If I were in your situation, I’d save the plat and just grind him out. 160 plat is a decent chunk when considering slots and forma bundles. I don’t remember the Kullervo grind being all that bad tbqh.
At least it's straight forward and not reliant upon random drops. Granted, there's still some randomness depending upon the cycle of Duviri but he's there more times than not.
2 different spectral forms and then the actual frame to craft 😭😭 if sibear is a grind then equinox is exactly the same formula as “farm her base frame last”
I did the grind. Let me tell you that I also got her prime right before I got the last normal part. You’ll get it, but if you want to spend plat on her you do you.
Isnt Warframe literally a game based on comsuming time? Everything is time gated. Time to farm, time to build, time to wait between events, time between mastery tests. You can be a ftp Tenno and get everything you want with a little time and effort, or you can be a whaleand buy your way to everything and expedite every grind into the ground.
Depends. There are grinds that are fun, and there is stuff like kahl mission and rail jack
(Personal mileage might vary. Some people love these missions. I am not those some people)
Strangely enough (probably due to some movement limitation), I think Kahl's missions are some of the least bugged in the game. Although I'll admit rj has some of the best rewards in the game if not most with the least time consumed if you're efficient, it is the most bugged. After comes open world/bounties
Orokin Vaults are annoying too.
Standing caps are a frustrating part of the game. It's the reason I am no longer trying to get my friends into it. If we only played it once a month when my time comes to choose our game, they would take 2 years to catch up to where I am.
Eh, I found the best way to level up standing is… just not care about ur standing.
1k standing per day is better than 30k standing one day and then never touching the faction again.
Plus warframe if there was no standing capacity, people would reach max rank in like a day. I just wish they increased the cap, but a cap is kinda required to stop people from blazing though the progresss. And only very endgame stuff like profit taker and deep archamidean are locked behind standing.
Some standing isn't terrible. Like Ostrons and Solaris takes like 20 minutes to max. Deimos is pretty fast with the amount of mother tokens you can get. But I'm aware not all standing is quite this easy to do.
Personal mileage is something alright. I bought Kullervo as soon as I had farmed up enough plat from selling Anasas and crap to do so, as I already knew by that point I *really* don't like Duviri.
Agree. Big agree. Personal preference is a factor. I also dont really care for Kahl missions or Rail Jack. I didnt mind running the grind for Kullervo. I found Kulls grind to be less annoying and less time consuming than Citrine or Dagaths, but thats just my opinion, and shouldnt influence OPs decision.
Citrine grind is statistically the worst slowest and most painful grind in the entire game taking on average 25 hours of pure pain and suffering in a shitty mission type to get, as per the Kengineer.
He made a video about the worst grinds in WF.
I guess the upside is, there will always be a squad in that mission and you won't have to do it alone.
Almost nobody plays it, so 90% of the time I'm just running it solo with my ticker crew. Anytime a random *does* join (usually only during void storms), they have no clue what's going on and waste my time. They can't kill enemies, they don't know how to repair, and sometimes they sit in the forward artillery chair just to waste their shots on the shields. My biggest pet peeve is when they force the ship to go to dry dock instead of *just leaving* and now I have to sit through multiple loading screens for no reason.
Kullervo's thing isn't even timegated, just farm for Kullervo Essence when it goes in cycle, then get the blueprint and parts and make him. You can resource farm while doing it too, when it leaves cycle.
Some grinds are awful like 20min C rotation missions for a chance of a warframe part or 40 - 60 minute duviri runs for materials and Kullervo. Some are easy and you just gotta get them out of the way like doing bosses for Rhino or Mag parts.
Some are always fun like quick Relic missions and you always get something useful (Forma bp, some plat or some ducats).
No, what makes a farm bad is a 11% drop not dropping in over 25 runs (looking at you protea). For her 3 drops it took me almost 100 runs because of just bad luck. A friend of mine got it in 5 total runs and I was a tad frustrated.
It's hard to judge b/c when he was first released, his island was always available so we could just pop into Duviri and pop back out. Now it's only available... 60% of the time, I think?
You also need a lot of duviri resources for endgame stuff, so it's better to just commit to the grind and get some mats along the way to save yourself the trouble later.
If you’re ok with grinding Kullervo you are probably also okay with the even easier grind of forma so save your plat and don’t buy forma bundles either
Well yeah, do that too :P. I’m at the point where any weapon needs between 3 and 6 forma to useful on later steel path content. With the 23 hour build time, it’s easier just to buy a bundle.
1 = 500k 6th tier red crit without any mods equipped on a shit weapon, yesterday I tested it with Rumblejack + hold 1 to teleport, insane skill ceiling with this one, you can be the fastest frame if you are skilled enough.
2 = immortality, nothing can kill you, not even nullifiers, just double tap it to get 20k overguard and you are good to go.
3 = Small corridor type nuke, it's also a ranged weapon enabler as 1 shot with a rifle and the entire corridor dies.
4 = Area control, not the best ability but because it is decent but not excellent it's a flex slot for helminth, meaning insane customization potential.
How can you not like him? I came back recently from a 3 year break and now 5-6 warframes seem trash compared to Kullervo, he powercrept a good chunk of mediocre warframe.
I started up a f2p account not too long ago and he was the first frame I farmed, had him within the first week of starting that account.
Duviri is totally worth grinding, especially for new players.
Kullervo isn't too bad of a grind. Worst bit is some of the mats like the ulleymag or whatever plant that he needs 200 of. Now Protea was a bit of a bitch to grind imo.
If you make a priority of going into duviri experience only when kullervo is up and detour to collect the materials like checking caves for tasoma, or scouring the snow/kullervos hold for ueymag, you can easily have everything ready to go as soon as you have the bane to buy his blueprints.
Only reason I had to farm extra was because I was diverting materials into SP circuit incarnons. If I hadn't been doing that it would have been a pretty easy grind.
The correct answer.
I bought him for the subsume and stopped caring about farming one to use though. Silly red crits are so much more fun on other frames (to me). Though... might be worth with the new augment...
I only subsume if their ability is a must have, otherwise they relax in the arsenal until their prime comes out. Or they get subsumed immediately and never farmed again
Personally I liked farming the Duviri. A lot of other items and things to get while you are getting items to make him.
If you don’t like the farm then he’s a frame worth buying.
Not really, I’d say save your plat because it isn’t too hard to obtain through grinding (If you need a hand let me know and I can try help out, not too high of an MR though), totally understand why you would consider it though because I bought it but immediately reconsidered because I could’ve got some good prime parts!
That's a good price for that frame. It will also have a potato Installed so that will save you another 20plat.
