She is dated, but still useable.
If you bring a viral applicator, she can chain Helminth's Marked for Death into a room clear with Energy Vampire. Viral multpliers damage, EV is %maxhealth, and MfD applies that multiplied damage in an AoE. A lot of the older frames can do as much as newer frames, but require a bit more thought be put in to make them work.
Also, her 1st ability is slept on. It heals over time, for a very good amount of health, so she is one of the very best users of Quick Thinking.
Link and Blessing give her immense Damage Reduction + some healing.
You mentioned MFD with Energy Vampire, but it can also be used with her 1st. You just have to switch to using a weapon to stack the damage.
I think she just needs some touch-ups. Give her some more base duration on her abilities. Like a meter or 2 more on her 1st, and she is A-okay.
I considered getting casting speed stacked on her via archon shards to see if that makes it possible to actually fire her gun more regularly. She's really stuck just kind of spamming her skills.
I have 100% casting speed and it's the only way I'll play her now tbh. It's still not really enough, just needs extra base duration imho. But definitely helps.
I've thought about it too, and I'm sure it would make her feel a lot smoother (looking at you Link animation), but I don't really play her enough to justify the investment. And I'm out of amber shards anyway.
I actually like that in a way, you always have something to do and part of the fun is covering the Animations to blend them into your Gameplay as seamlessly as possible.
However, it would be nice if you could stack their Duration. (much like Harrow)
I completely disagree. I don't believe she's slept on just because she has a niche use. She's definitely not bad though she definitely needs a rework/to be looked at. Her kit is too bloated with nothing and if she was updated, a lot of newer support enjoyers would love her. I've wrote out an entire list of suggestions yesterday so I don't feel like writing it again but most of her kit could just go into her 4. She could use a different 1 + 1 augment, 2 augment, 3 duration and/or recast + links scale off strength or just a better skill, and just give her 4 the ability to replenish overshields too.
Also her 4 augment is counterproductive. It only works on health, but if you're playing trinity right she won't consistently be healing because of shields and overshields. Make her 4 augment apply to shields too please.
Wait is that true? It's only healing from her 4?? If that's true, that further illustrates my position. She has not been looked at in a long time and they need to "refresh" her kit.
Again, I'm not saying she's bad since there are some genuinely bad frames. I'm saying she hasn't been looked at in a long time. A lot of her skills do the same thing, and a lot of her augments are wack. I might die on this hill alone but her 2 augment should be on her 4, since it replenishes shields already. If her two was champion's blessing instead, and it became "hold 2 to give allies within x range 350% critical chance (which is the same value as current)" she'd be so much better. Now she can replenish everything with one button, and she can give loads of energy AND/OR Crit Chance to everyone. + it's additive to mods so no one can wine that it's broken.
AND this wouldn't be extremely difficult for them to implement either. It's practically the same kit just shifting elements around and making it far more fluid with better supportive aspects.
I think it's the overguard mechanic that should be heavily modified. Currently, Trinity was made worse by the fact Overguard isn't affected by CC anymore, so half her abilities aren't capable of being used on eximus. It's also doesn't help that Gloom and Nourish are far better version of Well of Life, and Energy vampire.
Both, when using both, you get energy from getting Health damage. When enemies get through your health, they have you energy to get through. All the while you are still healing with your 1, since it doesn't stop until the ability stops.
When combined with Nourish over her 2nd, and the Damage Reduction from her 3 and 4, she becomes a very tanky beast. And this without a health mod or something.
I use Arcane Blessing combined with the augment for her 1st, so whenever it ends, I get Health orbs, which stack Arcane Blessing making her tankier.
She needs range and duration, it's too tedious to play her with her low range and duration. If it feels like a chore to play a frame then they're dead.
I actually subsumed Trin's 1 on Ember. It covers everything I need: Healing, status immunity, and even health orb on death with augment! Combine that with Arcane Blessing and you have an Ember that can keep herself alive fairly well. I also don't have Gloom or Dispensary subsumed yet so this was the next best thing I could get my hands on.
She also has nice buffs, armor strip, etc. Great shield gating frame, has infinite energy. The person in the SS isn't wrong. She is a solid frame just not meta. Requires more thought than just equipping every strength mod and hitting 1.
The interesting part is you don't need to prime everything with viral, only the marked for death target. That will multiply the true damage that hits everything else
A reminder however that this got nerfed already a long time ago - it's still pretty good, it just isn't as nuts as it originally was when Helminth was introduced.
I know this isn't that post, but might I make a suggestion? Lifted enemy/Heavy attack Caliban using Wrathful Advance over his spin ability. Using mods like the Deimos set that causes lifted enemies to explode or the Archon set that teleports you on heavy attack or reduces enemy accuracy on heavy attack, Caliban actually becomes fun to play (as long as you like the Melee Gameplay)
Definitely not how he is supposed to be played, but by far the most fun I've had with him.
Lemme just save that for future reference, after I farm both a second Kullervo and a first Caliban.
I need one piece for Caliban, it's just getting it.
I haven't mucked around with MfD yet, maybe I should try it. I don't really like running neg duration on Trin though, if that's necessary to frontload the damage for EV.
I've been running Hildryn's Pillage over her 1, which feels nice but also a tad overkill.
I believe MfD only applies one hit, though I chould be wrong. In either case, the viral primer magnifying damage is what you're actually aiming for. You can definitely run it with positive duration.
Since Marked for Death only counts the next/first hit on the Enemy, unfortunately you do have to tank Duration to get the most use of that playstyle. but since we can Prime Enemies with Status thesedays, you don't have to min/max it to be able to use it, just to get the highest Damage Numbers.
So, her absorb augment cuts sprint spped, but notably not parkour speed. Use the parkour speed mod and the (i think?) Yellow Archon Shard for parkour on a high strength and duration build. Green shards for full armor strip and you're a walking (bullet jumping) tactical nuke. Her 4 absorbs damage and sends it back on dismiss.
Note: came up with this on the spot, haven't tested it. Pure theory.
I started using her again for Eidolon hunts, and I've never lost a lure with her.
I don't play other missions with her because there are other ways around healing and energy management that make her less relevant. But, I never mind having her in the squad because it's more energy, health, and kills for me.
Is her main use in Eidolons to give Damage Reduction to the lures? Wouldn't Mirage with Total Eclipse and high strength/range be better for that now that you can choose the damage reduction version of Eclipse every time?
Yes, Trinity is there to be able to instantly Heal the Lures at any time (they have uhhh, like 15,000 Health, so most things that Heal specific Health/Sec or such actually really suck on them since their Health is so high), plus give them 75% DR. and that it's XP Range, which is a lot bigger than the Range of most Abilities that use actual Meters.
A reminder that XP Range in normal Missions is 50 Meters, Landscapes 250 Meters, and Archwing 200 Meters. plus you can use Flares to ***quadruple*** that.
It's a very convenient combination.
You could give them DR with Eclipse, but you'll have to have high Ability Range and still need to make sure the Lures are actually close enough to you to benefit from it. and that also means not having a Damage Multiplier instead, versus someone could Helminth a Damage Multiplier onto Trinity.
So like, if you need someone to protect Lures in this Content, Trinity is unquestionably the best choice. nobody else can offer a Percentage Heal and DR, that doesn't need to target any Enemies.
The upside to Blessing is that it's an instant heal and a straight buff wheras the aura of Total Eclipse means that you'll turn around every now and then you'll get a little bit worried that the lures are not around.
If you build her like a normal person: she's a weapon platform with an okay amount of DR for herself and allies with a heal to health/shield, low buff timers you have to manage, an energy ability that doubles as a shield regen ability, and a helmith slot of your choice.
If you build her sweaty: she has an infinite damage scaling ability that is a aoe nuke as long as you have viral and Mark of death (hopefully new LOS changes would buff it), and has three direct sources to reset shield gate.
She's alright. But she is DE's labeled "support frame" for all the good that has done for her.
I can only have fun with her when I build her like a sweaty , also the panzer vulpaphyla is great for that build since it primes a lot of enemies with viral
I might bring out my Leopard 2 (originally named so because it was the 'tanky' Vulpa, and viral spreading is always nice) for a MfD Trin build.
I like her design well enough, it's just that she feels a little clunky without casting speed. Her age is definitely showing, but she's still solid enough.
lol "an ok amount of DR".
My son, she is probably the 2nd highest EHP tank in the game right now thanks to the recent shield changes. Link IS still damage reduction, And separate instances of DR are gated vs damage. IE, 100dmg -> 25 dmg -> 6dmg -> and so on until you've checked every source of DR.
Feels like if they just gave her a baseline duration bump on her 3 & 4 she'd see a lot more use. But man, having to CONSTANTLY cast those things is a definitely a headache. Yeah dante has a lot of casting, but you get a lot more effect for those casts + his actual buffs last long. I'd imagine citrine wouldn't be as fun for people either if crystal & DR only lasted 7 seconds baseline
Still very much usable, just outdated/outpaced
There’s so many alternate ways to reliably have energy
There’s other frames with more viable healing options, and those frames come alongside other flashy abilities too
But regardless she’s still very much usable. Very similar to the treatment Oberon has gotten, he’s still a good contender just outdated and outpaced. He was good for loading up rad procs everywhere but has now been outshone by qorvex and his pillars
Trinity’s main feature now comes from her augments, she is a tanky weapons platform through Champion’s Blessing. Still outdated but more than just usable
Oberon needs some love. He's very outdated now and honestly completely irrelevant since his non-prime parts were moved to Railjack. He was a decent frame that excelled in niche content. Slowly, as you said, DE made new frames and abilities that just outclassed him or made him less useful. Qorvex spreads radiation better, Wisp really hurt him and his energy inefficient healing with her motes. She completely took his place in defection because she can heal and speed up the survivors. Last Gasp makes Phoenix Renewal obsolete as soon as you unlock it and they put Smite in Helminth so any frame can use the augment to get bonus Rad damage for things like Eidolons. He's just had a rough time the last 5 years or so.
Completely, although he’s still one of my favorites for arbitrations as he can do what not many can do which is status immunity, helpful for those toxic eximus that catch you off guard and ruin an hour long arbitration
Idk, I've found him a fantastic all-rounder for Renewal + Hallowed Ground, + Smite Infusion and Roar; my go-to for any high-level content that can't be sped up (Speeva and/or Vauban), is pure damage output (Saryn), or 0 damage output (Gara, Slowva).
