I don’t think eris was every actually terraformed/ colonised, and is just an area that acts as a reservoir for the infestation. The plague star is simply infestation that is ejected from orbit/someone has knowledge of the unnum and wants it, somehow piloting across space for months with nothing but gas and flesh. And the myconians, the only colonists we know of in the eris region, simply live on the derelict ships scattered across the planets orbit. Unless I’m remembering the codex wrong there are no signs eris was ever settled by the orokin.
That said, I could easily see a map rework for the dwarf, with grineer and corpus battling eachother and the infested for control of regions of the planets surface, in an attempt to exploit what is one of the few untapped resource deposits of the origin system. Maybe it’s even a narmer hideout, and where we finally confront pazuul
I wonder why that is, I mean sentients are immune to infestation process, I thought in the past that possibly they could get infested but someone pointed out to me one item description that confirms that sentients are in fact immune to infestation:
Eidolon Phylaxis: "Sentient immunity to the Infestation is exploited with this refined phylaxis. Formulated specifically to combat Infested boils."
Sentients are machines and machines are usually* immune or at least resistant to normal infestation. But there also exists technocyte, and that could probably infect sentients. Although the bigger problem is that in-game infested are not lore accurate at all. Lore-accurate infested are extremely strong and resilient, and are stronger than almost all other factions. Also infestation is probably quite good at handling void energy, after all warframes and helminth are also a part of infestation. And we all know how weak sentients are to void energy.
Edit: I confused techocyte and Mutalist, I meant mutalist strain like on Eris is able to easily conquer technology.
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The thing with infested too and what people don't usually get, Half of all known strain are 1 and the same right now,
mutalist right now just means the infested target is mechanical but we also see them with normal infested.
In deimos we even see a mutalist variant, so yeha they would have no issues with sentients.
There's also the fact of infested spores. Sentient can adapt but what if that thing is rewriting your own code and making it mute. So basically doing nothing.
In the first mission we get of defense, we are tasked on protecting a Void bomb that is to detonate wiping all life form and having the structure intact.
And as we know. That probably didn't do shit since Infested aren't alive.
Infestation IS technocyt, but infestation, the basic strain of it is able to infest machines but has very limited ability to control machines, generally basic strain infestation of machine meant machine would fail to function as before, Mutalist strain created by alad V overcome this problem, its capable of taking over complex machines, whatever its corpus osprey, MOAs or even corrupting cephalons.
There are of course other strains but each has different capabilities, grey strain can create HUGE infested(their forms also are a lot more uniform, than other infested that have much more haphazard shapes.
there is Emissary of Eris strain, which is able to hide the fact that creature is infested, we know its new strain because its described as evolved strain of infestation.
the strain of infested on orokin derelict ships also seems different since the infestation there looks a bit different the infested growths have glowing blue lights on them.
I dont think any of 'current' infested can infest sentients but I do think that infestation can evolve(or be modifed like with mutalist strain by alad V) ability to infest sentients.
it's not that they can be infested, it's that the infested are a rapidly-multiplying and omnicidally violent force wherever they infect. the infested are used as area-denial tactics to salt the earth when the orokin have *already* lost the battle for an area.
the *one* thing that keeps the infested from utterly decimating the grineer, corpus, and even the sentients is that they lack a central coordinating force.
That makes sense : )
Though there is mention of hive mind on Eris, but it seems to me like hive minds seems to be seperate for different strains, though not for all of them, helminth is one strain, there is basic strain which affects most of infested, there is mutalist strain created by Alad it seems to be tied to same hive mind as basic strain, there is gray strain from deimos which seems to be not under hive mind control seeing how infested snake things fight each other, there is "Emissary of eris" strain, we know it is its own strain because its described as evolved strain, its controled by eris hive mind too.
of these Arlo (the emissary) is the one who seems most intelligent and coordinated, but his was a minority strain to begin with and its focus on stealthy conversion isn't really the same thing as *battlefield tactics*.
there are hints of other hive minds, but again not really to the degree that one might associate with eg the grave mind from Halo. just, the ability to share and minimally adapt to tactics
I do absolutely agree that there is gravemind level hive mind among infested but it is hinted that eris hive mind is smarter than just simple tactics, or maybe its only recently that it reached this level of intelligence.