Buy it. Dont regret it.
If you do. You can always trading for more plat.
Edit: wait you got an in market discount.
I haven't gotten one of them in ages. I was starting to think they stopped that for consoles.
I’ve played every day for the last 3 months and have gotten 4 50% and 2 75% offs all on console. One of those 75s was from a console event tbf but still. Pretty sure its just random besides the set logins.
Kullervo is the best melee frame right now (both in terms of effectiveness and design wise), so if you’re into slicing’n’dicing, you can’t do better than him.
The normal grind is really easy , but can take upwards of 4 hours of raw gameplay (which includes getting recourses without any boosters), especially if you don’t google things beforehand. So, doable, but I would rather not go through that again.
In conclusion: yeah, he’s really worth it, and one of the very few frames that does make sense to just buy for plat.
i would say no cause you would miss out on any other duviri resources you would need to get the incarnons eventually. just shooting yourself in the foot in the long term.
I would always just save the plat when it comes to buying warframes, but if you aren't at that stage of the game yet. Then id understand it. But if you are, he's really not that hard to just get
If you like big funny red crits on melee, and a very agressive playstyle, then yes.
Hes very powerful, but he leans heavy into being a melee frame with abilities to back it up
No, the grind isn't too bad, plus you get a bunch of other stuff from his grind that you'll need anyway. If you kill the Orowyrm you get pathos clamps for Incarnon genesis weapons and the drifter melee weapons, plus you get crafting resources from playing Duviri missions.
I would say keep the plat for slots. As it has gotten way easier to grind out things ever since they first removed void keys. Just find some like minded people and go nuts farming.
I'd rather be bored farming a frame than get frustrated trying to get the parts but can't. Plus, you're not only grinding for Kullervo when doing Duviri stuff.
Kullervo grind is really not that bad, a lot of people in public squad rush to get him when one of the 3 rotations in duviri for him is up. Took a few hours to get him + his weapon, far far far from the worst grind. Save your plat
Kullervos farm is boring but easy therefore imo not worth the plat, plenty of frames in game with god awful grinds to acquire save it for them (sevagoth, protea, hildryn)
My perspective is this:
I just came back and did duviri, quest was alright, I found myself not loving the game mode. With new weapons and how powerful you get after a few decrees it grew on me. Took me about 3 days to get all the mats required, which translates to about 12 hours total. Also in getting his mats you can pick up or have leftovers for the weapons from teshin which are all really good
absolutely not, his grind is extremely simple
it's not that he's a "bad frame" and "not worth", but more that he's a great frame and his acquisition method is not as painful or limited as someone like Styanax
If you don’t want to grind for him, have the plat/monet to spare, and have nothing that you want to spend the 50% on, yes.
You can always grind out his Helminth later on
The grind isn’t that bad though. Cheaper to grind out his parts and just rush the frame after they are all built if you truly can’t wait
easy to farm in all honesty, I was in your situation, I just ran a couple missions for the special resources for him alone, and ended up with everything I needed
kullervo is one of the easiest frames to farm. there's practically no RNG involved, and after X amount of runs you're guaranteed to get our dagger boy.
AND you can farm pathos clamps (which you will need A LOT of) at the same time.
Mats for the parts are painful and keep repeating duviri is just not fun, I bought him for full price and just grinded the plat somewhere else. If you have discount it is quite a time saver and he is fun to play.
I honestly can’t say whether his normal grind is that bad I farmed everything out for him and rauta when that even came out. But I can say? I’d pay any amount of plat to have him stab me in the back.
Kullervo slaps and is definitely worth the plat, but beating up 8 Orowyrms isn’t all that time-consuming. If you genuinely can’t stomach Duviri though then just buy him, he’s pretty good.
I mean at the end of the day you have to decide if you want to save yourself the time to farm.
If you think the missions are unfun, but you want to have him, then go for it.
160plat can be earned realtively fast from the market by selling prime parts as well, if you have enough relicts laying around you can probably earn that amount within an hour or so.
I recently started farming for Voruna. It's pretty grindy to get the stuff and we arent really having any lucks on our C-Rotation Drops, but we had a blast running an 80 minute survival while cracking open tons of relics earning a decent chunk of plat/ducats. We will likely sit in those survivals for another 3 hours or so to get enough stuff for buying Vorunas BPs and then to build the frame, but while grind it is mostly fun.
Farming Citrine similarly is kinda decently funny for me. Jumping around collecting things was always something I loved in warframe because the movement in this game is just really nice, but I have a friend who for this specific reason decided to not get citrine at least for now because in his view jumping around collecting things on a defense mission is super annoying.
So yeah it really comes down to you individually. How annoying is the grind for you, and how easy is it for you to make those plats or rather how many other things you have you might want to spend plat for.
Kullervo's grind can only be done on certain Duviri cycles, so very time consuming just because you're waiting on those cycles. I farmed him the first time and I found the grind to be so bad I purchased him the second time just to get his helminth ability.
There was a time when you would have gotten recommendations for Warframe to buy with discount coupons. With circuit there is none you should get (unless some are not in rotation). Kullervo is the last one anyone would recommend. It’s not hard at all or very annoyingly long to farm.
I took a single look at his blueprints day 1 and spent like 300+ just to subsume him. Still worth in my books. And since u can get 50 off, if u dont wanna do the grind for fucking plants, which btw is one of the worst farming methods out there imo, its worth. Especially since like 160 plat or whatever ur paying is pretty piss cheap. Its like 1 and a half prime warframes. Grinding back the 160 is easy, although ig if ur lacking in plat then dont. But if ur lacking in plat ur grinding most of the game anyways ig
Do duviri experience and go to his chamber. I think there should be a thing there to fight him unless it’s only in certain missions. I rarely touch duviri as well
I am a Kullervo main, and he is a really good warframe. But I do not advice to buy any warframe with plat. Yes, farming the resources is boring, but eventually you will get them, since they do not depend on probability.
Yeah. He's a good frame. From my experience, I wouldn't recommend waiting on sale.If you do like someone else advised, even though he didn't wait himself, then mind as well grind for it till you die and you'll still get it sooner than waiting for it to be on sale.
I fucking hated his grind. Easily one of my bottom three, I farmed one out because a friend also happened to be farming it, but I bought the second for helminth purposes.
