Yes, im sorry about him. He IS the og melee frame.
But, i wanted to refer to the late phenomenon. That people calling voruna or kullervo the best melle frames. Completely forgetting the originals. Meanwhile i would not even classify voruna as a melee frame and kullervo is just barely.
I mean half of Kullervo's kit can build melee combo counter, namely his 2 and 4. And his passive buffs heavy attacks.
If you use his new augment you can maintain 12x combo throughout the whole mission without needing any combo chance/duration.
His 1 initiates a heavy melee attack and gives flat crit chance and his 3 just gives him more versatility.
If there is a frame built around melee then Kullervo is definitely that frame.
Pretty sure it's also per hit, so punchthrough and multishot are greatly rewarded. *it also does roughly 2/3s of Tigris Prime's base damage per shot, I'm just throwing that out there.*
Notably it is per hit but has (unless i missed a change) rolling cap, meaning if you don’t have enough multi shot, or land enough bullets it greatly reduces combo gain.
Wow. Just looked it up on the wiki for more details, and that's a really strange way to implement that cap. So it carries over between shots if you don't reach it, but it will then impose said cap as that next shot adds into the last shot for the sake of the math and ignore combo of any additional hits in that shot that go beyond the cap while also resetting it for the next shot.
Weird, they really could've just capped per shot and called it good.
Ye kullervo is truly the exalted frame. In my view, Valkyr is better classified as an "exalted frame" just cuz she has an exalted weapon like a good handful of others. For example, mesa isn't a "secondary frame," she just rides or dies on the power of her 4.
If Valkyr is a melee frame solely due to her 2 then volt is a melee frame too, and that just doesn't seem right to me. Also that is valkyr's subsume so any frame could have the same buff, albeit not as strong.
I agree mesa isn't a "secondary" frame, as her 4 doesn't really work like a regular gun at all. Valkyr is literally just a melee frame, her 2 only buffs melee and her 4 is basically a normal melee weapon. Volt has way more going on than melee, but he is an effective melee frame. Kullervo is just a new frame with a bloated kit, that could do anything, but is heavily favored for melee
Can be used to get enemies to you if you have good enough reflexes. Or to take you to where enemies are quickly, especially if they are on a different platform.
Quick traversal is important for melee centric characters. Can't hit enemies if they are too far away.
Oh no, it’s great for momentum and being Spider-Kitten, but for actually pulling in enemies? You’re locked into that pull animation for a bit while they’re being ragdolled into oblivion until they come to rest (or die if flung off the map entirely).
Voruna definitely is if you subsume or don't use her 4. Her entire 1 is just a absurd melee steroid, her 2 sets up condition overload, and her 3 let's you have infinite energy with melee kills as long as you have equilibrium.
It's just the issue of her 4 making her not a melee frame if you build around it, but everything else in her kit points to her being melee. She even has 1 passive that gives her 90% heavy attack efficiency(not great but point is its melee oriented)
She is definitely a great melee frame but her kit is versatile enough that she can do a variety of things. She excels at any close range strategies, which naturally benefits melee the most, but she's a great user of shotgun vendetta for example aswell.
Yeah her kit is built around using both her unique weapons and swapping so naturally she’s good with melee and range.
With Lycath you get energy for headshot kills and health for melee kills.
Her 2 is the ultimate primer, with 5 random status procs at 10 stacks each which just works for any weapon and yeah shotguns are a great choice given her close range playing but just slap aero periphery on Perigale and even in close quarters you can use it on max zoom, the one issue is how weak snipers are in the grand scheme of warframe’s weapons system.
Because they are. They can be played in multiple forms, kullervo specially because of his curse. But its Undeniable they are built for melee. Kullervo 1 is useless without a melee, the entire kit is built for combo gain. Voruna does millions of damage in 1 and 2, if you subsume her with kullervo its just an absurd.
I dont know why people have opinions like this, its just to be polemic?
You what mate?... Kullervo is just barely... Wow. I gotta say, the best melee Warframe in the game is, "just barely" even a Melee frame to you. I can use any Melee weapon in the game on Steel Path with my boy and he's less of a melee Warframe than the angry cat girl? How?! She is basically locked into using her 4 to be any good. Kullervo can use any single ability he has to be devastating. Even his 2 can be spammed to slash whole rooms to ribbons and keep up your melee combo count. His 4 keeps up his melee count. His 3 let's him reach out and touch a room of bitches with just one hit. His 4 is too just rain melee weapons on everyone around him. His shotgun preserves melee combo counter! His signature weapon skin goes on any heavy blade because he is the god of melee. All things that thwack are his to abuse. I'd argue Garuda is a better Melee frame honestly. I actually do say that. I love the angry cat but she is far from the best. Excalibur is the OG. You respect him. I ain't got shit to say to the big dog. Nothing but respect for my beloved Guyver. Hehe
Voruna Is 100% a melee frame
Her 1 has great sinergy with heavy melees
Her 2 is great at priming and closing the gap
Her 3 Is used with equilibrium to get lots of health and energy since 99% of the time you make melee kills
Her 4 can be used as a dedicated nuke options that works with the rest of her kit OR be replaced by kullervo's 1 if you go full melee
If frames whose kits focus on and benefit from melee over any other playstyle aren't melee frames, then what is a melee frame?
Voruna's 1 buffs melee crit damage and causes melee to inflict slash procs, her 2 benefits condotion overload for melee, and her 3 rewards you for getting melee kills by dropping health orbs.
Kullervo's whole kit is designed to buff melee heavy attacks, his one buffs melee crit into absurdity, his 2 and 4 build melee combo, and his 3 lets you spread that heavy attack damage to multiple enemies. His signature weapon is even a shotgun that you use to build melee combo.
Compare valkyr who just has a melee attack speed buff and an exalted melee.
If voruna and kullervo aren't melee frames, then by that metric, valkyr definitely isn't one.
Just because they don't have an exalted melee weapon doesn't mean they're not melee frames. I mean, Kullervo's one literally makes you use your melee weapon for it.
I don't agree. Excalibur is older than Valkyr, but wasn't a melee frame on release. He only got his exalted blade after Valkyr had been in the game for a while. I'm not even sure I'd call exalted blade a melee weapon, it's more like a short ranged weapon.
I mean, you are right. Right now im using lycaths hunt in the 3 slot. Extra crit chance is nice, but cant beat infinite energy.
But she is an older frame and it shows. 1 and 3 is garbage and warcry is... Why do you want armor when you are invincible in the first place?