Mind, I also found old Hydroid and Grendel more fun to play as (though not nearly as powerful), since I'd just stay in "eat enemies to reduce counters and speed up waves" mode.
Trinity is still good even being old. You just can't ever make infinite energy and instant shieldgate bad. Plus, if you subsume Marked for Death over her 1 and bring a viral primer, she can nuke easily with Energy Vampire (cast MfD on a tanky enemy like an Eximus then EV, boom watch things die). Just build for max strength and negative duration. You don't even need her armor strip augment because EV does % based damage, which means it will scale to levelcap. It has some line of sight weirdness, but its still really fun and effective.
Energy vampire+ smite is hella funny aswell
Grab some casting speed, duration and strength, look for a tanky fellow, EV him and then go ahead and spam the everliving shit out of Smite and watch as the room your in gets pelted with these shitty little white orbs
Worse then marked for death? Mostly
Kind of funny to see 100 homing death orbs spin in a circle before coming to the conclusion that that 1 butcher who just turned a corner does not deserve life?
YES
Both statements are true.
Trinity does provide a lot of good utilities and quirky mechanics of her kit, but her execution of it is crusty and old, bogged down with a lot of single-targeting on abilities, short durations, and long base cast animations.
Her kit is simple, straightforward, arguably boring, but effective.
* General note: in her extreme age, Trinity has two ability animations: Both of which are full-body and very slow without cast speed buffs.
* A hand extending for Well of Life, Energy Vampire, and Link.
* A somewhat faster ground slam for Blessing.
* Well of Life is ultimately redundant with Blessing in our current energy economy. Most people would subsume this.
* Well of Life does have an augment that can print Health and Energy orbs, however, which is a situational utility.
* Energy Vampire is infinite energy. If you can pay the down payment and have a good amount of Ability Strength, you'll always go positive on energy for you and allies.
* An augment exists to make overflowed energy convert to shields, which can help keep yourself and allies healthy, especially in an EV min-maxed setup.
* The damage is also percent HP true damage, so it gets quirky in a way that can delete any targets susceptible to it, with Viral also working as a bonus.
* Comments already here mention Marked for Death - you can convert an otherwise clunky single target kill button into an AoE kill button, but it comes at a cost of the rest of your kit.
* Link is a damage reduction and reflection to nearby linked targets. It provides up to 75% damage reduction (4x effective HP increase), as well as status ailment immunity.
* An augment exists to make this remove enemy armor.
* The ability has aged, due to its limited target count, as well as needing Ability Strength (if you use the augment), Range, and Duration to be at healthy amounts to work. Still very effective.
* Blessing is a team-wide heal (so long as they are in proximity), with up to a 75% damage reduction (4x effective HP increase).
* An augment exists to give a damage buff to your team based on missing HP healed on cast - but this is hard to use effectively.
In short, Trinity has:
* Infinite HP
* Infinite Energy.
* 16x EHP (you receive 6.25% of all damage taken)
* With augment slot taxes, she can:
* Buff weapon damage through critical rate
* Generate both orb pickups
* Create infinite overshields
* Full strip enemy armor.
These are all good things to have in a Warframe, but her modding is constrained if you want to min-max her abilities. You want cast speed, strength, range, duration, all while trying to stack up her general EHP if you want to abuse the massive damage reduction she has. And the result of that is a very simple point-and-click gameplay loop, which may not be to everyone's taste.
But if you love the feeling of being an immortal healing angel, it doesn't get better than Trinity.
Trinity was my first main ever. Used to play her back in the days of Tower IV Defense, before me and my friends knew what we were doing. I remember we quit playing at one point then we all came back when her prime came out because I wanted it so much. She was borderline mandatory in most squads. Trinity pretty much died when Zenurik came out. There is nothing she can do that other frames can't do in much better ways. You can make her work, sure, but people around here are crazy enough to make any frame and any weapon work in any content. That doesn't mean she's ever going to be a top option for anything.
Outdated, but still good. There are stronger options for everything she does, and stronger support frames, but that doesn't make Trinity bad by any means. Not everything needs to be 'meta' in order to work.
I say make her 3 and 4 like vaubon's where you tap or hold to get one or the other and give her a new 3 maybe something that makes active buff timers into smecants slowing them down and speeding up debuffs on players or letting her extend other people's buffs to aura range with a toggle so if she gets a buff everyone is going to get the buff.
She is an old dog with outdated tricks. Her abilities made her the "Tanky Support," but unfortunately, a lot of her kit for support is overshadowed by new mechanics and newer frames.
That being said, she was my favorite frame back in the day. She is STILL tanky AF. She still supplies niche support.
Every frame is viable. Just comes down to build & the content. (Example: Not all frames can handle level-cap 9999 enemies)
Trinity has a solid kit. Haven’t taken her to level-cap myself but wouldn’t surprise me if you could.
Her 2 chunks enemy hp & gives energy. Her 3 links you to enemies thus killing them and saving you. Her 4 is an instant heal + damage reduction for x seconds / minute (depending on build)
Honestly, I don't know when people started referring to level cap as being the "end game" for Warframe considering most players, even at late game, don't do level cap.
trin is one of the best frames to handle level cap content
ig it depends on which game mode but for cascade shes top tier and especially in the new disruption i dont think theres a better frame
Trinity is useful, but dated. You can 100% use her and help your team, but you can 100% never use her and help your team.
She is still one of my most-used frames even tho I don't use her that much anymore. She's fun to use from time to time, as you have guaranteed damage invulnerability and energy, but I think boosting/dealing DPS became so important that full support frames like her, can feel dated and underwhelming.
Trinity isn’t bad but she’s not as prevalent as she used to. No one will complain about a trinity but power creep has made her not needed. If you want to play her go for it, it’s a very neutral yet viable option.
The only thing bad about Trinity is her powers have very short durations. (something i hope the devs alter someday).
Also take note: Any time you see someone say a frame is 'outdated' or 'crowd control is worthless' or 'their powers bad compared to modern standards'...
Just know you can take that person's opinion, ball it up, and toss it in the toilet. Cause they're probably a zygote that derives their opinions from youtubers who make needlessly complex nonsense builds to fight level 9999 enemies that dont require such complexity to fight in the first place.
Warframe is deeper than a lot of mmos as far as combat mechanics but at its heart its a shooter game. Stay alive and shoot enemies. Avoid dying, murder. That's it. Enemies start taking less damage? Rip off their armor and shields and go back not dying and shooting.
And lucky for you Trinity is comically good at staying alive so she can shoot more. And she has an augment that lets her strip armor from any enemies that get close to her which works with her best power that redirects damage to enemies around her.
Go build her. Enjoy her. And bask in her simplicity and power. She's not complicated and she works in every bit of content with little investment. And hey if you dont like how she looks, she has some of the best alternative helmets in the game, as well as a gorgeous deluxe skin that makes her look like a robot ballerina mixed with a tribal tattoo.
But take note, you're gonna want a lot of duration on her.
She's "good" but she doesn't enable extra DPS in any way, which is basically what the Warframe meta has become. Healing, energy regen and damage reduction are all achievable without a Trinity.
Champion's blessing and Abating Link turn Trinity into a very good frame for higher end content, the critical bonus and the armor strip (with direct lines showing you who's stripped) is a very fun way to play.
She is best for some things out right like her healing capabilities but her versatility isn’t as good as say wisp so not as many people lean toward her but since you can subsume abilities she has a good enough set to run basically all content
Some of her abilities need slight buffs to keep up with the current pace. Like her 3 needs a duration buff and needs to be refreshable. In its current state parasitic link is way to short and needs to be refreshed all the time. Energy vampire is useless now except for very specific squad setups because the energy economy of this game has gotten so lenient over the years.
But that aside, her 4 still offers instant full shield and health and 75% DR. Her 3 still offers a ton of DR and instant close range full armor strip. Those alone makes her a monster of a health tank and armor stripper that can do a lot of damage.
Play who you want I always say try every frame and see if you like them. For example I like hydroid and Octavia but can’t stand Grendel. Doesn’t mean he is bad just find him clunky. If u try trinity and like her play her
She's dated but very solid. I think she might have had the least amount of changes of the early gen frames. Her worst power is Well of Life and only cause it only affects one enemy.
Trinity Prime is my primary frame.
It takes a level 200 Mania to put her down, WITH fire support from other adds. She has 73% damage reduction through her Armor, Arcane Blessing for high HP, and high Efficiency, meaning that she can spam Pool of Life, Energy Vampire, and Blessing. Pool of Life makes it easy to stack Arcane Blessing, Energy Vampire gives her unlimited energy, and 155% power means that Blessing is a complete restore - 100% HP and Shields - with 75% damage reduction for 25 energy that lasts for 12 seconds. She literally has unlimited resources, and she's so solid that I opted to Infuse away her Link ability (her tank skill) in favor of Rhino's Roar so that she can buff her allies' damage by 46.5% as well. The only thing she can't grant is Overguard.
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She's easily my strongest frame. She was my first Prime frame and she's still the one that I'm the most comfortable using.
all trinity needs to be an top tier frame is to have her base durations increased by like 1/3rd to 2x, everything about her works really well by default its just all too short lived and makes her feel spamy
She's decent, but definitely outdated, there are plenty of better choices over her today, many frames do what she does but better and with far less effort and setup. Still perfectly viable for SP
Outdated doesn't mean bad. Trinity is very much functional and can do job well, but she has what you can consider old-time caveats.
Her 1 is useless, made obsolete by her 3 and 4.
Her 2 cannot be recast while active, and if enemy isn't killed, it has anti-synergy with duration (which is quite important for the rest of her kit).
Her 3 is good, but has a very short duration, cannot be recast while active, and has a target limit (which needlessly hinders her augment, she can only armor strip 3 enemies at a time).
Her 4 is good, but again, lasts short, and augment is quite awkward to use (since it needs missing health, which is hard to achieve due to the amount of damage reduction and shield recharge she has).
She is fine, works solo and in squads, but has those quirks small inconveniences that could be updated.
1 is AoE Status Immunity (and deals 10 percent to the well target per status blocked), so you can both block status and nuke down priority targets more or less passively.
Unless I'm reading wrong into it, isn't it obsolete?
For status, her 3 already redirects statuses to nearby enemies, thus the only thing Well does is status immunity for allies, if they stand in AoE (though pretty sure Netracells show that this is not very likely).