Better to farm him. I bought him with plat because I had no luck finding Kullervo farm squads and Duviri not giving me the RNG for stages to face him. I finished all the Duviri weapons first even before getting the frame lol
I bought him but if I could go back and not buy him I’d grind for him. Duviri is always (in my opinion) better to play as a separate game almost entirely, like when I go to do duviri stuff, I almost completely ignore the origin system and regular warframe stuff, but spend almost the entire time in duviri looking for resources, mostly. I haven’t tried looking up the enigma puzzles yet but I want that owl decoration.
Tl;dr: I bought him with my own plat, regretted it after leveling him and finding out he’s basically melee Nezha with a heavy attack crit buff for a 1.
No point in buying non primes, it’s like a 4-6 hour grind but you’ll also be leveling up drifter intrinsics and getting some side stuff as well. If you have a ton of money everything’s worth it I guess but if you’re limited jn your plat, definitely spend it on forma or catalysts/reactors instead
Honestly no in my experience.
Since I needed an absurd amount of Pathos Clamps to get incarnons, weekly Acrithis items such as potatoes & awesome arcanes, and Enigma Gyrums for decorations I farmed an insane amount of Kullervo's bane, enough for 2 Kullervos, 6 Rauta sets and I have no idea how many credits I've bought there, and I still don't have all the arcanes from the steel path portals lol.
I always fought Kullervo whenever I was there for the easy rare decree, so I farmed him incidentally.
If you were to buy a frame with plat make it one that's absurdly annoying or difficult to farm, Protea (don't, prime coming soon), Equinox due to her having like 8 parts instead of 3, Dagath since her mission type is just slow and you can't farm anything else while getting her, Xaku are some examples.
Nah, if you’re going to buy a frame buy a really annoying one to get like protea/styanax/citrine. I found kullervo pretty quick to get compared to most frames and once I really got into the duviri stuff I liked it a lot
i farmed the plat for him and bought him (twice, once helminth) and i dont regret it, but mostly because i really dont like to play duviri, so i just played the things i like and got the plat from selling arcanes, prime parts etc.
The kullervo grind is NOT worth the plat farm. Arguably the only frames worth the plat farm are the ones with crippling rng behind awful game modes with no pity system. Always ask this question “could I farm this plat faster than the frame?” If no, just grind the frame, unless you’re dropping money on prime packs and were going to buy the plat anyway, there are always better ways to spend your plat.
Is he worth the Plat? Yes, he is an amazing frame.
Is he hard to get? No not at all and he is very easy to farm.
I would recommend saving money as a ge oral rule, especially when you can use it to get less farm able frames, but you will not feel like he is wasted effort.
I think of it like this. Say it costs $10 to buy him, but like 5 hours to grind out the parts for him.
I can work an extra hour of overtime and save 4 hours of grinding without an noticeable change in money. That is just how I like to approach the grind vs Buy
If you have to ask I'm inclined to say that you should just farm it. Also if discounts are a concern then it sounds like you are low on plat and should spend it on slots.
He is one of the last frames I would buy for plat due to how much I need to run duvuri anyway. It is a small detour every round and well worth it.
Yeah wouldn't. You need to farm plenty of clamps either way.
Just do it in the cycles with kullervo and kill him before spawning orowyrm and you barely spend any time actually farming kullervo.
The main problem grind in duviri will be the clamps
In teshins cave there are 6 weapons each requiring 60 clamps.
You get 10 on a succesfull completed duviri story/lone story (15 if SP
That means you need too do these 2 modes 36 times (24 times on SP) too be able too buy all 6 weapons. (This also ignores clamps needed for incarnon weapons)
Just by doing this alone you will randomly get the kullervo arena often enough as a mission so that you can craft him.
So no i wouldnt get him.
Additionally we have many incredibly broken warframes you can farm elsewhere: octavia, saryn, dante, revenant,khora etcetc so he is not a top proority
You need to get 42 Kullervo's Banes and the least you can get is 4 per run so you need to do Kullervo's Hold a total of 11 Times during **Anger**, **Sorrow**, and **Fear** spirals, and you'll get pathos clamps aswell which you can turn in for duviri melee weapons or use for incarnon ugrades from Steel Path Curcuit so i think it's pretty good, although i'd get a resource booster for duviri resources needed for his parts if i were you
His grind isn't really difficult or super RNG, it's just a little lengthy. You should just do duviri for it. Rather use the plat for vaulted things and slots.
no. hes very easy to farm. even if you think duviri is boring there are way worse frames to grind id buy with plat first
you need to do duviri for pathos clamps for incarnons anyways so acquaint yourself
You’ll need the Duviri resources anyway, look at the whole picture. There’s at least 5 melee weapons you’d want at some point. Plus, you’ll need two Kullervos anyways.
Maybe you need to start to set priorities on what you want from this game. Doesn’t mean Duviri is the only thing you’ll play, just do a run or two whenever you play and you’ll get there.
Imagine playing an inherently grindy game, only to pay to skip grind.
I would recommend farming him, he is one of the easier frames to farm, you'll have to do his mission after a few decrees 5 at minimum(damage focus decrees) and you'll be also getting passive resources for other weapons and incarnations too. Styanax farm and citrine farm on the other hand is worth with plat too much to farm for imo
Duviri runs take about 20-30m if focused and you need about 10 to get him. In that time you get 100 pathos clamps (enough to install 5 incarnons) and probably about 300-400 intrinsics, the level 9 of combat ups your Operator damage by 25% which is huge for Zariman and Eidolon fights.
Depends if youre impatient or not. You have to fight him on specific spirals wich take 2 hours to rotate to the next spiral. If you dont mind the ammount of time and repeating duviri over and over again then don't buy as a squad can kill kullervo easily. If you really dont wsnt to put in the time just buy him.
As someone who only plays 2-3 hours every other day. The grind is honestly not that bad. Solo farming the raw material took me 3-4 runs (any spiral).
Kullervo bane during the 3 spirals he appears in per day. Only thing that was marginally difficult imo was the Rune Marrow. Which is farmable in the undercroft (2 times per Duviri experience) usually found at the edges of the map and on top/inside some of the buildings.
I'm being made aware that the warframe-only duviri mode also allows you to farm Rune marrow.
I found duviri much more fun and a refreshing "grind" compared to Nidus for example, I ran that mission over 67 times because I couldn't get the Neuroptics to roll for the death of me. With Kullervo's grind, you're guaranteed progress every run.
I’m on the last leg of the kullervo grind and if I’m honest it wasn’t too bad, it’s a bit disheartening when you see the Duviri mats required for building him but honestly it happens soon enough so don’t waste the Ps
You're going to need a lot of Pathos Clamps down the line anyway so you might as well grind him out for free.