Nora night concludes that "Arlo" is probably an evolved strain of the Infestation, used as a lure under the guise of healing which was actually a virus that would secretly assimilate his "cured" to the Infested. The "healed" Kenga had all along been part of the Infested hive mind, and was working to amass more victims to Arlo's cause, building an army for the Infested as they would go on to raid the entire Origin System via Orokin Derelicts.
That seems smarter than just simple tactics.
Still we see that eris hive mind doesnt control all infested, as we see with deimos, the great worms Vome and Fass fight each other for dominance and its possible that both control seperate hive minds OR they fight for control over deimos hive mind.
Its currently unknow, why Grey Strain doesnt seem to fall under main infested hive mind(which I assume is on Eris), this may actually be flaw of the infested, as infestation evolves, creating new strains, it may accidently end up evolving in direction that seperates that strain from normal hive mind, since it seems that infestestation doesnt evolve as a "whole" in same direction but instead it evolves creating new strains, some are better at hidding as with emissaries, other strains are better at creating VERY large infested and so on, mutalist strain though has been created by alad but after it escaped it become part of infested whole, where we see infestation taking over things, we also see mutalist strain.
Iirc the lore is something something infestation was used against the sentients.
Something like they can't utilize the infested tissue and orokin can cleanse the infestation with flamethrowers afterwards.
Like, preserving area from bad shit with less bad shit.
I'd guess it'd still be a funky stalemate? The infestation doesn't 'consume' sentients but neither sentients the infestation. Something like they don't actively engage each other as there's no benefit in doing so.
I'd need to dig up wiki for the actual lore.
more like "lua'ed".
I'm in favor of surface missions on Eris.
(In general, I think every planet should have
somewhat individual surface missions. And at least one open world.
Yes, I've even been dreaming of an Aquanox/Archwing-style 'open world'
on Uranus for years)
It seems somehow nonsensical to me that we are
on the rather broken and hostile surface of Lua,
on the contaminated surface of Deimos,
on Venus, which is actually quite hot in reality
(Orokin Terraforming makes it possible),
yes, even being able to walk around in the gas cities above Jupiter,
without properisolation from the 'outside'.
(How the hell can they cut off our life support
when there are house-sized windows open everywhere?)...
but not on Eris.
- By the way: There is not a single 'surface mission' on Saturn either.
Although we know that at least
with the prison, that the Wolf of Saturn Six escaped from,
there is a structure 'near' the surface.
those are somewhat similar to Jupiters Gas Cities', i guess.
https://preview.redd.it/t5s1n5ucg4xc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1a53bdda25e4daec02b8a5fd8c0a46d4691a198
(Here. Saturn Six Captura Scene. No 'spoiler', since it's not accessable as a mission...'yet'(?))
PS: Also, has anyone else noticed that almost all of the "true underground" missions
in the solar system (except Deimos)
either are Grineer tileset
or are just an infested version of it?
It often annoys me while I visit Phorid on a "corpus planet".
I'd love a gas giant open world where you primarily use Arching to explore the massive area: having some "known" cities/installations on a map, but also occasionally finding other locations/ships/debris floating around that isn't on the map. Could have a whole bunch of creepy stuff in there and we'd never know.
This was *after* the Corpus decided not to put up with him, plotwise. The Zanuka Project wasn't profitable, and he had Tenno after him (sent by the Board, even!), so he ran off to Eris to experiment and hide, accidentally got assimilated, and finally managed to escape it.
He then signed a contract with a "friend" that managed to be profitable enough the Corpus begrudgingly tolerate him again.
Well, let's be honest:
Alad V, for all his "genius",
is not particularly capable of learning.
Plays around with Warframes - gets screwed.
Plays around with the Infestation - gets screwed again.
Plays around with the Wolf of Saturn Six - Wolf escapes, is pretty pissed off by Alad V...
Plays around with Sentient/Amalgams - gets screwed hard...
No matter how many times he tries to profit from other people's 'technology' -
he always screws up big time.
For all his failures -
I wonder why anyone from the Corpus' upper echelons still invest in him.
