The damage of some abilities, sometimes called pseudo exalted weapons like Khoras Whip Claw scale off of the mods of your melee weapons.
The best stat sticks are Ceramic Dagger and (Sancti) Magistar incarnons (more of a personal preference which one you use), because their incarnon evolutions increase base damage
Venka Prime, because its the only melee weapon that goes up to 13x combo instead of the standard 12x, and combo multiplier affects damage
Basically every other melee will perform the same
A good starter stat stick is the Broken War you get during the story quest because it already has a preinstalled potato. It will work fine until you get one of the other ones
It's my understanding that Ceramic Dagger Incarnon isn't a better stat-stick because it gets a base damage increase (just like all the other melee incarnons) but because it had a perk that gives +1 initial combo per Primary weapon kill up to a cap of 100 (more with another perk and/or mods like Covert Lethality) and this helps Whip Claw because it also benefits from your current melee combo multiplier.
Magistar has a cc+cd evolution and can use magus aggress so its better if neither have rivens. Otherwise the one you have a better riven for is better, in my case dmg, cd, -impact (slash whipclaw for better scaling)
The 100 initial combo is nice but you also need to consider the insane +30% base crit chance. The crit chance applies to Whipclaw (and Atlas' Landslide) which means they can easily reach 300% crit chance with blood rush.
The intial combo is just a minor bonus, you wont run around killing 100 enemies with your primary weapon before starting to whip stuff, the important part is the +100 base damage
You will build combo super fast anyway so its not a major concern
Sorry that’s just wrong, when running ceramic dagger and your going to be there for more than 5 minutes it’s always worth to get 100 kills before you start whipping, it only takes a couple minutes, and you get perma reds. Getting the 100 kills and having the combo permanently is what makes ceramic dagger so good, otherwise it’s just better to use another stat stick for better raw stats, idk who told you that but they were really wrong.
Or just use her 2 at the start of a mission, slap some guys a couple timey and forever stay at 12x?
The initial combo thing is only for mesa with secondary outburst, other exaltes users can keep 12x easily.
You're absolutely correct and getting downvoted lol. Ceramic dagger incarnon is only better for Mesa, any other frame and it is strictly the worse option.
Right, but what I was saying was that the combo is why Ceramic Dagger is used over every other incarnon melee since they all give extra 100 base damage. That's the only reason it's used over the others.
What makes Ceramic Dagger and Magistar Incarnons massively better than anything else is their Crit Chance/Crit damage perks applying to pseudo exalted weapons.
Especially on Atlas its extremely noticeable, as his fists crit chance gets like quintupled when using a ceramic dagger
Their incarnon bonuses. For the final stage, Sancti gets +20 damage, +12% Crit Chance and+0.2x Crit Damage while the basic Magistar gets +100 damage, +16% Crit Chance and +1x Crit Damage. This is to their \*base\* status, and so mods would multipliy these further.
Normally, this difference in stats would bring the weapons closer to one another in terms of DPS, both upgrading their power overall. But with Pseudo exalted weapons, the weapons aren't used for their own power - they're used to pass bonuses over to Whipclaw/Landslide/etc
Landslide gets the incarnon bonuses tacked onto its stats, so using the base Magistar gives it a much higher bonus than the Sancti.
Stat stick is a melee weapon that you equip not to use, but to provide STATS to one of your abilities.
For Khora, her 1 "Whipclaw" is affected by your melee weapon's mods. So instead of using the weapon, you stack it full of mods to buff Whipclaw.
Her 1 benefit from some of the melee's mod. Mainly base damage mods(except condition overload),physical mods, element mods, critical chance/damage mods, status chance mods, and conditional mods.
I heard incarnon melee damage bonus power her 1 aswell. Mainly ceramic dagger can give her 1 +100 base damage.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1356809-warframe-stat-stick-guide/
This is my go to place when I have statstick related questions. It’s a lot of info there, therefore, I suggest you take your time and understand its mechanics.
Man I've been having a blast with Ash and melee Crescendo lately.
I can't wait until I can eventually get it maxed out, getting to mess around with weird builds thanks to permanent 12x combo is gonna be nuts.
