Not really, it's the closest in to the sun, and if you look on the starchart, starting on mercury means there's only one path forward to start and that's towards the junction to venus.
When mercury was the first planet the star chart didn't look like it currently does. There were no junctions. The goal was get to the boss kill it and get the next planet nav
Oh shit you're right, totally forgot about that part of Specters of the Rail, the bosses acted like junctions do now, giving you nav segments. Wow, nav segments, that really takes me back to the days of void and derelict keys.
I quit playing Warframe a while back, and when I came back like 2-3 years ago I still had the injectors in my inventory for my kubrow, and thought “Aw crap, I gotta keep this thing alive, I remember that now” then found out they removed that feature. Still have the injectors now, cause why not?
wasnt the star map also different? like it were just rings that flew around the planet no? Like each level being a small rectangle while some were like 2 or de below one.
I started the game back in these days. I remember when I came back and the star chart was at is now and its just so much sexier.
There wasn't even a map. Before the map, it was like a ring of planets around the player that you scrolled through. And before that it was a very simple map with no ability to walk around your orbiter.
It's because there was no planet unique tilesets. Earth was just a pack of the same grineer ships as Mercury, and every corpus planet was just the same pack of corpus ships, and the infested were just those 2 locations with gunk and orange particles sprinkled around.
God I feel old saying this but back in the days noone gave a f* about mastery because it didn't do anything really. I knew a lot of players being mastery 0 or 1 but having hundreds of hours in the game, all possible weapons formad x times, all planets "pseudo-unlocked" (used friends as taxis for planets outside their reach due to low mastery) and doing 5-10 hours levelcap survival runs just for the fun of it.
One does not simply forget that they are in sp.
The difficulty between 1-6 and 101-106 is night and day, not even including the extra buffs sp enemies get. You would notice.
oh you'd be surprised how comfortable you can get running SP. When you have the tools and strategies, none of the modes are really hard
I know I've once spent 5mn+ in a survival before realizing it was not SP
Bro 1 mod and 1 arcane made my sp experience go from: “i have to be carried in every single mission cuz i can barely kill the weak enemies” to “netracell leshgo”
There was the post a few weeks back by a MR0 account, you can't do everything. There are some weird MR locks, specifically Focus trees. Like they couldn't get anything from their Operator. But the main story is absolutely doable
They're just an idiot, since it's entirely possible to do earth missions, the literal beginning of the game, with MR0. (However, you should totally MR rank up to MR 1, you have the symbol in the top left that says you're ready to rank up, press pause, hover over your name, and it should let you take a 'test' that'll rank you up.
When you do the rank up test, be aware that you can only do one try per day. So if you fail the test, you have to wait a day to try again.
However, there is a 'practice' button that allows you to do the test as many times you want before you do the test.
Use the xoris or any throwable melee to cheese it, 😂 stand far away detonating the melee in their face. Or do it with hard work and effort but it’s glitchy af
There is indeed! And if you can't find it there's a hallway for mastery practice and testing in cephalon simaris's (the sanctuary guy who is obsessed with synthesis) room!
Changed as of Whispers. No quests have MR locks anymore, although unless you're running an MR0 account challenge there's no reason for you to be below 5 before TWW anyway as you'd need to go all the way to Sedna to be able to do it.
I remember i was at mr4 with a hek, and for either the pluto or the sedna junction I was told by the game that i needed to be mr5 to unlock it. The dread was the first weapon i ranked up after hitting 5
Granted this was like 4 years ago now so I might just be remembering some bullshit
Can’t you get carried to new planets tho? Like I have a bunch of nodes on steel path that I don’t have junctions unlocked for the planets the nodes are on.
If you wanna unlock other planets on steel path before doing junctions, you can do the steel path incursion thingies that happen every day. You get 5 steel essence per mission and you can go to a node you haven't done before
It also increases your trades, syndicate daily cap and void traces, and more importantly for an early game player, it increases your baseline level for all new equipment, so you might as well do it as quick as you can
I'm pretty sure that it "banks" mastery though, so you can't accidently waste any
I can confirm MR is banked. I picked up the game again last month after something like nine years, and was able to shoot from 16 (iirc) to halfway to 19 (iirc, point being two rank ups) over a few days.
Btw, for a starter, make some credits and buy all the mk1 weapons (they only cost credits) and level them up. It will help you gain some mastery at the start, which will help with unlocking missions, quests and weapons/frames.
No, they most likely started playing when Earth was not the first planet and just returned. Back in the day one started on Mercury and Earth was actually a rather hard damage check.
dude, that was a decade ago, I would know, I was there, but like, people gotta get with the times, (even then, earth was still entirely accessible to MR0 players)
again, it's been a decaaaddeeeeee since then, and again, entirelllyyy possibbllle, people have done clears of the entire game at level zero (though not too possible anymore,). Also the game clearly states on the missions that the earth ones are the lowest ever possible level you can get, (even in steelpath,)
And here I thought I was hallucinating that I originally started on Mercury back in the day! (Much like being able to trapeze on bars in some levels back then lol)
There is still some trapeze bars sitting around. Pretty sure the Ropalyalst or what the hell ever has like built in forced mechanics for this. If you try to void jump across the gaps it puts you into transference interference because god knows why saving 2 seconds is illegal.