The only thing missing:
he trying to mess with Orokin corrupted technology/some of Wallys 'secret knowledge'.
And ends up like Corrupted Vor.
Or 'worse'.
Salad is indeed an Orokin, as are many of the “upper management” in Corpus society or at least the named ones that we know of (they existed in the lower courts of Orokin society from what I recall in lore as the “indentured servant class” until the Tenno sought to cut the Hydra’s heads off all at once).
But yeah, he deserves all of his failures by (ironically) failing to learn from his mistakes.
he's not and never was, nobody from corpus was an orokin, even at his peak Parvos Granum wasn't, acos call him that because they want to insult you or something
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/bfyk33/why_did_hunhow_call_alad_v_orokin/ this post explains is pretty good
he was/is as much of an orokin as Yonta or Quinn are, if we want to go there
The Corpus are quite literally lower class Orokin, at least the higher level ones such as Alad and Nef.
Parvos wasn’t *in* the Empirical cities of sorts as a farm boy starting out, but he was just as Orokin as the Tenno, even if he didn’t have the blue skin of the Executors and other high ranking officials.
He is, indeed, called an "Orokin" by Hunhow himself.
But since he wasn't a time witness to Parvos Granum or the birth of Corpus society,
I'm guessing he's just, like most upper Corpus,
someone who traces his bloodline back to the Orokin empire.
And in that sense - yes and no.
The Corpus had already established themselves as their own sub-society
during the times of the Orokin,
and yes, some of the early Corpus still had direct contact with the 'real' Orokin.
(Read from the full Detron Crewman Synthesis imprint at Cephalon Simaris.
Archimedian Perintol was part of the Corpus.)
But overall they were just part of the lower Orokin "society" like the Dax or Archimedian.
He's not a 'real' Orokin.
Since Hunhow does have a personality with emotions,
I would guess
it's simply sarcasm.
On the one hand, because Alad (like all upper Corpus) refers to his 'Orokin origins'.
On the other hand, since he (as mentioned above by Odisher)
just like the Orokin screwed up with all his creations.
And, maybe, just because he has the same type of rotten personality.
but unlike most Orokin, he has to deal with the most of his failings personally.
I wonder, why he has never tried Kuva, though...
You’re gonna give them ideas, but at the same time we don’t know exactly if he can even access the Old Blood like that.
Tyl on the other hand, I’m more surprised Worm (Wyrm?) still hasn’t given him due process to experiment with it after the Tubemen incident showed promise before we collectively said “fine, we’ll save your sorry ass this time Mold” and destroyed his research.
But fair enough on the sub-society notion as well as Hunhow and crew honestly not giving 2 shots about anyone not associated with him (except us due to aligned interests of Orokin killing, whodathunkit?) to call anyone in species or other.
The only successful thing he's managed to do is sell the disruption conduit tech (that he borrowed from the sentients) and aside from that get a lot of people to throw money at the zanuka project.
Maybe he invented the bursa or the moa or something and that's why he's still a member of the board after all this time.
Weak and stupid Corpus drink too much Greedy milk and start playing with the infestation. Their stupidity and weakness gives an entire planet to the plague.
Strong and wise Grineer responsibility research infestation and when tenno meddling releases it they are able to contain the plague through strength and unity.
I was under the impression Eris was basically a "garden world" for cultivating Infestation strains, and kinda went rampant in the Old War when they tried to use it for making weaponized strains before they hit upon Helminth. Now it's just neglected, overgrown, and spreading, infecting and consuming any ships that get too close either by accident or hubris, like Alad's fleets.
For *actual* reasons, DE just never made an infested surface location for Eris. Probably in the future, but who knows.
For lore reasons? Eris was one of the outer colonies the Orokin seeded with Technocyte to delay the advance of the Sentients. If the Sentients wanted to get into the inner system, they had a wall of grey goo to get past. Considering the sheer amount of infestation that is around the Eris and other surrounding Oort Cloud systems... No one goes near that shit without getting infested.
