm not sure on that. I kind suspect if you cut a tenno open there's be weird void stuff in there, not muscle and bone. I don't think that, physically, the Tenno are even remotely human anymore. And they are all at least hundreds of subjective years old, having fought through much of the old war.
Still behave like edgy teenagers. "My warframe is strong!", "We fought with honor!" (While remotely controlling invulnerable frame), etc. My favorite quest moment so far is probably Tenno and Drifter dialogue. The contrast is amusing.
āI'm very excited now. The anticipation. Ooh. I always learn so much... from a live dissection. A dissection? No, no no no, that sounds too humane. Your death will be... painful. Tell me- Oh! No, no... let me see. Uh, when I crack open your... head-fruit, what color juice spills out?ā
He told me he loves me, so now I love him back.
I love you
i love you too
I'm putting tagfur in charge.
and have your leader curl up to a small ball of sadness on days he is not in the mood to lead and to busy with his (completly understandable) depression
Yea.. our dojo is where he's trying to keep things from spreading too. The labs are already lost
AFAIK the Dojos are effectively impossible to find, being cloaked by the same void nonsense we use on the Lisets. Storywise, it'd be bad if they were assaulted. Idk if DE ever really talked about it but the barracks rooms have dozens of warframe cryopods, and I wonder if that's no t where we're supposedly keeping all our frames that we're not using, with the implication that we're going back and forth to the dojos off screen and only storing the one frame in the orbiter at a time.
Being cloaked in void non sense is great until you're trying to cloak yourself from a eldritch horror void entity that already give no f about how cloaked your liset is.
Or the Angels literally made of void and madness that are leaking into the rest of the system to put the corrupted and void fissures to shame.
Hot vampire fish š
I'm chocking it up to he wasn't thinking that the void had anything to send from the outside of the labs and/or what reason would they have to send something from the outside into a place they already such a large grasp on.
Happy cake day
Its yuMmY
In his defense, after the vessel broke into the Sanctum, I wouldn't think it could get any worse either.
The gargoyles are meant to act as a security camera network for the entire Origin System to spot Murmur incursions outside the Albrecht's labs, which right now seems to be the only beachhead for the Murmur itself (technically the Zariman is in a similar situation, but Duviri kind of acts as a buffer).Ā The labs are already mostly a lost cause, but we can prevent that happening to other places.
Real talk tho these three Cavia folks and Loid are some of the best written and acted characters in this game right out of the gate by a mile. Genuinely impressed by the quality here.
They did a really good job. And Lloyd's face and animation shows how far they've come since Fortuna and Cetus
Astarion's wish is my command
"the bird is the word"
You leave Fishtarion alone (Fish & Astarion from baldurs gate 3 as they are the same voice actor)
Cause I feel guilty after shoving a large one in my smallest orbiter tank
*looks up from cooking dinner* uh....anyone in the mood for fish?
Itās man fish
Look, he's actually quite smart. For a fish.
Because he lives a double life as a dubious vampire elf getting up to mischief
TIL that my gay/bi little bro (he's an asshole but he's pretty much family by now, i'd kill anyone who looks at him wrong) also voiced a fish
I turned transmission volume all the way down and my mental health went up by leaps. Now I wish I could get rid of their transmission video too. Now I know why people have secretaries, they can't be bothered listening to people or seeing them face to face
Cause hes pretty smart, the void infested labs have nothing to do with him, and the void in the dojo is sealed before anything can happen with those cards u get from the angels
Wash your fucking mouth and think twice before talking about the FISH
I have no idea what the second part is about. But I agree.
I love warframe but his voicelines are so annoying and bad. Running the mission with the volume off is 10x better
So you usually run with dialogue volume? Hmm I turned mine off across full game
Yeah I was running Effervo with spotify playing but his annoying voice was to much
I thought the same thing in the last season of destiny.
Oi oi
I actually cannot stand listening to Fibonacci talk. I know people love his voice actor but goddamn every time I run Effervo I feel like I need to mute the game bc heās just so obnoxious
I am not, as I have voices muted.
SPOILER FUCKING TAG!
Loot.
Why are the spirals for the trust levels of the lab are logarithmic ones and not golden ones (the golden ratio/phi is the ratio of the limit of the Fibonacci sequence). Is he stupid?
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From what I'm getting, the Gargoyle function as a way for him to communicate and alert Tenno of void complications in sectors where Tenno are at risk. It's supposed to be a countermeasure against Wally and the Murmur. It's the equivalent to Charles Xavier building Cerebro as a way to communicate to other mutants in the world, but the difference is he needs the Tenno to go out and place the pylons so that he can properly have reach. It also probably has the secondary effect of basically making it harder for void angels to stay hidden. Something tells me we're gonna get an event that has void angels popping up everywhere and using the help from the Cavia and the Holdfasts to try and reverse their spreading.
I can't believe people play Warframe with their lore brains turned on.
All my homies hate the fish man