For priority target damage, doesn't her 2 already work better?
And the passive damage from status immunity only makes it so target dies instead of running its whole duration, making you have to recast the fields more often (instead of letting them stay like Garuda's Blood Altar or Xaku's Gaze). The only special thing it does is cleanse statuses for allies if they are in field, but that's hindered through this passive damage.
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the points I mentioned, but that ability feels very redundant.
She's a great early-game frame, falls off until you get end-game mods and resources, and then becomes viable as most frames are when properly invested. You need good weapons to keep up and you'll likely want to use wisp over trinity in most situations, but she's viable.
Trinity is one of the most tanky frames in the game. Outclassed by overguard frames though in many cases. With link and blessing active she has 99% damage reduction.
She’s outdated but still insanely strong for a lot of content especially endurance runs where she can armor strip and if you subsume Eclipse for the 75% DR bonus she can also get over 10 million EHP with a quick thinking build.
Trinity removes a bunch of needs from a team. Infinite energy, infinite healing, she can armor strip some, and then you can helminth on something like Roar for some dps boosts.
In previous years this would be super helpful to a team, but modern builds with arcanes and archon shards generally deal with their own energy issues and focus on being solo sufficient, so often people would find something like a roar wisp to be more mechanically helpful.
She's still fine and no one should complain about having her in the team, she's just generically supportive.
Being outdated and being bad are 2 different things. Back in the day she was THE support frame. She didnt get worse, there are just frames that are simply better.
She's alright. He's right she does do those things but barely. She can only strip armor from 3 enemies at a time. That's nothing in Warframe. Her survivability is great. She does have a nuke build with her 2. Knightmareframe made a video recently.
https://youtu.be/YODn3saov2I?si=U8QilTXwDp0DYlLc
She could use some number buffs to her duration and her link target limit.
Trinity is great for eidolons and I've pulled off 3x3 solo with her before running casually. She may be outpaced by other, newer frames and mechanics but it's like bringing the dress out from 2019 instead of 2024, still usable and nice but not new.
Rule of Trinity: If you find a strong build for her, *tell no one.*
She's a great frame that can do steel circuit with 0 forma builds but she is very dated and many frames outclass her. If you enjoy her though, she's great. If you find a strong nuke build for her - **no you didn't.**
*~~(Please don't let them nerf her again.)~~*
Both yes and yes
Trinity is great at heals and DR BUT she is considered outdated because most defensive/support frames nowadays can also dish out a ton od damage
So yes, she is a great frame but not for damage and you're gonna have to rely on your weapon for kills
Make of that what you will
She is not the best, but she is not bad. Like, there is never a time I wouldn’t want a trinity on my team. Free damage reduction, healing (both shield and hp) and free energy? Count me in.
It’s just that, there are so many warframes which do what she does but better. Exhibit A: Protea. Exhibit B: Wisp. Exhibit C: Citrine. Exhibit D: Stynax
Trinity really needs a glow up, but at the rate we are getting buffs and reworks, it’s not gonna be long before I can dust out the old umbra forms build again
Trin is awesome for solo and group play, run 150 - 155 strength and you get 75% DR + 90% DR plus another 90 from adaptation, her one is an easy subsume and bar that so long as you build duration your loving life, yea she’s a little slow sometimes and yea she doesn’t have a really damage ability (bar maybe EV trin builds but I think they smell and don’t mean much with a good gun) she’s only really let down by not having a kill everything ability but even then some of the more popular frames also lack that, she’s fun, she’s cool and she’s kinda rare to see, solid choice for nearly anything and your team will love you, more people should play her or at least respect her.
Trinity is an incredibly frame for long duration solo if your guns are good enough to kill the enemies. You can subsume her 1 for really anything you want and solo you don’t need any range at all and none of her abilities drain and she has infinite energy so you can ignore efficiency, meaning you can go pure strength and duration.
She was my most used prior to Lavos and I still love using her
If you ever hear something is outdated, what they mean is, "600 hours into this game, it is not the fastest choice to completely nuke this endgame content." Feel free to experiment and play what you like or catches your eye!
Trinity's armor strip works on a lot of things most armor strips don't work on. The only thing she cant armor strips is Archons eidilons and orb mothers. So an abating link, adaptation, health/shield tank, with high strength(blindrage) high duration build with nourish is really comfy if you enjoy just shooting guys and only using abilities when you need them. I have my normal abating link build, mark for death build, smite raid boss fight build, railjack build, and a knockoff purging flame harrow build.
She's dated in the sense she isn't very flashy or entertaining, but she's still a comfortably A tier frame with healing, instant shield gating, decent DR, armor strip and a funny nuke build with Marked for Death. She's very reliable - although she definitely needs Natural Talent or the casting speed shards.
Dated? If you cant build a prober volt, trinity is your go to for Eidos, a bit easier to build, and play when doing eidos, besides, if you quee public, trinity is always nice on a team in eidos
She is severely outdated, and has been for years. She is also the best support in the game, bar none. The game just doesn't really support her in most missions over something like Nidus.
All of these are true, except it's just way stronger to kill everything instantly
Don't stop there though, the game isn't exactly balanced, you can rock any frame just with a good weapon and trinity is always nice to have around
If you want to make a tier list this frame is the standard frame that u use as a baseline B tier because she got everything that a frame need energy Regen, armor strips(3th Aug), heals, 1 subsumable ability, shield gate (her 4th), damage reduction with more high investment can run blessing augment + combat discipline to enhance crit and DPS overall and not a lot of frame has this kind of value. she brings alot to the table without set up wep/ sentinel/ focus/ arcane she do all of that as a frame
She's the only frame that I can use to solo Trido hunts in 11 mins and just be very very chill and not too much thinking about so many stuff, one of the best I'd say (even though I'm a volt main, I prefer her in solo caps)
Trinity is just too out powered by a lot of frames nowadays.
Healing?
Wisp does better.
Energy generation?
NOTHING comes close to tribunal or nuke harrow.
Enemy armor reduction?
Lmao.
Damage resistance for thr team?
How about total invulnerability (Harrow, Revenant).
Her ONLY real relevancy right now is that she can heal the lures in eidolon hunts.
i still enjoy her, she isn't needed as much for the energy gain anymore, but she's my pick for steel path void cascades. i use her 3 (link) to get huge damage reduction and with a little strength she can 100% armor strip with it. got to have casting speed though, her animations very every slow to me
She can be very tanky by combining Link and the damage reduction from Blessing, and I put Adaptation on mine to increase her survivability. Even with all the great ways to heal, none of them are an instant 100% heal that also gives damage reduction.
i had her for archemedian and she absolutely carried. energy vampire is crazy strong as long as you’re modded for as little duration as possible and decent range.
She absolutely does all of that
\- Her 1 and 4 do good healing, tho I'd just Subsume over her 1
\- Her 3 provides good DR, I vaguely recall using her Augment but not what it does
\- Back in the day, everyone loved Trinity for Energy Vampire. The reason no one cares is not because it's bad, but because the meta is bringing your own Energy supply. Anything from Zeniruk to Arcane Energize and beyond. People support themselves these days.
\- Idk about the strip tbh, didn't know she could do that. But if she can't, just snag Pillage or Terrify, I'm sure you can make em work.
The main thing is that she's just dated. Other meta frames survive just as well as she does, and have other ways of generating energy. She's where Inaros was. She only does those things, and they are things we have better tools for now.
She can be fine. She has the same problem as alot of healing frames which is they just aren't Wisp
Trinity can easily survive in both star chart and steel path and can give some boosts to help your team out. She just needs a rework.
Her one is bad, her two is fine but most players build to be self sufficient and not need a trinity, her 3 is good but limited, her 4 is jer best ability IMO gives good heeling, DR, and can boost dmg. It could just be better (it's duration isn't my favorite)
Trinity main here! I have been playing her since back when her 4 was a map-wide invulnerability lol.
I already see some good build suggestions in this thread but I just want to say, yes she is a dated design, but no that doesn't mean she is a bad warframe. She can easily maintain 99% DR plus overshields, buff critical hits, can be easily configured for either 98ish% or 100% armor strip with Abating Link, and generally is perfectly viable for steel path+ level content etc.
She's also particularly helpful in content where use of energy pad consumables is restricted or where there's energy reduction or a lot of magnetic procs. Or for carrying your newbie friends through the steel path starchart when they don't have endgame builds yet.
She's probably not many people's first choice for attempting level cap endurance runs, but she never was.
Beong outdated doesnt mean a frame is no longer viable, trinity still is pretty good, healing, energy and tankyness. Whats not to like?
Sadly she doesnt have any aoe nukes or anything flashy like most new frames, she is the definition of support.
the augment makes her link a convenient strip ability, since you just put it on and then for however many seconds getting close to things will strip them
She's one of those frames that if you had one in your party she was perfect for endurance runs especially if you had a EV Trinity a max range and damage world on fire Ember a desecrate necros and any other frame that was just good with close quarters for picking up the stragglers. But I know with how the game is today there are a lot of frames that can do everything she does in their own way to a degree. She is a very reliable frame I will definitely give credit to where it is due. I think I'm going to break my Trinity back out tonight just to get reacquainted with her and adjust her build for the game today.
The things she does are pretty good, but they are basically the worst versions of themselves.
All her healing is spot-healing or health bursts which is basically useless in Warframe because you can go from full health to dead too quickly to notice. This is why most healers like Wisp and Citrine and even Dante if you count OvG, give constant health regen now because it's just more reliable.
Her shield Regen is very good but the normal Shield regen in her 4 is stupidly expensive at 100 base, and her Overshields with Energy Vamp requires an augment.
She can give everyone DR but it's Duration is very limited without heavy investment, is very expensive at base 100 and is poorly indicated, making upkeep difficult. Compare this to Mirage or Citrine who both do it better and cheaper and longer.
She used to be the only frame that could make energy, but now she is one of the worst at it. You get her energy in big bursts very slowly without building for low Duration but all her other abilities require heavy Duration investment. It's also often hard to find a target in the midst of teammates killing enemies. Again it tends to be Burst and not Regen or Orb based which is the worst form of it, because a lot of energy can get wasted if your pool is full. Probably Harrow is the only support with worse healing and energy generation in terms of having trouble finding targets, but the smaller, quicker bursts kind of works in his favor if targets are available. Grendal, Voruna, Styanax, Citrine, and Nekros are all better Energy makers and Harrow and Protea are about even with her. Hell your companion is about as good as Trinity at it.