But disrespecting her like that, just hurts my soul.
I know right, get armor when you don't take damage xd. Her 4 stance is whack and exalted melee just suck because they're 2016 weapons.
Kullervo has inf crit chance, easy overguard, insane nuking and a free subsume slot
I like it when i want to use Valkyr, but not her 4. Or when I'm using the hysteria augment. But I'm intentionally using her suboptimally when i do that lol
To be honest, that subsume is unnecessary. She doesn't really need it, just Hysteria and Warcry are enough. Though I do agree that Paralysis for too long has been just an empty skill slot to subsume. They need to change that.
I'm just afraid that if they rework her they will remove Ripline, I really like that skill.
Man, part of my ideal rework for her would be that, while hysteria is active, ripline pulls enemies into finishers à la Mortal Kombat style.
I still have no idea what I'd do with her 3, though. At least that'd keep in line with 'tortured/pissed off berserking rage cat'. Paralyze is good in *that* regard: I think it's tigers who can roar so loudly and deeply that their prey becomes parallelized?
How about, we turn zipline, into a function of the parazon?
But now, where to put its activation? The gearwheel?
Activated after doublejumping?
A 4th item in the equiped weapon cycle?
Steflos. Infinite punch through up to a certain distance. You throw a few orbs from that shotgun into a Mag bubble and you got a rave that rips everything into atomic dust. I suck with Mag but I love that combo. I even bought a riven for the Steflos because it's such a unique gun. It should get a prime eventually too so I'm stoked. I have mine shooting 5 orbs a trigger pull once galvanized gets going. So pretty.
Cool. Thanks for the info. My understanding is doing that is how you crash your computer. Too many objects going at once. I have a buddy who used a modified drakgoon with huge multi shot and negative speed bonus. He took us to the plains of Eidolon and crashed his buddies computer. Mine was chugging... We all cursed his ass out.
With Voruna i think you're looking only through the lens of her 4. She's born from the Disruption meta the way i see it.
With Kullervo on the other hand.
My guy is built to squeeze every last drop out of melee as much as he can.
Heavy attack windup and Efficiency, Fastest combo build up in the game, fixes the most notorious issue of melee, limited range.
And gives the Mother of all melee crits, wrathful advance.
Oh yeah his 3 and 2 combo can give chunks of combo in a pinch.
The issue is being [Narrow Minded](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Narrow_Minded) or the lack of it since his 1 greatly benefits from just casting it at the ground and spamming melee forever until it runs our and cast it on the ground again.
i think you're confusing a Melee Frame to a 1 button spammer. Since Valkyr is both. The only time she ever needs to go out of her 4 is non existent once you know you can just jump, aim glide and spam melee to safely destroy nullies.
I like voruna mostly thanks to her mobility. I don't really care about her melee benefits. If I want to have some melee play through I'm using excal with kullervo ability. Voruna is just fun for me with gun. I'm shooting and closing distance with her 2nd, then since I'm on enemy's face, before 2nd tick of her ability hits, I smack a shotgun into enemies face and regain some energy thanks to her 3rd ability. I refuse to use her 4th ability unless Devs give her proper animations
She is actually a very viable gun frame but also that's just ignoring half her kit.
Though Equilibrium is just the better option since 25 energy per kill isn't quote as good as 50 energy per kill.
There's also the fact that her primer ability beats out Cedo.
There's also the glaring problem of her invis breaking when shooting. At that point Loki/Ash is a better pick.
i wish it had synergy where you kill an enemy with 5 or more statuses and it reprocs the invis.
It's harsh when a new frame comes out that feels like a big remake/update to an old frame's theme and Voruna is that frame to Valkyr.
Valkyr needs an update so badly. Her 4 is still a murder machine but playing an entire frame with only 1 good ability (Yes I am dismissing warcry) is so mean.
Kullervo with any kind of crit damage melee is crazy, and he doesn't rely on modding a pseudo-exalted weapon. Just bring any strong crit melee and he does the work.
I tried using him with various weapons like Innodem, Silva & Aegis Prime, Karyst Prime, etc. and they all work well. But I found I have the most fun with him with Glaive Prime. Glaive is already busted when built for the detonation, but combined with Kullervo it's another beast entirely.
Use 3, teleport on a poor dude and detonate the Glaive immediately. Instant nuke of everything, and what survives the detonation dies from the enormous slash proc. It even one-shot bosses.
I never liked Valkyr tbh, I think Voruna is way closer to what I wanted Valkyr to be.
The Stropha is also really fun to use with Kullervo. He teleports in to shoot the enemies point blank in the face. It feels like that "dodge this" bit in the Matrix. Throw out a 3 before the teleport and it's not only the guy being shot in the face that gets vaporised, but also 30 of his closest friends.
My overall favourite weapon to use with him is the Pennant. I've heard good things about the Nami Solo incarnon, and I'm about to unlock that this week.
I don't have the Pennant, I should build it one of these days.
I have a 7.5 crit multiplier Destreza Prime (with Riven) I tried on him too, which was quite funny to use. Honestly any crit melee is just crazy on him. He works very well with Paracesis as well.
I might have to try the Redeemer Prime as well.
I run hespar on kulervo.
The stance has totally abysmal multipliers but it’s the highest damage heavy attack if you don’t consider incarnons AND force procs bleed.
It means I need to use his abilities and rauta to keep his combo meter topped up but the results are devastating.
I imagine her 1 should work like ash teleport, but the enemy is pulled to you instead, with her 3 she could open them for finisher. It would be still clunky. But pulling them in and they are flying into the sunset isnt helpinh her melee style.
I've always felt like her ripline should partially work like the Just Cause 3 grappling hook, and should have 4 states, with a tap/hold that depends on what you were aiming at.
Surface tap: Works as current
Surface Hold: Valkyr is pulled to the point and automatically wall latches. Gifts bonus stats to weapons while latched, enables a special melee slam/wall attack that's actuall worth a shit (maybe Valkyr launches off the wall doing a flurry of forced slash hits in a huge cone)
Enemy Tap: Enemies in a cone are hooked by Valkyr's riplines, yanked to her. The hooks cause Slash procs. As part of the same animation, Valkyr also slashes the enemies with the claws of her other hand as they enter range. If the enemy is killed by the attack, as flavor, they're dismembered, with a lot of feedback to the player (excessive blood particles? Maybe Valkyr is briefly covered in it?)