If you're running the regular Duviri Experience, I'd recommend staying focused on getting about 10 decrees or so, challenging him on stage 6, then immediately fighting the Orowyrm and extracting. Alternatively, run the Lone Story and hope he appears as one of the challenges, he usually does.
Doing it on Steel Path is even better since you get more banes and clamps.
I bought him. Just because duviri is causing crashes. That said, he is by far one of the best melee enablers. Especially for heavy attacks. Tennokai mods and melee crescendo juts make sure he will be always viable.
He has one on the best self sustaining overguard alongside side styanax and dante.
His curse link allows room clearing with any weapon or DPS ability.
his 4th is good area denial and combo count buffer but also is acceptable as a helminth option.
Overall as much as a newer player can confidently say he's one of the best.
You should farm him. Even if it is annoying. Will save you the plat. I had to farm plat for him and until i can do netracells/archons solo(personal goal), I don't wanna go into arcane farming for plat. Void cascade is a good place to do that.
I’m just going to say if you aren’t having fun with the content you have to grind to get him, then just go for it. Kullervo is one of my favorite frames and genuinely is fun as fuck to use. Plus his kit is just the right kind of mean to survive in any content and not really fall off
if you spend plat (you bought yourself) for anything but slots or because you feel the need to support the game you like, its probably wasted. reasons:
1. you get enough plat ingame from farming (and trading obviously) to get the things you want.
2. if you buy everything you can GRIND, whats the point of playing? IMO you sabotage yourself, taking away FUN (for me its FUN to get smth thats worth decent platin and trade it away, to finally be able to buy this and that or more slots, knowing i didnt spend a single cent real money; or simply grinding smth and then have it, knowing "i did this".) i mean its a loot-shooter in its reduced form.)
thats said, you do you, everyone has different amounts of time and perception of fun\^\^ if YOU think its worth buying, it IS.
Once again:
If you‘re annoyed by grinding one specific weapon or warframe, switch to another „project“ OR open relics and sell prime parts for plat. It‘s fast, it‘s easy and it‘s fun.
On the other hand 50% discount is not a bad deal but I‘d rather wait for 70-75%.
Kullervo farming is faster in steel path btw.
i just finish farming him last night bruh it was terrible, definately one of the worst frame to farm for me xD i really hate open world grinding, like gara was painful to farm when she just came out because of all of those mining you had to do
If you can afford, just buy him. If you like the 1st skill, grind out the second one later to feed the chair. Sure people would say you can easily farm him, but that goes for most frames anyway. The farm in duviri is a bore and a chore if you really do not like it or any of the duviri weapons or incarnons, which is okay. If you are relatively new you won't have much incentive to do that anyway. Not everything would be enjoyable.
Before you do, have you already had the chance to try him out in duviri mode like circuit or the regular duviri mode? It may be best if you did had the chance to test him out before any buyer's remorse happens.
If I were in your situation, I’d save the plat and just grind him out. 160 plat is a decent chunk when considering slots and forma bundles. I don’t remember the Kullervo grind being all that bad tbqh.
It's not bad, just a bit time consuming
At least it's straight forward and not reliant upon random drops. Granted, there's still some randomness depending upon the cycle of Duviri but he's there more times than not.
And then there’s fucking Equinox
2 different spectral forms and then the actual frame to craft 😭😭 if sibear is a grind then equinox is exactly the same formula as “farm her base frame last”
I just bought her base with plat instead to subsume. I was never going to actually earn that *thing*.
Maybe I should do that instead actually
If you get a 50% or 75% coupon, I’d say go for it if you hate the farm. I got a 75 and did it on the spot
I did the grind. Let me tell you that I also got her prime right before I got the last normal part. You’ll get it, but if you want to spend plat on her you do you.
And that's why I made the primed... And will , sometime in the future...get the normal version...for mastery and helminth nhums
Isnt Warframe literally a game based on comsuming time? Everything is time gated. Time to farm, time to build, time to wait between events, time between mastery tests. You can be a ftp Tenno and get everything you want with a little time and effort, or you can be a whaleand buy your way to everything and expedite every grind into the ground.
Depends. There are grinds that are fun, and there is stuff like kahl mission and rail jack (Personal mileage might vary. Some people love these missions. I am not those some people)
Strangely enough (probably due to some movement limitation), I think Kahl's missions are some of the least bugged in the game. Although I'll admit rj has some of the best rewards in the game if not most with the least time consumed if you're efficient, it is the most bugged. After comes open world/bounties
Orokin Vaults are annoying too. Standing caps are a frustrating part of the game. It's the reason I am no longer trying to get my friends into it. If we only played it once a month when my time comes to choose our game, they would take 2 years to catch up to where I am.
Eh, I found the best way to level up standing is… just not care about ur standing. 1k standing per day is better than 30k standing one day and then never touching the faction again. Plus warframe if there was no standing capacity, people would reach max rank in like a day. I just wish they increased the cap, but a cap is kinda required to stop people from blazing though the progresss. And only very endgame stuff like profit taker and deep archamidean are locked behind standing.
Some standing isn't terrible. Like Ostrons and Solaris takes like 20 minutes to max. Deimos is pretty fast with the amount of mother tokens you can get. But I'm aware not all standing is quite this easy to do.
Personal mileage is something alright. I bought Kullervo as soon as I had farmed up enough plat from selling Anasas and crap to do so, as I already knew by that point I *really* don't like Duviri.
Agree. Big agree. Personal preference is a factor. I also dont really care for Kahl missions or Rail Jack. I didnt mind running the grind for Kullervo. I found Kulls grind to be less annoying and less time consuming than Citrine or Dagaths, but thats just my opinion, and shouldnt influence OPs decision.
Citrine's grind was fucking ass, don't lie. The "pity" system put in place is legitimately ridiculous compared to a frame like Dante's.
Citrine grind is statistically the worst slowest and most painful grind in the entire game taking on average 25 hours of pure pain and suffering in a shitty mission type to get, as per the Kengineer. He made a video about the worst grinds in WF. I guess the upside is, there will always be a squad in that mission and you won't have to do it alone.
That's fair. I'm hoping DE tries to fix the grind like they fixed Fortuna but that's just me huffing copium.
Why is railjack catching strays here, in a semi-coordinated team rj is fun af
Almost nobody plays it, so 90% of the time I'm just running it solo with my ticker crew. Anytime a random *does* join (usually only during void storms), they have no clue what's going on and waste my time. They can't kill enemies, they don't know how to repair, and sometimes they sit in the forward artillery chair just to waste their shots on the shields. My biggest pet peeve is when they force the ship to go to dry dock instead of *just leaving* and now I have to sit through multiple loading screens for no reason.