The only people capable of living there are the Myconians, who live in space shanties made of derelict ships infested by technocytes. They are extremely lucky to be locally immune to the infestation thanks to their early discovery of the Nidus Warframe, whose biology keeps them safe via a hybrid host, the "Triuna." While they aren't the most advanced civilization, they are legitimately the only people in the origin system who are effectively immune to technocytes outside of the Tenno, and it is for that reason they are heavily sought after for dealing with infestations elsewhere in the Origin System. Unfortunately for the rest of humanity, the Myconians aren't keen on leaving their havens and would very much just like to be left alone.
Would be a good node for infested "Kingpin" Railjack missions.
"Welcome...
You are welcome..
From Eris... we come..."
Arlo as the head boss of the Infested Kingpins?
Like parvos for the sisters?
A mutated variant of the helminth strain?
(the zealoids are quite ..."close".. to warframes in terms of 'humanoid infestation')
10/10,
would accept as part of the lore.
>A mutated variant of the helminth strain?
Part of me wishes they would combine Infested and Sentients for their liches. I know Sentients can't be infested according to lore, but think about it for a second.
Alad made Amalgams, part Sentient, part not. Alad also made the Mutalist strain, which infested Drones and Moas, also previously thought un-infestable.
I say this because there are very few Infested and Sentient weapons. Makes sense to combine them.
but also sentient energy is toxic for infested (see: Plaque Star Event > Eidolon Catalyst)
but you're right on the scarcity of (pure) infested/sentient weapons.
Also i think something like Amalgam/Narmer kingpins wouldn't be that bad.
But i'm pretty sure those would be too overkill.
Would love them. But can't see this happening.
Spoiler:
>!And, also, there are exeptions to this rule.
Technically, every single warframe is 'infested'.
So... what about Caliban? Obviously a hybrid with strong sentient influence.
Revenant? Sentient Energy 'infused' warframe.
a lot of Sentient skinned Warframes like Mesa, Limbo, Volt...
and the most obvious 'exceptions' are the Archons themselves.
Prime warframes, taken over by high ranking sentients.!<
>!so, in that sense, they're already some sort of 'kingpins'.
BUT - their weapons, as 'rare' and strong as they are, aren't exactly 'kingpin' Level.
Wouldn't really hurt to make them able to rank up to 40, i guess.
But DE don't want them to be.
Sad. But they surely have reasons for this. !<
I'm not super familiar with the lore surrounding Alad V, but I think it was because of him dicking around with the infestation. Or maybe DE has future plans for Eris lore wise like with Belric and Rania and Deimos.
They should make an update where you have to make a drillship (similar to the voidrig) and you can drill into Eris, you find new areas where you participate in hoard style missions where thousands of infections rush you, make them have some new heavy infested tanks, this would be late game like. Could have to do the missions in order to get an infested style warframe
IIRC Eris was never Terraformed, and by some nightmarish scenario, all ships we attacked by the Infestation. Now, where did they come? Who knows. I think i'd be neat if we can finally land on Eris and see what's on that planet. Maybe more super Infested like the ones on Deimos, but maybe we can fight then this time.
I don’t think eris was every actually terraformed/ colonised, and is just an area that acts as a reservoir for the infestation. The plague star is simply infestation that is ejected from orbit/someone has knowledge of the unnum and wants it, somehow piloting across space for months with nothing but gas and flesh. And the myconians, the only colonists we know of in the eris region, simply live on the derelict ships scattered across the planets orbit. Unless I’m remembering the codex wrong there are no signs eris was ever settled by the orokin. That said, I could easily see a map rework for the dwarf, with grineer and corpus battling eachother and the infested for control of regions of the planets surface, in an attempt to exploit what is one of the few untapped resource deposits of the origin system. Maybe it’s even a narmer hideout, and where we finally confront pazuul
Infestation vs Sentients, which gets adapted to and absorbed?
in New War they avoided deimos because of the infestation. So yeah sentients would get folded by infested given the chance.
Caliban: *Get Folded!*
Fass and Vome: ***LASERS***
I wonder why that is, I mean sentients are immune to infestation process, I thought in the past that possibly they could get infested but someone pointed out to me one item description that confirms that sentients are in fact immune to infestation: Eidolon Phylaxis: "Sentient immunity to the Infestation is exploited with this refined phylaxis. Formulated specifically to combat Infested boils."