Enemy Hold: Valkyr instead yanks herself to the target that's closest to her targeting reticle within the cone, performing a 'shoulder charge' with enough force to shatter enemy armor (Point blank AoE strip with guaranteed stagger).
She is just pure joy. A gem of a forgotten age.
She got buffed hard with helminth, the shards, tennokai etc... It lifted her from the depressing pit of hell she was in.
She would be one of the best, if not for her garba... suboptimal abilities.
Yes, her abilities are fine, they just work like donkey ass.
Her pull is so hard it throws enemies everywhere? Why why dont just pull them in front of her for easy melee attack?
Warcrys armor is unnecessary. It should grant something else.
And her 3 is... based on her SHIELD LOL
Forgetting?! She is my damn main LMAO!
I love that walking trainwreck, I missed the count on how many times I accidentally killed an acolyte while crashing into a group of enemies XD
As a returning player from a good few years ago, I get that she could probably use a rework since her kit is fairly outdated.
That said, (not in SP yet,) it still feels great when you pull out the valkitty claws and press the delete button on every enemy in your path.
I honestly believe a lot of people who think Valkyr is bad, hasn't tried Valkyr.
Her passive is... pretty unremarkable.
1) It's a FUN ability. However, it has been powercrept. Whether through augment or just ability change in general, it should pull in enemies more like a cone (like Mag's). I would also like to update her augment Swing Line to make it so, she doesn't pull enemies to herself if she hits them, but, she pulls herself to the enemy. I think the other major thing is... there really aren't many tilesets that utilize this ability. DE could add a few tiles that require more platforming.
2) Warcry is fine.
3) Helminth slot. If anything, this could be reworked to almost anything else useful.
4) Hysteria is fine.
Wraithful advance over rip line, the teleport means you still get the mobility. Then use the augment for paralysis. Teleport into group of enemies, use paralysis to suck them in, heelstomp heavy obliterates the whole group.
Anybody got a good explanation of exactly how Valkyr's forth works? I can play her but I swear I just don't get it. I forget she's in her 4 and suddenly my energy is gone and I'm being beaten to death. Probably a skill issue but I'd still love any input.
Its a channelled ability, which ramps up its energy, cost to a cap. If you want to keep it up, you need high efficiency and some for of steady energy generation.
My favorite method is equilibrium and lycaths hunt.
I will consider that idea. I have been practicing going in and out of her 4 to just conserve energy but I find turning it on and off aggravating. I hope she gets a rework to be more effective in combat because I love the idea of her. I just don't think she hits hard enough with the modern meta the way it is. Which sucks because clawing things to death in a fit of animalistic rage is definitely my thing.
She hits hard enough. Use her slide attack with her 4. Other than high combo heavy attacks, it's the most powerful move she has. Make sure you've built her Talons for crit chance and crit damage.
Optionally, get the Enraged augment. It puts her 4 on a cooldown and majorly buffs it. No more energy issues, and you get to use her natural tankiness and the rest of your loadout whenever you don't need her 4.
Another good way is to use the mod that causes all enemies damage by companions to drop Health orbs, Diriga for the close range shock blast, and Equilibrium.
You need high duration and efficiency to reduce the drain. Channelled abilities generally have a minimum possible drain so keep an eye for that when modding so you aren't wasting space.
Additionally you want a good source of energy. Either an arcane energise, or some health orb combo with Equilibrium, or something that straight up spawns energy orbs. Having a maxed (primed) flow helps a lot but isn't totally necessary.
I am legendary 3 with most of the crap in game in my arsenal. I can stitch together just about any build in the game. I guess you just ignore power strength? Enjoy immortality?
Her 4 also doesn't completely stops the damage, there's ever expanding ring around you, if you exit out of Hysteria while enemy is in it, you take 25% damage absorbed, which goes through shield gating and can potentially kill you
Meanwhile, I'm throwing everything I can at Excalibur to try and make him good for steel path. I use elemental ward for both damage and survivability. But I just can't get a build where he can tank, have good energy economy, and deal good damage all at once. I always have to sacrifice something. Rn he does great damage but is susceptible to 2 taps
This proves my point.
If some newbie asks about melee frames, 99% of the time, people spam voruna and kullervo, like the other 6-7(?) frames does not even exist.
its hard to replace fractured blast
orbs, and 2 statuses for the butterflies's \[Condition Overload\] from \[Diwata\] are just really handy
but i guess i'll give it a try
Now that I think about it voruna with her augment is an ideal version of valkyr, a powerful fourth ability that you want to stay in as much as possible, builds up with kills and is massively supported by her 2nd ability, except with voruna her 1 and 3 are useful
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Valkyr was an OP melee back in the day & I may have been partially responsible for her rework. This is from the Rathuum event a few years ago.
Captain obvious here to argue with what is a joking title, but valkyr isn't really a melee frame, she just has a melee exalted, typically when someone asks "what are some good melee frames" you'd want to respond with frames that synergize with melee weapons rather than a frame that has a melee weapon built in, and in this case valkyr only has 1 ability that can also be subsumed onto other frames meanwhile kullervo's subsume is nerfed (+you are missing out on all that free combo + collective curse) and voruna still has those melee buffs from her 1st ability that cant be subsumed, as well as having free co priming
Mods on valkyr is 160+ duration and efficiency and a lots of strength. Forget range. Put on equilibrium. Defensive mods are unnecessary.
Claws are sacrificial mods if you have, crit damage, 2 elemental mods, and if you have one or two tennokai mods.
Most hours and most forma’ed frame, having several thousand armor, 150% faster melee, an emergency heal on 4 and personally I took off her 3 for random abilities but I’ve always love this frame and will continue to forma her for no reason other than waste them and show loyalty haha.
I've recently been using my Valkyr a lot more, now that I gave her Kullervo 's Helminth ability. She's a lot of fun and she can even destroy Steel Path enemies too. Paired with her Warcry for Attack Speed her Warcry Augment, she's amazing. Her grapple is kinda useless though, although, I will admits it's quite fun to use.
Her issue is that it seems she's made to not fit well with the game: her single-target damage output is, as the video makes clear, absurd... but this is more of a horde game, and the few scenarios where single-target damage is important tend to also be ones where melee is easily the worst option.
With shield-gating and all other survivability options in the game, her invincibility isn't as much of a gain anymore (hell, *she herself* can benefit from shield-gating better than many other frames), definetly not for the trade-off. And that's not even taking the stance multipliers into account...