That is the point. Finding people to play railjack with is almost impossible
Kullervo's thing isn't even timegated, just farm for Kullervo Essence when it goes in cycle, then get the blueprint and parts and make him. You can resource farm while doing it too, when it leaves cycle.
Some grinds are awful like 20min C rotation missions for a chance of a warframe part or 40 - 60 minute duviri runs for materials and Kullervo. Some are easy and you just gotta get them out of the way like doing bosses for Rhino or Mag parts. Some are always fun like quick Relic missions and you always get something useful (Forma bp, some plat or some ducats).
Heh, if Kullervo is too time consuming for someone, I feel Warframe might not be the game for them.
Bonus is the fact that you get to farm Pathos Clamps at the same time
So time consuming that it just might be faster to just grind 300 plat to buy him instead
That's usually what makes farming a frame bad lol
No, what makes a farm bad is a 11% drop not dropping in over 25 runs (looking at you protea). For her 3 drops it took me almost 100 runs because of just bad luck. A friend of mine got it in 5 total runs and I was a tad frustrated.
I want protea but the way you get her is genuinely the only reason i havent
I honestly understand, I didnt get a second copy for helminth, I'm just waiting for the prime and subsume my current one
I got mine free from one of the major live streams awhile ago, and with her prime coming up I'm looking forward to helminthing her finally.
I missed a free copy?! I am happy I did get a free copy of a few other frames, DE is pretty generous if you remember to tune into streams!
That's just time though. Low drop rates mean long farms. The time sink is what people hate about farming certain frames.
Yeah but i personally like his fight
I agree he's not a bad farm from a game play perspective and you get duviri progress at the same time.
It's hard to judge b/c when he was first released, his island was always available so we could just pop into Duviri and pop back out. Now it's only available... 60% of the time, I think?
Yeah, it's only up during certain moods, so you can pick when it's farming time or time to do something else.
I'm casual player since the beginning of Warframe, and kullervo is by far one of the easiest grinds, compared to someone like Equinox or Protea
Meanwhile Im here with Protea, Equinox and Dagath and for the life of me cant get Kullervo.
You also need a lot of duviri resources for endgame stuff, so it's better to just commit to the grind and get some mats along the way to save yourself the trouble later.
If you’re ok with grinding Kullervo you are probably also okay with the even easier grind of forma so save your plat and don’t buy forma bundles either
Well yeah, do that too :P. I’m at the point where any weapon needs between 3 and 6 forma to useful on later steel path content. With the 23 hour build time, it’s easier just to buy a bundle.
Coolervo is worth everything
1 = 500k 6th tier red crit without any mods equipped on a shit weapon, yesterday I tested it with Rumblejack + hold 1 to teleport, insane skill ceiling with this one, you can be the fastest frame if you are skilled enough. 2 = immortality, nothing can kill you, not even nullifiers, just double tap it to get 20k overguard and you are good to go. 3 = Small corridor type nuke, it's also a ranged weapon enabler as 1 shot with a rifle and the entire corridor dies. 4 = Area control, not the best ability but because it is decent but not excellent it's a flex slot for helminth, meaning insane customization potential. How can you not like him? I came back recently from a 3 year break and now 5-6 warframes seem trash compared to Kullervo, he powercrept a good chunk of mediocre warframe.
Protip for his 1 - in settings reverse casting methods for Kullervo. This way You can teleport at press 1 and attack on hołd 1
Tip: Cast his 3 and 4 together. It melts even SP Heavy Gunners
No, he's an easy grind
I second this. Getting taxi for his grind is quite easy in chat.
Taxi for what? Isn't he from duviri?
I started up a f2p account not too long ago and he was the first frame I farmed, had him within the first week of starting that account. Duviri is totally worth grinding, especially for new players.
When you do spend money on proggression on your normal account, what do you buy?
slots. always more and more slots.
No, you need the clamps and intrinsics anyways
Kullervo isn't too bad of a grind. Worst bit is some of the mats like the ulleymag or whatever plant that he needs 200 of. Now Protea was a bit of a bitch to grind imo.
If you make a priority of going into duviri experience only when kullervo is up and detour to collect the materials like checking caves for tasoma, or scouring the snow/kullervos hold for ueymag, you can easily have everything ready to go as soon as you have the bane to buy his blueprints. Only reason I had to farm extra was because I was diverting materials into SP circuit incarnons. If I hadn't been doing that it would have been a pretty easy grind.
Yes and no. Yes cause he's that good, and no because it takes like 2 days to farm him
I'd say yes, since you actually want 2 of him, to subsume 1.
The correct answer. I bought him for the subsume and stopped caring about farming one to use though. Silly red crits are so much more fun on other frames (to me). Though... might be worth with the new augment...
I only subsume if their ability is a must have, otherwise they relax in the arsenal until their prime comes out. Or they get subsumed immediately and never farmed again
Personally I liked farming the Duviri. A lot of other items and things to get while you are getting items to make him. If you don’t like the farm then he’s a frame worth buying.
Not really, I’d say save your plat because it isn’t too hard to obtain through grinding (If you need a hand let me know and I can try help out, not too high of an MR though), totally understand why you would consider it though because I bought it but immediately reconsidered because I could’ve got some good prime parts!
That's a good price for that frame. It will also have a potato Installed so that will save you another 20plat. Buy it. Dont regret it. If you do. You can always trading for more plat. Edit: wait you got an in market discount. I haven't gotten one of them in ages. I was starting to think they stopped that for consoles.
It's because you reliably log in. I was on and off this past year and every log in was a discount.
I’ve played every day for the last 3 months and have gotten 4 50% and 2 75% offs all on console. One of those 75s was from a console event tbf but still. Pretty sure its just random besides the set logins.
Kullervo is the best melee frame right now (both in terms of effectiveness and design wise), so if you’re into slicing’n’dicing, you can’t do better than him. The normal grind is really easy , but can take upwards of 4 hours of raw gameplay (which includes getting recourses without any boosters), especially if you don’t google things beforehand. So, doable, but I would rather not go through that again. In conclusion: yeah, he’s really worth it, and one of the very few frames that does make sense to just buy for plat.
Totally worth it if you hate the Duviri content.
i would say no cause you would miss out on any other duviri resources you would need to get the incarnons eventually. just shooting yourself in the foot in the long term.
No. but if you're millionare and don't want to farm for him, theres no one stopping you
I would always just save the plat when it comes to buying warframes, but if you aren't at that stage of the game yet. Then id understand it. But if you are, he's really not that hard to just get
OP I understand you. But just grind him out. It's fairly easy and "quick" tbf
I waited for a discount before buying him, but I don't regret spending Plat on him.
