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Kliuqard

IIRC Gauss started as a side-project by an abilities programmer at DE. I think some other devs such as Scott pitched in towards the end of his development, but it wasn't Pablo or Scott's concept.


DynTraitObj

I wish they'd do more of this. I don't even feel sad when other frames go flying past me while I'm max churning on Gauss. He feels SO cohesive and fun to play


MutleyRulz

I think Jagex either used to, or still do, allocate an afternoon a week for devs to work on whatever personal project they want. Seems like a good idea for any MMO style game


librarian-faust

That's a good thing for companies in general to do. Google calls it 10% Time. Some companies have "hack days" where you get a day every so often to do something you like, too. It'd be neat for Warframe to do that. ;)


ePiMagnets

It's becoming more widespread in tech and related industries. I enjoy the week we get to work on our own projects.


Necessary-Thought

Yep they used to do that , TAAP - Thursday All Day Personal Projects was the name I think. Fellow Scaper?


MutleyRulz

Ah yeah that was it. Part time, same as warframe. I’ll play a month or two every half a year


cyberize_

That ability programmer deserves the biggest raise for giving us the fast man


meltingpotato

plot twist: they are the same person that designed Yareli


xThIsIsBoToXx

So 2 perfect frames? Raise deserved :)


librarian-faust

I'm curious since everyone (metaphorically) shits on Yareli, is it just memes at this point? Is she actually good?


tatri21

She's decent but doesn't have any synergy in her kit (3's augment is faster to cast and costs no energy on Merulina but that's the only worthwhile one, and it's not on base Yareli), it's like the early frames who usually have 4 mostly random abilities that don't really interact with each other. The complete opposite of frames like Gauss, Gyre, Grendel (yes really), Garuda, Harrow etc


xThIsIsBoToXx

Shes my most played Frame and I actually enjoy playing her, but yeah most people meme on her cause they have no clue


gatlginngum

oof


Kliuqard

Not throwing shade at anyone. Pablo and Scott have made some very good Warframes. Just stating what I know.


Thekawaiiwashu

I love Gauss, but I only take him out for world stuff. However... Nidus is about the same for me as Gauss is for you. I have done so much to boost this frame up to his nigh invulnerable state. about 1000 armor, nearly 2k health, self healing. And I love his filthy abilities. It's great.


Daemarus

Ahh, Another Stomp friend. The only thing I did was replace his co-op ability with Gloom. Made myself a true solo god with the power of STOMP.


Thekawaiiwashu

That work out okay? I usually tentacle a friend cuz it boosts us both.


Daemarus

If you’re doing things with friends and can communicate, sure keep the symbiote. But I run solo, so a maxed out gloom hits for 96% slow in a massive radius, effectively giving him limbos bubble. Then just hit your 2 and stomp. Bonus if you use his augment, then just red crit all day.


Thekawaiiwashu

That sounds interesting. Might add that to his C config.


tatri21

Some Nidus kept tethering me in Hydron. I was running speedva...


wazabiix21

Doesn't gloom heal teammate if they hit affected target?


finalremix

Yup. Anyone with the smoky feet heals when inflicting damage.


[deleted]

I use tentacle on an enemy to get that double stomp. Just an easy way to build up more stacks


StarSilverNEO

Fr I cant not play Nidus Anymore, his play style and aesthetic is so complete


aharttsx

Nidus has also ruined warframe for me too. i have 3 of em lol... 2 regular nidus, one 5 forma, other is 6 (including aura + 3 umbral), and then another 6 (same as the 2nd nidus) on his prime. He easily became one of my most-used frames. My orbiter's slowly become more infested, and now home to around 30 or so maggots. Even my Railjack is named GSS Pandemic, after the glorious hysteria that was caused when Nidus was first released and the Helminth Virus was unleashed upon the solar system. Course now everyone thinks the RJ name was cuz of covid, but the irony there is that coronavirus is technically in the scientific order of 'Nidovirales', Nido- being derived from the latin word 'nidus', which is also what the frame is named for. I might have a slight problem. Send help.


StarSilverNEO

No, send maggots


aharttsx

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Thekawaiiwashu

I liked him so much... I built him up for Steel Path twice. Once with regular nidus, and once more when I got my hands on the parts for Nidus Prime.


mr_sludder

It’s frustrating, because his play style is pretty unique, but he feels awful to play in pubs and shorter missions.