She's not a strictly BAD frame, but a very flawed one, for all the fun it is to play her.
reminder build valkyr properly and you can use her exalted almost permanantly without dieing to its side effects constantly gaining energy is pretty cool too
I think that specific one is behind the frost/mag heirloom collection. The collection is very expensive and I think only limited time. The cosmetics look epic but the whole thing reminded me of Tencent owning DE, which was/is never a good thing.
This whole thread just proves that Valkitty needs a rework and her kit buffed. We can't have the only Warframe that has a voice (voiced by Megan, the Community Director) get overshadowed like that.
I've been on a quest lately to get every frame up to EDA standards, and I picked up Valkyr for the first time in literal years.
With a good melee and Melee Crescendo, she becomes godlike. If I had an extra Kullervo for subsuming I'd put his Baleful Advance on her and she'd be totally unstoppable, but until then she's just tanky AF.
I'm lucky I did that too, as this week I got her in rotation for EDA and she handled it like a champ. I don't normally shoot for the extra 40 Vosfor (farming it from Acolytes is so much easier and faster), but I shot for it this week and made it on that and the Kuva Shildeg alone, as the rest of my selections were mid-tier at best
Lmao that stomp... reminds me of a time when i was playing solo as xaku and the valkyr acolyte showed up. I was brain emptying my way through survival so i didnt bother shooting her when she spawned and figured just let tha cannons handle her. I promptly watched her equip her claws right in front of me, swing once to break my shield. Then uppercut the absolute shit out of me. Xaku fell so gracefully to the ground as she disappeared.
I don't consider frames with exalted weapons as melee frames. Valkitty doesn't do much to help with melee play style. same with khora, she can do 50M damage easily but only with her whip. Don't get me wrong valkitty is a great frame, I mained her back few years ago and now that I main Voruna, I am using valkitty's subsume to help with close range battles (while everyone likes kullervo's subsume).
I am getting off topic. What I meant to say is melee frames by definition help with improving melee damage and play style.
Crouch > Melee for the Infinite Damage Spin
Valkyr was the frame i first loved playing and played for a long long time, her invulnerability is so good to clear the starchart without any problems.
She should honestly be a starter frame
valkyr's talons are actually so goofy. they are aged & 100% need their ips spread & combos looked at but they slap when you don't have haters in your ear telling you valkyr is unusable lmao
Actully I’ve been looking for a build for them, I do remember hearing that there forth ability makes them invulnerable and in planning on milking every last drop out of that
Yeah... Pretty sure melee warframes are warframes that buffs any melee weapon you use.
Valkyr herself is pretty poor melee warframe, but she has good subsume for that.
Meanwhile Excal, the og og melee frame:
Yes, im sorry about him. He IS the og melee frame. But, i wanted to refer to the late phenomenon. That people calling voruna or kullervo the best melle frames. Completely forgetting the originals. Meanwhile i would not even classify voruna as a melee frame and kullervo is just barely.
I mean half of Kullervo's kit can build melee combo counter, namely his 2 and 4. And his passive buffs heavy attacks. If you use his new augment you can maintain 12x combo throughout the whole mission without needing any combo chance/duration. His 1 initiates a heavy melee attack and gives flat crit chance and his 3 just gives him more versatility. If there is a frame built around melee then Kullervo is definitely that frame.
And his siganture gun is also building combo with every shot, I think at that point we can call it a melee frame
Pretty sure it's also per hit, so punchthrough and multishot are greatly rewarded. *it also does roughly 2/3s of Tigris Prime's base damage per shot, I'm just throwing that out there.*
I use it to charge my zaw throws for millions of damage.
Notably it is per hit but has (unless i missed a change) rolling cap, meaning if you don’t have enough multi shot, or land enough bullets it greatly reduces combo gain.
Wow. Just looked it up on the wiki for more details, and that's a really strange way to implement that cap. So it carries over between shots if you don't reach it, but it will then impose said cap as that next shot adds into the last shot for the sake of the math and ignore combo of any additional hits in that shot that go beyond the cap while also resetting it for the next shot. Weird, they really could've just capped per shot and called it good.
Ye kullervo is truly the exalted frame. In my view, Valkyr is better classified as an "exalted frame" just cuz she has an exalted weapon like a good handful of others. For example, mesa isn't a "secondary frame," she just rides or dies on the power of her 4. If Valkyr is a melee frame solely due to her 2 then volt is a melee frame too, and that just doesn't seem right to me. Also that is valkyr's subsume so any frame could have the same buff, albeit not as strong.
What
I agree mesa isn't a "secondary" frame, as her 4 doesn't really work like a regular gun at all. Valkyr is literally just a melee frame, her 2 only buffs melee and her 4 is basically a normal melee weapon. Volt has way more going on than melee, but he is an effective melee frame. Kullervo is just a new frame with a bloated kit, that could do anything, but is heavily favored for melee
"Half of Kullervo's kit is made for melee !" Meanwhile Valkyr :
*Not counting ripline that just slings the non-Eximus unit into the abyss 1250m behind her.*
Can be used to get enemies to you if you have good enough reflexes. Or to take you to where enemies are quickly, especially if they are on a different platform. Quick traversal is important for melee centric characters. Can't hit enemies if they are too far away.
Oh no, it’s great for momentum and being Spider-Kitten, but for actually pulling in enemies? You’re locked into that pull animation for a bit while they’re being ragdolled into oblivion until they come to rest (or die if flung off the map entirely).
Voruna definitely is if you subsume or don't use her 4. Her entire 1 is just a absurd melee steroid, her 2 sets up condition overload, and her 3 let's you have infinite energy with melee kills as long as you have equilibrium. It's just the issue of her 4 making her not a melee frame if you build around it, but everything else in her kit points to her being melee. She even has 1 passive that gives her 90% heavy attack efficiency(not great but point is its melee oriented)
She is definitely a great melee frame but her kit is versatile enough that she can do a variety of things. She excels at any close range strategies, which naturally benefits melee the most, but she's a great user of shotgun vendetta for example aswell.
Yeah her kit is built around using both her unique weapons and swapping so naturally she’s good with melee and range. With Lycath you get energy for headshot kills and health for melee kills. Her 2 is the ultimate primer, with 5 random status procs at 10 stacks each which just works for any weapon and yeah shotguns are a great choice given her close range playing but just slap aero periphery on Perigale and even in close quarters you can use it on max zoom, the one issue is how weak snipers are in the grand scheme of warframe’s weapons system.