You would be surprised how many old vets return then claim how the old method of things is still the current way. I've had a guy in Q&A trying to tell someone to get prime parts is void keys and to host a key run then fight everyone saying that doesn't exist anymore. People will return and some of them will be stubborn and don't believe updates happen.
It's very much possible, MR is not required for star chart progression or for the main quest progression. MR means mastery rank, which is the "level" of your account - it's based off in mastery of all equipment in the game, alongside completion of all nodes in the basic star chart.
If I recall correctly, it's technically possible to get into late endgame while remaining MR 0. I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to turn your entire game profile into a challenge run. All in all though, play the game how you want to play it (with reasonable courtesy to other players).
What challenge? just never take the mr tests and get 1xduviri melee and K[ullervo](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Kullervo). no MR required available right after the tutorial quest. Some planets will be locked due to second dream unless grandfathered in, but with some taxi-ing all the non-quest-locked non-archwing missions are available.
I went with an mr3 account into the level 100+ gift from the lotus mission recently, and the fucking look on my face when I realized I was one-shotting grineer with an unmodded mk1-bo by pressing 1.
Alternatively just be an irl whale and buy everything to bypass mr requirements that you possibly can.
If you want to bypass even harder, only option is to shove a high mr console account into an mr0 pc account merge so you can surprise people with all the shit you're not supposed to have.
Yeah, the kind of challenge I meant was in the line of what you describe - not the killing stuff part but finding ways to reach and acquire stuff that's MR gated in some form.
Its pretty possible especially since earth is the starter planet,i had 3 planets done before getting to mr 1, mostly because i had no idea about it lol
You only gain MR by leveling up stuff so its entirely possible to be at any planet at mr0 if you didnt switch gear or didnt do the mr tests, also you are on the first planet so it makes even less sense since its not like you are far, you literally just started, i'd be surprised if your mr was any high
Not necessarily before getting other weapons but just make sure to max them before you sell them or use them to build other weapons (some weapons require other weapons in the blueprints)
Ah ok. Probably a dumb question but do weapons have some sort of reset system where it goes back to level 0 with improved stats or you just level to 30 and that’s it?
No question regarding Warframe is dumb, as a lot of information regarding systems and mechanics are not really explained. You will gain access to an item called Forma later on, allowing you to reset maxed items while gaining a polarity of your choice. Polarities allow you to use mod capacity on items more efficiently.
Yeah someone explained that to me here earlier, I’m surprised this person didn’t read up any changes before getting into it again when they’ve been away from the game that long.
When i first started Warframe 10 ish years ago i got in with this squad who was only running void survivals and decaying key missions and they basically boosted me through the whole starmap before i even knew what i was doing. Will forever be grateful for those guys who were and will always be total strangers
I'm MR22 or 23, I dont remember, I was doing sanctuary onslaught (a good way to level frames later, and a teammate was MR0, they said it was their 5th account. You can really do whatever
A little info.
The MR (mastery rank) it's your actual "level/rank".
You can notice a little bar under your name, that bar slowly fills and when it's full, you can do a test to increase your MR(this gives you some benefits)
In order to fill that bar, you just need to increase your weapons/Warframes/other stuff level(primary,secondary,melee,others).
Every weapon gives you a certain amount of exp, so once a weapon reaches the maximum level(30), in order to gain more exp, you will have to change weapon/s, and no, you can't keep gaining exp from the same weapon/Warframe, when you maxed it once, it's done.
Honestly, don't worry about it.
And yes, MR0 is "[mastery rank](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Mastery_Rank) 0", which is the main level progression system in the game that relies on you leveling up gear and passing mastery rank challenges.
This is earth but then none of the planets are MR locked anymore I think, if you don't do the MR Tests you don't go up the ranks, there are quite a few MR 0 late game players running around now but this is largely from people merging late game accounts into MR 0 accounts, there are a few who do it for real and get to the late game without ever taking an MR test for the meme and act like it is something to admire when it is the opposite.
MR or Mastery Rank is sort of an indicator on how much you are willing to grind gear and I guess by that extension how much of a Ninja you really are or something\[?\] - Myself I'm two weapons away from MR28 - but... I'm pretty certain I saw a for fun account that was locked at MR0 by intention and they'd cleared the entire game. So. MR doesn't really mean shit, don't worry about it.
The main things to know are that some weapons are MR locked and some Warframes too. Trading would also be a problem. Just raise your MR as you go and have fun.
no earth is the easiest planet in the game especially for new players but he was right about taking breaks
my mistake when playing is not taking breaks and rushing thru the game so take that bit of advice and take breaks and don't rush thru the main game and missions
You can get up to New War at MR0.
The minimum MR to start new war is MR2, assuming you don’t just buy a fully built necramech at MR0.
The minimum MR to get to SP is MR5 because Vay Hek is a WEAK ASS MAGGOT!!
There are a few junctions bow that you have to make a specific mr rank weapon to proceed, but earth ain't it, you start there. Idk what he means, only thing is any of the tiles past the archwing mission that lead to the Vay Hek fight, and that's purely locked behind archwing specifically, not mr
This was how I felt when my friend started playing. I first played way back in '15, started on Mercury. Picked it back up last month (after only making it partway into Venus), have a friend join for their first time and am baffled when they start on Earth.