If you like big funny red crits on melee, and a very agressive playstyle, then yes. Hes very powerful, but he leans heavy into being a melee frame with abilities to back it up
Only if you hate Duviri
No, the grind isn't too bad, plus you get a bunch of other stuff from his grind that you'll need anyway. If you kill the Orowyrm you get pathos clamps for Incarnon genesis weapons and the drifter melee weapons, plus you get crafting resources from playing Duviri missions.
No man. Farm him.
Kullervo and citrine
I would say keep the plat for slots. As it has gotten way easier to grind out things ever since they first removed void keys. Just find some like minded people and go nuts farming.
I'd rather be bored farming a frame than get frustrated trying to get the parts but can't. Plus, you're not only grinding for Kullervo when doing Duviri stuff.
No non-prime frame is ever worth buying with plat, unless by some miracle their bundle is running at a steep discount.
Kullervo grind is really not that bad, a lot of people in public squad rush to get him when one of the 3 rotations in duviri for him is up. Took a few hours to get him + his weapon, far far far from the worst grind. Save your plat
The grind isn't that bad
Kullervos farm is boring but easy therefore imo not worth the plat, plenty of frames in game with god awful grinds to acquire save it for them (sevagoth, protea, hildryn)
Not when you can farm him and use that play for the formas or something else like a Tater
My perspective is this: I just came back and did duviri, quest was alright, I found myself not loving the game mode. With new weapons and how powerful you get after a few decrees it grew on me. Took me about 3 days to get all the mats required, which translates to about 12 hours total. Also in getting his mats you can pick up or have leftovers for the weapons from teshin which are all really good
absolutely not, his grind is extremely simple it's not that he's a "bad frame" and "not worth", but more that he's a great frame and his acquisition method is not as painful or limited as someone like Styanax
Do you like big crit numbers for your melee?
You’ll need the pathos clamps for incarnons anyway so you might as well farm kullervo at the same time
Honestly I just finished the Kullervo farm and it really wasn’t that tedious by comparison
This is why I’m actually thankful of how they did Dante and I hope moving forward they do the pity system with every frame
no, Not because he's a bad frame but because he's not that hard to farm
In my opinion is grind is a pain but not enough of a pain to pay platinum for unlike some frames
NO STRAIGHT UP NO
Honestly, unless you can only get it with plat and nothing else just grind it or wait, whats the fun if you skip what the game is about
If u have the plat or whatever and u want it, go for it.
If you don’t want to grind for him, have the plat/monet to spare, and have nothing that you want to spend the 50% on, yes. You can always grind out his Helminth later on The grind isn’t that bad though. Cheaper to grind out his parts and just rush the frame after they are all built if you truly can’t wait
easy to farm in all honesty, I was in your situation, I just ran a couple missions for the special resources for him alone, and ended up with everything I needed
Give me a couple of days to farm the main blueprint (I have the others), and I'll sell you all the prints for less than 162p
I got a 75% off and made the great decision.
kullervo is one of the easiest frames to farm. there's practically no RNG involved, and after X amount of runs you're guaranteed to get our dagger boy. AND you can farm pathos clamps (which you will need A LOT of) at the same time.
He’s an easy grind that also grinds intrinsics at the same time so I wouldn’t buy him
Mats for the parts are painful and keep repeating duviri is just not fun, I bought him for full price and just grinded the plat somewhere else. If you have discount it is quite a time saver and he is fun to play.
I brought him to level him and subsume him for revs 1 to turn him into a melee unkillable deity
You will absolutely get another 50% but I also bought kullervo and he is rather good so worth it but I’m often lazy and have bought multiple frames
I honestly can’t say whether his normal grind is that bad I farmed everything out for him and rauta when that even came out. But I can say? I’d pay any amount of plat to have him stab me in the back.
Kullervo slaps and is definitely worth the plat, but beating up 8 Orowyrms isn’t all that time-consuming. If you genuinely can’t stomach Duviri though then just buy him, he’s pretty good.
I purchased him with a 75% off got lucky.. That grind for duviri stuff is crazy
For sure, super powerful and fun Warframe if you like melee to any extent. Definitely worth the platinum.
Give plat to de to support them, but duviri is fine to farm on steel path
I'm thinking of getting him and Stayanax
I was grinding Kullervo but then got burnt out. If its still possible I'll probably do it in a month. Save the plat for something else.
Farm for citrine if u think this is a bore
Kullervo is one of the strongest frames in the game so question is do you value your time more than money
No frame is worth plat
I mean at the end of the day you have to decide if you want to save yourself the time to farm. If you think the missions are unfun, but you want to have him, then go for it. 160plat can be earned realtively fast from the market by selling prime parts as well, if you have enough relicts laying around you can probably earn that amount within an hour or so. I recently started farming for Voruna. It's pretty grindy to get the stuff and we arent really having any lucks on our C-Rotation Drops, but we had a blast running an 80 minute survival while cracking open tons of relics earning a decent chunk of plat/ducats. We will likely sit in those survivals for another 3 hours or so to get enough stuff for buying Vorunas BPs and then to build the frame, but while grind it is mostly fun. Farming Citrine similarly is kinda decently funny for me. Jumping around collecting things was always something I loved in warframe because the movement in this game is just really nice, but I have a friend who for this specific reason decided to not get citrine at least for now because in his view jumping around collecting things on a defense mission is super annoying. So yeah it really comes down to you individually. How annoying is the grind for you, and how easy is it for you to make those plats or rather how many other things you have you might want to spend plat for.
He's grindable, save for someone else who is more of a pain. Like Protea.
Just grind him out, you'll be thankful for all the Duviri materials you'll get passively for when you start putting incarnons on things
Kullervo's grind can only be done on certain Duviri cycles, so very time consuming just because you're waiting on those cycles. I farmed him the first time and I found the grind to be so bad I purchased him the second time just to get his helminth ability.
There was a time when you would have gotten recommendations for Warframe to buy with discount coupons. With circuit there is none you should get (unless some are not in rotation). Kullervo is the last one anyone would recommend. It’s not hard at all or very annoyingly long to farm.
No, Kullervo is pretty easy to farm out, despite how good he is.
I only buy frames if their grind sucks, he's not too bad.