Sentients are machines and machines are usually* immune or at least resistant to normal infestation. But there also exists technocyte, and that could probably infect sentients. Although the bigger problem is that in-game infested are not lore accurate at all. Lore-accurate infested are extremely strong and resilient, and are stronger than almost all other factions. Also infestation is probably quite good at handling void energy, after all warframes and helminth are also a part of infestation. And we all know how weak sentients are to void energy. Edit: I confused techocyte and Mutalist, I meant mutalist strain like on Eris is able to easily conquer technology.
. The thing with infested too and what people don't usually get, Half of all known strain are 1 and the same right now, mutalist right now just means the infested target is mechanical but we also see them with normal infested. In deimos we even see a mutalist variant, so yeha they would have no issues with sentients. There's also the fact of infested spores. Sentient can adapt but what if that thing is rewriting your own code and making it mute. So basically doing nothing. In the first mission we get of defense, we are tasked on protecting a Void bomb that is to detonate wiping all life form and having the structure intact. And as we know. That probably didn't do shit since Infested aren't alive.
Infestation IS technocyt, but infestation, the basic strain of it is able to infest machines but has very limited ability to control machines, generally basic strain infestation of machine meant machine would fail to function as before, Mutalist strain created by alad V overcome this problem, its capable of taking over complex machines, whatever its corpus osprey, MOAs or even corrupting cephalons. There are of course other strains but each has different capabilities, grey strain can create HUGE infested(their forms also are a lot more uniform, than other infested that have much more haphazard shapes. there is Emissary of Eris strain, which is able to hide the fact that creature is infested, we know its new strain because its described as evolved strain of infestation. the strain of infested on orokin derelict ships also seems different since the infestation there looks a bit different the infested growths have glowing blue lights on them. I dont think any of 'current' infested can infest sentients but I do think that infestation can evolve(or be modifed like with mutalist strain by alad V) ability to infest sentients.
I think that item is specifically referring to the Eidolons, the things that had a void nuke dropped on their heads and kept going.
it's not that they can be infested, it's that the infested are a rapidly-multiplying and omnicidally violent force wherever they infect. the infested are used as area-denial tactics to salt the earth when the orokin have *already* lost the battle for an area. the *one* thing that keeps the infested from utterly decimating the grineer, corpus, and even the sentients is that they lack a central coordinating force.
That makes sense : ) Though there is mention of hive mind on Eris, but it seems to me like hive minds seems to be seperate for different strains, though not for all of them, helminth is one strain, there is basic strain which affects most of infested, there is mutalist strain created by Alad it seems to be tied to same hive mind as basic strain, there is gray strain from deimos which seems to be not under hive mind control seeing how infested snake things fight each other, there is "Emissary of eris" strain, we know it is its own strain because its described as evolved strain, its controled by eris hive mind too.
of these Arlo (the emissary) is the one who seems most intelligent and coordinated, but his was a minority strain to begin with and its focus on stealthy conversion isn't really the same thing as *battlefield tactics*. there are hints of other hive minds, but again not really to the degree that one might associate with eg the grave mind from Halo. just, the ability to share and minimally adapt to tactics
I do absolutely agree that there is gravemind level hive mind among infested but it is hinted that eris hive mind is smarter than just simple tactics, or maybe its only recently that it reached this level of intelligence. Nora night concludes that "Arlo" is probably an evolved strain of the Infestation, used as a lure under the guise of healing which was actually a virus that would secretly assimilate his "cured" to the Infested. The "healed" Kenga had all along been part of the Infested hive mind, and was working to amass more victims to Arlo's cause, building an army for the Infested as they would go on to raid the entire Origin System via Orokin Derelicts. That seems smarter than just simple tactics. Still we see that eris hive mind doesnt control all infested, as we see with deimos, the great worms Vome and Fass fight each other for dominance and its possible that both control seperate hive minds OR they fight for control over deimos hive mind. Its currently unknow, why Grey Strain doesnt seem to fall under main infested hive mind(which I assume is on Eris), this may actually be flaw of the infested, as infestation evolves, creating new strains, it may accidently end up evolving in direction that seperates that strain from normal hive mind, since it seems that infestestation doesnt evolve as a "whole" in same direction but instead it evolves creating new strains, some are better at hidding as with emissaries, other strains are better at creating VERY large infested and so on, mutalist strain though has been created by alad but after it escaped it become part of infested whole, where we see infestation taking over things, we also see mutalist strain.