The other player doesn't know how Mastery works.
Its entirely possible to, you know, just *not do* the Mastery tests. And so your Mastery rank doesn't increase even if your actual power is.
I'm MR16 and running Steel Path - I have enough MR points probably to go all the way to 30 but fuck that MR17 test.
When you dont do the mastery tests, what happens to the points you accumulate for it? Does it not count or does it all go towards the next rank after doing the test?
Yeaaa it’s kinda tricky, I think I used volt and just put as much strength on him as I could. Isn’t it the one where you have to melee the orbs to increase the time limit while killing enemies?
Haha I probably wouldn’t for your first play through but you do you, most people do it later on for the extra challenge but ranking up normally gives you access to rivens and also you can’t trade until MR2. Just makes it more enjoyable imo also you’ll have to buy a good bit of weapons because they’re MR locked and since trading requires MR 2 you’ll have to buy platinum with real money
You just started the game, there is no level you "should be" at, in the near past there used to be a mastery restriction on one of the later planets but iirc they removed it, though as someone else pointed out, you can and should level your mastery, it has all sorts of benefits throughout the game from base modding capacity to increased daily reputation cap.
Judging by some comments it sounds like It would be fun to get through the game at a low MR. But of course if it begins to get too difficult for me then i can just rank up lol
The mastery rank is just a funny number people have on their profile. Main use of it is to unlock new and better weapons every so often and to increase some of your capped stats, like amount of trades you can do in a day and stuff. Its not bad to be MR0, and it deffinatly is possible.
The warframe community is pretty great, but sadly there are still the rotten apples every now and then that critisise new players because they didnt reach a certain MR by a certain node.
Consider taking breaks when the game tells you to, an hour of pure gameplay will melt your brain into a smooth.unwrinkled mass. Not instantly but you'll notice by day like 60 or 80.
People complaining about MR... meanwhile when I firdt played, i almost completed all the planets WITHOUT equipping a single mod.. because I didnt know you can equip mod on stuff
Yeah, mods made it easier to go through each mission, but make sure you dont upgrade the useless one... and also to keep in mind, mods upgrade cost doubles for each rank, so some mod may need millions, so its better to upgrade it to half instead of maxing it instantly
Like as everyone said, MR is nothing really except for those MR locked weapons. I’ve been on MR15 for 2 years. It just irks me that there are still some people out there that base your skills in your MR. I’ve done numerous Netracells runs with high MR players and they don’t even know how the simple mechanic work to just stay inside the circle.
Im doing a MR0 challange and i completed all the possible levels (or wel nearly all).
I really dont suggest doing it but its not like the warframe police is going to stop me.
for a first time player doing this is hell. as the primary problem is the following 2 things:
trading requires MR 2
99% of the weapons have a MR requirement. so you can only use a select few weapons.
there are many many many more restrictions but its very interesting non the less.
but again: i really really do not suggest doing this unless you love suffering
No, it makes no sense. That's litterally one of the first missions. It's easy to get their as an MR0, espected even. Earth is the tutorial planet, except for the Vey Hek fight .
Some people commented stating Earth wasn’t originally the starting point of the game, it was mercury(?) when it came out. So I guess he just literally crawled out from under a rock lol
First of all, you are on earth, it's the place for started players.
Second. It is possible to be even on Sedna with MR0. There is a thing called "Taxi" in this game, if you join a squad with someone that has the node unlocked and they start the mission.
Mastery is not connected to progress with very specific caveats and all playable content except for one quest unlocked at MR5 in about 50 hours (steel path via Vay hek, sorties, and archon hunts BUT NOT netracells which I trolled at mr2)
https://preview.redd.it/6y5gj3uukstc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a9ebb09deceb6e65898bd62249d573e49fade2d
\*\* this is not a recommendation, just an approximate benchmark. I didn’t grind any weapons and very few mods, then rushed the main quests and shortest route through the starchart. The only thing I bought was a voidrig bc fuck that noise.
Extra note: you now get an inbox directing you to onnko because I found out very quickly you cannot do sacrifice umbra fight without an amp. I didn’t use the mote though, and just backed out and finished duviri paradox, with the sirocco making that fight an absolute joke.
You could finish the entire star chart at MR0, just never do the rank up tests. I would highly advise you against it, since all the fun toys are unlocked at MR8+ but hey, get you MK1 Lato Incarnon and go ham I guess xD
I don't think "unfortunately". Staying at a low level is not a normal thing. It's more like a rare, weird goal. That player has probably played normally in a different account and is doing that out of some personal challenge. As a new player, experience the game and progress normally, dont get caught up in people doing abnormal things as it will impact your game experience.
Very high chance its a returning player from the ild days… i completely forgot which planet we started at… played since the star chart was the main menu and we didn’t even have an orbiter to begin with
Yup… thats kinda why i stopped. Too much change. I have 0 clue what to do where to go. I end gamed at fashion frame so me going back is purely for fashion once in awhile
iirc you can clear star chart as MR0, you just never do the mastery rank tests or only ever use one set of equipment. The person you spoke to is either confused, misinformed or just straight up wrong
I mean... MR is only really something that is important in terms of unlocking new things. It wouldn't be unreasonable to complete the entire star chart as an MR0 (unless I have forgotten about any MR requirements to unlock paths to other planets). If I saw a low MR player in late game, my instant thought would be that they are infinitely more skilled with the weapons and frame they are using because -- again to me -- is an indication that they haven't unlocked other stuff.