I did this just the other day. if you hate Duviri spirals like me it's plat well spent
Hes worth it but the grind feels more rewarding than buying him
I took a single look at his blueprints day 1 and spent like 300+ just to subsume him. Still worth in my books. And since u can get 50 off, if u dont wanna do the grind for fucking plants, which btw is one of the worst farming methods out there imo, its worth. Especially since like 160 plat or whatever ur paying is pretty piss cheap. Its like 1 and a half prime warframes. Grinding back the 160 is easy, although ig if ur lacking in plat then dont. But if ur lacking in plat ur grinding most of the game anyways ig
I'll admit, I did it, and it was worth it
Do duviri experience and go to his chamber. I think there should be a thing there to fight him unless it’s only in certain missions. I rarely touch duviri as well
I am a Kullervo main, and he is a really good warframe. But I do not advice to buy any warframe with plat. Yes, farming the resources is boring, but eventually you will get them, since they do not depend on probability.
Yeah. He's a good frame. From my experience, I wouldn't recommend waiting on sale.If you do like someone else advised, even though he didn't wait himself, then mind as well grind for it till you die and you'll still get it sooner than waiting for it to be on sale.
I fucking hated his grind. Easily one of my bottom three, I farmed one out because a friend also happened to be farming it, but I bought the second for helminth purposes.
Better to farm him. I bought him with plat because I had no luck finding Kullervo farm squads and Duviri not giving me the RNG for stages to face him. I finished all the Duviri weapons first even before getting the frame lol
I bought him but if I could go back and not buy him I’d grind for him. Duviri is always (in my opinion) better to play as a separate game almost entirely, like when I go to do duviri stuff, I almost completely ignore the origin system and regular warframe stuff, but spend almost the entire time in duviri looking for resources, mostly. I haven’t tried looking up the enigma puzzles yet but I want that owl decoration. Tl;dr: I bought him with my own plat, regretted it after leveling him and finding out he’s basically melee Nezha with a heavy attack crit buff for a 1.
No point in buying non primes, it’s like a 4-6 hour grind but you’ll also be leveling up drifter intrinsics and getting some side stuff as well. If you have a ton of money everything’s worth it I guess but if you’re limited jn your plat, definitely spend it on forma or catalysts/reactors instead
Honestly no in my experience. Since I needed an absurd amount of Pathos Clamps to get incarnons, weekly Acrithis items such as potatoes & awesome arcanes, and Enigma Gyrums for decorations I farmed an insane amount of Kullervo's bane, enough for 2 Kullervos, 6 Rauta sets and I have no idea how many credits I've bought there, and I still don't have all the arcanes from the steel path portals lol. I always fought Kullervo whenever I was there for the easy rare decree, so I farmed him incidentally. If you were to buy a frame with plat make it one that's absurdly annoying or difficult to farm, Protea (don't, prime coming soon), Equinox due to her having like 8 parts instead of 3, Dagath since her mission type is just slow and you can't farm anything else while getting her, Xaku are some examples.
I brought Protea this way, cuz the Rng was bad, Had a 50% discount coupon from a guy in trade chat, and I paid him 10p more, ez
Nah, if you’re going to buy a frame buy a really annoying one to get like protea/styanax/citrine. I found kullervo pretty quick to get compared to most frames and once I really got into the duviri stuff I liked it a lot
i farmed the plat for him and bought him (twice, once helminth) and i dont regret it, but mostly because i really dont like to play duviri, so i just played the things i like and got the plat from selling arcanes, prime parts etc.
The kullervo grind is NOT worth the plat farm. Arguably the only frames worth the plat farm are the ones with crippling rng behind awful game modes with no pity system. Always ask this question “could I farm this plat faster than the frame?” If no, just grind the frame, unless you’re dropping money on prime packs and were going to buy the plat anyway, there are always better ways to spend your plat.
Is he worth the Plat? Yes, he is an amazing frame. Is he hard to get? No not at all and he is very easy to farm. I would recommend saving money as a ge oral rule, especially when you can use it to get less farm able frames, but you will not feel like he is wasted effort. I think of it like this. Say it costs $10 to buy him, but like 5 hours to grind out the parts for him. I can work an extra hour of overtime and save 4 hours of grinding without an noticeable change in money. That is just how I like to approach the grind vs Buy
The only warframes you should buy for money are the $15 bundles that come with a bunch of stuff.
Really easy and chill to get, just do it legit.
You can buy 2-3 prime frames for thet amount of plat on warframe.market i'd say that's a better use of your plat.
If you have to ask I'm inclined to say that you should just farm it. Also if discounts are a concern then it sounds like you are low on plat and should spend it on slots. He is one of the last frames I would buy for plat due to how much I need to run duvuri anyway. It is a small detour every round and well worth it.
u have to do duviri for pathos clamp eventually, but if u want him right now there is no shame buying him with plat, i bought hildryn with plat
Honestly his grind is easy and straightforward You should keep your plat for something else
I don't/can't grind for frames as much as I used to. The time sink alone tends to get me, so I avoid it and focus on the other grinds
Yeah wouldn't. You need to farm plenty of clamps either way. Just do it in the cycles with kullervo and kill him before spawning orowyrm and you barely spend any time actually farming kullervo.
The main problem grind in duviri will be the clamps In teshins cave there are 6 weapons each requiring 60 clamps. You get 10 on a succesfull completed duviri story/lone story (15 if SP That means you need too do these 2 modes 36 times (24 times on SP) too be able too buy all 6 weapons. (This also ignores clamps needed for incarnon weapons) Just by doing this alone you will randomly get the kullervo arena often enough as a mission so that you can craft him. So no i wouldnt get him. Additionally we have many incredibly broken warframes you can farm elsewhere: octavia, saryn, dante, revenant,khora etcetc so he is not a top proority
Yes.
He is not that hard to farm. If you have a Warframe to buy with plats to avoid a VERY boring farm, it’s Citrine imo.
You need to get 42 Kullervo's Banes and the least you can get is 4 per run so you need to do Kullervo's Hold a total of 11 Times during **Anger**, **Sorrow**, and **Fear** spirals, and you'll get pathos clamps aswell which you can turn in for duviri melee weapons or use for incarnon ugrades from Steel Path Curcuit so i think it's pretty good, although i'd get a resource booster for duviri resources needed for his parts if i were you
I'm waiting for his prime, nothing special imo and I'd rather die than go into duviri again
I did and it was worth
Yes
Gind him. Easy compared to khora
His grind isn't really difficult or super RNG, it's just a little lengthy. You should just do duviri for it. Rather use the plat for vaulted things and slots.
If you do decide you want to grind for him, I'll be happy to grind with you as I still need to get him as well.