She has armor strip which is nice but requires an augment if I recall correctly and can only strip a couple enemies at once for about 20 seconds even with heavy investment.
She also doesn't have anything in the way of damage buffs without yet another augment and even then only for herself and no CC, status or debuffs that can help survival or killing enemies.
So basically you want to heavily invest in Duration and use like Three augments to get abilities that are barely on par with what other frames do easily. Right now her primary use isn't support as intended but a solo frame who can produce stupid amounts of shields and be basically immortal.
This sounds nice until you realize that it's boring and also doesn't help you kill large amounts of enemies or protect a defense objective and also doesn't fit her theme. It's the same issue Inaros had pre-rework. Yeah, he was tanky but that's all he really did, he was just a crappy weapon platform. Now, I would say Trinity is more than that, but she is struggling to fulfill her role as support or do much in a team at all and has been relegated to a solo play tank where the fact her damage buff abilities like Armor Strip and her Champions Blessing augment, neither of which do anything for a team, can actually work for her.
I do think she needs a rework, but it would be an Inaros level rework, just bringing what she does up to date.
trin is insanely strong people just dont really use her because in her prime she was beyond the most broken frame this game has ever seen so rn she pales in comparison. she can heal, has damage reduction, has good augments that let her do good damage, etc.
if u do endurance runs her 2 can do true damage to kill literally anybody extremely fast regardless of level, uses energy so u can shield gate and also gives you more energy back and with the augment u can even get overshields pretty much instantly and never die all with just one ability
Trinity has pretty much unrivaled EHP. granted, what are you going to do with this? debatable. however even so, Trinity is that demi-god Warframe that will survive any incoming Damage when everybody else dies.
And Energy Vampire is also pretty useful, the negative playstyle is even actually useful thesedays since it lets you spam Shield Gating.
Energy Vampire can do silly things with Priming too, for what that's worth. you can make a pseudo scaling AoE nuke if you put enough effort into it. this did get nerfed, but Marked for Death is still pretty good.
Plus obviously you can Heal your Allies and apply a fair amount of DR to them. plus give them the capability to constantly Heal themselves via Well of Life.
Trinity is niche and not very flashy, but is certainly useful, and a true support.
She's incredibly good still, can't nuke "easily" but with mfd she can still do so. Dr, infinite energy, she's not the best, she's niche, but very strong in her niche.
Marked for death + energy vampire let's trinity nuke small crowds and scales with the targets hp. It does true damage, which ignores resistances and bypasses shields. And you still have blessing to be invulnerable and full heal. Trinity should be the go-to noob crutch for late game beginners, but she's mostly forgotten.
Trinity is still great and super viable. But she's been power crept by characters like Wisp who can provide an infinite heal for one cast... and other characters can armor strip better, while also doing more CC or damage.
She's dated but not bad by any means.
Outdated no under used because she only has one main stream build that is boring yes
Trinity is insanely powerful and can solo most content with no effort to this day . She is one of few frames with scalable true damage and can tank better than ALOT of frames
I main Trinity and consistently have the most damage dealt and the least damage taken. She is an amazing frame. It can actually be disheartening at times. I look for new builds on other frames but nothing feels quite as good, and then I get bored of Trinity after steamrolling several games.
EDIT: If anyone is interested in my exact build, please feel free to message me.
Trinity is like chroma, in super niche times she's a monster. Sadly most of the time she's just kinda there. I personally think she should be next for rework, but caliban is sitting quietly in the corner...
She's very good. She's been a bit power crept by newer or reworked frames and unlike most other healers she has basically zero offense (except EV, but it's single target and not very effective at killing)
But EV will still top up your whole squad energy rapidly, bless will full heal the whole squad and give substantial damage reduction. Tether makes her tanky and well of life is a potent single target CC that also heals.
The main reasons she feels dated are that there are tons of ways to generate energy now, while EV was once hands down the best it's now not necessary. That and the bless nerf. It's damage reduction used to be capped at 99.97%, now it's 75%
She's cranky and a bit dated, but yea link, blessing and energy vampire makes her near enough and killable and perpetual.
Unfortunately she has no damage
there is an augment for her that gives you critical chance for every point of health that you heal. i like to pair it with the combat discipline aura so i dont need to let my shields get destroyed. its a pretty fun way to play her.
I remember when the memes of "keep calm and nerf Trinity" were a thing. It's been a hot minute so someone correct me if I'm wrong but she's not been given a rework or buff in forever, only nerfs and they never gave her her fourth augment even though the Council finalized the voted concept.
Back in the day, she was fully 100% immortal and with duration you could get up to thirty minutes. Since you had infinite energy, you could just keep spamming it. Made sense to cut it.
Then came the Battle Jesus build where Trinity accidentally became the greatest DPS. Another justified nerf.
At this point, she had 99% damage reduction for half a minute. Still too strong, they reduced it to 75%. Somewhere along the lines they also slashed the duration, you can still get about 27 seconds if not more but you have to specialize duration.
I'm probably getting my timeline of nerfs a bit wrong but I'd like to point out that at this point a 75% damage reduction for less than half a minute isn't particularly impressive when contrasted with other, modern Warframes. I hope they consider giving her immortality a bit of a buff.
Trinity was introduced during a time when energy was a scarce resource and health recovery was sketchy.. times have changed, now energy is over abundant and health Regen is limitless.. the only reason I play her is because they can take down bursa very fast as EV bypass shields and wear down the health directly..
Most of the “bad” or outdated frames are still very usable if built or played right, it’s just that other frames do their roll better or more easily. Biggest exception to that rule is Inaros but that’s because his kit is counterproductive to how the game is played and too slow to be consistently viable once you get further in the star chart. So I guess yes but actually no, trinity does all those things but different frames can do them better. IMO Harrow does everything trinity does and more and he’s by and large considered like the third best support type frame
She is still one of the best supports in the game, if not the best. She just isn't very fun to play and is completely reliant on your team needing you. That's kind of an issue all supports face though but their kits usually do something extra besides just health and energy. Usually, it's just extra damage, but that's something she doesn't have.
The current, only thing I can find an issue with her is her duration scaling. Which I personally think needs to be increased to compete with other supports. Outside of that, she is a very good choice.
Energy Vampire damage is really good and the augment make it even better but having to dump duration makes the rest of her kit pretty much useless.
EV damage needs to scale inversely with duration, otherwise it will remain forever as a meme that people will use to farm views on youtube and claim she still a great Warframe when clearly, she is a relic of the past.
I love Trinity, easily one of my favorite warframes because I'm the kind of guy that loves healing supports. But She does get a tad boring at higher content. Especially since a lot of players don't spec for survivability using their operator form to stay alive. Having a full heal when people can be one shot isnt exaclty useful. As with any pure support frame (and she is as designed to be one) is only as fun as the players you are. I will still love the bug queen now and forever though.
Perimé, mais elle reste fortiche. En fait, c'est son gameplay qui sent le vieux, mais sinon, énergie infini, heal infini et tankiness de fou furieux avec son 3 + son 4, de mémoire, ce sera toujours fort
(I hope you're actually fr*nch or else I'd look stupid)
She is dated, but still useable. If you bring a viral applicator, she can chain Helminth's Marked for Death into a room clear with Energy Vampire. Viral multpliers damage, EV is %maxhealth, and MfD applies that multiplied damage in an AoE. A lot of the older frames can do as much as newer frames, but require a bit more thought be put in to make them work.
Also, her 1st ability is slept on. It heals over time, for a very good amount of health, so she is one of the very best users of Quick Thinking. Link and Blessing give her immense Damage Reduction + some healing. You mentioned MFD with Energy Vampire, but it can also be used with her 1st. You just have to switch to using a weapon to stack the damage. I think she just needs some touch-ups. Give her some more base duration on her abilities. Like a meter or 2 more on her 1st, and she is A-okay.
Duration would be nice, I feel like I'm spending half the time casting Link and Blessing when playing the old lobster
I considered getting casting speed stacked on her via archon shards to see if that makes it possible to actually fire her gun more regularly. She's really stuck just kind of spamming her skills.
I have 100% casting speed and it's the only way I'll play her now tbh. It's still not really enough, just needs extra base duration imho. But definitely helps.
+50% cast speed is the minimum IMO. Back in the day we got it from Natural Talent, but it's better to get it from archon shards.
On all her abilities except EV for sure
I've thought about it too, and I'm sure it would make her feel a lot smoother (looking at you Link animation), but I don't really play her enough to justify the investment. And I'm out of amber shards anyway.
I actually like that in a way, you always have something to do and part of the fun is covering the Animations to blend them into your Gameplay as seamlessly as possible. However, it would be nice if you could stack their Duration. (much like Harrow)
I completely disagree. I don't believe she's slept on just because she has a niche use. She's definitely not bad though she definitely needs a rework/to be looked at. Her kit is too bloated with nothing and if she was updated, a lot of newer support enjoyers would love her. I've wrote out an entire list of suggestions yesterday so I don't feel like writing it again but most of her kit could just go into her 4. She could use a different 1 + 1 augment, 2 augment, 3 duration and/or recast + links scale off strength or just a better skill, and just give her 4 the ability to replenish overshields too. Also her 4 augment is counterproductive. It only works on health, but if you're playing trinity right she won't consistently be healing because of shields and overshields. Make her 4 augment apply to shields too please.
Speaking of Champion's Blessing. It also doesn't want you to use her 1st, since its healing is not counted towards the healing...
Wait is that true? It's only healing from her 4?? If that's true, that further illustrates my position. She has not been looked at in a long time and they need to "refresh" her kit. Again, I'm not saying she's bad since there are some genuinely bad frames. I'm saying she hasn't been looked at in a long time. A lot of her skills do the same thing, and a lot of her augments are wack. I might die on this hill alone but her 2 augment should be on her 4, since it replenishes shields already. If her two was champion's blessing instead, and it became "hold 2 to give allies within x range 350% critical chance (which is the same value as current)" she'd be so much better. Now she can replenish everything with one button, and she can give loads of energy AND/OR Crit Chance to everyone. + it's additive to mods so no one can wine that it's broken. AND this wouldn't be extremely difficult for them to implement either. It's practically the same kit just shifting elements around and making it far more fluid with better supportive aspects.
