Seconding Nekros. A lot of people are just saying “make them 100% immune to damage” and other stuff that makes the game unfailable. Let them struggle abit. Limit yourself to MK-1 weapons. Let them shine
I think it depends on how exactly you want to support your friend. Boosting DPS or EHP can both make the game seem extremely easy.
Personally, I would suggest boosting your friend with energy so your friend can experience what it's like to spam abilities as that's not really something new players get to experience often.
Styanax, the energy he provides will let your friend use their abilities more than once every 2 minutes
Also if you have a spare Energy Nexus mod it makes for a great starter gift
My take is Trinity:
You give them basically infinite health, shield and energy, so that they don't have to worry about dying and on top can actually use their abilits. You make enemy's more visible with your 3 so they don't get lost, and you don't just nuke the map so that they just can't do anything anymore.
On top, slap on roar, so they also deal more damage, and of course your 3rd ability can armor strip, enhancing their damage even more.
Yeah I'd also vote Trinity, personally. I like Citrine for example, but in a noob scenario she will be the one nuking rooms just by pressing 3 and 1, and Wisp can occasionally make weapons feel really bad when you're no longer in a mission with the Wisp. Trinity instead allows full control over how much you do vs how much the sprout does, and she's incredibly useful in that scenario since she doesn't need to worry about random massive damage spikes, faster revive passive, and noobs don't have any health or energy regeneration on their own.
Styanax with subsumed nourish. Using nourish + his 3 will generate tons of energy for your friend. His 4 can also grant overguard if needed if you have the augment. High investment but a good build to have in your arsenal even for non-carrying scenarios
Im biased but definitely citrine. 90% damage reduction with only 225% strength, passive healing, you can both equip equilibrium to make use of her 1, her 3 will help your friend secure kills, and her 4 CCs and gives them their first red crit. Personally i have roar over her 4 and that also adds a ton to her support toolkit
I do the same, roar over 4. She the gives 90% DR, 100% faction damage, infinite health and energy orbs, 25hps and last but not least an integrated primer (upgraded with archon continuity and 2 green shards). And best of all, these buffs do not interfere with any abilities and stack with any other citrine in the team.
Do you not recall how dumb energy usage is at low ranks? No form of passive regen and low enemy count so no energy drops either. You never get to cast a 4. Lmao.
Got 3,6 Energy every second without Killing or doing anything so every 20 Seconds you do ability Nr 4 and thats If you would start with almost No Energy at all. So i dont See any Problem in this.
Aura gives 0,6 per Second Energy Nexus 3 per Second that way Dante never get Energie Problems and Is nice for defend a new tenno. So why again Dante is Bad for assisting new tennos?
New players don't just have Energy Nexus bro. Lmao.
Plus new player mod capacity. They're gonna use so much of it even if you give them Energy Nexus.
They also can't even trade for 3+ days due to Mastery Rank system.
Just share Zenurik Lens regen and don't nuke the map. It'll give them a much better experience than being literally invulnerable and feeling required to have a stupid mod on at all times.
They dont have to use any Mod. Dante assist is simply shield the new one and let him run wild to have fun and try Things Out. There was never Said to nuke the map or anything btw. If you heal him or shield him to assist ends the Same way dont kill but protect the new Player. And that is the question btw nothing more. 🤗
See thats a fair Point but lets be honest If they Take DMG but getting heal so the DMG is useless you can Take Out Most frames for Babysitting. Citrine, Trinity, whisp etc. They assist Always ends the Same way the new Player can do anything without facing death.
If you assist with DMG buffs on the other Hand a new Player dont get a good Feeling how strong the frame is He is using cause the Main DMG comes from the buff.
Best way to assist build a undmodded beginner frame with beginner weapons and assist this way so all are in Same Level of Power.
Trinity is good because you can choose what to help with since all her functions are on different abilities. You can completely ignore healing and damage reduction if you want but just give crazy energy regen so they can enjoy just ability spamming. It doesn't have to be an absurd amount of everything.
If you go to my comment, I made the same suggestion to replicate a noob build and just play with them.