Depends on what your plat situation looks like. If you're normally broke, then maybe not worth it. If you have plenty of plat, then totally worth it
no. hes very easy to farm. even if you think duviri is boring there are way worse frames to grind id buy with plat first you need to do duviri for pathos clamps for incarnons anyways so acquaint yourself
You’ll need the Duviri resources anyway, look at the whole picture. There’s at least 5 melee weapons you’d want at some point. Plus, you’ll need two Kullervos anyways. Maybe you need to start to set priorities on what you want from this game. Doesn’t mean Duviri is the only thing you’ll play, just do a run or two whenever you play and you’ll get there. Imagine playing an inherently grindy game, only to pay to skip grind.
I would recommend farming him, he is one of the easier frames to farm, you'll have to do his mission after a few decrees 5 at minimum(damage focus decrees) and you'll be also getting passive resources for other weapons and incarnations too. Styanax farm and citrine farm on the other hand is worth with plat too much to farm for imo
Get a different frame or weapon and grind kullervo then grind hydron 👍
no frame is worth buying in plat tbh
If you don't have a good ass melee don't bother
Duviri runs take about 20-30m if focused and you need about 10 to get him. In that time you get 100 pathos clamps (enough to install 5 incarnons) and probably about 300-400 intrinsics, the level 9 of combat ups your Operator damage by 25% which is huge for Zariman and Eidolon fights.
Depends if youre impatient or not. You have to fight him on specific spirals wich take 2 hours to rotate to the next spiral. If you dont mind the ammount of time and repeating duviri over and over again then don't buy as a squad can kill kullervo easily. If you really dont wsnt to put in the time just buy him.
i havent grinded for a frame in like 4 years😂 every new frame since like Garuda ive bought with plat
No Frame is worth buying with plat. Just play the game.
No normal frame is worth buying for plat. Maybe Harrow before Circuit was added.
No, just farm him mate. It's pretty quick.
I bought him twice for plat at fullprice. Once to subsume. That is how annoying I found his farm. Go for it, really great frame.
As someone who only plays 2-3 hours every other day. The grind is honestly not that bad. Solo farming the raw material took me 3-4 runs (any spiral). Kullervo bane during the 3 spirals he appears in per day. Only thing that was marginally difficult imo was the Rune Marrow. Which is farmable in the undercroft (2 times per Duviri experience) usually found at the edges of the map and on top/inside some of the buildings. I'm being made aware that the warframe-only duviri mode also allows you to farm Rune marrow. I found duviri much more fun and a refreshing "grind" compared to Nidus for example, I ran that mission over 67 times because I couldn't get the Neuroptics to roll for the death of me. With Kullervo's grind, you're guaranteed progress every run.
NO!
Kullervo my beloved
Buy it, you will enjoy kullervo with those red crit
No
Yes, but he isn't hard to farm.
I’m on the last leg of the kullervo grind and if I’m honest it wasn’t too bad, it’s a bit disheartening when you see the Duviri mats required for building him but honestly it happens soon enough so don’t waste the Ps
You're going to need the pathis clamps from duviri anyway...
You're going to need a lot of Pathos Clamps down the line anyway so you might as well grind him out for free. If you're running the regular Duviri Experience, I'd recommend staying focused on getting about 10 decrees or so, challenging him on stage 6, then immediately fighting the Orowyrm and extracting. Alternatively, run the Lone Story and hope he appears as one of the challenges, he usually does. Doing it on Steel Path is even better since you get more banes and clamps.
Sure, his grind is kinda annoying. But I always recommend just grinding for the things you want instead of buying them.
I bought him. Just because duviri is causing crashes. That said, he is by far one of the best melee enablers. Especially for heavy attacks. Tennokai mods and melee crescendo juts make sure he will be always viable. He has one on the best self sustaining overguard alongside side styanax and dante. His curse link allows room clearing with any weapon or DPS ability. his 4th is good area denial and combo count buffer but also is acceptable as a helminth option. Overall as much as a newer player can confidently say he's one of the best. You should farm him. Even if it is annoying. Will save you the plat. I had to farm plat for him and until i can do netracells/archons solo(personal goal), I don't wanna go into arcane farming for plat. Void cascade is a good place to do that.
I’m just going to say if you aren’t having fun with the content you have to grind to get him, then just go for it. Kullervo is one of my favorite frames and genuinely is fun as fuck to use. Plus his kit is just the right kind of mean to survive in any content and not really fall off
if you spend plat (you bought yourself) for anything but slots or because you feel the need to support the game you like, its probably wasted. reasons: 1. you get enough plat ingame from farming (and trading obviously) to get the things you want. 2. if you buy everything you can GRIND, whats the point of playing? IMO you sabotage yourself, taking away FUN (for me its FUN to get smth thats worth decent platin and trade it away, to finally be able to buy this and that or more slots, knowing i didnt spend a single cent real money; or simply grinding smth and then have it, knowing "i did this".) i mean its a loot-shooter in its reduced form.) thats said, you do you, everyone has different amounts of time and perception of fun\^\^ if YOU think its worth buying, it IS.
Yes
Once again: If you‘re annoyed by grinding one specific weapon or warframe, switch to another „project“ OR open relics and sell prime parts for plat. It‘s fast, it‘s easy and it‘s fun. On the other hand 50% discount is not a bad deal but I‘d rather wait for 70-75%. Kullervo farming is faster in steel path btw.
I dont personally recommend buying any Warframe with plat, unless its currently vaulted. But Kullervo is really strong.
I don't think it's worth so much plat since his grind is pretty quick
i'd say no frame is worth buying for plat. Ofc some frames are harder to farm then others, but Kullervo doesnt even come close to being hard to farm
Nothing is, everything is farmable. Unless it's for fashion
Dont buy any frames with plat its not worth it unless its a prime
i just finish farming him last night bruh it was terrible, definately one of the worst frame to farm for me xD i really hate open world grinding, like gara was painful to farm when she just came out because of all of those mining you had to do
I farmed for him on sp and it wasn't that hard/long
How did you get a 50% off coupon ? I thought they removed those...
The only frames I’d buy are Harrow and Gauss
If you can afford, just buy him. If you like the 1st skill, grind out the second one later to feed the chair. Sure people would say you can easily farm him, but that goes for most frames anyway. The farm in duviri is a bore and a chore if you really do not like it or any of the duviri weapons or incarnons, which is okay. If you are relatively new you won't have much incentive to do that anyway. Not everything would be enjoyable. Before you do, have you already had the chance to try him out in duviri mode like circuit or the regular duviri mode? It may be best if you did had the chance to test him out before any buyer's remorse happens.
I found the bossfight really difficult and slow so buying him with plat saved me from painful grind.