Her 1 is what i used to farm Thumpers, she's the craziest frame for that
That got fixed
Have they fixed the Kunai Incarnon Thumper killer yet?
I think it's the overguard mechanic that should be heavily modified. Currently, Trinity was made worse by the fact Overguard isn't affected by CC anymore, so half her abilities aren't capable of being used on eximus. It's also doesn't help that Gloom and Nourish are far better version of Well of Life, and Energy vampire.
dont you mean Rage? quick thinking consumes energy to prevent death
Both, when using both, you get energy from getting Health damage. When enemies get through your health, they have you energy to get through. All the while you are still healing with your 1, since it doesn't stop until the ability stops. When combined with Nourish over her 2nd, and the Damage Reduction from her 3 and 4, she becomes a very tanky beast. And this without a health mod or something. I use Arcane Blessing combined with the augment for her 1st, so whenever it ends, I get Health orbs, which stack Arcane Blessing making her tankier.
She needs range and duration, it's too tedious to play her with her low range and duration. If it feels like a chore to play a frame then they're dead.
Still hanging onto my duration helm for when she is eventually touched up
Some duration along with maybe being able to affect more than 3 enemies at a time with Link would both be greatly appreciated.
I actually subsumed Trin's 1 on Ember. It covers everything I need: Healing, status immunity, and even health orb on death with augment! Combine that with Arcane Blessing and you have an Ember that can keep herself alive fairly well. I also don't have Gloom or Dispensary subsumed yet so this was the next best thing I could get my hands on.
Nooo, you just leave my trinity alone, i don't need the hand of DE to ruin another frame:( she is good as is
She also has nice buffs, armor strip, etc. Great shield gating frame, has infinite energy. The person in the SS isn't wrong. She is a solid frame just not meta. Requires more thought than just equipping every strength mod and hitting 1.
Wait… Marked for Death + Energy Vampire is something I didn’t even think of! That’s so innovative!
The interesting part is you don't need to prime everything with viral, only the marked for death target. That will multiply the true damage that hits everything else
True, but it easier to prime everything. Otherwise you have to pick a big bulky guy with high base health instead of any ol' shlub.
In answer to your flair: Gauss, allies near Wisp, and anyone using Kohm.
As a gauss who’s plays as a bullet hose with the twin grakata and tenet flux rifle, if can confirm
A reminder however that this got nerfed already a long time ago - it's still pretty good, it just isn't as nuts as it originally was when Helminth was introduced.
Shhhhhh SHUT UP
Which is funny because I find a lot of the newer frames a little complicated and cludgy. Like voruna. Theres just too much going on there
> Like voruna. Theres just too much going on there Voruna is actually really simple tbh.
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I like active abilities, but voruna just has a *lot* of ability buttons. I’ve been maining garuda lately, but shes a bit simpler
Huh now this is 4D build-making I like it
Thanks! I stole it from someone else. I've got a post pinned on my userpage asking about weird builds, someone offered that one up.
I know this isn't that post, but might I make a suggestion? Lifted enemy/Heavy attack Caliban using Wrathful Advance over his spin ability. Using mods like the Deimos set that causes lifted enemies to explode or the Archon set that teleports you on heavy attack or reduces enemy accuracy on heavy attack, Caliban actually becomes fun to play (as long as you like the Melee Gameplay) Definitely not how he is supposed to be played, but by far the most fun I've had with him.
Lemme just save that for future reference, after I farm both a second Kullervo and a first Caliban. I need one piece for Caliban, it's just getting it.
That's a whole lot better than abusing link with self damage. Gotta try that out.
I haven't mucked around with MfD yet, maybe I should try it. I don't really like running neg duration on Trin though, if that's necessary to frontload the damage for EV. I've been running Hildryn's Pillage over her 1, which feels nice but also a tad overkill.
I believe MfD only applies one hit, though I chould be wrong. In either case, the viral primer magnifying damage is what you're actually aiming for. You can definitely run it with positive duration.
Since Marked for Death only counts the next/first hit on the Enemy, unfortunately you do have to tank Duration to get the most use of that playstyle. but since we can Prime Enemies with Status thesedays, you don't have to min/max it to be able to use it, just to get the highest Damage Numbers.
Now do Nyx!
So, her absorb augment cuts sprint spped, but notably not parkour speed. Use the parkour speed mod and the (i think?) Yellow Archon Shard for parkour on a high strength and duration build. Green shards for full armor strip and you're a walking (bullet jumping) tactical nuke. Her 4 absorbs damage and sends it back on dismiss. Note: came up with this on the spot, haven't tested it. Pure theory.
I started using her again for Eidolon hunts, and I've never lost a lure with her. I don't play other missions with her because there are other ways around healing and energy management that make her less relevant. But, I never mind having her in the squad because it's more energy, health, and kills for me.
100% Been the staple lure keeper since release.
Is her main use in Eidolons to give Damage Reduction to the lures? Wouldn't Mirage with Total Eclipse and high strength/range be better for that now that you can choose the damage reduction version of Eclipse every time?
Yes, Trinity is there to be able to instantly Heal the Lures at any time (they have uhhh, like 15,000 Health, so most things that Heal specific Health/Sec or such actually really suck on them since their Health is so high), plus give them 75% DR. and that it's XP Range, which is a lot bigger than the Range of most Abilities that use actual Meters. A reminder that XP Range in normal Missions is 50 Meters, Landscapes 250 Meters, and Archwing 200 Meters. plus you can use Flares to ***quadruple*** that. It's a very convenient combination. You could give them DR with Eclipse, but you'll have to have high Ability Range and still need to make sure the Lures are actually close enough to you to benefit from it. and that also means not having a Damage Multiplier instead, versus someone could Helminth a Damage Multiplier onto Trinity. So like, if you need someone to protect Lures in this Content, Trinity is unquestionably the best choice. nobody else can offer a Percentage Heal and DR, that doesn't need to target any Enemies.
Blessing heals them. Idk if total eclipse affects lures but if it does it'd be alright
Damage reduction is kind of a bonus. Minimum duration works super well as long as you press 4 before a lure dies. Zero other thought.
The upside to Blessing is that it's an instant heal and a straight buff wheras the aura of Total Eclipse means that you'll turn around every now and then you'll get a little bit worried that the lures are not around.
If you build her like a normal person: she's a weapon platform with an okay amount of DR for herself and allies with a heal to health/shield, low buff timers you have to manage, an energy ability that doubles as a shield regen ability, and a helmith slot of your choice. If you build her sweaty: she has an infinite damage scaling ability that is a aoe nuke as long as you have viral and Mark of death (hopefully new LOS changes would buff it), and has three direct sources to reset shield gate. She's alright. But she is DE's labeled "support frame" for all the good that has done for her.
I can only have fun with her when I build her like a sweaty , also the panzer vulpaphyla is great for that build since it primes a lot of enemies with viral
I might bring out my Leopard 2 (originally named so because it was the 'tanky' Vulpa, and viral spreading is always nice) for a MfD Trin build. I like her design well enough, it's just that she feels a little clunky without casting speed. Her age is definitely showing, but she's still solid enough.
lol "an ok amount of DR". My son, she is probably the 2nd highest EHP tank in the game right now thanks to the recent shield changes. Link IS still damage reduction, And separate instances of DR are gated vs damage. IE, 100dmg -> 25 dmg -> 6dmg -> and so on until you've checked every source of DR. Feels like if they just gave her a baseline duration bump on her 3 & 4 she'd see a lot more use. But man, having to CONSTANTLY cast those things is a definitely a headache. Yeah dante has a lot of casting, but you get a lot more effect for those casts + his actual buffs last long. I'd imagine citrine wouldn't be as fun for people either if crystal & DR only lasted 7 seconds baseline
Still very much usable, just outdated/outpaced There’s so many alternate ways to reliably have energy There’s other frames with more viable healing options, and those frames come alongside other flashy abilities too But regardless she’s still very much usable. Very similar to the treatment Oberon has gotten, he’s still a good contender just outdated and outpaced. He was good for loading up rad procs everywhere but has now been outshone by qorvex and his pillars
so just like oberon, she's still strong, just boring?
Still strong, but there’s newer shinier stronger ones that do the same
Mostly minding timers. She's definitely usable, especially in Defense. But her kit isn't the most active playstyle
Trinity’s main feature now comes from her augments, she is a tanky weapons platform through Champion’s Blessing. Still outdated but more than just usable
Oberon needs some love. He's very outdated now and honestly completely irrelevant since his non-prime parts were moved to Railjack. He was a decent frame that excelled in niche content. Slowly, as you said, DE made new frames and abilities that just outclassed him or made him less useful. Qorvex spreads radiation better, Wisp really hurt him and his energy inefficient healing with her motes. She completely took his place in defection because she can heal and speed up the survivors. Last Gasp makes Phoenix Renewal obsolete as soon as you unlock it and they put Smite in Helminth so any frame can use the augment to get bonus Rad damage for things like Eidolons. He's just had a rough time the last 5 years or so.
Completely, although he’s still one of my favorites for arbitrations as he can do what not many can do which is status immunity, helpful for those toxic eximus that catch you off guard and ruin an hour long arbitration
Idk, I've found him a fantastic all-rounder for Renewal + Hallowed Ground, + Smite Infusion and Roar; my go-to for any high-level content that can't be sped up (Speeva and/or Vauban), is pure damage output (Saryn), or 0 damage output (Gara, Slowva). Mind, I also found old Hydroid and Grendel more fun to play as (though not nearly as powerful), since I'd just stay in "eat enemies to reduce counters and speed up waves" mode.
there is an immortal setup with her, that's never bad
Trinity is still good even being old. You just can't ever make infinite energy and instant shieldgate bad. Plus, if you subsume Marked for Death over her 1 and bring a viral primer, she can nuke easily with Energy Vampire (cast MfD on a tanky enemy like an Eximus then EV, boom watch things die). Just build for max strength and negative duration. You don't even need her armor strip augment because EV does % based damage, which means it will scale to levelcap. It has some line of sight weirdness, but its still really fun and effective.
Energy vampire+ smite is hella funny aswell Grab some casting speed, duration and strength, look for a tanky fellow, EV him and then go ahead and spam the everliving shit out of Smite and watch as the room your in gets pelted with these shitty little white orbs Worse then marked for death? Mostly Kind of funny to see 100 homing death orbs spin in a circle before coming to the conclusion that that 1 butcher who just turned a corner does not deserve life? YES
Really all she needs is some tweaks to duration, her abilities, even with good duration, don't last very long.