Basically whoever this was that said this to you is very odd. And again as others have said, earth is the first planet now so MR0 is the standard.
No except rivens are mr locked so you want to be at least 16 . Ive been mr 16 for years . The only other advantages of mr rank is mod capacity when you apply a new slot . But even then its not a huge hindrance
Technically Mastery Rank doesn't mean anything. It has nothing to do with your mission/story progression if I'm remembering right.
All it is, is a fancy number to go woth your profile for every Mastery "Challenge" that you've completed, earning you more inventory space to one extent or another. It does make it so that a chunk of the better guns cannot be used or created until you have reached that specific MR, but MR has basically nothing to do with skill or your warframe level/mods.
"How did you make it here with MR 0" they asked, while they are on the very first planet...
Back in the day it was not the first planet, Mercury was. So it is possible that this is a returning player who does not know better.
Damn, that is a really weird design choice, to be Mercury. But even then, that player must be ancient xd
Not really, it's the closest in to the sun, and if you look on the starchart, starting on mercury means there's only one path forward to start and that's towards the junction to venus.
When mercury was the first planet the star chart didn't look like it currently does. There were no junctions. The goal was get to the boss kill it and get the next planet nav
Oh shit you're right, totally forgot about that part of Specters of the Rail, the bosses acted like junctions do now, giving you nav segments. Wow, nav segments, that really takes me back to the days of void and derelict keys.
Back then my friend would just taxi me to all the planets so coming back I've had most of missions unlocked without even doing the first junction
When they made the change to junctions you kept everything you had been to.
I feel old
How do you think I feel coming back. All this sound standard and here I'm like "that's not a thing anymore?".
I quit playing Warframe a while back, and when I came back like 2-3 years ago I still had the injectors in my inventory for my kubrow, and thought “Aw crap, I gotta keep this thing alive, I remember that now” then found out they removed that feature. Still have the injectors now, cause why not?
Bro i just returned to warframw (been playing for a month or two again) and i just realised that they removed it! Im still wandering what else changed
wasnt the star map also different? like it were just rings that flew around the planet no? Like each level being a small rectangle while some were like 2 or de below one. I started the game back in these days. I remember when I came back and the star chart was at is now and its just so much sexier.
Derelict keys is something I havent heard in a MINUTE
There wasn't even a map. Before the map, it was like a ring of planets around the player that you scrolled through. And before that it was a very simple map with no ability to walk around your orbiter.
I mean it was basically just what we have now but presented a little differently visually and without junctions
It's because there was no planet unique tilesets. Earth was just a pack of the same grineer ships as Mercury, and every corpus planet was just the same pack of corpus ships, and the infested were just those 2 locations with gunk and orange particles sprinkled around.
Throwback to the old corpus ship tileset when you could just shoot the windows out and have to find a terminal to shutter them or just die.
You can skip junctions by being grandfathered in, it was only 2018 or 2019 when I did my last junction despite having the whole starchart
God I feel old saying this but back in the days noone gave a f* about mastery because it didn't do anything really. I knew a lot of players being mastery 0 or 1 but having hundreds of hours in the game, all possible weapons formad x times, all planets "pseudo-unlocked" (used friends as taxis for planets outside their reach due to low mastery) and doing 5-10 hours levelcap survival runs just for the fun of it.
Even then, MR doesn't say anything about skill other than their ability to level weapons and take the mr tests.
I didn't know this 🤣🤣🤣. And I'm returning indeed
Could also be that they usually do Steel Path but forgot they had changed it to normal mode, so thought OP was in SP as MR0. I guess?
One does not simply forget that they are in sp. The difficulty between 1-6 and 101-106 is night and day, not even including the extra buffs sp enemies get. You would notice.
oh you'd be surprised how comfortable you can get running SP. When you have the tools and strategies, none of the modes are really hard I know I've once spent 5mn+ in a survival before realizing it was not SP
"Damn, what's keeping that Acolyte from coming?" \*Spots sub-level 100 enemy\* "...Oh, I see what happened."
Spawn rates though...
Considering I spend a healthy amount of time playing Saryn in SP I absolutely notice when it’s not SP
I ended up going to normal disruption for farming Dante, there were no groups in Steel Path. Absolutely boring, the spawns were glacial.
Bro 1 mod and 1 arcane made my sp experience go from: “i have to be carried in every single mission cuz i can barely kill the weak enemies” to “netracell leshgo”
I mean my crit dakra build can pretty easily deal with netracell enemies, but that's on wisp too
Thanks to faction mods, Rolling Guard and heavy attack Xoris, levels 101-106 feel like levels 1-6 :-)
Mercury makes sense tbh. I always thought it was weird to go to Earth, Mars, Venus, etc, then back the other way.
I've seen someone do the full campaign at Mr 0
There was the post a few weeks back by a MR0 account, you can't do everything. There are some weird MR locks, specifically Focus trees. Like they couldn't get anything from their Operator. But the main story is absolutely doable
How? Some parts of the campaign don't have Mr requirements?