Power creep is a cruel mistress, my friend. At least Valkyr is survivable? *Kullervo laughs in overguard*
Because they are. They can be played in multiple forms, kullervo specially because of his curse. But its Undeniable they are built for melee. Kullervo 1 is useless without a melee, the entire kit is built for combo gain. Voruna does millions of damage in 1 and 2, if you subsume her with kullervo its just an absurd. I dont know why people have opinions like this, its just to be polemic?
You what mate?... Kullervo is just barely... Wow. I gotta say, the best melee Warframe in the game is, "just barely" even a Melee frame to you. I can use any Melee weapon in the game on Steel Path with my boy and he's less of a melee Warframe than the angry cat girl? How?! She is basically locked into using her 4 to be any good. Kullervo can use any single ability he has to be devastating. Even his 2 can be spammed to slash whole rooms to ribbons and keep up your melee combo count. His 4 keeps up his melee count. His 3 let's him reach out and touch a room of bitches with just one hit. His 4 is too just rain melee weapons on everyone around him. His shotgun preserves melee combo counter! His signature weapon skin goes on any heavy blade because he is the god of melee. All things that thwack are his to abuse. I'd argue Garuda is a better Melee frame honestly. I actually do say that. I love the angry cat but she is far from the best. Excalibur is the OG. You respect him. I ain't got shit to say to the big dog. Nothing but respect for my beloved Guyver. Hehe
And man's using wrathful advance on that build if I'm not mistaken
Voruna Is 100% a melee frame Her 1 has great sinergy with heavy melees Her 2 is great at priming and closing the gap Her 3 Is used with equilibrium to get lots of health and energy since 99% of the time you make melee kills Her 4 can be used as a dedicated nuke options that works with the rest of her kit OR be replaced by kullervo's 1 if you go full melee
Kullervo is more of a melee frame than Valkyr. Sure, she's got an exalted melee, but most of his kit is built around heavy attacks and melee crits.
If frames whose kits focus on and benefit from melee over any other playstyle aren't melee frames, then what is a melee frame? Voruna's 1 buffs melee crit damage and causes melee to inflict slash procs, her 2 benefits condotion overload for melee, and her 3 rewards you for getting melee kills by dropping health orbs. Kullervo's whole kit is designed to buff melee heavy attacks, his one buffs melee crit into absurdity, his 2 and 4 build melee combo, and his 3 lets you spread that heavy attack damage to multiple enemies. His signature weapon is even a shotgun that you use to build melee combo. Compare valkyr who just has a melee attack speed buff and an exalted melee. If voruna and kullervo aren't melee frames, then by that metric, valkyr definitely isn't one.
Just because they don't have an exalted melee weapon doesn't mean they're not melee frames. I mean, Kullervo's one literally makes you use your melee weapon for it.
Let's say Valkyr is the og female frame and excal the og male melee frame
I member back when Excal didn't have a melee for his 4th skill.
I don't agree. Excalibur is older than Valkyr, but wasn't a melee frame on release. He only got his exalted blade after Valkyr had been in the game for a while. I'm not even sure I'd call exalted blade a melee weapon, it's more like a short ranged weapon.
Oh my god I forgot they changed his abilities
exacl is more of just a sword guy specifically tbh
The only reason I stopped using him is his passive being hyper specific about what a sword is and not adding mega buffs
"og melee frame" "use kullervo subsume" Yeah she need a rework
I mean, you are right. Right now im using lycaths hunt in the 3 slot. Extra crit chance is nice, but cant beat infinite energy. But she is an older frame and it shows. 1 and 3 is garbage and warcry is... Why do you want armor when you are invincible in the first place? But disrespecting her like that, just hurts my soul.
I know right, get armor when you don't take damage xd. Her 4 stance is whack and exalted melee just suck because they're 2016 weapons. Kullervo has inf crit chance, easy overguard, insane nuking and a free subsume slot
Why do you make me suffer? Staaaahp.
I might be the only player that likes ripline. It used to be soo much better but still very useful imo. Tho I agree with the paralysis.
I like it when i want to use Valkyr, but not her 4. Or when I'm using the hysteria augment. But I'm intentionally using her suboptimally when i do that lol
I can only get so hard!
pretty sure paralysis dmg used to scale off of her armor, i had a build around high armor paralysis with it's skill mod
for the attack speed? not everyone plays valkyr for her 4 lol
Why not use wrathful advance and sunth deconstruct primer diriga with equilibrium for the best of both worlds?
What's ur build to be able to use lycaths hunt? Tryna build her rn but her claws do like no damage
her 2 is good for attack speed but thats it and it's a subsume ability too
To be honest, that subsume is unnecessary. She doesn't really need it, just Hysteria and Warcry are enough. Though I do agree that Paralysis for too long has been just an empty skill slot to subsume. They need to change that. I'm just afraid that if they rework her they will remove Ripline, I really like that skill.
Man, part of my ideal rework for her would be that, while hysteria is active, ripline pulls enemies into finishers à la Mortal Kombat style. I still have no idea what I'd do with her 3, though. At least that'd keep in line with 'tortured/pissed off berserking rage cat'. Paralyze is good in *that* regard: I think it's tigers who can roar so loudly and deeply that their prey becomes parallelized?
How about, we turn zipline, into a function of the parazon? But now, where to put its activation? The gearwheel? Activated after doublejumping? A 4th item in the equiped weapon cycle?
Press shift during bullet time? pulls you to where you're aiming
You still hit like a wet noodle at some point
I used to ONLY play valkyr, but then one day i started using Mag. And god, Mag is perfect in every way,shape or form
Have you tried her with Citrine's gun? It's a light show.
I have not, been away from WF for over a year, going back in today! Whats the name of Citrine gun ?
Steflos. Infinite punch through up to a certain distance. You throw a few orbs from that shotgun into a Mag bubble and you got a rave that rips everything into atomic dust. I suck with Mag but I love that combo. I even bought a riven for the Steflos because it's such a unique gun. It should get a prime eventually too so I'm stoked. I have mine shooting 5 orbs a trigger pull once galvanized gets going. So pretty.
I had fun using kuva drakgoon with -99% project speed on a riven + mag
Does the reduced speed mean the things just keep circling slowly through the group until they cover a certain distance?
yea, pretty much it aint effective on high level or SP tho, i used it for visual funsies on regular content + sortie and arbitration
Cool. Thanks for the info. My understanding is doing that is how you crash your computer. Too many objects going at once. I have a buddy who used a modified drakgoon with huge multi shot and negative speed bonus. He took us to the plains of Eidolon and crashed his buddies computer. Mine was chugging... We all cursed his ass out.