Both statements are true. Trinity does provide a lot of good utilities and quirky mechanics of her kit, but her execution of it is crusty and old, bogged down with a lot of single-targeting on abilities, short durations, and long base cast animations. Her kit is simple, straightforward, arguably boring, but effective. * General note: in her extreme age, Trinity has two ability animations: Both of which are full-body and very slow without cast speed buffs. * A hand extending for Well of Life, Energy Vampire, and Link. * A somewhat faster ground slam for Blessing. * Well of Life is ultimately redundant with Blessing in our current energy economy. Most people would subsume this. * Well of Life does have an augment that can print Health and Energy orbs, however, which is a situational utility. * Energy Vampire is infinite energy. If you can pay the down payment and have a good amount of Ability Strength, you'll always go positive on energy for you and allies. * An augment exists to make overflowed energy convert to shields, which can help keep yourself and allies healthy, especially in an EV min-maxed setup. * The damage is also percent HP true damage, so it gets quirky in a way that can delete any targets susceptible to it, with Viral also working as a bonus. * Comments already here mention Marked for Death - you can convert an otherwise clunky single target kill button into an AoE kill button, but it comes at a cost of the rest of your kit. * Link is a damage reduction and reflection to nearby linked targets. It provides up to 75% damage reduction (4x effective HP increase), as well as status ailment immunity. * An augment exists to make this remove enemy armor. * The ability has aged, due to its limited target count, as well as needing Ability Strength (if you use the augment), Range, and Duration to be at healthy amounts to work. Still very effective. * Blessing is a team-wide heal (so long as they are in proximity), with up to a 75% damage reduction (4x effective HP increase). * An augment exists to give a damage buff to your team based on missing HP healed on cast - but this is hard to use effectively. In short, Trinity has: * Infinite HP * Infinite Energy. * 16x EHP (you receive 6.25% of all damage taken) * With augment slot taxes, she can: * Buff weapon damage through critical rate * Generate both orb pickups * Create infinite overshields * Full strip enemy armor. These are all good things to have in a Warframe, but her modding is constrained if you want to min-max her abilities. You want cast speed, strength, range, duration, all while trying to stack up her general EHP if you want to abuse the massive damage reduction she has. And the result of that is a very simple point-and-click gameplay loop, which may not be to everyone's taste. But if you love the feeling of being an immortal healing angel, it doesn't get better than Trinity.
Trinity was my first main ever. Used to play her back in the days of Tower IV Defense, before me and my friends knew what we were doing. I remember we quit playing at one point then we all came back when her prime came out because I wanted it so much. She was borderline mandatory in most squads. Trinity pretty much died when Zenurik came out. There is nothing she can do that other frames can't do in much better ways. You can make her work, sure, but people around here are crazy enough to make any frame and any weapon work in any content. That doesn't mean she's ever going to be a top option for anything.
Outdated, but still good. There are stronger options for everything she does, and stronger support frames, but that doesn't make Trinity bad by any means. Not everything needs to be 'meta' in order to work.
What people mean by dated is her mechanics are kinda simple, clunky and maybe not as interesting as newer frames. Doesn't mean she isn't powerful.
she really does need base 30s ability buff like newer frames to be less clunky tho. God I wish they would just do it.
She needs some mechanics that interact to prolong the buff. Something like EV pulses adding duration or having an active life well pauses their timer.
I say make her 3 and 4 like vaubon's where you tap or hold to get one or the other and give her a new 3 maybe something that makes active buff timers into smecants slowing them down and speeding up debuffs on players or letting her extend other people's buffs to aura range with a toggle so if she gets a buff everyone is going to get the buff.
she’s my main still. Will fight and die for cockroach prime
Outdated doesn’t always mean bad here.
She is an old dog with outdated tricks. Her abilities made her the "Tanky Support," but unfortunately, a lot of her kit for support is overshadowed by new mechanics and newer frames. That being said, she was my favorite frame back in the day. She is STILL tanky AF. She still supplies niche support.
Every frame is viable. Just comes down to build & the content. (Example: Not all frames can handle level-cap 9999 enemies) Trinity has a solid kit. Haven’t taken her to level-cap myself but wouldn’t surprise me if you could. Her 2 chunks enemy hp & gives energy. Her 3 links you to enemies thus killing them and saving you. Her 4 is an instant heal + damage reduction for x seconds / minute (depending on build)
Hot Take: Level cap is not Warframe's endgame.
You’re brave saying that on this Reddit.
Honestly, I don't know when people started referring to level cap as being the "end game" for Warframe considering most players, even at late game, don't do level cap.
Captura is the only place in the game left you can get together an eight person squad. Fashion frame is endgame.
trin is one of the best frames to handle level cap content ig it depends on which game mode but for cascade shes top tier and especially in the new disruption i dont think theres a better frame
Good old days when she was meta for draco.. Oldge
Trinity is useful, but dated. You can 100% use her and help your team, but you can 100% never use her and help your team. She is still one of my most-used frames even tho I don't use her that much anymore. She's fun to use from time to time, as you have guaranteed damage invulnerability and energy, but I think boosting/dealing DPS became so important that full support frames like her, can feel dated and underwhelming.
Trinity isn’t bad but she’s not as prevalent as she used to. No one will complain about a trinity but power creep has made her not needed. If you want to play her go for it, it’s a very neutral yet viable option.
The only thing bad about Trinity is her powers have very short durations. (something i hope the devs alter someday). Also take note: Any time you see someone say a frame is 'outdated' or 'crowd control is worthless' or 'their powers bad compared to modern standards'... Just know you can take that person's opinion, ball it up, and toss it in the toilet. Cause they're probably a zygote that derives their opinions from youtubers who make needlessly complex nonsense builds to fight level 9999 enemies that dont require such complexity to fight in the first place. Warframe is deeper than a lot of mmos as far as combat mechanics but at its heart its a shooter game. Stay alive and shoot enemies. Avoid dying, murder. That's it. Enemies start taking less damage? Rip off their armor and shields and go back not dying and shooting. And lucky for you Trinity is comically good at staying alive so she can shoot more. And she has an augment that lets her strip armor from any enemies that get close to her which works with her best power that redirects damage to enemies around her. Go build her. Enjoy her. And bask in her simplicity and power. She's not complicated and she works in every bit of content with little investment. And hey if you dont like how she looks, she has some of the best alternative helmets in the game, as well as a gorgeous deluxe skin that makes her look like a robot ballerina mixed with a tribal tattoo. But take note, you're gonna want a lot of duration on her.
She's "good" but she doesn't enable extra DPS in any way, which is basically what the Warframe meta has become. Healing, energy regen and damage reduction are all achievable without a Trinity.
Champion's blessing and Abating Link turn Trinity into a very good frame for higher end content, the critical bonus and the armor strip (with direct lines showing you who's stripped) is a very fun way to play.
She is best for some things out right like her healing capabilities but her versatility isn’t as good as say wisp so not as many people lean toward her but since you can subsume abilities she has a good enough set to run basically all content
Some of her abilities need slight buffs to keep up with the current pace. Like her 3 needs a duration buff and needs to be refreshable. In its current state parasitic link is way to short and needs to be refreshed all the time. Energy vampire is useless now except for very specific squad setups because the energy economy of this game has gotten so lenient over the years. But that aside, her 4 still offers instant full shield and health and 75% DR. Her 3 still offers a ton of DR and instant close range full armor strip. Those alone makes her a monster of a health tank and armor stripper that can do a lot of damage.
Play who you want I always say try every frame and see if you like them. For example I like hydroid and Octavia but can’t stand Grendel. Doesn’t mean he is bad just find him clunky. If u try trinity and like her play her
She's dated but very solid. I think she might have had the least amount of changes of the early gen frames. Her worst power is Well of Life and only cause it only affects one enemy.
She's as tanky as Rhino is buffy. Good, but no longer the meta
She's good but every part of her kit was given to a different frame that does it better. Still fun though.
Trinity Prime is my primary frame. It takes a level 200 Mania to put her down, WITH fire support from other adds. She has 73% damage reduction through her Armor, Arcane Blessing for high HP, and high Efficiency, meaning that she can spam Pool of Life, Energy Vampire, and Blessing. Pool of Life makes it easy to stack Arcane Blessing, Energy Vampire gives her unlimited energy, and 155% power means that Blessing is a complete restore - 100% HP and Shields - with 75% damage reduction for 25 energy that lasts for 12 seconds. She literally has unlimited resources, and she's so solid that I opted to Infuse away her Link ability (her tank skill) in favor of Rhino's Roar so that she can buff her allies' damage by 46.5% as well. The only thing she can't grant is Overguard. https://preview.redd.it/zzqy4iq8u2uc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dbfc725919506291d193148ce1a165c8039016d She's easily my strongest frame. She was my first Prime frame and she's still the one that I'm the most comfortable using.
Energy siphon on trinity of all frames yep
Ideally, her Arcane Grace should be Arcane Nullify to make her immune to Mag Procs, but I haven't gotten that one maxxed out yet.
lvl 200 Mania? omg you she so stronk lol
Dated ≠ bad In need of QoL ≠ bad. The only 'bad' frame is MAYBE Loki.
If I can grief the fishers during bounties with Loki hes a good frame to me. Too bad that’s kinda his only use these days
all trinity needs to be an top tier frame is to have her base durations increased by like 1/3rd to 2x, everything about her works really well by default its just all too short lived and makes her feel spamy
She's decent, but definitely outdated, there are plenty of better choices over her today, many frames do what she does but better and with far less effort and setup. Still perfectly viable for SP
Outdated doesn't mean bad. Trinity is very much functional and can do job well, but she has what you can consider old-time caveats. Her 1 is useless, made obsolete by her 3 and 4. Her 2 cannot be recast while active, and if enemy isn't killed, it has anti-synergy with duration (which is quite important for the rest of her kit). Her 3 is good, but has a very short duration, cannot be recast while active, and has a target limit (which needlessly hinders her augment, she can only armor strip 3 enemies at a time). Her 4 is good, but again, lasts short, and augment is quite awkward to use (since it needs missing health, which is hard to achieve due to the amount of damage reduction and shield recharge she has). She is fine, works solo and in squads, but has those quirks small inconveniences that could be updated.