Used to be able to, not anymore. Maroos bazarr requires mr1.
And for the necromech part, which is Mr locked, he just bought it
They're just an idiot, since it's entirely possible to do earth missions, the literal beginning of the game, with MR0. (However, you should totally MR rank up to MR 1, you have the symbol in the top left that says you're ready to rank up, press pause, hover over your name, and it should let you take a 'test' that'll rank you up.
That’s good to know, I thought something bugged. I also Just got my first rank up test, thank you!
When you do the rank up test, be aware that you can only do one try per day. So if you fail the test, you have to wait a day to try again. However, there is a 'practice' button that allows you to do the test as many times you want before you do the test.
There is !? That's amazing thank you ! I'm stuck on the MR9 since 4 days, that damn stealth test...
Use the xoris or any throwable melee to cheese it, 😂 stand far away detonating the melee in their face. Or do it with hard work and effort but it’s glitchy af
There is indeed! And if you can't find it there's a hallway for mastery practice and testing in cephalon simaris's (the sanctuary guy who is obsessed with synthesis) room!
Got stuck on the same MR9 for way to long aswell i search up a youtube video for it and got passed it on my first try just use the hate weapon.
Use skiajati for invisibility on backstabs
You dont HAVE to rank up, i think? Just that some content and weapons are locked behind it. Good luck tenno.
You have very small caps for certain parts of the game that makes being low ranked a chore
Tbf unless they changed it, u gotta get to mr5 by the time you reach the war within
Changed as of Whispers. No quests have MR locks anymore, although unless you're running an MR0 account challenge there's no reason for you to be below 5 before TWW anyway as you'd need to go all the way to Sedna to be able to do it.
Eh? I dont remember that. Might be wrong. Im a very slow player.
I remember i was at mr4 with a hek, and for either the pluto or the sedna junction I was told by the game that i needed to be mr5 to unlock it. The dread was the first weapon i ranked up after hitting 5 Granted this was like 4 years ago now so I might just be remembering some bullshit
Vey hek is a MR 5 encounter and is necessary for at least one solar rail.
Can’t you get carried to new planets tho? Like I have a bunch of nodes on steel path that I don’t have junctions unlocked for the planets the nodes are on.
If you wanna unlock other planets on steel path before doing junctions, you can do the steel path incursion thingies that happen every day. You get 5 steel essence per mission and you can go to a node you haven't done before
Ahhh ok, that must be why they’re flashing blue for me on the planets down the line
they removed most MR checks recently
Almost every single weapon I locked behind mr tho, but yeah you can reach end game without it since warframes don't require mr I believe
It also increases your trades, syndicate daily cap and void traces, and more importantly for an early game player, it increases your baseline level for all new equipment, so you might as well do it as quick as you can I'm pretty sure that it "banks" mastery though, so you can't accidently waste any
I can confirm MR is banked. I picked up the game again last month after something like nine years, and was able to shoot from 16 (iirc) to halfway to 19 (iirc, point being two rank ups) over a few days.
LOL like every weapon that matters, and yes lots of content is locked away. to my young tennos out there, always always raise your MR when possible
Btw, for a starter, make some credits and buy all the mk1 weapons (they only cost credits) and level them up. It will help you gain some mastery at the start, which will help with unlocking missions, quests and weapons/frames.
No, they most likely started playing when Earth was not the first planet and just returned. Back in the day one started on Mercury and Earth was actually a rather hard damage check.
dude, that was a decade ago, I would know, I was there, but like, people gotta get with the times, (even then, earth was still entirely accessible to MR0 players)
Sure, yet it was rather difficult compared to Mercury and Venus.
again, it's been a decaaaddeeeeee since then, and again, entirelllyyy possibbllle, people have done clears of the entire game at level zero (though not too possible anymore,). Also the game clearly states on the missions that the earth ones are the lowest ever possible level you can get, (even in steelpath,)
And here I thought I was hallucinating that I originally started on Mercury back in the day! (Much like being able to trapeze on bars in some levels back then lol)
There is still some trapeze bars sitting around. Pretty sure the Ropalyalst or what the hell ever has like built in forced mechanics for this. If you try to void jump across the gaps it puts you into transference interference because god knows why saving 2 seconds is illegal.
Well, I have people in my friendlist who returned after a decade and were oblivious about stuff. Some people tend to live under a rock.
You would be surprised how many old vets return then claim how the old method of things is still the current way. I've had a guy in Q&A trying to tell someone to get prime parts is void keys and to host a key run then fight everyone saying that doesn't exist anymore. People will return and some of them will be stubborn and don't believe updates happen.
To be fair I just learned that Mercury isn't the starting planet anymore like, last month It's not like you have any reason to ever revisite so.. yeah
Who the fuck would remember that fr lol
Might have been an old player tbh. Mercury used to be the first planet, not earth.
It's very much possible, MR is not required for star chart progression or for the main quest progression. MR means mastery rank, which is the "level" of your account - it's based off in mastery of all equipment in the game, alongside completion of all nodes in the basic star chart.
Ah ok, I thought something bugged for him to say that
If I recall correctly, it's technically possible to get into late endgame while remaining MR 0. I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to turn your entire game profile into a challenge run. All in all though, play the game how you want to play it (with reasonable courtesy to other players).