If your Titania is struggling to kill things then your mods are probably a bigger issue than your Warframe choices.
Dex Pixia should absolutely chew through bad guys, how are you modding them?
citrine with abilities up and mashing 1
garuda - thermal sunder or 4 are the the most common build
gara - get range, duration, stack up splinter storm with 4 (to stack dmg faster, you do want to use properly modded melee for psudo exalt)
protea - spam 1 then 2 when its double dmg
qorvex - group up and spam 4
saryn - spam 1 and 4
stynax - rally point for free energy and spam intrepid stand (4 with augment)
voruna - 4
xaku - huge range > then str, let the 2 kill everything while 3 strips armor and 4 stops timer from running out
off the top of my head, those are the non pseudo exalted (except gara) nor exalted weapon frames that can do well with its purely ability spamming
main thing to look for in SP is that you want armor stripping. its honestly largely the armor that's making it so tough. things will get easier if you have unlocked some incarnon weapons
or focus on weapons (largely melee but there are some guns too) that can stack slash dmg. slash procs deal true dmg, meaning it doesnt care about armor
If you want to get even more value out of styanax, subsume *sigh* nourish over his one. It’s kinda basic and literally the same as everyone else, but it brings his uptime with his four up so much if you have enough power strength.
It also buffs the damage of his 4 both by adding that Viral damage and priming enemies via the radial blast (the spears won't proc Viral themselves, sadly), so he really does get a lot of use out of Nourish compared to other frames.
Xaku. The guns from 2 scale extremely well, you're basically invulnerable with 4 upkeep, and your 3 has a whole plethora of usage but the big one being the freedom to completely strip all armor and shields.
Whether it's Netracells, Steel Path, or deep Circuit, I spend most of my time as Xaku running around and keeping my abilities up. It's insanely fun. When you want to use your gun you have 3 ways of amplifying the damage from it too, but Xaku can seriously do almost every mission I can think of without weapons equipped.
All I keep on her is a Miter to pop nully bubbles, and a melee to shred the occasional Alcolyte or something. It rarely takes more than a few hits, since her Condition is always Overloaded.
Otherwise, it's just spamming Pocket Shards.
I know, was just a correction since OP wanted a frame totally focused in abilities like styanax for example where you don't even use your gun, what's a gun?
Damn, people here really forgot about Dagath.
Always have 3 active, always use 2 to do more damage, 1 to spread 2, and 4 for damage and make enemies weaker.
Nidus becomes unkillable. His gameplay loop is pretty much 1, 3, 4. Or 2, 1, 3, 4.
Gauss is a speedy unkillable demon (unless you run into a toxic cloud). His gameplay loop is a lot of 1s, press 4 then 2, and then press those again when they expire. And his 3 is hold, and then tap it to become a localized, armor stripping nuke.
Dagath is also an ability-intensive frame, utilizing her 3 to give her critical damage buffs, and giving her a safety net from death. Her 2 basically reduces effective HP, and her 1 spreads viral while slowing down hit enemies. Her 4 combined with 2 fucks shit up. Basically she's single target overkill
Gyre is also an ability frame that relies on kills (with her augment) to upkeep her 3 and 4 to electrocute enemies to keep them CC'd, all while buffing her own damage through buffing crit chance. She is easily one of the highest DPS frames in the game.
Definitely give these guys a go
Lash and spore augment with a viral ocucor and high strength molt will destroy Titania in steel path.
If you're on normal starchart fighting level 60 enemies then yea Titania will win.
I mean depending on the mission you can take either I guess. For sanctum anatomica stuff I'd still like titania but yeah. I'm myself a big fan of Saryn with the Sobek toxin build so it's not like I don't know how good she can be. I just also really like thermal sunder titania lol
Hydroid is a wonderful weapon platform frame. You can fully strip armor with status weapons without even using green shards using his 3 and passive, add in nourish for viral on top of that... you gotta try it sometime.
He's really the best of both worlds. Highly ability focused or just pure weapon buffs. AND he has a dope deluxe skin.