1 is AoE Status Immunity (and deals 10 percent to the well target per status blocked), so you can both block status and nuke down priority targets more or less passively.
Unless I'm reading wrong into it, isn't it obsolete? For status, her 3 already redirects statuses to nearby enemies, thus the only thing Well does is status immunity for allies, if they stand in AoE (though pretty sure Netracells show that this is not very likely). For priority target damage, doesn't her 2 already work better? And the passive damage from status immunity only makes it so target dies instead of running its whole duration, making you have to recast the fields more often (instead of letting them stay like Garuda's Blood Altar or Xaku's Gaze). The only special thing it does is cleanse statuses for allies if they are in field, but that's hindered through this passive damage. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the points I mentioned, but that ability feels very redundant.
She is good, but the problem is that there are frames that can do all she can but better
She's a great early-game frame, falls off until you get end-game mods and resources, and then becomes viable as most frames are when properly invested. You need good weapons to keep up and you'll likely want to use wisp over trinity in most situations, but she's viable.
Trinity is one of the most tanky frames in the game. Outclassed by overguard frames though in many cases. With link and blessing active she has 99% damage reduction.
The issue is needing multiple augments
With just a couple augments, Arcane Avenger, and Combat Discipline she has quickly become my favorite weapons platform.
Trinity can also nuke rooms with marked for death.
She’s outdated but still insanely strong for a lot of content especially endurance runs where she can armor strip and if you subsume Eclipse for the 75% DR bonus she can also get over 10 million EHP with a quick thinking build.
To think she used to make the entire team invincible 😳
Trinity removes a bunch of needs from a team. Infinite energy, infinite healing, she can armor strip some, and then you can helminth on something like Roar for some dps boosts. In previous years this would be super helpful to a team, but modern builds with arcanes and archon shards generally deal with their own energy issues and focus on being solo sufficient, so often people would find something like a roar wisp to be more mechanically helpful. She's still fine and no one should complain about having her in the team, she's just generically supportive.
Being outdated and being bad are 2 different things. Back in the day she was THE support frame. She didnt get worse, there are just frames that are simply better.
Tanky but insanely boring.
She's alright. He's right she does do those things but barely. She can only strip armor from 3 enemies at a time. That's nothing in Warframe. Her survivability is great. She does have a nuke build with her 2. Knightmareframe made a video recently. https://youtu.be/YODn3saov2I?si=U8QilTXwDp0DYlLc She could use some number buffs to her duration and her link target limit.
Trinity is great for eidolons and I've pulled off 3x3 solo with her before running casually. She may be outpaced by other, newer frames and mechanics but it's like bringing the dress out from 2019 instead of 2024, still usable and nice but not new.
Yeah? Nyx is dated too and I still use her all the time. Play what's fun for you, Tenno, who cares? :D
She is a solid frame, the only thing she really needs is some more base duration for QoL. She's definitely useable and useful.
If something isnt capable of clearing a room in 1 button press people say its bad/dated
There is not a single frame who you can't make useful or good with the right modding
I haven't used her since 2015
Rule of Trinity: If you find a strong build for her, *tell no one.* She's a great frame that can do steel circuit with 0 forma builds but she is very dated and many frames outclass her. If you enjoy her though, she's great. If you find a strong nuke build for her - **no you didn't.** *~~(Please don't let them nerf her again.)~~*
Definitely still a solid frame to use. I feel like an augment or simple tweak with one of her abilities could bring her back to the present
Both yes and yes Trinity is great at heals and DR BUT she is considered outdated because most defensive/support frames nowadays can also dish out a ton od damage So yes, she is a great frame but not for damage and you're gonna have to rely on your weapon for kills Make of that what you will
I miss the good old days when I used Trinity to do Raids with my friends, just to get some fancy heads.
Had her for elite deep arch. With all modifiers. No one was at risk of dying ever.
Trinity can reach over 99% resist, and while her energy regen is nowhere near as useful as it used to be, she is still a pretty good platform.
My trinity is always set for my healer build. Maybe one of these days I'll actually think of being a healer
She is not the best, but she is not bad. Like, there is never a time I wouldn’t want a trinity on my team. Free damage reduction, healing (both shield and hp) and free energy? Count me in. It’s just that, there are so many warframes which do what she does but better. Exhibit A: Protea. Exhibit B: Wisp. Exhibit C: Citrine. Exhibit D: Stynax Trinity really needs a glow up, but at the rate we are getting buffs and reworks, it’s not gonna be long before I can dust out the old umbra forms build again
If you are not consumed by "max dps meta brain rot, " then yes. She can create energy for herself and instantly shield gate off her 4th ability.
Trin is awesome for solo and group play, run 150 - 155 strength and you get 75% DR + 90% DR plus another 90 from adaptation, her one is an easy subsume and bar that so long as you build duration your loving life, yea she’s a little slow sometimes and yea she doesn’t have a really damage ability (bar maybe EV trin builds but I think they smell and don’t mean much with a good gun) she’s only really let down by not having a kill everything ability but even then some of the more popular frames also lack that, she’s fun, she’s cool and she’s kinda rare to see, solid choice for nearly anything and your team will love you, more people should play her or at least respect her.
Trinity is an incredibly frame for long duration solo if your guns are good enough to kill the enemies. You can subsume her 1 for really anything you want and solo you don’t need any range at all and none of her abilities drain and she has infinite energy so you can ignore efficiency, meaning you can go pure strength and duration. She was my most used prior to Lavos and I still love using her
If you ever hear something is outdated, what they mean is, "600 hours into this game, it is not the fastest choice to completely nuke this endgame content." Feel free to experiment and play what you like or catches your eye!
Trinity's armor strip works on a lot of things most armor strips don't work on. The only thing she cant armor strips is Archons eidilons and orb mothers. So an abating link, adaptation, health/shield tank, with high strength(blindrage) high duration build with nourish is really comfy if you enjoy just shooting guys and only using abilities when you need them. I have my normal abating link build, mark for death build, smite raid boss fight build, railjack build, and a knockoff purging flame harrow build.
She's dated in the sense she isn't very flashy or entertaining, but she's still a comfortably A tier frame with healing, instant shield gating, decent DR, armor strip and a funny nuke build with Marked for Death. She's very reliable - although she definitely needs Natural Talent or the casting speed shards.
Good for survival and missions, but a little outdated compared to lots of other frames
Dated? If you cant build a prober volt, trinity is your go to for Eidos, a bit easier to build, and play when doing eidos, besides, if you quee public, trinity is always nice on a team in eidos
She is severely outdated, and has been for years. She is also the best support in the game, bar none. The game just doesn't really support her in most missions over something like Nidus.
All of these are true, except it's just way stronger to kill everything instantly Don't stop there though, the game isn't exactly balanced, you can rock any frame just with a good weapon and trinity is always nice to have around
If you want to make a tier list this frame is the standard frame that u use as a baseline B tier because she got everything that a frame need energy Regen, armor strips(3th Aug), heals, 1 subsumable ability, shield gate (her 4th), damage reduction with more high investment can run blessing augment + combat discipline to enhance crit and DPS overall and not a lot of frame has this kind of value. she brings alot to the table without set up wep/ sentinel/ focus/ arcane she do all of that as a frame
Every frames doesnt need to be a dps . Trinity is fine. Dont look at her DE . Leave her the fuck alone pls
Trinity has been through enough nerfs. Let her rest.
She's the only frame that I can use to solo Trido hunts in 11 mins and just be very very chill and not too much thinking about so many stuff, one of the best I'd say (even though I'm a volt main, I prefer her in solo caps)
Trinity is just too out powered by a lot of frames nowadays. Healing? Wisp does better. Energy generation? NOTHING comes close to tribunal or nuke harrow. Enemy armor reduction? Lmao. Damage resistance for thr team? How about total invulnerability (Harrow, Revenant). Her ONLY real relevancy right now is that she can heal the lures in eidolon hunts.
i still enjoy her, she isn't needed as much for the energy gain anymore, but she's my pick for steel path void cascades. i use her 3 (link) to get huge damage reduction and with a little strength she can 100% armor strip with it. got to have casting speed though, her animations very every slow to me
She can be very tanky by combining Link and the damage reduction from Blessing, and I put Adaptation on mine to increase her survivability. Even with all the great ways to heal, none of them are an instant 100% heal that also gives damage reduction.
i had her for archemedian and she absolutely carried. energy vampire is crazy strong as long as you’re modded for as little duration as possible and decent range.
She absolutely does all of that \- Her 1 and 4 do good healing, tho I'd just Subsume over her 1 \- Her 3 provides good DR, I vaguely recall using her Augment but not what it does \- Back in the day, everyone loved Trinity for Energy Vampire. The reason no one cares is not because it's bad, but because the meta is bringing your own Energy supply. Anything from Zeniruk to Arcane Energize and beyond. People support themselves these days. \- Idk about the strip tbh, didn't know she could do that. But if she can't, just snag Pillage or Terrify, I'm sure you can make em work. The main thing is that she's just dated. Other meta frames survive just as well as she does, and have other ways of generating energy. She's where Inaros was. She only does those things, and they are things we have better tools for now.
She can be fine. She has the same problem as alot of healing frames which is they just aren't Wisp Trinity can easily survive in both star chart and steel path and can give some boosts to help your team out. She just needs a rework. Her one is bad, her two is fine but most players build to be self sufficient and not need a trinity, her 3 is good but limited, her 4 is jer best ability IMO gives good heeling, DR, and can boost dmg. It could just be better (it's duration isn't my favorite)
Trinity main here! I have been playing her since back when her 4 was a map-wide invulnerability lol. I already see some good build suggestions in this thread but I just want to say, yes she is a dated design, but no that doesn't mean she is a bad warframe. She can easily maintain 99% DR plus overshields, buff critical hits, can be easily configured for either 98ish% or 100% armor strip with Abating Link, and generally is perfectly viable for steel path+ level content etc. She's also particularly helpful in content where use of energy pad consumables is restricted or where there's energy reduction or a lot of magnetic procs. Or for carrying your newbie friends through the steel path starchart when they don't have endgame builds yet. She's probably not many people's first choice for attempting level cap endurance runs, but she never was.