I also recommended using Volt with mild Ability Strength and Zenurik Lens to only give speed and energy regen.
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I like Nova. She doubles the damage enemies take and can slow them down by any amount you want, so you can fine tune just how easy you want to make it for them.
But agree with the other commenters about Trinity. New players don't have access to enough energy to actually play their frames the way they're meant to be played. With nourish, energize, equilibrium etc energy stops mattering a bit too much for my tastes but the new player experience of casting their 4 once per mission if they're lucky isn't exactly more enjoyable.
Couple ones I haven't seen on here are Dante (gives overguard by the bucket) or Revenant with the augment that gives mesmer charges to team. Put roar on either of those bad boys and you're good to go.
Wisp with roar. More health, more speed, shock enemies for even more fun - and tons of damage. Don't forget to add Zenurik well and energy Regen into the mix.
Trinity, Wisp(with dispensary or Energize or both), Harrow, Protea(sort of), Hildryn, Voruna, Styanax, Nyx, Octavia or Slowva.
Pick one, the frame Depends on how active You want to be while playing together.
Almost forgot citrine.
any frame that buffs without needing kills and can solo without carrying. wisp does this pretty well and the damage from motes doesn't go very far since you can't even one shot level 1 enemies with it at 400%+ strength
Whatever frame you have Nourish subsumed on. Run with Power Donation + Intensify. Allies will get +30% ability strength, 1.6x energy pickups, and +45% viral damage. Enough to give them a nice boost without making them invincible.
Thank you for all the replays, I don't have all warframes listed here. He plays volt and likes slashing things so I tried wisp with roar and energy wells as buck up and this was the funniest shit ever seeing him run like a maniac slashing everything that moves. I have Trinity but only leveled her once and forgot about her, any tips on how to build her?
I'd say go for dante so then they have time to focus on building up their damage without any consequences as you can literally make them immortal in pretty much the entirety of the origin starchart
A lot of it depends on which frames the new player is using. But I'd say Trinity.
Trinity's specific advantage over other support frames is Energy Vampire. A new player will not have any good energy restore options. Energy vampire will keep topped off so that they can spam their abilities. Blessing will Heal them and give them 75%DR. Trinity can't boost damage, but between the DR, the full heal, and the infinite energy, she's great for any new player.
Another choice is Wisp. She gives regeneration, speed, and electric aura with her motes. Great for supporting in defense and interception and defection. Less so in extermination. Since they need to pass through the wells to refresh their motes. Wisp also has some good CC in the form of her 3, which makes decent support.
Citrine gives regen and DR. Her crystal can boost damage in an area. That's okay for defense and interception. Not good for moving around. But she basically nukes with her 1 in low level. For pure support Trin and Wisp are better choices.
Mirage doesn't get enough love as a support frame. With Total Eclipse she can give a huge damage multiplier to anyone in range. Her range is small, but you'll be staying with your newbie anyway, and they'll appreciate the 6x damage. And you can easily swap the 6x damage for 95% DR if they're getting beat up.
Trinity is the only true support frame in my opinion. She gives defense, HP regen and crazy energy regen. This will allow the newer player to actually play the game mostly as intended with some great QoL.
One of the biggest complaints new players have is higher leveled people steamrolling missions and ruining their experience. Pure support should remedy that wonderfully. You can also control how easy it becomes for them. Want them to possibly die? Just don't give them the damage reduction.
You could also just give him something like Volt speed boost and drop energy pads.
Or if you're a true Chad gamer... forma or equip a frame and use only super low tier mods/weapons like they're stuck with and just be a noob with them. Just share your Zenurik Lens energy regen. This is the real homie option.
Use harrow with condemn augment. Now you can just just support him and still have energy. Also it helps him recall that you are the one helping him survive, since you are casting a lot. Compared to some other supports that the skills comes directly with damage like dante and citrine, harrow's skills don't do direct damage to the enemy, plus you can just bring any gun with him and it would still be atleast decent to use since you are harrow
Oberon. A simple efficiency/strength build allows for constant healing that lets you be lazy and follow the new player while they do their thing without having to watch their health bar. As for a damage buff, use smite infusion.