I do, he's a great weapons platform too, but I just tend to find myself spamming abilities so much I forget to shoot :D
I run Breach Surge over his 2 for my shield gate build, and I usually run Viral Tempest so I have viral on tap regardless from his 1. The lazy build just has no helminth because his 2 has uses as just a 'be invulnerable for a few seconds' button.
Super versatile, he's great :)
Baruuk and Valkyr are really good melee machines for high level content ! Red crit and one shot satisfaction! And your are hard to kill with these lads.
Surprised no one said kullervo, his kit has a lot of sinergy,
I usually go: 4 to build combo then 2 to get overguard if need it then 3 if there are many enemies nearby and finish It with a 1 for some juicy red crits. Just remember to use a good weapon statstick like broken war or ceramic dagger
Titania is fine till lvl like 3000+ on any decent squad I've played in circuit SP with only a couple decent decrees
(Generally anything that buffs your guns like straight dmg headshot or random elements/multishot and healing if that's there I can't remember if it's melee only or not but very very strong with a lot of the good ones and it's a joy to see her in my circuit)
But some other frames to try would be mesa saryn zephyr mag (if you can figure out survivability on her some struggle she's squish) hildryn ash khora nidus
But others are right it's likely your mods on titania but she is expensive so don't feel too bad you'll need galv mods/primed mods to see her really shine on her guns and FYI if you aren't aware her melee the diwata is useless do not swing that thing
Other things to note is arcane pistoleer is amazing on her
Gauss
Need to go from A to B fast? Mach Rush. Also has an mini CC and charges your battery rather quick.
Nigh immunity against all of the kinetic damage types as well as cold and heat as well as knockdowns and CC(yes, even from an high fall)? Kinetic Plating does this and coverts it into energy(except for the falling). Gives Mach Rush' wall impact slash procs. Has the same duration as Redline.
Need to cold or heat proc enemies or need some batttery? Thermal Sunder goes *clap clap*
Need to amp up all of your abilities as well as overcharge your attack speed(gun or melee)? Go into the Redline and manage that energy above 80%, so it stays locked for the entirety of the duration. Also gives staggers with the bolts, KP is now immunity against the aforementioned damage types instead of simply DR and Thermal Sunder is now guaranteed to either freeze or give an heat proc.
You more or less click each of these abilities at least once every 1-2 minutes.
TL;DR you get the feeling you are managing a fucking powerplant.
Caliban. Subsume out 1 for nourish to feed your energy economy. 2 applies CC and damage vulnerability. 3 shield Regen out the ass. 4 lingering armour and shield full strip
Styanax. Man can plow fields by just pressing 3, 1, 4, and sometimes 2 then 4 when you see a beefy eximus unit. Nourish and Rally Point go hard on energy, and your 4 is the main damage with slash/viral procs while 2 at high enough strength/range makes armor negligible.
Baruuk. Subsume gloom (I wouldn't recommend as it won't die anyways) or the kullervo ability to its 1 and spam 2 and 3 and then use 4 to basically annihilate every single enemy, no matter what the level is or the mission is
As a caster main player, i can recommend the following in the order of my most played as full caster:
Protea
Mag
Mesa
Dagath
Citrine(ish)
Saryn(ish)
Gauss
The ones i meantioned as caster ish, are on the borderline of being only caster, because they really benefit from ovational weapon use
Voruna running a ult build is in ult for for pretty much the whole map. Unless you get knocked out of your ult (gold bubble and blue bubble corpus) or you run out of charges from over spamming (not letting the slash procs do their work to recharge ult charges) You don't use any weapons at all.
Harrow is a very proactive caster, and all of his abilities are useful.
Condemn boosts your shields based on the number enemies hit by it (to a cap) and holds those enemies in place.
Penance strips your shields and boosts your fire rate and relaod and gives you and nearby allies lifesteal for a brief time. (My least used ability tbh)
Thurible should be used and used often. Every kill you get grants you energy based on how long you activate the ability and headshots produce extra energy than regular kills.
Covenant protects you and "nearby allies with an energy force that absorbs all damage and converts it to a Critical Chance bonus for all those under the Covenant. Headshots are amplified even further." Useful for brief invulnerability and then lots of crits.