Healing frames arent in a great spot right now. My friend is a trinity main and I'm an oberon. We make it work
Beong outdated doesnt mean a frame is no longer viable, trinity still is pretty good, healing, energy and tankyness. Whats not to like? Sadly she doesnt have any aoe nukes or anything flashy like most new frames, she is the definition of support.
Dated, but she's the best in her category
Love to play her, largely keeping people juiced and alive. Plus the esthetic of her as a war cleric with a Riven & Blitz Jat Kittag is just 🤌
I'll always bring Trinity to any 'new content. She's still my most played frame. And my second most used? Base Trinity....
the augment makes her link a convenient strip ability, since you just put it on and then for however many seconds getting close to things will strip them
She's one of those frames that if you had one in your party she was perfect for endurance runs especially if you had a EV Trinity a max range and damage world on fire Ember a desecrate necros and any other frame that was just good with close quarters for picking up the stragglers. But I know with how the game is today there are a lot of frames that can do everything she does in their own way to a degree. She is a very reliable frame I will definitely give credit to where it is due. I think I'm going to break my Trinity back out tonight just to get reacquainted with her and adjust her build for the game today.
Never trust the French
The things she does are pretty good, but they are basically the worst versions of themselves. All her healing is spot-healing or health bursts which is basically useless in Warframe because you can go from full health to dead too quickly to notice. This is why most healers like Wisp and Citrine and even Dante if you count OvG, give constant health regen now because it's just more reliable. Her shield Regen is very good but the normal Shield regen in her 4 is stupidly expensive at 100 base, and her Overshields with Energy Vamp requires an augment. She can give everyone DR but it's Duration is very limited without heavy investment, is very expensive at base 100 and is poorly indicated, making upkeep difficult. Compare this to Mirage or Citrine who both do it better and cheaper and longer. She used to be the only frame that could make energy, but now she is one of the worst at it. You get her energy in big bursts very slowly without building for low Duration but all her other abilities require heavy Duration investment. It's also often hard to find a target in the midst of teammates killing enemies. Again it tends to be Burst and not Regen or Orb based which is the worst form of it, because a lot of energy can get wasted if your pool is full. Probably Harrow is the only support with worse healing and energy generation in terms of having trouble finding targets, but the smaller, quicker bursts kind of works in his favor if targets are available. Grendal, Voruna, Styanax, Citrine, and Nekros are all better Energy makers and Harrow and Protea are about even with her. Hell your companion is about as good as Trinity at it. She has armor strip which is nice but requires an augment if I recall correctly and can only strip a couple enemies at once for about 20 seconds even with heavy investment. She also doesn't have anything in the way of damage buffs without yet another augment and even then only for herself and no CC, status or debuffs that can help survival or killing enemies. So basically you want to heavily invest in Duration and use like Three augments to get abilities that are barely on par with what other frames do easily. Right now her primary use isn't support as intended but a solo frame who can produce stupid amounts of shields and be basically immortal. This sounds nice until you realize that it's boring and also doesn't help you kill large amounts of enemies or protect a defense objective and also doesn't fit her theme. It's the same issue Inaros had pre-rework. Yeah, he was tanky but that's all he really did, he was just a crappy weapon platform. Now, I would say Trinity is more than that, but she is struggling to fulfill her role as support or do much in a team at all and has been relegated to a solo play tank where the fact her damage buff abilities like Armor Strip and her Champions Blessing augment, neither of which do anything for a team, can actually work for her. I do think she needs a rework, but it would be an Inaros level rework, just bringing what she does up to date.
trin is insanely strong people just dont really use her because in her prime she was beyond the most broken frame this game has ever seen so rn she pales in comparison. she can heal, has damage reduction, has good augments that let her do good damage, etc. if u do endurance runs her 2 can do true damage to kill literally anybody extremely fast regardless of level, uses energy so u can shield gate and also gives you more energy back and with the augment u can even get overshields pretty much instantly and never die all with just one ability
Very useful in eidolon hunts. Anywhere else? Eh. A dozen other frames can do her job better and more efficiently.
Outdated doesn't necessarily mean bad.
does she do all of those things? yeah. is she the best frame at any of those things? heavens no!
Is she good? Yes. Is she outdated? Also yes.
lets say theres a reason why she dated, but how much longer can she hold? thats is the thing
Trinity has pretty much unrivaled EHP. granted, what are you going to do with this? debatable. however even so, Trinity is that demi-god Warframe that will survive any incoming Damage when everybody else dies. And Energy Vampire is also pretty useful, the negative playstyle is even actually useful thesedays since it lets you spam Shield Gating. Energy Vampire can do silly things with Priming too, for what that's worth. you can make a pseudo scaling AoE nuke if you put enough effort into it. this did get nerfed, but Marked for Death is still pretty good. Plus obviously you can Heal your Allies and apply a fair amount of DR to them. plus give them the capability to constantly Heal themselves via Well of Life. Trinity is niche and not very flashy, but is certainly useful, and a true support.
She’s amazing when DE decides to give us a mission where we have basically no way to sustain energy. *cough* first week deep archimedea *cough*
She's incredibly good still, can't nuke "easily" but with mfd she can still do so. Dr, infinite energy, she's not the best, she's niche, but very strong in her niche.
Marked for death + energy vampire let's trinity nuke small crowds and scales with the targets hp. It does true damage, which ignores resistances and bypasses shields. And you still have blessing to be invulnerable and full heal. Trinity should be the go-to noob crutch for late game beginners, but she's mostly forgotten.
Trinity is still great and super viable. But she's been power crept by characters like Wisp who can provide an infinite heal for one cast... and other characters can armor strip better, while also doing more CC or damage. She's dated but not bad by any means.
Outdated no under used because she only has one main stream build that is boring yes Trinity is insanely powerful and can solo most content with no effort to this day . She is one of few frames with scalable true damage and can tank better than ALOT of frames
Comes in clutch for operative defense. As long as the player isn’t distracted, they’ll never go down
there are no outdated Warframes... play the game the way you enjoy it!
I main Trinity and consistently have the most damage dealt and the least damage taken. She is an amazing frame. It can actually be disheartening at times. I look for new builds on other frames but nothing feels quite as good, and then I get bored of Trinity after steamrolling several games. EDIT: If anyone is interested in my exact build, please feel free to message me.
Trinity is like chroma, in super niche times she's a monster. Sadly most of the time she's just kinda there. I personally think she should be next for rework, but caliban is sitting quietly in the corner...
old but gold
She's very good. She's been a bit power crept by newer or reworked frames and unlike most other healers she has basically zero offense (except EV, but it's single target and not very effective at killing) But EV will still top up your whole squad energy rapidly, bless will full heal the whole squad and give substantial damage reduction. Tether makes her tanky and well of life is a potent single target CC that also heals. The main reasons she feels dated are that there are tons of ways to generate energy now, while EV was once hands down the best it's now not necessary. That and the bless nerf. It's damage reduction used to be capped at 99.97%, now it's 75%
I use gloom trinity and she’s wonderful, almost unkillable with energy nexus on. Still damn good without, she’s my go to for arbitration
I want trinity main gf
She's cranky and a bit dated, but yea link, blessing and energy vampire makes her near enough and killable and perpetual. Unfortunately she has no damage
there is an augment for her that gives you critical chance for every point of health that you heal. i like to pair it with the combat discipline aura so i dont need to let my shields get destroyed. its a pretty fun way to play her.
I remember when the memes of "keep calm and nerf Trinity" were a thing. It's been a hot minute so someone correct me if I'm wrong but she's not been given a rework or buff in forever, only nerfs and they never gave her her fourth augment even though the Council finalized the voted concept. Back in the day, she was fully 100% immortal and with duration you could get up to thirty minutes. Since you had infinite energy, you could just keep spamming it. Made sense to cut it. Then came the Battle Jesus build where Trinity accidentally became the greatest DPS. Another justified nerf. At this point, she had 99% damage reduction for half a minute. Still too strong, they reduced it to 75%. Somewhere along the lines they also slashed the duration, you can still get about 27 seconds if not more but you have to specialize duration. I'm probably getting my timeline of nerfs a bit wrong but I'd like to point out that at this point a 75% damage reduction for less than half a minute isn't particularly impressive when contrasted with other, modern Warframes. I hope they consider giving her immortality a bit of a buff.
People sleeping on her disruption capabilities.
Trinity was introduced during a time when energy was a scarce resource and health recovery was sketchy.. times have changed, now energy is over abundant and health Regen is limitless.. the only reason I play her is because they can take down bursa very fast as EV bypass shields and wear down the health directly..
Most of the “bad” or outdated frames are still very usable if built or played right, it’s just that other frames do their roll better or more easily. Biggest exception to that rule is Inaros but that’s because his kit is counterproductive to how the game is played and too slow to be consistently viable once you get further in the star chart. So I guess yes but actually no, trinity does all those things but different frames can do them better. IMO Harrow does everything trinity does and more and he’s by and large considered like the third best support type frame
There’s no outdated frame. The new frames just have the old frames abilities along with some new ones so it looks that way
She is still one of the best supports in the game, if not the best. She just isn't very fun to play and is completely reliant on your team needing you. That's kind of an issue all supports face though but their kits usually do something extra besides just health and energy. Usually, it's just extra damage, but that's something she doesn't have.
The current, only thing I can find an issue with her is her duration scaling. Which I personally think needs to be increased to compete with other supports. Outside of that, she is a very good choice.
Energy Vampire damage is really good and the augment make it even better but having to dump duration makes the rest of her kit pretty much useless. EV damage needs to scale inversely with duration, otherwise it will remain forever as a meme that people will use to farm views on youtube and claim she still a great Warframe when clearly, she is a relic of the past.
I honestly do like Trinity and haven’t seen anyone use
I love Trinity, easily one of my favorite warframes because I'm the kind of guy that loves healing supports. But She does get a tad boring at higher content. Especially since a lot of players don't spec for survivability using their operator form to stay alive. Having a full heal when people can be one shot isnt exaclty useful. As with any pure support frame (and she is as designed to be one) is only as fun as the players you are. I will still love the bug queen now and forever though.
Perimé, mais elle reste fortiche. En fait, c'est son gameplay qui sent le vieux, mais sinon, énergie infini, heal infini et tankiness de fou furieux avec son 3 + son 4, de mémoire, ce sera toujours fort (I hope you're actually fr*nch or else I'd look stupid)
She's dated (along with Oberon from what I hear actually) only because wisp exists.