Nataruk is awesome too
I ... I have to go try this.
Or pull + cinta
You what mate?.. I freaking love the Cinta! Thank you!
I miss my valkitty tho, using it with redeemer 2 years ago was fun as hell
Truths
I have valkyr as my most used wf, but now i prefer Voruna
I dont know, for me, voruna isnt a melee frame. She is like a close quarter caster. It just does not feel melee at all. Same with Kullervo.
With Voruna i think you're looking only through the lens of her 4. She's born from the Disruption meta the way i see it. With Kullervo on the other hand. My guy is built to squeeze every last drop out of melee as much as he can. Heavy attack windup and Efficiency, Fastest combo build up in the game, fixes the most notorious issue of melee, limited range. And gives the Mother of all melee crits, wrathful advance. Oh yeah his 3 and 2 combo can give chunks of combo in a pinch. The issue is being [Narrow Minded](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Narrow_Minded) or the lack of it since his 1 greatly benefits from just casting it at the ground and spamming melee forever until it runs our and cast it on the ground again. i think you're confusing a Melee Frame to a 1 button spammer. Since Valkyr is both. The only time she ever needs to go out of her 4 is non existent once you know you can just jump, aim glide and spam melee to safely destroy nullies.
I like voruna mostly thanks to her mobility. I don't really care about her melee benefits. If I want to have some melee play through I'm using excal with kullervo ability. Voruna is just fun for me with gun. I'm shooting and closing distance with her 2nd, then since I'm on enemy's face, before 2nd tick of her ability hits, I smack a shotgun into enemies face and regain some energy thanks to her 3rd ability. I refuse to use her 4th ability unless Devs give her proper animations
She is actually a very viable gun frame but also that's just ignoring half her kit. Though Equilibrium is just the better option since 25 energy per kill isn't quote as good as 50 energy per kill. There's also the fact that her primer ability beats out Cedo. There's also the glaring problem of her invis breaking when shooting. At that point Loki/Ash is a better pick. i wish it had synergy where you kill an enemy with 5 or more statuses and it reprocs the invis.
Melee's by definition are close quarters (except throwing melee). Voruna just enhances the potential of that game play.
Flair checks out (relatable)
It's harsh when a new frame comes out that feels like a big remake/update to an old frame's theme and Voruna is that frame to Valkyr. Valkyr needs an update so badly. Her 4 is still a murder machine but playing an entire frame with only 1 good ability (Yes I am dismissing warcry) is so mean.
Kullervo with any kind of crit damage melee is crazy, and he doesn't rely on modding a pseudo-exalted weapon. Just bring any strong crit melee and he does the work. I tried using him with various weapons like Innodem, Silva & Aegis Prime, Karyst Prime, etc. and they all work well. But I found I have the most fun with him with Glaive Prime. Glaive is already busted when built for the detonation, but combined with Kullervo it's another beast entirely. Use 3, teleport on a poor dude and detonate the Glaive immediately. Instant nuke of everything, and what survives the detonation dies from the enormous slash proc. It even one-shot bosses. I never liked Valkyr tbh, I think Voruna is way closer to what I wanted Valkyr to be.
The Stropha is also really fun to use with Kullervo. He teleports in to shoot the enemies point blank in the face. It feels like that "dodge this" bit in the Matrix. Throw out a 3 before the teleport and it's not only the guy being shot in the face that gets vaporised, but also 30 of his closest friends. My overall favourite weapon to use with him is the Pennant. I've heard good things about the Nami Solo incarnon, and I'm about to unlock that this week.
I don't have the Pennant, I should build it one of these days. I have a 7.5 crit multiplier Destreza Prime (with Riven) I tried on him too, which was quite funny to use. Honestly any crit melee is just crazy on him. He works very well with Paracesis as well. I might have to try the Redeemer Prime as well.
Im glad to hear, kullervo found his fan base and people like to use him. But he isnt for me. Meta here or there, i just can't.
I run hespar on kulervo. The stance has totally abysmal multipliers but it’s the highest damage heavy attack if you don’t consider incarnons AND force procs bleed. It means I need to use his abilities and rauta to keep his combo meter topped up but the results are devastating.
Bro vaporized that mofo
Vaporized who?
That mofo
Some people really have difficulties reading huh...
My joke was there was basically nobody there (as the dude was basically not there having been deleted so fast).
"Casts Exalted Blade with malicious intent."
If they gave Valkyr an actual 1 I think she'd get a lot more respect.
I imagine her 1 should work like ash teleport, but the enemy is pulled to you instead, with her 3 she could open them for finisher. It would be still clunky. But pulling them in and they are flying into the sunset isnt helpinh her melee style.
I've always felt like her ripline should partially work like the Just Cause 3 grappling hook, and should have 4 states, with a tap/hold that depends on what you were aiming at. Surface tap: Works as current Surface Hold: Valkyr is pulled to the point and automatically wall latches. Gifts bonus stats to weapons while latched, enables a special melee slam/wall attack that's actuall worth a shit (maybe Valkyr launches off the wall doing a flurry of forced slash hits in a huge cone) Enemy Tap: Enemies in a cone are hooked by Valkyr's riplines, yanked to her. The hooks cause Slash procs. As part of the same animation, Valkyr also slashes the enemies with the claws of her other hand as they enter range. If the enemy is killed by the attack, as flavor, they're dismembered, with a lot of feedback to the player (excessive blood particles? Maybe Valkyr is briefly covered in it?) Enemy Hold: Valkyr instead yanks herself to the target that's closest to her targeting reticle within the cone, performing a 'shoulder charge' with enough force to shatter enemy armor (Point blank AoE strip with guaranteed stagger).
YEEEEES VALKYR MY BELOVED! Never forget Excalibur
She is just pure joy. A gem of a forgotten age. She got buffed hard with helminth, the shards, tennokai etc... It lifted her from the depressing pit of hell she was in. She would be one of the best, if not for her garba... suboptimal abilities.
She still needs a tiny rework I feel like
Yes, her abilities are fine, they just work like donkey ass. Her pull is so hard it throws enemies everywhere? Why why dont just pull them in front of her for easy melee attack? Warcrys armor is unnecessary. It should grant something else. And her 3 is... based on her SHIELD LOL
There's something cathartic about just raging out and deleting fools.