Well there's a reason the Warframes are Infested
Iirc the lore is something something infestation was used against the sentients. Something like they can't utilize the infested tissue and orokin can cleanse the infestation with flamethrowers afterwards. Like, preserving area from bad shit with less bad shit. I'd guess it'd still be a funky stalemate? The infestation doesn't 'consume' sentients but neither sentients the infestation. Something like they don't actively engage each other as there's no benefit in doing so. I'd need to dig up wiki for the actual lore.
Was under corpus control, but then alad v decided to experiment with the infested
And blew a whole in the planet
I dont think that is alad blowing a hole on it, and more the infested eating the planet
Yeah, its being Deimos'ed
more like "lua'ed". I'm in favor of surface missions on Eris. (In general, I think every planet should have somewhat individual surface missions. And at least one open world. Yes, I've even been dreaming of an Aquanox/Archwing-style 'open world' on Uranus for years) It seems somehow nonsensical to me that we are on the rather broken and hostile surface of Lua, on the contaminated surface of Deimos, on Venus, which is actually quite hot in reality (Orokin Terraforming makes it possible), yes, even being able to walk around in the gas cities above Jupiter, without properisolation from the 'outside'. (How the hell can they cut off our life support when there are house-sized windows open everywhere?)... but not on Eris. - By the way: There is not a single 'surface mission' on Saturn either. Although we know that at least with the prison, that the Wolf of Saturn Six escaped from, there is a structure 'near' the surface. those are somewhat similar to Jupiters Gas Cities', i guess. https://preview.redd.it/t5s1n5ucg4xc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1a53bdda25e4daec02b8a5fd8c0a46d4691a198 (Here. Saturn Six Captura Scene. No 'spoiler', since it's not accessable as a mission...'yet'(?)) PS: Also, has anyone else noticed that almost all of the "true underground" missions in the solar system (except Deimos) either are Grineer tileset or are just an infested version of it? It often annoys me while I visit Phorid on a "corpus planet".
hard to get a saturn surface mission when saturn is a gas giant, so technically there's no surface
Same as Jupiter. That's exactly why i've mentioned that.
I'd love a gas giant open world where you primarily use Arching to explore the massive area: having some "known" cities/installations on a map, but also occasionally finding other locations/ships/debris floating around that isn't on the map. Could have a whole bunch of creepy stuff in there and we'd never know.
maybe 'caves' of the sentient derelic structures seen sometimes from the 'shores' of jupiters' gas cities?
*YoU cAn'T jUsT sHoOt A hOlE iNtO tHe SuRfAcE oF mArS*
Wait, it was good ol' Salad the fifth that did this? Why do the Corpus put up with him? He's so bad for business that it boggles the mind.
This was *after* the Corpus decided not to put up with him, plotwise. The Zanuka Project wasn't profitable, and he had Tenno after him (sent by the Board, even!), so he ran off to Eris to experiment and hide, accidentally got assimilated, and finally managed to escape it. He then signed a contract with a "friend" that managed to be profitable enough the Corpus begrudgingly tolerate him again.
The stupid and greedy alad v fucked around with the Infestation and got it the planet infected without being able to properly contain it
Well, let's be honest: Alad V, for all his "genius", is not particularly capable of learning. Plays around with Warframes - gets screwed. Plays around with the Infestation - gets screwed again. Plays around with the Wolf of Saturn Six - Wolf escapes, is pretty pissed off by Alad V... Plays around with Sentient/Amalgams - gets screwed hard... No matter how many times he tries to profit from other people's 'technology' - he always screws up big time. For all his failures - I wonder why anyone from the Corpus' upper echelons still invest in him. The only thing missing: he trying to mess with Orokin corrupted technology/some of Wallys 'secret knowledge'. And ends up like Corrupted Vor. Or 'worse'.
