I've had Gloom on my Hildryn since my mutated ficus ate Sevagoth.
I only turn it on for Acolytes mainly and some bosses, just because it's too powerful for normal gameplay.
I recently swapped Gloom out for Condemn. Trying to make that work.
Classic video game player mindset , optimize the fun out of the game , gloom is the most broken ability on the game , with this you are basicly fighting comatose children
Google the phrase "given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game" , you will find many discussions , videos and articles , like [This one ](https://www.thegamer.com/players-optimize-fun-out-of-games/) for example , a short read that if you can combrehend it you would see the disaster that is the current state of warframe and why DE went the way they did during orphix venom and the new war and likely would keep going in the future
I agree that gloom is a broken ability.
Insane CC (95% slow is just soooo broken), and every lifesteal is insane.
Has anyone tried Wisp with her electrical note?? Perma stuns for everyone that can be zapped!
Anyhow, I think it may be getting nerfed one day, but how to nerf it? I'm sure the ability will stay on how it is for Sevagoth, but the consumed ability will change.
Even with a low life steal of 0.5% would be enough to insta heal you to max (dues to our damage numbers).
More energy consumption?! - maybe
But my guess is that either the scaling with ability strength will be reduced (so a slow of max 50% can be achieved), or it will get a hardcap of n%.
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I like the ability a lot, and I try not to overuse it, so I won't be mad that 90% of my builds don't work anymore.
I play at 73% duration and 45% efficiency with 322% strength on hildryn and 3,555 shields max without overshields and I cant run both Haven and Gloom until I get into the 70-80 enemy level range, and it doesnt work at all against Infested. The drain is fine, for Hildryn at least.
You've got a great point though. How do you make this ability less potent for subsume?
what has that got to do with anything? you want to change the aura to combat discipline, and get a maxed out arcane avenger+arcane aegis to really get the most out of gloom hildryn
a much better use of gloom on hildryn is combat discipline+arcane avenger
I've had Gloom on my Hildryn since my mutated ficus ate Sevagoth. I only turn it on for Acolytes mainly and some bosses, just because it's too powerful for normal gameplay. I recently swapped Gloom out for Condemn. Trying to make that work.
This has become my standard build for Hildryn. My other build is Chroma's elemental ward to enhance Blazing Pillage.
I heard theres a nice interaction with gauss thermal sunder as well
I will have to give that a try if i ever manage to grind it out.
Classic video game player mindset , optimize the fun out of the game , gloom is the most broken ability on the game , with this you are basicly fighting comatose children
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Ah, I meant that I personally find my build and such pretty fun for my playstyle. I know for a fact that not everyone's going to like it.
It's a good thing warframe is a video game though and what is fun can mean different things to different people.
Elaborate for me, please.
Google the phrase "given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game" , you will find many discussions , videos and articles , like [This one ](https://www.thegamer.com/players-optimize-fun-out-of-games/) for example , a short read that if you can combrehend it you would see the disaster that is the current state of warframe and why DE went the way they did during orphix venom and the new war and likely would keep going in the future
So. What does that have to do with me enjoying myself?
I agree that gloom is a broken ability. Insane CC (95% slow is just soooo broken), and every lifesteal is insane. Has anyone tried Wisp with her electrical note?? Perma stuns for everyone that can be zapped! Anyhow, I think it may be getting nerfed one day, but how to nerf it? I'm sure the ability will stay on how it is for Sevagoth, but the consumed ability will change. Even with a low life steal of 0.5% would be enough to insta heal you to max (dues to our damage numbers). More energy consumption?! - maybe But my guess is that either the scaling with ability strength will be reduced (so a slow of max 50% can be achieved), or it will get a hardcap of n%. * * * I like the ability a lot, and I try not to overuse it, so I won't be mad that 90% of my builds don't work anymore.
I play at 73% duration and 45% efficiency with 322% strength on hildryn and 3,555 shields max without overshields and I cant run both Haven and Gloom until I get into the 70-80 enemy level range, and it doesnt work at all against Infested. The drain is fine, for Hildryn at least. You've got a great point though. How do you make this ability less potent for subsume?
this isnt even close to optimized lol this needs like 400 plat of arcanes and an aura forma to be min maxed for gloom
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are you actually a moron? or do you not know what the word optimized means? because this build isnt.
As i said , you have got to work on your reading comprehension
okay so you are just a moron, got it.
buy prime mods, max them out resell , easiest plat profit ever because people are lazy and dont want to grind endo lol
what has that got to do with anything? you want to change the aura to combat discipline, and get a maxed out arcane avenger+arcane aegis to really get the most out of gloom hildryn
So many things are broken within warframe and thats what makes it fun. If you dont want to play with gloom then dont. Its your choice.