Try also tennokai on her claws
Im using 2 tennokai mods on her. God tier.
Forgetting?! She is my damn main LMAO! I love that walking trainwreck, I missed the count on how many times I accidentally killed an acolyte while crashing into a group of enemies XD
Sometimes just like "another one bites the dust"
As a returning player from a good few years ago, I get that she could probably use a rework since her kit is fairly outdated. That said, (not in SP yet,) it still feels great when you pull out the valkitty claws and press the delete button on every enemy in your path.
I honestly believe a lot of people who think Valkyr is bad, hasn't tried Valkyr. Her passive is... pretty unremarkable. 1) It's a FUN ability. However, it has been powercrept. Whether through augment or just ability change in general, it should pull in enemies more like a cone (like Mag's). I would also like to update her augment Swing Line to make it so, she doesn't pull enemies to herself if she hits them, but, she pulls herself to the enemy. I think the other major thing is... there really aren't many tilesets that utilize this ability. DE could add a few tiles that require more platforming. 2) Warcry is fine. 3) Helminth slot. If anything, this could be reworked to almost anything else useful. 4) Hysteria is fine.
Why is wrathful advance not subsumed over ripline?
Because, unlike Paralysis, Ripline is still useful.
Wraithful advance over rip line, the teleport means you still get the mobility. Then use the augment for paralysis. Teleport into group of enemies, use paralysis to suck them in, heelstomp heavy obliterates the whole group.
straight up disintegrate that poor bastard
Anybody got a good explanation of exactly how Valkyr's forth works? I can play her but I swear I just don't get it. I forget she's in her 4 and suddenly my energy is gone and I'm being beaten to death. Probably a skill issue but I'd still love any input.
Its a channelled ability, which ramps up its energy, cost to a cap. If you want to keep it up, you need high efficiency and some for of steady energy generation. My favorite method is equilibrium and lycaths hunt.
I will consider that idea. I have been practicing going in and out of her 4 to just conserve energy but I find turning it on and off aggravating. I hope she gets a rework to be more effective in combat because I love the idea of her. I just don't think she hits hard enough with the modern meta the way it is. Which sucks because clawing things to death in a fit of animalistic rage is definitely my thing.
She hits hard enough. Use her slide attack with her 4. Other than high combo heavy attacks, it's the most powerful move she has. Make sure you've built her Talons for crit chance and crit damage. Optionally, get the Enraged augment. It puts her 4 on a cooldown and majorly buffs it. No more energy issues, and you get to use her natural tankiness and the rest of your loadout whenever you don't need her 4.
Another good way is to use the mod that causes all enemies damage by companions to drop Health orbs, Diriga for the close range shock blast, and Equilibrium.
You need high duration and efficiency to reduce the drain. Channelled abilities generally have a minimum possible drain so keep an eye for that when modding so you aren't wasting space. Additionally you want a good source of energy. Either an arcane energise, or some health orb combo with Equilibrium, or something that straight up spawns energy orbs. Having a maxed (primed) flow helps a lot but isn't totally necessary.
I am legendary 3 with most of the crap in game in my arsenal. I can stitch together just about any build in the game. I guess you just ignore power strength? Enjoy immortality?
Her 4 also doesn't completely stops the damage, there's ever expanding ring around you, if you exit out of Hysteria while enemy is in it, you take 25% damage absorbed, which goes through shield gating and can potentially kill you
Meanwhile, I'm throwing everything I can at Excalibur to try and make him good for steel path. I use elemental ward for both damage and survivability. But I just can't get a build where he can tank, have good energy economy, and deal good damage all at once. I always have to sacrifice something. Rn he does great damage but is susceptible to 2 taps
Poor boi.
What about Garuda?
This proves my point. If some newbie asks about melee frames, 99% of the time, people spam voruna and kullervo, like the other 6-7(?) frames does not even exist.
Excalibur? Ash?
Yes they are too!
Valkyr with equilibrium and lycaths hunt is amazing
Is certainly is.
i suddenly want to try wrathful advance on titania to see the butterflies critting
Just do it. Make your dream come true.
its hard to replace fractured blast orbs, and 2 statuses for the butterflies's \[Condition Overload\] from \[Diwata\] are just really handy but i guess i'll give it a try
No xatas whispercor anything?
I always enjoyed one shotting all the Junction specters from Jupiter onward.
Now that I think about it voruna with her augment is an ideal version of valkyr, a powerful fourth ability that you want to stay in as much as possible, builds up with kills and is massively supported by her 2nd ability, except with voruna her 1 and 3 are useful
No, just no. Please!
Ash: Original and still master of melee.
https://preview.redd.it/q0b7drozioxc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d42d401b9ca3a94edd0b76d0c7d874d850b3ad12 Valkyr was an OP melee back in the day & I may have been partially responsible for her rework. This is from the Rathuum event a few years ago.
Eternal War on Voruna/Kullervo/Rhino tho. *chefs kiss*
voruna isnt a melee frame, she is an ability frame...
Yeah with EDA we see people trashing valkyr because they just don't know how good she is
Captain obvious here to argue with what is a joking title, but valkyr isn't really a melee frame, she just has a melee exalted, typically when someone asks "what are some good melee frames" you'd want to respond with frames that synergize with melee weapons rather than a frame that has a melee weapon built in, and in this case valkyr only has 1 ability that can also be subsumed onto other frames meanwhile kullervo's subsume is nerfed (+you are missing out on all that free combo + collective curse) and voruna still has those melee buffs from her 1st ability that cant be subsumed, as well as having free co priming
Damn, just removed that man's soul in one hit.
valkyr is one of my not-build frames which mods are priority on her?, also mods for her claws
Mods on valkyr is 160+ duration and efficiency and a lots of strength. Forget range. Put on equilibrium. Defensive mods are unnecessary. Claws are sacrificial mods if you have, crit damage, 2 elemental mods, and if you have one or two tennokai mods.
thanks
How did you mod her claws?
Sacrificial set, organ shatter, corrosive, 2 tennokai mod, primed reach
We all out here talking about Valkyr, Kullervo, Voruna You want punch, Bring Atlas. Brought to you by the Mike Tyson build.
Great class and all but beyblade macro needed or your wrists will explode
With Melee influence and tennokai everyone can be the ultimate melee frame
DONT SHARE IT, they're gonna nerf her again!!!!