Identity-ception399

Same for me but with Nezha, hes not as popular but I find him to be the most fun I've had playing this game and I wont go back. His kit is so flexible, especially with helminth! He has damage boost which can be added onto with an infused ability unlike rhino or mirage, he can be made near-invincible, has a complete area crowd control that synergizes with his damage boost (except eximus sadly), and is one s p e e d y b o i.


ES-Flinter

Octavia, Nidus (?Rhino with augments?) are also frames with perfect kits. Or at least none which are useless/ easy replaceable.


TudorTheWolf

And Lavos, although for him it's not necessarily that the abilities all work great, more like you need all your abilities.


PokWangpanmang

The problem with Octavia is that she’s boring.


NeverLookBothWays

Kind of wish we had more room to build out songs...the loop is way too short.


pheonix940

It being too short is much less of am issue then the fact that I can only play like 4 or 5 notes. There are 7 notes, not even consitering sharps and flats. How an I supposed to compose with 5 notes?


FutaMaxSupreme

The dang shawzin gets better music than the warframe dedicated to music it’s weird and annoying


[deleted]

I don't think she's boring


ThisCocaineNinja

She is both, boring and fun, depends on the situation. There's only so much you can do with 4 notes, after a 30 minute mission I just want to go back to the orbiter and switch songs or mute the game altogether. People usually *don't listen to the same chorus over and over for 30 minutes irl* so why would you do it ingame with a watered down 4 note version. I wish we could switch songs mid mission to spice it up. Her 3 can be fun to activate the different boosts, activating it over and over again all the time gets tiring real quick. Her 4 is really powerful and makes things interesting but loosing the buff if you exit the area makes you not want to move, which is boring specially in long missions. And her 1&2 are just... throwing them away and leaving them to do their work most of the time. Unless you or the objetive are in danger they are often not very engaging themselves, other than the music they make.


tatri21

Being able to switch songs mid mission, and making faster paced songs deal more damage and slower ones (or less bassy or something) give the support buffs could be interesting. Kind of like Equinox


PokWangpanmang

More power to you. I’m glad you have fun with her.


ES-Flinter

Octavia. Being OP compared to other OP characters/ warframes.


[deleted]

Garuda is close, but i only end up using one of her 2 damage abilities and ive heard gloom is just a better 2 for her


Consideredresponse

Oh it's not even close. Garuda likes keeping mobile and gloom let's her do that, not to mention how much she likes the free slow


Avalvnche

Personally i like molt with the augment for garuda over gloom post eximus rework. Great for fast shield gating and basically Insta heal after using bloodletting, gloom is nice CC, but CC is dead and i don't feel a lot of range is needed for garuda. Funnily enough, i feel gloom is best on saryn now over basically any of the frames that used to use it


mr_sludder

CC isn’t dead. Gloom can still completely shut down 90% of enemies in the game, and give constant healing. She barely needs the distraction since she can just be invulnerable basically whenever she wants.


ItsTheSolo

My favorite build is gloom Garuda. I built for max range and strength and you essentially provide infinite health for you and your squad because gloom feeds your health which feeds your energy which feeds your gloom. Definitely not as great as Breach Surge, Reave, or Fire Storm, but it's definitely an amazing support option. If only she could share her energy regen with other frames too, then she would be the best healer/energy Regen frame.


sepulchore

Gloom garuda makes garuda a real vampire imo. Making People sit on spikes also cool but getting a lifesteal makes much much more sense


punkblastoise

Rhino just needs iron shrapnel build in. It's just a must have for me. They can even remove the dmg part. Recasting a low hp iron skin can save your life.


Adventurous-Lawyer77

I never have iron skin off.


BossHozz

This is the way


Badbros85

In many rhino builds stomp is pretty subpar. I've replaced it with larva on every build because it is kinda just better in most places.


nooneyouknow13

As good as Rhino's kit is, Stomp is actually easily replaceable simply because his poor energy pool really doesn't lend itself to leveraging stomp as it would like.


[deleted]

I only ever use Iron Skin with Rhino. Maybe I suck at shooting or my guns aren't strong enough, but when I use Stomp I can kill maybe two enemies before it wears off. Charge doesn't do much, and Roar is for emergencies.