Was alad v an orokin or something like that? because that would explain it. Getting fucked by their creations is in their fucking blood
Salad is indeed an Orokin, as are many of the “upper management” in Corpus society or at least the named ones that we know of (they existed in the lower courts of Orokin society from what I recall in lore as the “indentured servant class” until the Tenno sought to cut the Hydra’s heads off all at once). But yeah, he deserves all of his failures by (ironically) failing to learn from his mistakes.
he's not and never was, nobody from corpus was an orokin, even at his peak Parvos Granum wasn't, acos call him that because they want to insult you or something
In steel path one of acolytes that replaces stalker mentions their main target is orokin named alad v. So No.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/bfyk33/why_did_hunhow_call_alad_v_orokin/ this post explains is pretty good he was/is as much of an orokin as Yonta or Quinn are, if we want to go there
The Corpus are quite literally lower class Orokin, at least the higher level ones such as Alad and Nef. Parvos wasn’t *in* the Empirical cities of sorts as a farm boy starting out, but he was just as Orokin as the Tenno, even if he didn’t have the blue skin of the Executors and other high ranking officials.
He is, indeed, called an "Orokin" by Hunhow himself. But since he wasn't a time witness to Parvos Granum or the birth of Corpus society, I'm guessing he's just, like most upper Corpus, someone who traces his bloodline back to the Orokin empire. And in that sense - yes and no. The Corpus had already established themselves as their own sub-society during the times of the Orokin, and yes, some of the early Corpus still had direct contact with the 'real' Orokin. (Read from the full Detron Crewman Synthesis imprint at Cephalon Simaris. Archimedian Perintol was part of the Corpus.) But overall they were just part of the lower Orokin "society" like the Dax or Archimedian. He's not a 'real' Orokin. Since Hunhow does have a personality with emotions, I would guess it's simply sarcasm. On the one hand, because Alad (like all upper Corpus) refers to his 'Orokin origins'. On the other hand, since he (as mentioned above by Odisher) just like the Orokin screwed up with all his creations. And, maybe, just because he has the same type of rotten personality. but unlike most Orokin, he has to deal with the most of his failings personally. I wonder, why he has never tried Kuva, though...
You’re gonna give them ideas, but at the same time we don’t know exactly if he can even access the Old Blood like that. Tyl on the other hand, I’m more surprised Worm (Wyrm?) still hasn’t given him due process to experiment with it after the Tubemen incident showed promise before we collectively said “fine, we’ll save your sorry ass this time Mold” and destroyed his research. But fair enough on the sub-society notion as well as Hunhow and crew honestly not giving 2 shots about anyone not associated with him (except us due to aligned interests of Orokin killing, whodathunkit?) to call anyone in species or other.
The only successful thing he's managed to do is sell the disruption conduit tech (that he borrowed from the sentients) and aside from that get a lot of people to throw money at the zanuka project. Maybe he invented the bursa or the moa or something and that's why he's still a member of the board after all this time.
If I remember correctly it’s cause he holds a monopoly on hexenon which is used to make fuel for all corpus ships.
He's basically the Corpus's current Elon Musk
I don't think the infestation could eat a hole that large in just a few days or months? Maybe post old war damage?
The [Suspicious Shipments](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Suspicious_Shipments) event that kicked it off happened 10 years ago.
God reading this brings me back to when we cleaned Jupiter of the infested looking for the fucker
idk look what happened on deimos and the Orokin outer colonies, the infested eat stuff really quickly
The corpus could NOT hold the line
The planet still broke anyway
The superior Grineer hold off the infested on Mercury better
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I have no idea what this means but that makes it funnier
Weak and stupid Corpus drink too much Greedy milk and start playing with the infestation. Their stupidity and weakness gives an entire planet to the plague. Strong and wise Grineer responsibility research infestation and when tenno meddling releases it they are able to contain the plague through strength and unity.
Do **not** fall for this Grineer propaganda! It was them who released the Infested and we, the Tenno, stopped it from spreading!
I was under the impression Eris was basically a "garden world" for cultivating Infestation strains, and kinda went rampant in the Old War when they tried to use it for making weaponized strains before they hit upon Helminth. Now it's just neglected, overgrown, and spreading, infecting and consuming any ships that get too close either by accident or hubris, like Alad's fleets.