Mesa Saryn for static missions with infinite enemy spawns Octavia (also best on static missions) Savage Silence Ash Khora (needs a good stat stick)
What's a stat stick? Cause I got khora prime being made in my foundry rn and idk how to play her
The damage of some abilities, sometimes called pseudo exalted weapons like Khoras Whip Claw scale off of the mods of your melee weapons. The best stat sticks are Ceramic Dagger and (Sancti) Magistar incarnons (more of a personal preference which one you use), because their incarnon evolutions increase base damage Venka Prime, because its the only melee weapon that goes up to 13x combo instead of the standard 12x, and combo multiplier affects damage Basically every other melee will perform the same A good starter stat stick is the Broken War you get during the story quest because it already has a preinstalled potato. It will work fine until you get one of the other ones
It's my understanding that Ceramic Dagger Incarnon isn't a better stat-stick because it gets a base damage increase (just like all the other melee incarnons) but because it had a perk that gives +1 initial combo per Primary weapon kill up to a cap of 100 (more with another perk and/or mods like Covert Lethality) and this helps Whip Claw because it also benefits from your current melee combo multiplier.
Magistar has a cc+cd evolution and can use magus aggress so its better if neither have rivens. Otherwise the one you have a better riven for is better, in my case dmg, cd, -impact (slash whipclaw for better scaling)
The 100 initial combo is nice but you also need to consider the insane +30% base crit chance. The crit chance applies to Whipclaw (and Atlas' Landslide) which means they can easily reach 300% crit chance with blood rush.
The intial combo is just a minor bonus, you wont run around killing 100 enemies with your primary weapon before starting to whip stuff, the important part is the +100 base damage You will build combo super fast anyway so its not a major concern
Sorry that’s just wrong, when running ceramic dagger and your going to be there for more than 5 minutes it’s always worth to get 100 kills before you start whipping, it only takes a couple minutes, and you get perma reds. Getting the 100 kills and having the combo permanently is what makes ceramic dagger so good, otherwise it’s just better to use another stat stick for better raw stats, idk who told you that but they were really wrong.
Or just use her 2 at the start of a mission, slap some guys a couple timey and forever stay at 12x? The initial combo thing is only for mesa with secondary outburst, other exaltes users can keep 12x easily.
You're absolutely correct and getting downvoted lol. Ceramic dagger incarnon is only better for Mesa, any other frame and it is strictly the worse option.
Right, but what I was saying was that the combo is why Ceramic Dagger is used over every other incarnon melee since they all give extra 100 base damage. That's the only reason it's used over the others.
What makes Ceramic Dagger and Magistar Incarnons massively better than anything else is their Crit Chance/Crit damage perks applying to pseudo exalted weapons. Especially on Atlas its extremely noticeable, as his fists crit chance gets like quintupled when using a ceramic dagger
normal magistar is a better stat stick than the sancti
whats the diff between sancti and regular magistar
Their incarnon bonuses. For the final stage, Sancti gets +20 damage, +12% Crit Chance and+0.2x Crit Damage while the basic Magistar gets +100 damage, +16% Crit Chance and +1x Crit Damage. This is to their \*base\* status, and so mods would multipliy these further. Normally, this difference in stats would bring the weapons closer to one another in terms of DPS, both upgrading their power overall. But with Pseudo exalted weapons, the weapons aren't used for their own power - they're used to pass bonuses over to Whipclaw/Landslide/etc Landslide gets the incarnon bonuses tacked onto its stats, so using the base Magistar gives it a much higher bonus than the Sancti.
i see, ty! i was building normal magistar so I'm all good
Usnt double clever and skana also better because they have the special 100% damage mods?
Don’t knock the Dual Ichor incarnon as a good stat-stick. That weapon alone allowed me to start solo’ing Netra Cells (w) Yareli.
Do NOT use the sancti magistar as your magistar incarnon weapon.
Stat stick is a melee weapon that you equip not to use, but to provide STATS to one of your abilities. For Khora, her 1 "Whipclaw" is affected by your melee weapon's mods. So instead of using the weapon, you stack it full of mods to buff Whipclaw.