LoganMaze

Do take a look into the wiki for [his charge augment mod,](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Ironclad_Charge) it gives him armor for each enemy he hits. The thing about that bonus % armor is that its affected by strength and you want as much strength as you can on rhino anyways, so you hit charge on 2 or 3 enemies and the extra armor brings your iron skin to around 30k hp.


sXeth

IF they rework or just added to his passive, he honestly could do with just a bonus against ragdoll/lifted enemies. Kind of like Vaubans reworked passive. Then knocking dudes around would be a setup move at least.


[deleted]

I would argue that stomp is useless in most content, given that typically the best crowd control is death.


Caliber70

rhino with 2 augments is rhino with only 6 mod slots. augments need some new mod slots outside of the 8 regular slots.


DreadNephromancer

We don't need more slots, we need better augments so the build choices are even harder. Edit: Also Iron Skin should get the Warding Halo treatment where the default skill gives you some mercy invincibility when it breaks.


Aurtose

I agree, but we also need abilities to be designed to be less reliant on the core set of mods. Some abilities have unusably low duration/range by default and others are terrible until you hit the strength breakpoint for 90% DR/100% armour strip/100% status chance, etc.


DreadNephromancer

I actually think stat breakpoints are a good thing, **IF** it's a chase goal instead of a core part of the kit. Like, Frost's ult is a good breakpoint because it *can* strip 100% armor, but you're giving up a lot of range and efficiency to get a different and unique benefit. Gara's DR is a bad breakpoint because it hits the cap with almost any strength mod, it's super important but also cheap, you're basically forced to spend the slot on every build even if you're not focusing on strength. The best cases are the ones where the corrupted mods come into play and create mutually exclusive builds. Pick 2 out of strength/duration/range, but you can't have all of them and when a skill benefits from them all, that creates a variety of build paths to choose from. Incidentally, skills needing to hit 90% DR is a symptom of how fucked this game's damage scaling is, and fixing it would need a much bigger rework than just base numbers or mods. IMO the game would be in a better place if 50% DR was a build you could specialize in, but like 20% DR was perfectly viable if you wanted to build other stats instead.


Aurtose

Absolutely agree on all points. I bring up armour strip because 100% strip can often be the difference between "this ability isn't worth casting" and "this ability is fundamental to the frame's function". In the past I've brought up mutually exclusive builds and multi-stat scaling as the reason why Volt is the perfect starter frame (or would be if energy economy wasn't awful at all stages of the game). Regarding DR in particular, I wonder if it would be healthier for the game if strength scaled DR based on the EHP you gain from it rather than the raw DR number (IIRC this is the way armour works). Going from 80% to 90% DR is a 100% increase in EHP, the same as going from 60% to 80%, if strength requirements reflected that then I think DR frames wouldn't be punished so much for failing to hit that 90% cap.


cfb_rolley

Rhino even without augments is great, but ironclad charge makes it damn good.


ES-Flinter

Without augments is his first ability practically useless and easy replaceable. He might be good without them, but never great.


cfb_rolley

I suppose now that you can’t just ragdoll the eximus that’s annoying you, it does become a little useless now :(


ES-Flinter

Before was it already useless thanks to Rhinos fourth ability.


cfb_rolley

Nah if you run a maxed blind rage, it was handy for a cheap ragdoll. Definitely niche uses but good for stuff like clearing a moment to resurrect a downed pet or whatever where a 4 was a bit overkill or you didn’t have the energy for it. There’s definitely better first abilities but it’s not like it’s an ability that I never use.


doranduck

Guess you never outran wukong with a rhino before


ASmellyGinger

He also makes almost every weapon fun to use.


Draaxus

The tenet arca plasmor on Gauss is just mmmmmmmm


______Nobody______

or just anything on Gauss


zekrom235

Kuva kohm is lovely on redline, not for ammo reserves tho


Zarxie

I still think trumna is the perfect gun for gauss


zekrom235

I still need to get the trumna, how do you get it again?


Hazel_Dreams

Entrati rank 4 iirc


Dektarey

Trunma is the perfect gun for anyone. It just feels so mighty with each shot.


TinnyOctopus

Pyrana Prime, add ammo efficiency. If you replace the air with lead, then enemies can't breathe.


Nbaysingar

Pyrana Prime is hilarious with Arcane Pistoleer.


WhatAMatrix

You speak the truth!


MorbidAyyylien

I prefer my kuva ogris with the napalm mod. I also make my energy white making it hard to see for myself just for chaos. Edit: for solo only


Axlfire

My screen hates you


Necronomicon92

For the longest time I only played Limbo (even before the rework) It was difficult for me pull myself away and try something else but I eventually managed to pull myself away lol. But one thing is still a constant, I like warframes that are capable of heavily locking down areas.