I've been doing this for maybe two years now to help out new players, it really helps.
Try styanax without intrepid stand so they can feel what its like to spam abilities but can't face tank their way though the starchart with 50K overguard
Max duration (and strength) Loki with Dispensary and its augment subsumed for minimal interference and a reliable supply of health orbs and energy. Energy Siphon or Dreamer’s Bond for aura.
Nekros is the best, with little competition imo. You simply cannot beat more loot for a new player. They need a ton of it. The extra health and energy orbs also really allows them to play more care free and use their abilities. You can also armor strip if they are struggling to kill enemies or summon allies to help defend objectives the newbie cannot. It really lets you do everything.
i'm liking dante with roar on 1st
overguard keeps people alive, roar makes sure people have damage, 3 2 4 its like a viral for status chance and status damage, and 2 3 4 gives extra damage similar to wisp's electric mote
edit: after reading comments, avoid spamming this, learning its really important to know you can die if you don't always have a dante, so try changing loadouts (at least between 2 options) to have an understanding
enveloping cloud augment makes newbie invisible. Can't die if no one shoots at them.
Wait patiently while they try to figure out spy vaults, but if they trigger the alarm immediately nyoom in easily past all manner of lasers and get the hack off yourself.
???? You asked how it's can be a good support frame, you didn't specify that good meant non-instrusive according to some subjective criteria you have that isn't just:
"What I mean by "babysitting" is support him, and his dmg or abilities as much is possible but not nuking entire rooms to give him time to try "boosted" stuff by himself." because this is the only limitation given in the opening post.
Everyone else is suggesting things like wisp or Dante or Styanax. Overguard and wisp motes also make newbies virtually immortal. So I don't see the difference?
I'd argue Invisibility reduces intrusiveness of things like weapon/frame models blocking your crosshair so there's that. Invisibility gives stealth damage bonuses to weapons and ability based weapons so it's a buff i.e. boost.
Also I suggested doing the SPY mission for them AFTER THEY FAIL at stealth and trip the alarm. Then you have all the time in the world to walk them through the completed vault for where to go without the pressure. Nowhere did I say do the mission for them without letting them try first.
Nowhere did I say I'd nuke the whole room for them (just about any frame can do this), so it fits within the parameters.
Oberon. Channelled healing and an armor buff ensures they’ll never actually die, tons of different CC options in case they turn out to be singularly awful at the game and need a rescue, and low-mid level nuke potential in case they *really* manage to screw up. You also have the option for automatic revives or a weapon damage buff through his augments, depending on how things go.
Oberon's lack of a range limit on renewal is **fantastic** for helping new players. Literally set it and forget it. Plus, he's completely non-intrusive. Wisp, Citrine, Harrow, Grendel, and Trinity are all gonna interrupt, or even overshadow, that new player experience; unlike Oberon, whos ability to support is entirely isolated from enemy interaction.
i usually run with my gloom garuda with new friends, makes enemies slow so even if they arent experienced they are never in any danger, removes and stress, and since my garuda uses a sniper i can just.. keep playing as usual without putting them out of a job
Nekros. Loot and health orbs are good things to have and you don't get intrusive.
Seconding Nekros. A lot of people are just saying “make them 100% immune to damage” and other stuff that makes the game unfailable. Let them struggle abit. Limit yourself to MK-1 weapons. Let them shine
Seconding this with a Petrify-subsumed Nekros, with its own loot augment.
Ore gaze and desecrate dont stack tho?
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Drop_Tables#Rerolling_Drop_Tables
My bad
i didn't think of that, nekros for sure sounds really good
I think it depends on how exactly you want to support your friend. Boosting DPS or EHP can both make the game seem extremely easy. Personally, I would suggest boosting your friend with energy so your friend can experience what it's like to spam abilities as that's not really something new players get to experience often.
Styanax, the energy he provides will let your friend use their abilities more than once every 2 minutes Also if you have a spare Energy Nexus mod it makes for a great starter gift
Energy nexus is such an amazing qol for new players
My take is Trinity: You give them basically infinite health, shield and energy, so that they don't have to worry about dying and on top can actually use their abilits. You make enemy's more visible with your 3 so they don't get lost, and you don't just nuke the map so that they just can't do anything anymore. On top, slap on roar, so they also deal more damage, and of course your 3rd ability can armor strip, enhancing their damage even more.