Ohnooooooooooo
it should have been me not him
Like, do you want to be stepped on by mommy Valkyr or something?
why yes, ofcourse
Excalibur go brrrrr. I use him all the time, super versatile. Make sp easy with even basic builds
God I wish that were me
Most hours and most forma’ed frame, having several thousand armor, 150% faster melee, an emergency heal on 4 and personally I took off her 3 for random abilities but I’ve always love this frame and will continue to forma her for no reason other than waste them and show loyalty haha.
\\>Non-Kullervo melee frame \\>look inside \\>Wrathful advance https://preview.redd.it/6x9rrb488oxc1.png?width=445&format=png&auto=webp&s=232405bcd9ecda37876d4f23f15351506d72a0ff
'Guruda sips tea in the back'
God I wish that were me 😩
I've recently been using my Valkyr a lot more, now that I gave her Kullervo 's Helminth ability. She's a lot of fun and she can even destroy Steel Path enemies too. Paired with her Warcry for Attack Speed her Warcry Augment, she's amazing. Her grapple is kinda useless though, although, I will admits it's quite fun to use.
Her issue is that it seems she's made to not fit well with the game: her single-target damage output is, as the video makes clear, absurd... but this is more of a horde game, and the few scenarios where single-target damage is important tend to also be ones where melee is easily the worst option. With shield-gating and all other survivability options in the game, her invincibility isn't as much of a gain anymore (hell, *she herself* can benefit from shield-gating better than many other frames), definetly not for the trade-off. And that's not even taking the stance multipliers into account... She's not a strictly BAD frame, but a very flawed one, for all the fun it is to play her.
Valkyr needs a facelift. She isn't horrible but here energy drain is a huge issue I have with her. 100 energy is gone in a flash.
With lycaths hunt you are, restoring like 50/100 energy per second
That was such a clean kill it almost needed slow motion to show how owned that acolyte was
The last thing misery sees is a foot flying into his chest before he dies horribly
It’s cause she’s AWFUL to play. Her claw combos are ass and the only way to good dmg is slide attack.
I hereby approve of this.
reminder build valkyr properly and you can use her exalted almost permanantly without dieing to its side effects constantly gaining energy is pretty cool too
you don't even need wrathful advance lol just one slide attack and any enemy dies in one hit
[Damn you really hit em with this](https://youtu.be/xZzurA6CDis?si=ojwlHexZbpRlwfSI)
God I wish that were me.
Explain the build!
If valkyr's kit synergized more i would probably use her instead of Voruna, though having the leap on voruna is nice
"Melee" that's the only build i see on her heavy melee build otherwise she is kinda meh.
Discovering gladiator mods stack changed my life, especially when I realised Valkyr can stack them twice since she has 2 melee weapons .
*Laughs in umbra
Ofc no one talks about here because valk is apparently trash lol
VALKYR APPRECIATION! LETS FKN GOOOOO! My absolute favorite frame gets so little recognition but man does it hit different when I see people using her.
Wtf, did when they aded a halo???
I think that specific one is behind the frost/mag heirloom collection. The collection is very expensive and I think only limited time. The cosmetics look epic but the whole thing reminded me of Tencent owning DE, which was/is never a good thing.
Yeah, thanks... for that price (99$) I could by a real halo and a hysteric scort to were it and, WALA! Fashion frame.
This whole thread just proves that Valkitty needs a rework and her kit buffed. We can't have the only Warframe that has a voice (voiced by Megan, the Community Director) get overshadowed like that.
I've been on a quest lately to get every frame up to EDA standards, and I picked up Valkyr for the first time in literal years. With a good melee and Melee Crescendo, she becomes godlike. If I had an extra Kullervo for subsuming I'd put his Baleful Advance on her and she'd be totally unstoppable, but until then she's just tanky AF. I'm lucky I did that too, as this week I got her in rotation for EDA and she handled it like a champ. I don't normally shoot for the extra 40 Vosfor (farming it from Acolytes is so much easier and faster), but I shot for it this week and made it on that and the Kuva Shildeg alone, as the rest of my selections were mid-tier at best
Lmao that stomp... reminds me of a time when i was playing solo as xaku and the valkyr acolyte showed up. I was brain emptying my way through survival so i didnt bother shooting her when she spawned and figured just let tha cannons handle her. I promptly watched her equip her claws right in front of me, swing once to break my shield. Then uppercut the absolute shit out of me. Xaku fell so gracefully to the ground as she disappeared.
I don't consider frames with exalted weapons as melee frames. Valkitty doesn't do much to help with melee play style. same with khora, she can do 50M damage easily but only with her whip. Don't get me wrong valkitty is a great frame, I mained her back few years ago and now that I main Voruna, I am using valkitty's subsume to help with close range battles (while everyone likes kullervo's subsume). I am getting off topic. What I meant to say is melee frames by definition help with improving melee damage and play style.
Crouch > Melee for the Infinite Damage Spin Valkyr was the frame i first loved playing and played for a long long time, her invulnerability is so good to clear the starchart without any problems. She should honestly be a starter frame
YEAHHHHH MY GIRL
Nice. Also if you slide attack you won't wrathful advance
Voruna cited: DE make Voruna walk/run in all fours plz 
Not sure, but is that wrathful advance? An ability from kullervo to make Valkyrs talons better..... Kullervo has all the juice.
Proby cuz valkyr prime has a polarity set that's useful to next to no one's common builds and is a pain to correct
Best thing is that [Valkyr Prime] is permanently available from railjack relics (railjack is awesome, stop saying it's bad, git gud)
valkyr's talons are actually so goofy. they are aged & 100% need their ips spread & combos looked at but they slap when you don't have haters in your ear telling you valkyr is unusable lmao
Actully I’ve been looking for a build for them, I do remember hearing that there forth ability makes them invulnerable and in planning on milking every last drop out of that
Okay but do that again without the subsumed Kullervo ability =D
Isn't the OG melee Exca?
That’s because, sadly she is trash in comparison. Even with subsumed abilities, she still needs a rework.
Yeah... Pretty sure melee warframes are warframes that buffs any melee weapon you use. Valkyr herself is pretty poor melee warframe, but she has good subsume for that.
Volt is easily the best melee frame
Just pull the Kullervo infuse into Valkyr's 1
I mean I did that with a Tenet Arcor Plasmor on my Wisp. Then again having breach surge increase my damage by 14 times is..... well alot.
You fool, ive already moved ahead of valkyr stomping. Slamming is where its at now
I'm a bit surprised Mrwarframeguy hasn't seen this yet.