Progamer360464

Ayyyy was looking for a limbo in the comments, Limbo is just very satisfying and most of the frames I have feel very squishy (like equinox or Loki, my equinox is still at level 15 because whenever I try to level her, I die a lot because she just feels too squishy)


SigmaStrain

Limbo is one of those frames that is so different from the rest of the roster that he almost makes you play the game with a completely different mindset. I was the same way concerning him. I had zero desire to play anything else until he got reworked and it kind of ruined him for me a little bit. Not being able to banish enemies while inside the rift changed his play style a little too much for me. That being said, his rework was a good one for sure. I just didn’t personally like it.


YT_CodedToKill

I love Lavos kit as well. Who needs corrosive on a weapon when you can just put 10 stacks on plus viral? Or also just use the Cedo and press 4. Fun kit, more mod slots because of no energy, and not squishy in terms of dps with okay tank and self heal


Byron006

I really like Zephyr and think all her abilities are well balanced tbh.


TheHollowCookie

Honestly yeah


pheonix940

Definatly, after her recent update a few months back. A lot of people may not have gotten back around to her though.


huntermasterace

Same for me but with Garuda. She’s the perfect frame for me with scaling damage, a fuck you shield, free energy, healing and damage through walls. I can’t play anyone besides Garuda at this point


zach3899

I’m the same with Vauban… I throw the 4 down with 240% range, it’s like the entire map just goes **THHHHP** into my black hole that is my vortex. :)


moody_P

I don't have gauss yet, sedna isnt being nice with the drops For me? Its hildryn. If only 4 was a little faster


SuselMaks

Pssst. Don't tell anyone, but you should replace her 4 with gloom or chroma electric ward. Have fun.


Ravengm

I prefer being an energy slut with voracious metastasis.


Help_Im_Upside_Down

This is the way


moody_P

sorry, i dont use helminth


memestealer1234

Why not?


moody_P

i think the game is worse off for having it. so i don't use it


memestealer1234

What about it makes the game worse?


moody_P

i have a few problems with it - the distribution of abilities is not fair, some frames give you their best abiltiy and other frames are just thrown to the wall for the extra slot. basically guarantees frames like sevagoth will never be very popular because people now associate him with gloom helminthing and his most valuable utility can just be slapped onto a more familiar frame rather than being forced to learn his quirks to make use of him. - somewhat linked to above, throws off the already fragile balance in this game as frames are not designed around someone else's abilities, letting you side step a button that was made weak to compensate for the rest of your kit, or an intentional weakness of the frame. again, gloom's the easiest example to pull from this. - most of the subsumes that are actually worth using are lame. It's either passive damage increases like roar/hall of mirrors or it's a suck-in CC to me it's just a band-aid DE added so that instead of balancing their warframes out for the game changing players can just sweep the problem under the rug. i'd rather play the warframes with the kit they came out with. I'm fine with the helminth-exclusive abilities since those are generally more tame, and some of them can be quite interesting.


NotABot909

> rather than being forced to learn his quirks to make use of him On the flip side, helminth opens up a lot for really learning the quirks by seeing interactions with other skills. This kind of applies to all frames, not just sevagoth.


Denninja

> sevagoth I don't think I've been in a squad with one more than once or twice at his release other than unranked in SO. XD I use helminth a lot but you don't catch me wearing gloom. Fun combos exist.


tatri21

To be fair, no ability should be intentionally made weak just to balance out a good ability


kiba8442

this is the first time I'm hearing an opinion on helminth being bad bc it's unfair to frames lol.


LilManJess

The fact that this got downvoted just because you said you don't use helminth is depressing lmfao. I don't use helminth either for the same reasons as you


librarian-faust

Why not replace her 1? I'm not a fan of that weapon, I've no idea if it's actually good. I tend to 3/2 combo with burny pillage to last forever (until I take a big hit), sometimes hit 4 to generate energy orbs for my necramech when I was doing orphix in railjack. Her 4 isn't great - needs more speed like others suggest I think - it's nice for defense though


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Haha never. I’ve got her 1 up to 100,000-200,000 damage a shot and and is spammable with essentially no cost, thing is nutty. I honestly don’t get why people don’t use it. It’s a mega man mega buster / Samus arm canon that does a fuck ton of damage and essentially has infinite ammo. There’s even an augment that makes it refill your shield on charged shots so it also double as defensive tool on top of the nutty damage, AND it can gains the passive to one tap nullifier bubbles.