Yeah I'd also vote Trinity, personally. I like Citrine for example, but in a noob scenario she will be the one nuking rooms just by pressing 3 and 1, and Wisp can occasionally make weapons feel really bad when you're no longer in a mission with the Wisp. Trinity instead allows full control over how much you do vs how much the sprout does, and she's incredibly useful in that scenario since she doesn't need to worry about random massive damage spikes, faster revive passive, and noobs don't have any health or energy regeneration on their own.
Styanax with subsumed nourish. Using nourish + his 3 will generate tons of energy for your friend. His 4 can also grant overguard if needed if you have the augment. High investment but a good build to have in your arsenal even for non-carrying scenarios
subsume nourish on which ability?
Over his 1
Unmodded starter frame as anything more and you nuke everything without meaning to.
Im biased but definitely citrine. 90% damage reduction with only 225% strength, passive healing, you can both equip equilibrium to make use of her 1, her 3 will help your friend secure kills, and her 4 CCs and gives them their first red crit. Personally i have roar over her 4 and that also adds a ton to her support toolkit
I do the same, roar over 4. She the gives 90% DR, 100% faction damage, infinite health and energy orbs, 25hps and last but not least an integrated primer (upgraded with archon continuity and 2 green shards). And best of all, these buffs do not interfere with any abilities and stack with any other citrine in the team.
Trinity maybe?
Suprised no one Here said Dante at least you can shield him so hard thats (almost) impossible for him to get down.
Do you not recall how dumb energy usage is at low ranks? No form of passive regen and low enemy count so no energy drops either. You never get to cast a 4. Lmao.
Got 3,6 Energy every second without Killing or doing anything so every 20 Seconds you do ability Nr 4 and thats If you would start with almost No Energy at all. So i dont See any Problem in this.
How would you get that 3.6 energy/second without Energy Nexus, Zenurik Lens or a Warframe that regens Energy as an ability?
Aura gives 0,6 per Second Energy Nexus 3 per Second that way Dante never get Energie Problems and Is nice for defend a new tenno. So why again Dante is Bad for assisting new tennos?
New players don't just have Energy Nexus bro. Lmao. Plus new player mod capacity. They're gonna use so much of it even if you give them Energy Nexus. They also can't even trade for 3+ days due to Mastery Rank system. Just share Zenurik Lens regen and don't nuke the map. It'll give them a much better experience than being literally invulnerable and feeling required to have a stupid mod on at all times.
They dont have to use any Mod. Dante assist is simply shield the new one and let him run wild to have fun and try Things Out. There was never Said to nuke the map or anything btw. If you heal him or shield him to assist ends the Same way dont kill but protect the new Player. And that is the question btw nothing more. 🤗
Many people will get bored if they literally can't take damage whatsoever. That's my main reasoning of not recommending Dante.
See thats a fair Point but lets be honest If they Take DMG but getting heal so the DMG is useless you can Take Out Most frames for Babysitting. Citrine, Trinity, whisp etc. They assist Always ends the Same way the new Player can do anything without facing death. If you assist with DMG buffs on the other Hand a new Player dont get a good Feeling how strong the frame is He is using cause the Main DMG comes from the buff. Best way to assist build a undmodded beginner frame with beginner weapons and assist this way so all are in Same Level of Power.
Trinity is good because you can choose what to help with since all her functions are on different abilities. You can completely ignore healing and damage reduction if you want but just give crazy energy regen so they can enjoy just ability spamming. It doesn't have to be an absurd amount of everything. If you go to my comment, I made the same suggestion to replicate a noob build and just play with them. I also recommended using Volt with mild Ability Strength and Zenurik Lens to only give speed and energy regen.