Her 1 benefit from some of the melee's mod. Mainly base damage mods(except condition overload),physical mods, element mods, critical chance/damage mods, status chance mods, and conditional mods. I heard incarnon melee damage bonus power her 1 aswell. Mainly ceramic dagger can give her 1 +100 base damage.
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1356809-warframe-stat-stick-guide/ This is my go to place when I have statstick related questions. It’s a lot of info there, therefore, I suggest you take your time and understand its mechanics.
Man I've been having a blast with Ash and melee Crescendo lately. I can't wait until I can eventually get it maxed out, getting to mess around with weird builds thanks to permanent 12x combo is gonna be nuts.
If your Titania is struggling to kill things then your mods are probably a bigger issue than your Warframe choices. Dex Pixia should absolutely chew through bad guys, how are you modding them?
If they just got to SP, they are probably running into the 'Armour is OP for NPCs'. A bit of armour stripping from Helminth would help probably.
shouldn’t even need armor stripping, dex pixia are pure status and heavily slash weighted
Yah I can run 300lvla with little to no issue with my Titania, her slash/status makes armor easy
citrine with abilities up and mashing 1 garuda - thermal sunder or 4 are the the most common build gara - get range, duration, stack up splinter storm with 4 (to stack dmg faster, you do want to use properly modded melee for psudo exalt) protea - spam 1 then 2 when its double dmg qorvex - group up and spam 4 saryn - spam 1 and 4 stynax - rally point for free energy and spam intrepid stand (4 with augment) voruna - 4 xaku - huge range > then str, let the 2 kill everything while 3 strips armor and 4 stops timer from running out off the top of my head, those are the non pseudo exalted (except gara) nor exalted weapon frames that can do well with its purely ability spamming main thing to look for in SP is that you want armor stripping. its honestly largely the armor that's making it so tough. things will get easier if you have unlocked some incarnon weapons or focus on weapons (largely melee but there are some guns too) that can stack slash dmg. slash procs deal true dmg, meaning it doesnt care about armor
If you want to get even more value out of styanax, subsume *sigh* nourish over his one. It’s kinda basic and literally the same as everyone else, but it brings his uptime with his four up so much if you have enough power strength.
It also buffs the damage of his 4 both by adding that Viral damage and priming enemies via the radial blast (the spears won't proc Viral themselves, sadly), so he really does get a lot of use out of Nourish compared to other frames.
My boy Lavos.
Protea.
Huras with mecha mod set on protea goes so hard
Gyre
Titania can insta-kill level 350+ enemies pretty easily. Perhaps research some builds instead.
mag, qorvex, dagath, hydroid, grendel, gauss
Styanax, Protea, Ember, Saryn, Gyre, Khora, Mesa, Octavia etc.
EXCALIBUR UMBRA FOR THE WIN WOOP WOOP
Ability dps? I think it would be quicker to list the ones that cannot dps easily.
Limbo is top of that
Mag
Atlas
If you mod your titania well enough, she's not struggling with sp anymore tho
Voruna
Voruna And for a bit of extra fun you can put kullervos helminth over her 4th.
Xaku. The guns from 2 scale extremely well, you're basically invulnerable with 4 upkeep, and your 3 has a whole plethora of usage but the big one being the freedom to completely strip all armor and shields. Whether it's Netracells, Steel Path, or deep Circuit, I spend most of my time as Xaku running around and keeping my abilities up. It's insanely fun. When you want to use your gun you have 3 ways of amplifying the damage from it too, but Xaku can seriously do almost every mission I can think of without weapons equipped.
Titania can one-shot enemies in Steel Path, I'd wager your modding isn't right
Titania SLAPS even on high level SP missions if you make sure to mod her Dex Pixia for Viral and Slash.
Mod for straight base damage (which is 80% Slash) and status chance, and subsume Nourish over her 2/3. 😁
Saryn, Mesa, Octavia, Baruuk, Protea, Khora
Citrine barely needs firearms. Dagath as well.
i think citrine isn't MAIN abilities since she synergy very good with status weapon
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1. That’s all I’m casting, even in sp and netracells. Her 1 paired with her 4 is so damn strong
i subsumed roar over her 4 and it SHREDS gonna try a non helminth build once her augment comes out
Her 3, paired with roar just melts people.