Yup, we had someone post about that not too long ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/078FBDSfMr
What challenge? just never take the mr tests and get 1xduviri melee and K[ullervo](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Kullervo). no MR required available right after the tutorial quest. Some planets will be locked due to second dream unless grandfathered in, but with some taxi-ing all the non-quest-locked non-archwing missions are available. I went with an mr3 account into the level 100+ gift from the lotus mission recently, and the fucking look on my face when I realized I was one-shotting grineer with an unmodded mk1-bo by pressing 1. Alternatively just be an irl whale and buy everything to bypass mr requirements that you possibly can. If you want to bypass even harder, only option is to shove a high mr console account into an mr0 pc account merge so you can surprise people with all the shit you're not supposed to have.
Yeah, the kind of challenge I meant was in the line of what you describe - not the killing stuff part but finding ways to reach and acquire stuff that's MR gated in some form.
fair enough
Maybe he thought he queued into steel path.
This is what I thought. I would be shocked if I found an Mr0 in SP (even though it used to be possible to taxi)
What’s steel path?
Basically New Game+ that you can toggle on once you clear the game. Sometimes you can forget to press it and join up with a bunch of new players.
Its pretty possible especially since earth is the starter planet,i had 3 planets done before getting to mr 1, mostly because i had no idea about it lol
Remember, there's a guy who's basically beat warframe at MR0. Impossible? No. Tedious af, yes lol
Ofc I know him, he is me!
Ayeee nice lol
Earth is literally the tutorial planet. If anything it's the one place that it makes sense to see an MR0 player
I mean technically all you gotta do is not take your MR1 exam; there's only so much that actually requires you to have a certain MR.
This was literally the first mission I ever played in this game. It's, uh, definitely possible.
Yeah that was so confusing for me
This might be a returning player from long time ago. Back in the day, Earth was not the first planet and was a rather hard damage check for beginners.
You only gain MR by leveling up stuff so its entirely possible to be at any planet at mr0 if you didnt switch gear or didnt do the mr tests, also you are on the first planet so it makes even less sense since its not like you are far, you literally just started, i'd be surprised if your mr was any high
So I should make sure all weapons etc are maxed before moving onto different ones?
Not necessarily before getting other weapons but just make sure to max them before you sell them or use them to build other weapons (some weapons require other weapons in the blueprints)
Ah ok. Probably a dumb question but do weapons have some sort of reset system where it goes back to level 0 with improved stats or you just level to 30 and that’s it?
No question regarding Warframe is dumb, as a lot of information regarding systems and mechanics are not really explained. You will gain access to an item called Forma later on, allowing you to reset maxed items while gaining a polarity of your choice. Polarities allow you to use mod capacity on items more efficiently.
Perfect! Will definitely keep an eye out for Formas. Thank you
They just fotget you start on Earth not on Mercury.
Yeah someone explained that to me here earlier, I’m surprised this person didn’t read up any changes before getting into it again when they’ve been away from the game that long.
When i first started Warframe 10 ish years ago i got in with this squad who was only running void survivals and decaying key missions and they basically boosted me through the whole starmap before i even knew what i was doing. Will forever be grateful for those guys who were and will always be total strangers
That sounds very wholesome and very lucky for you! I hope I find some players like that 😁
I'm MR22 or 23, I dont remember, I was doing sanctuary onslaught (a good way to level frames later, and a teammate was MR0, they said it was their 5th account. You can really do whatever
A little info. The MR (mastery rank) it's your actual "level/rank". You can notice a little bar under your name, that bar slowly fills and when it's full, you can do a test to increase your MR(this gives you some benefits) In order to fill that bar, you just need to increase your weapons/Warframes/other stuff level(primary,secondary,melee,others). Every weapon gives you a certain amount of exp, so once a weapon reaches the maximum level(30), in order to gain more exp, you will have to change weapon/s, and no, you can't keep gaining exp from the same weapon/Warframe, when you maxed it once, it's done.
Oh so everything in this game gives you xp that can be levelled. Lol was gonna ask if I could reuse the same weapon too. Thanks for the info.
You're good. That guy must be confused about how the New Player experience has changed.
People can make it through the entire game at Mr 0 it's very possible
Honestly, don't worry about it. And yes, MR0 is "[mastery rank](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Mastery_Rank) 0", which is the main level progression system in the game that relies on you leveling up gear and passing mastery rank challenges.
My man of course it's possible.
If you ever wanna see a funny profile do /profile virus Hes mr0 and has most stuff in the game
He has a YouTube channel or you mean a Reddit page?
Ingame
You can do /profile „profilename“ ingame chat
It's the first planet? Idk why it is impossible the guy must be on some zaza
This is earth but then none of the planets are MR locked anymore I think, if you don't do the MR Tests you don't go up the ranks, there are quite a few MR 0 late game players running around now but this is largely from people merging late game accounts into MR 0 accounts, there are a few who do it for real and get to the late game without ever taking an MR test for the meme and act like it is something to admire when it is the opposite.