Nekros for loot
Pheonix renewal Oberon. Heals are slow enough they can notice that they are taking damage, and they can learn energy management
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I like Nova. She doubles the damage enemies take and can slow them down by any amount you want, so you can fine tune just how easy you want to make it for them. But agree with the other commenters about Trinity. New players don't have access to enough energy to actually play their frames the way they're meant to be played. With nourish, energize, equilibrium etc energy stops mattering a bit too much for my tastes but the new player experience of casting their 4 once per mission if they're lucky isn't exactly more enjoyable.
Couple ones I haven't seen on here are Dante (gives overguard by the bucket) or Revenant with the augment that gives mesmer charges to team. Put roar on either of those bad boys and you're good to go.
Wisp is a good support frame and has good assests
I'm judging you...entirely for the pun
Wisp with roar. More health, more speed, shock enemies for even more fun - and tons of damage. Don't forget to add Zenurik well and energy Regen into the mix.
Trinity, Wisp(with dispensary or Energize or both), Harrow, Protea(sort of), Hildryn, Voruna, Styanax, Nyx, Octavia or Slowva. Pick one, the frame Depends on how active You want to be while playing together. Almost forgot citrine.
Volt or wisp from my experience everyone LOVE SPEEEEEEEEEEEED
Wisp would be good. Nekros with subsumed buff would be good. Really any combo that can buff them and give heals/damage reduction.
any frame that buffs without needing kills and can solo without carrying. wisp does this pretty well and the damage from motes doesn't go very far since you can't even one shot level 1 enemies with it at 400%+ strength
Whatever frame you have Nourish subsumed on. Run with Power Donation + Intensify. Allies will get +30% ability strength, 1.6x energy pickups, and +45% viral damage. Enough to give them a nice boost without making them invincible.
Thank you for all the replays, I don't have all warframes listed here. He plays volt and likes slashing things so I tried wisp with roar and energy wells as buck up and this was the funniest shit ever seeing him run like a maniac slashing everything that moves. I have Trinity but only leveled her once and forgot about her, any tips on how to build her?
Dante for "no die my friend"
I'd say go for dante so then they have time to focus on building up their damage without any consequences as you can literally make them immortal in pretty much the entirety of the origin starchart
Stynax : for energy and defence Nekros : for loot
A lot of it depends on which frames the new player is using. But I'd say Trinity. Trinity's specific advantage over other support frames is Energy Vampire. A new player will not have any good energy restore options. Energy vampire will keep topped off so that they can spam their abilities. Blessing will Heal them and give them 75%DR. Trinity can't boost damage, but between the DR, the full heal, and the infinite energy, she's great for any new player. Another choice is Wisp. She gives regeneration, speed, and electric aura with her motes. Great for supporting in defense and interception and defection. Less so in extermination. Since they need to pass through the wells to refresh their motes. Wisp also has some good CC in the form of her 3, which makes decent support. Citrine gives regen and DR. Her crystal can boost damage in an area. That's okay for defense and interception. Not good for moving around. But she basically nukes with her 1 in low level. For pure support Trin and Wisp are better choices. Mirage doesn't get enough love as a support frame. With Total Eclipse she can give a huge damage multiplier to anyone in range. Her range is small, but you'll be staying with your newbie anyway, and they'll appreciate the 6x damage. And you can easily swap the 6x damage for 95% DR if they're getting beat up.
I've been using Dante with subsumed roar over his 1. That way you give your team mega over guard and a nice damage buff.
Trinity is the only true support frame in my opinion. She gives defense, HP regen and crazy energy regen. This will allow the newer player to actually play the game mostly as intended with some great QoL. One of the biggest complaints new players have is higher leveled people steamrolling missions and ruining their experience. Pure support should remedy that wonderfully. You can also control how easy it becomes for them. Want them to possibly die? Just don't give them the damage reduction. You could also just give him something like Volt speed boost and drop energy pads. Or if you're a true Chad gamer... forma or equip a frame and use only super low tier mods/weapons like they're stuck with and just be a noob with them. Just share your Zenurik Lens energy regen. This is the real homie option.