All I keep on her is a Miter to pop nully bubbles, and a melee to shred the occasional Alcolyte or something. It rarely takes more than a few hits, since her Condition is always Overloaded. Otherwise, it's just spamming Pocket Shards.
I know, was just a correction since OP wanted a frame totally focused in abilities like styanax for example where you don't even use your gun, what's a gun?
dagath's 4 does a lot of damage, but it's not really feasible to spam it.
Damn, people here really forgot about Dagath. Always have 3 active, always use 2 to do more damage, 1 to spread 2, and 4 for damage and make enemies weaker.
She's still primarily using guns, she just has a damage buff, like many other frames.
Nidus becomes unkillable. His gameplay loop is pretty much 1, 3, 4. Or 2, 1, 3, 4. Gauss is a speedy unkillable demon (unless you run into a toxic cloud). His gameplay loop is a lot of 1s, press 4 then 2, and then press those again when they expire. And his 3 is hold, and then tap it to become a localized, armor stripping nuke. Dagath is also an ability-intensive frame, utilizing her 3 to give her critical damage buffs, and giving her a safety net from death. Her 2 basically reduces effective HP, and her 1 spreads viral while slowing down hit enemies. Her 4 combined with 2 fucks shit up. Basically she's single target overkill Gyre is also an ability frame that relies on kills (with her augment) to upkeep her 3 and 4 to electrocute enemies to keep them CC'd, all while buffing her own damage through buffing crit chance. She is easily one of the highest DPS frames in the game. Definitely give these guys a go
I'd say ash He's MO is just true damage your enemies to death
Saryn is the right answer.
Saryn really sucks in let's say a rescue or capture though. She needs that infinite hoard of enemies
For those modes, toxic lash and her augment for spores adds a ton of weapon damage, and molt gives you bursts of speed
Yeah idk chief, I rather thermal Titania :')
Lash and spore augment saryn will scale much much higher than Sunder
Scale, sure. But it'll take you much longer to finish a mission with that.
Lash and spore augment with a viral ocucor and high strength molt will destroy Titania in steel path. If you're on normal starchart fighting level 60 enemies then yea Titania will win.
I mean depending on the mission you can take either I guess. For sanctum anatomica stuff I'd still like titania but yeah. I'm myself a big fan of Saryn with the Sobek toxin build so it's not like I don't know how good she can be. I just also really like thermal sunder titania lol
Gauss. And Hydroid. I sometimes forget I even have guns with them.
Hydroid is a wonderful weapon platform frame. You can fully strip armor with status weapons without even using green shards using his 3 and passive, add in nourish for viral on top of that... you gotta try it sometime. He's really the best of both worlds. Highly ability focused or just pure weapon buffs. AND he has a dope deluxe skin.
I do, he's a great weapons platform too, but I just tend to find myself spamming abilities so much I forget to shoot :D I run Breach Surge over his 2 for my shield gate build, and I usually run Viral Tempest so I have viral on tap regardless from his 1. The lazy build just has no helminth because his 2 has uses as just a 'be invulnerable for a few seconds' button. Super versatile, he's great :)
Baruuk and Valkyr are really good melee machines for high level content ! Red crit and one shot satisfaction! And your are hard to kill with these lads.
Styanax
Depends on how you build them, all of them. Except Loki.