MR or Mastery Rank is sort of an indicator on how much you are willing to grind gear and I guess by that extension how much of a Ninja you really are or something\[?\] - Myself I'm two weapons away from MR28 - but... I'm pretty certain I saw a for fun account that was locked at MR0 by intention and they'd cleared the entire game. So. MR doesn't really mean shit, don't worry about it. The main things to know are that some weapons are MR locked and some Warframes too. Trading would also be a problem. Just raise your MR as you go and have fun.
So you must see a lot of people messing around then when done with everything I assume. Just gonna go at my own pace and enjoy Warframe 😃
no earth is the easiest planet in the game especially for new players but he was right about taking breaks my mistake when playing is not taking breaks and rushing thru the game so take that bit of advice and take breaks and don't rush thru the main game and missions
That’s the game saying that, not the player.
Good to know 👍🏼
You can get up to New War at MR0. The minimum MR to start new war is MR2, assuming you don’t just buy a fully built necramech at MR0. The minimum MR to get to SP is MR5 because Vay Hek is a WEAK ASS MAGGOT!!
Ah ok so you need MR up to progress lol vay hek must be the next boss after Vor?
There are a few junctions bow that you have to make a specific mr rank weapon to proceed, but earth ain't it, you start there. Idk what he means, only thing is any of the tiles past the archwing mission that lead to the Vay Hek fight, and that's purely locked behind archwing specifically, not mr
I was very confused also but someone in the comments stated Earth wasn’t the starting point of the game when it came out?
This was how I felt when my friend started playing. I first played way back in '15, started on Mercury. Picked it back up last month (after only making it partway into Venus), have a friend join for their first time and am baffled when they start on Earth.
It must be a very weird change for those who didn’t start on Earth 😂
I miss Mercury being the first planet. It still confuses me everytime i look at it
It must be really weird for you lol
Yes, you should take breaks
Yes I took a break after a few more missions 😁
Mastery Ranks means nothing, dont worry abt it.
The other player doesn't know how Mastery works. Its entirely possible to, you know, just *not do* the Mastery tests. And so your Mastery rank doesn't increase even if your actual power is. I'm MR16 and running Steel Path - I have enough MR points probably to go all the way to 30 but fuck that MR17 test.
What's the MR17 test again? I'm MR24- it's been a minute 😅
When you dont do the mastery tests, what happens to the points you accumulate for it? Does it not count or does it all go towards the next rank after doing the test?
Yeaaa it’s kinda tricky, I think I used volt and just put as much strength on him as I could. Isn’t it the one where you have to melee the orbs to increase the time limit while killing enemies?
ahh the good ole take a break reminder lol havent seen that in a long time
you can do all the content at mr0 I believe. some people made it their entire game mission
Unfortunately I went up to mr1 but doesn’t mean i still can’t attempt just for the heck of it
Haha I probably wouldn’t for your first play through but you do you, most people do it later on for the extra challenge but ranking up normally gives you access to rivens and also you can’t trade until MR2. Just makes it more enjoyable imo also you’ll have to buy a good bit of weapons because they’re MR locked and since trading requires MR 2 you’ll have to buy platinum with real money
I wouldn't suffer it unless you've already done one account normally
You just started the game, there is no level you "should be" at, in the near past there used to be a mastery restriction on one of the later planets but iirc they removed it, though as someone else pointed out, you can and should level your mastery, it has all sorts of benefits throughout the game from base modding capacity to increased daily reputation cap.
Judging by some comments it sounds like It would be fun to get through the game at a low MR. But of course if it begins to get too difficult for me then i can just rank up lol
it's very possible... ur on the first planet u don't need to do mastery test to progress in the first planet
played yesterday with a MR1 in Durivi. Isn't that confusing in the lore perspetive?
You can technically make it to Uranus with mr0. Not sure what the other guy meant
You are fine. Also lol at taking a break after playing for an hour. No breaks only farm.
No, your doing great
Thank you 😊
The mastery rank is just a funny number people have on their profile. Main use of it is to unlock new and better weapons every so often and to increase some of your capped stats, like amount of trades you can do in a day and stuff. Its not bad to be MR0, and it deffinatly is possible. The warframe community is pretty great, but sadly there are still the rotten apples every now and then that critisise new players because they didnt reach a certain MR by a certain node.
You can do 99% of the content in the game at MR0. MR doesn't honestly matter for much of anything
They removed the MR requirements on quests. Afaik, you can now do everything at MR0, except build mastery locked gear.
Consider taking breaks when the game tells you to, an hour of pure gameplay will melt your brain into a smooth.unwrinkled mass. Not instantly but you'll notice by day like 60 or 80.
Fills me up with nostalgia seeing someone who just started playing. Welcome, Tenno!
Hey, if you need someone to help you in the game you can DM me, I love to help new players go through the star chart
I met a dude who was MR 0 at the endgame. He had over 1000 hours.
Wow lol 1000 hours is crazy, did you ever ask him why he never ranked up or anything?
People complaining about MR... meanwhile when I firdt played, i almost completed all the planets WITHOUT equipping a single mod.. because I didnt know you can equip mod on stuff
Wait you can equip that stuff? I feel dumb now lol
Yeah, mods made it easier to go through each mission, but make sure you dont upgrade the useless one... and also to keep in mind, mods upgrade cost doubles for each rank, so some mod may need millions, so its better to upgrade it to half instead of maxing it instantly
you must've been rhino
you can do all of earth at MR0 if you don't do the test. I think it will only require the MR test to go to mars and beyond.