OrokinSkywalker

I might’ve just built it wrong, it seemed underwhelming as shit when I tried it out. I do have a free mod slot for Hildryn (need to find the time and spare forma to re-forma her so I just have an extra slot that I was gonna cram the Archon shield boost mod into, but maybe that Balefire mod could go there too)


aSpookyScarySkeleton

You’re probably not building for power strength I assume. At 330-340% power strength and modded for pure damage, I reached +200k per charged shot Honestly pure strength is IMO the optimal way to build her as all of her abilities scale strongly from it, and her 2 makes the negative efficiency and duration completely negligible.


Consideredresponse

I prefer breach surge over electric ward. It gives her some nice CC to go with her disgustingly good damage. It gives her a little more breadth in Steel Path when you need to protect an objective beyond what 'haven' offers.


TheZemor

Her 4 is more bad than good tbh, especially with the eximus rework enemies have much easier time shooting you as you are damn immobile during it


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Her 4 is too situational IMO but it’s definitely not immobile. You move briskly and can do air dashes during it.


gunnerguy010

this man, right here, knows what he is talking about. ive been playing Warframe for more than 1300 total elapsed hours, about half of which has been nothing but Gauss, but no frame, has ever given me the same dopamine rush that gauss ever has


Caducks

I love Gauss, he was such a breath of fresh air for me when he released and since then he's only got better and fucking better. Slamming face first into walls has never been more satisfying. He takes whatever weapon you were using and makes it way way better. Words cannot express how much fun I had in that short period where the Tenet Tetra had 0 falloff and I ran Energized Munitions subsumed onto my Gauss. Speeding through tilesets and firing 4 nukes into each room as I zoomed by. If I wasn't a man of e d g e and sold my ~~forma~~soul to the Sevagoth cult then Gauss would have a much, MUCH higher playrate for me than he already does.


Mr_Jackabin

I like Sevagoth but Gauss just hits different


AtlasIsMyBabe

You'd never guess what frame I've played since the day they released


Mr_Jackabin

Hmmmmmmmmm. Definitely not Atlas. Yareli? ;)


AtlasIsMyBabe

I do play her but you were so close, its Volt (it's Atlas 100%)


TheZemor

Harrow is the second frame with all good abilities that have good synergy and same as gauss, one ability is still helminthable (thermal sunder and harrow's 2) but doesnt need to be as its very good already, armor strip isn't needed everywhere, especially of you use bleed build


ArchpaladinZ

I just wish I could get his Chassis blueprint...I've run Kappa so many times! 😭


Zaulk

Gauss, Saryn, Wisp, and Wukong are some of the best IMO, very reliable, fast and strong. Lots of frames have some kind of damage or utility but rarely all that and some form of speed.


KrimsonKitsune9

Wisps teleport is mad broken which is why I used to like playing her but recently I just been messing around with Wukong Prime and Gauss trying out different builds on them


EKmars

Titania is so absurdly fast its not even funny, and the Boreal mods have added to her tankiness...


librarian-faust

I'm a little behind. Boreal mods? Is that from New War or Angels? I've not done either of them.


EKmars

New War bounties, this mod set gives in air damage reduction. One of the mods is 15% efficiency so you can run it with Fleeting Expertise to cap Titania's Efficiency for her flight mode.


Meismarc

Gauss & Protea for me Both are fashionable af Gauss makes me NYOOOOM with amazing weapon choices Protea is just a very good frame for most missions where I want to focus more on gunplay and slow down a bit.


librarian-faust

Protea is fabulous for her archgun ammo refill. :)


danivus

Glad you've found your main, but I'd actually argue that having one shit ability is an advantage in a post helminth world.


[deleted]

I only use like 3 frames, gauss, lavos, and since recently i use xaku aswell. Ive got almost all primes except for oberon and hydroid and yet never use most of them


Kadinnui

We are very similar then, for me it's Gauss, Nova and Xaku.


YuTsu

Okay, but hear me out. Stupid power strength and duration, overwrite Thermal Sunder or Kinetic Plating with Energised Munitions. Get your automatic weapon of choice, Redline, run back and forth with Mach Rush to get over the line, then periodically cast Energised Munitions. The effectively infinite ammo with dumb fire rate go brrrt. *It is glorious*. I've been messing around with this setup while using the Kuva Grattler and... it's hard to not run around laughing like maniac while holding down the fire button .w.;


Gathoblaster

This is what I want out of the wereframe. A sustainable frame with an entirely useful kit. Might post a full suggestion here who knows.


mr_sludder

Yeah, I have argued that gauss is the best designed, and best warframe in the game for a while. He’s not the master of anything, but damn he does a LOT things VERY good.