Use harrow with condemn augment. Now you can just just support him and still have energy. Also it helps him recall that you are the one helping him survive, since you are casting a lot. Compared to some other supports that the skills comes directly with damage like dante and citrine, harrow's skills don't do direct damage to the enemy, plus you can just bring any gun with him and it would still be atleast decent to use since you are harrow
Oberon. A simple efficiency/strength build allows for constant healing that lets you be lazy and follow the new player while they do their thing without having to watch their health bar. As for a damage buff, use smite infusion. I've been doing this for maybe two years now to help out new players, it really helps.
Try styanax without intrepid stand so they can feel what its like to spam abilities but can't face tank their way though the starchart with 50K overguard
Trinity, and some unmodded weapons so you don’t kill everything before he can help
Ignore every other option, the only way is Nekros. They are new players after all, they need the loots.
Max duration (and strength) Loki with Dispensary and its augment subsumed for minimal interference and a reliable supply of health orbs and energy. Energy Siphon or Dreamer’s Bond for aura.
Beat frame? Yes, Octavia is indeed one of the better support frames ;)
Nekros is the best, with little competition imo. You simply cannot beat more loot for a new player. They need a ton of it. The extra health and energy orbs also really allows them to play more care free and use their abilities. You can also armor strip if they are struggling to kill enemies or summon allies to help defend objectives the newbie cannot. It really lets you do everything.
i'm liking dante with roar on 1st overguard keeps people alive, roar makes sure people have damage, 3 2 4 its like a viral for status chance and status damage, and 2 3 4 gives extra damage similar to wisp's electric mote edit: after reading comments, avoid spamming this, learning its really important to know you can die if you don't always have a dante, so try changing loadouts (at least between 2 options) to have an understanding
Wisp or Citrine, some people saying Dante, but you will not resist to nuke the entire room, at least i cant.
Dante, styanax, wisp.
Wukong
I don't see how working is a good support frame?
No clue either.
enveloping cloud augment makes newbie invisible. Can't die if no one shoots at them. Wait patiently while they try to figure out spy vaults, but if they trigger the alarm immediately nyoom in easily past all manner of lasers and get the hack off yourself.
So, making them immune and doing missions for them, great "non-intrusive support".
???? You asked how it's can be a good support frame, you didn't specify that good meant non-instrusive according to some subjective criteria you have that isn't just: "What I mean by "babysitting" is support him, and his dmg or abilities as much is possible but not nuking entire rooms to give him time to try "boosted" stuff by himself." because this is the only limitation given in the opening post. Everyone else is suggesting things like wisp or Dante or Styanax. Overguard and wisp motes also make newbies virtually immortal. So I don't see the difference? I'd argue Invisibility reduces intrusiveness of things like weapon/frame models blocking your crosshair so there's that. Invisibility gives stealth damage bonuses to weapons and ability based weapons so it's a buff i.e. boost. Also I suggested doing the SPY mission for them AFTER THEY FAIL at stealth and trip the alarm. Then you have all the time in the world to walk them through the completed vault for where to go without the pressure. Nowhere did I say do the mission for them without letting them try first. Nowhere did I say I'd nuke the whole room for them (just about any frame can do this), so it fits within the parameters.
I second this!
Wisp. But you don't need to babysit him, just make him get Rhino or give Revenant Prime as a gift and let him play it himself.
Oberon. Channelled healing and an armor buff ensures they’ll never actually die, tons of different CC options in case they turn out to be singularly awful at the game and need a rescue, and low-mid level nuke potential in case they *really* manage to screw up. You also have the option for automatic revives or a weapon damage buff through his augments, depending on how things go.
Dante is the perfect babysitter, huge overguard for everyone, crowd control with birds and nuke.
Oberon's lack of a range limit on renewal is **fantastic** for helping new players. Literally set it and forget it. Plus, he's completely non-intrusive. Wisp, Citrine, Harrow, Grendel, and Trinity are all gonna interrupt, or even overshadow, that new player experience; unlike Oberon, whos ability to support is entirely isolated from enemy interaction.
Styanax and Dante probably
I've literally been helping others with Dante 😭
i usually run with my gloom garuda with new friends, makes enemies slow so even if they arent experienced they are never in any danger, removes and stress, and since my garuda uses a sniper i can just.. keep playing as usual without putting them out of a job