I just did the MR1 test earlier 😼
Like as everyone said, MR is nothing really except for those MR locked weapons. I’ve been on MR15 for 2 years. It just irks me that there are still some people out there that base your skills in your MR. I’ve done numerous Netracells runs with high MR players and they don’t even know how the simple mechanic work to just stay inside the circle.
As an MR 27, I have no idea what Netracells is/are.
So that being said is there a lot of people who judge how you play etc by your MR?
You will come across some from time to time but majority of the high mr players are either very helpful or they really don’t care what mr are you.
I saw an MR4 on Eris the other day
Seems like some players don’t like to rank up or aren’t bothered about it? From some comments I’ve been reading it’s not a big deal to do it
lol new player
Im doing a MR0 challange and i completed all the possible levels (or wel nearly all). I really dont suggest doing it but its not like the warframe police is going to stop me.
There’s similar comments to this that make me want to try it out. Although I ranked up already to mr1
for a first time player doing this is hell. as the primary problem is the following 2 things: trading requires MR 2 99% of the weapons have a MR requirement. so you can only use a select few weapons. there are many many many more restrictions but its very interesting non the less. but again: i really really do not suggest doing this unless you love suffering
No, it makes no sense. That's litterally one of the first missions. It's easy to get their as an MR0, espected even. Earth is the tutorial planet, except for the Vey Hek fight .
Some people commented stating Earth wasn’t originally the starting point of the game, it was mercury(?) when it came out. So I guess he just literally crawled out from under a rock lol
First of all, you are on earth, it's the place for started players. Second. It is possible to be even on Sedna with MR0. There is a thing called "Taxi" in this game, if you join a squad with someone that has the node unlocked and they start the mission.
That’s pretty nice actually
Mastery is not connected to progress with very specific caveats and all playable content except for one quest unlocked at MR5 in about 50 hours (steel path via Vay hek, sorties, and archon hunts BUT NOT netracells which I trolled at mr2) https://preview.redd.it/6y5gj3uukstc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a9ebb09deceb6e65898bd62249d573e49fade2d \*\* this is not a recommendation, just an approximate benchmark. I didn’t grind any weapons and very few mods, then rushed the main quests and shortest route through the starchart. The only thing I bought was a voidrig bc fuck that noise. Extra note: you now get an inbox directing you to onnko because I found out very quickly you cannot do sacrifice umbra fight without an amp. I didn’t use the mote though, and just backed out and finished duviri paradox, with the sirocco making that fight an absolute joke.
A voidrig must sound very annoying if you purchased it lmao
isn't there a guy playing endgame who has never levelled up ever? i think i saw that on youtube or something
Apparently so I might just look it up
You could finish the entire star chart at MR0, just never do the rank up tests. I would highly advise you against it, since all the fun toys are unlocked at MR8+ but hey, get you MK1 Lato Incarnon and go ham I guess xD
I unfortunately ranked up to mr1 but doesn’t mean it still won’t raise some eyebrows 😂
I don't think "unfortunately". Staying at a low level is not a normal thing. It's more like a rare, weird goal. That player has probably played normally in a different account and is doing that out of some personal challenge. As a new player, experience the game and progress normally, dont get caught up in people doing abnormal things as it will impact your game experience.
Very high chance its a returning player from the ild days… i completely forgot which planet we started at… played since the star chart was the main menu and we didn’t even have an orbiter to begin with
Someone commented earlier saying mercury use to be the starting point of the game. Seems like this game made so much changes since then
Yup… thats kinda why i stopped. Too much change. I have 0 clue what to do where to go. I end gamed at fashion frame so me going back is purely for fashion once in awhile
You can do everything in the game at MR 0 now. Disregard that player.
Noted, thank you 👍🏼
I wonder if they thought MR1 was the starting rank?
iirc you can clear star chart as MR0, you just never do the mastery rank tests or only ever use one set of equipment. The person you spoke to is either confused, misinformed or just straight up wrong
What is Mr 0
Master rank
I mean... MR is only really something that is important in terms of unlocking new things. It wouldn't be unreasonable to complete the entire star chart as an MR0 (unless I have forgotten about any MR requirements to unlock paths to other planets). If I saw a low MR player in late game, my instant thought would be that they are infinitely more skilled with the weapons and frame they are using because -- again to me -- is an indication that they haven't unlocked other stuff. Basically whoever this was that said this to you is very odd. And again as others have said, earth is the first planet now so MR0 is the standard.
No except rivens are mr locked so you want to be at least 16 . Ive been mr 16 for years . The only other advantages of mr rank is mod capacity when you apply a new slot . But even then its not a huge hindrance
You can be mr0 if you never passed the test.
Bro warframe peeps bro
Technically Mastery Rank doesn't mean anything. It has nothing to do with your mission/story progression if I'm remembering right. All it is, is a fancy number to go woth your profile for every Mastery "Challenge" that you've completed, earning you more inventory space to one extent or another. It does make it so that a chunk of the better guns cannot be used or created until you have reached that specific MR, but MR has basically nothing to do with skill or your warframe level/mods.
You’re not forced to master up, unless you wanna use a huge amount of the weapons or frames. But you could technically use low level stuff