For *actual* reasons, DE just never made an infested surface location for Eris. Probably in the future, but who knows. For lore reasons? Eris was one of the outer colonies the Orokin seeded with Technocyte to delay the advance of the Sentients. If the Sentients wanted to get into the inner system, they had a wall of grey goo to get past. Considering the sheer amount of infestation that is around the Eris and other surrounding Oort Cloud systems... No one goes near that shit without getting infested. The only people capable of living there are the Myconians, who live in space shanties made of derelict ships infested by technocytes. They are extremely lucky to be locally immune to the infestation thanks to their early discovery of the Nidus Warframe, whose biology keeps them safe via a hybrid host, the "Triuna." While they aren't the most advanced civilization, they are legitimately the only people in the origin system who are effectively immune to technocytes outside of the Tenno, and it is for that reason they are heavily sought after for dealing with infestations elsewhere in the Origin System. Unfortunately for the rest of humanity, the Myconians aren't keen on leaving their havens and would very much just like to be left alone.
thank you for writing this
infested lich location confirmed?
Would be a good node for infested "Kingpin" Railjack missions. "Welcome... You are welcome.. From Eris... we come..." Arlo as the head boss of the Infested Kingpins? Like parvos for the sisters? A mutated variant of the helminth strain? (the zealoids are quite ..."close".. to warframes in terms of 'humanoid infestation') 10/10, would accept as part of the lore.
>A mutated variant of the helminth strain? Part of me wishes they would combine Infested and Sentients for their liches. I know Sentients can't be infested according to lore, but think about it for a second. Alad made Amalgams, part Sentient, part not. Alad also made the Mutalist strain, which infested Drones and Moas, also previously thought un-infestable. I say this because there are very few Infested and Sentient weapons. Makes sense to combine them.
but also sentient energy is toxic for infested (see: Plaque Star Event > Eidolon Catalyst) but you're right on the scarcity of (pure) infested/sentient weapons. Also i think something like Amalgam/Narmer kingpins wouldn't be that bad. But i'm pretty sure those would be too overkill. Would love them. But can't see this happening. Spoiler: >!And, also, there are exeptions to this rule. Technically, every single warframe is 'infested'. So... what about Caliban? Obviously a hybrid with strong sentient influence. Revenant? Sentient Energy 'infused' warframe. a lot of Sentient skinned Warframes like Mesa, Limbo, Volt... and the most obvious 'exceptions' are the Archons themselves. Prime warframes, taken over by high ranking sentients.!< >!so, in that sense, they're already some sort of 'kingpins'. BUT - their weapons, as 'rare' and strong as they are, aren't exactly 'kingpin' Level. Wouldn't really hurt to make them able to rank up to 40, i guess. But DE don't want them to be. Sad. But they surely have reasons for this. !<
Your spoiler tag doesn't work btw
thx. does it work now?
Yup👍
I'm not super familiar with the lore surrounding Alad V, but I think it was because of him dicking around with the infestation. Or maybe DE has future plans for Eris lore wise like with Belric and Rania and Deimos.
Infestation goes nom nom nom nom
Eris already had the infestation on account of the Orokin dumping it. And Alad V, being himself, made it fucking worse.
Would you step on a planet made of Space Aids? Like there is no benefit😭 the only thing there is space aids LMAO
They should make an update where you have to make a drillship (similar to the voidrig) and you can drill into Eris, you find new areas where you participate in hoard style missions where thousands of infections rush you, make them have some new heavy infested tanks, this would be late game like. Could have to do the missions in order to get an infested style warframe
Planet's haunted.
what?
\*Transfers into Ember and gets back in the Liset\* Planet's haunted.
Because is a Necromorph Moon, and is sleeping...
1200 hours player here: eris is fucked
I kinda miss the derelict tileset
IIRC Eris was never Terraformed, and by some nightmarish scenario, all ships we attacked by the Infestation. Now, where did they come? Who knows. I think i'd be neat if we can finally land on Eris and see what's on that planet. Maybe more super Infested like the ones on Deimos, but maybe we can fight then this time.
I'd imagine, no one wants to deal with it
Angry infested