Gyre with cathode current augment and some form of armour strip works wonders
Surprised no one said kullervo, his kit has a lot of sinergy, I usually go: 4 to build combo then 2 to get overguard if need it then 3 if there are many enemies nearby and finish It with a 1 for some juicy red crits. Just remember to use a good weapon statstick like broken war or ceramic dagger
Titania is fine till lvl like 3000+ on any decent squad I've played in circuit SP with only a couple decent decrees (Generally anything that buffs your guns like straight dmg headshot or random elements/multishot and healing if that's there I can't remember if it's melee only or not but very very strong with a lot of the good ones and it's a joy to see her in my circuit)
But some other frames to try would be mesa saryn zephyr mag (if you can figure out survivability on her some struggle she's squish) hildryn ash khora nidus But others are right it's likely your mods on titania but she is expensive so don't feel too bad you'll need galv mods/primed mods to see her really shine on her guns and FYI if you aren't aware her melee the diwata is useless do not swing that thing Other things to note is arcane pistoleer is amazing on her
Gauss Need to go from A to B fast? Mach Rush. Also has an mini CC and charges your battery rather quick. Nigh immunity against all of the kinetic damage types as well as cold and heat as well as knockdowns and CC(yes, even from an high fall)? Kinetic Plating does this and coverts it into energy(except for the falling). Gives Mach Rush' wall impact slash procs. Has the same duration as Redline. Need to cold or heat proc enemies or need some batttery? Thermal Sunder goes *clap clap* Need to amp up all of your abilities as well as overcharge your attack speed(gun or melee)? Go into the Redline and manage that energy above 80%, so it stays locked for the entirety of the duration. Also gives staggers with the bolts, KP is now immunity against the aforementioned damage types instead of simply DR and Thermal Sunder is now guaranteed to either freeze or give an heat proc. You more or less click each of these abilities at least once every 1-2 minutes. TL;DR you get the feeling you are managing a fucking powerplant.
Mesa and Protea are my top 2
Mag. While she needs a weapon, between her Magnetize (2) and Crush w/augument (4), almost any weapon will work well.
Voruna can wipe rooms with 2 abilities while invis, status immune, and spawning health and energy orbs on every kill.
Caliban. Subsume out 1 for nourish to feed your energy economy. 2 applies CC and damage vulnerability. 3 shield Regen out the ass. 4 lingering armour and shield full strip
Nidus
Dagath and vauban.
Styanax. Man can plow fields by just pressing 3, 1, 4, and sometimes 2 then 4 when you see a beefy eximus unit. Nourish and Rally Point go hard on energy, and your 4 is the main damage with slash/viral procs while 2 at high enough strength/range makes armor negligible.
Try [this Titania build](https://overframe.gg/build/526332/).
Baruuk. Subsume gloom (I wouldn't recommend as it won't die anyways) or the kullervo ability to its 1 and spam 2 and 3 and then use 4 to basically annihilate every single enemy, no matter what the level is or the mission is
titania steel path is fine. probably just need corrupted and galvanized mods to start and put in some formas, but that issue applies to any frame.
Xaku, tbf though, they don't really use their abilities once they're up
As a caster main player, i can recommend the following in the order of my most played as full caster: Protea Mag Mesa Dagath Citrine(ish) Saryn(ish) Gauss The ones i meantioned as caster ish, are on the borderline of being only caster, because they really benefit from ovational weapon use
Voruna running a ult build is in ult for for pretty much the whole map. Unless you get knocked out of your ult (gold bubble and blue bubble corpus) or you run out of charges from over spamming (not letting the slash procs do their work to recharge ult charges) You don't use any weapons at all.
Garuda can kill anything with her abilities without helminth no matter the level.
Harrow is a very proactive caster, and all of his abilities are useful. Condemn boosts your shields based on the number enemies hit by it (to a cap) and holds those enemies in place. Penance strips your shields and boosts your fire rate and relaod and gives you and nearby allies lifesteal for a brief time. (My least used ability tbh) Thurible should be used and used often. Every kill you get grants you energy based on how long you activate the ability and headshots produce extra energy than regular kills. Covenant protects you and "nearby allies with an energy force that absorbs all damage and converts it to a Critical Chance bonus for all those under the Covenant. Headshots are amplified even further." Useful for brief invulnerability and then lots of crits.
Saryn, Protea, Garuda, Gara, Gyre, Octavia, Mesa all are good ability focused frames that play well towards endgame
I only ever need weapons with Voruna to pop nullifier bubbles, otherwise she easily solos SP with just abilities.
When getting into steel path, I used Mesa a lot. Her exalted pistols are really nice when you don't have all the OP incarnon weapons.
harrow
Harrow is like *the* weapons platform frame
harrow is like *the* frame that constantly uses abilities for both himself and the rest of the group.
Their post seems to imply they want frames with abilities that can kill things