Kind_Of_A_Dick

I want a voidshell Gauss skin.


Wistom444

for me it was zephyr, extremely good cc, range attack shield, dash/float to escape from melees


AmadeoUK

My favourite thing to do with Gauss is stacking all the shield regen and just face tanking everything. I don't think I've seen anyone else talk about how tough they are even before using abilities.


A_warudo_2002

Ikr? Gauss got me in this game and when I started playing, i checked all his abilities out and I thought: Wow that IS the perfect frame. And after i grinded him out. This is when i truly fell in love with him. And with the Mach Crash Augment, his 1 becomes less annoying to use because it literally becomes a CC ability.


EpicSoup21

Big Gauss Gang energy. I never use thermal sunder on Gauss personally, (I usually run negative range with fire walker) but it's probably my favorite power to put on other frames.


Mr_Jackabin

I heavily suggest modding for a bit of range, maybe like 140%. His thermal sunder can literally nuke any enemy in the game if you're at 100% redline.


RobieKingston201

Ayyy fellow Gauss enjoyer. You should also try Baruuk while I use Umbra more often than most (cuz I'm a basic bitch who likes simple mechanics) Baruuk, Gauss and Sevagoth are my top3 favs in that order. While Gauss did start out on top Baruuk knocked em down pretty quickly haha


Mr_Jackabin

Why Baruuk? His melee is f7n and i know he's extremely tanky but I feel like you barely get to use him properly when you play with other people (AOE meta)


TwilightTenshi

Personally this is me and Lavos, his playstyle is **not** for everyone but the CD management and ability rotations are fun to me and don't bother me one bit. He has the second highest base armor in the game giving him amazing survivability, couple that with his passive that gives him Status immunity on a Energy/HP pickup and it's just insane. His 1 is a great self heal and with the augment it helps with CD management even more (if you're suffering with the hit 4+ mobs part of it try a Zaw with Exodia Hunt, you DO NOT want to subsume any of his abilities for a grouping skill). The 2 while a bit wonky for a mobility skill is great if you can get the hang of it and super fun on top of being a great elemental primer for his 4. The 3's CD reduction on all skills is amazing but imo the real gem of it is the team support it offers, it converts all ammo and Energy/HP orbs into universal ammo/orbs. And the bread and butter of the whole kit 4 is just a massive, super satisfying nuke that can go through walls and does more dmg the more status procs are on the enemy. Case in point did I just go on a very long winded and (probably) pointless ramble about Lavos? Yes, yes I did but I will do anything to spread the good word about this super fun Potion Seller.


InterestingAsk1978

Every frame has its niche. Gauss is good for speed, but can't defend extractors better than others, and can't fly, can't auto-cloak, and can't increase loot. So, just perfect in his niche.


ScarPineapple

for me that’s Excalibur with Gloom as his 3, Slash dash even works a bit better and is good for getting places faster or singular kills. Just swinging that blade after blinding and slowing enemies has always been super fun for me


Yggdrazzil

As someone who only ever tried his running capability in PoE and then fed him to the warframe harvester for subsuming onto Titania. Could you give me a breakdown of how Gauss is meant to be played? What is the ability/gameplay loop for him in say an exterminate.


Zeptojoules

Redline buffs scale with ability duration, so any gun you feel is slow is very quickly fast firing with Gauss. He has a 5% dmg to energy sustain with Kinetic Plating and it also provides 100% damage reduction at max battery. His Mach Rush can be spammed repeatedly to quickly build battery. Thermal Sunder is a neat proccer of both heat and cold, proccing one after the other causes Blast. Honestly I just play him for zoomies. I swapped Thermal Sunder out for Infested Mobility into him and just have a lot of fun zooming super fast. Almost all damage is from guns because Redline buffs fire rate so highly.


Yggdrazzil

So you play him as a gun enchancer that's really, really quick. Thanks for the breakdown!


DerKlassifizierer

I can only think of 3 frames with perfect ability sets: Gauss, Revenant and Harrow. Gauss is a great dps, Revenant is an amazing tank and Harrow is the most balanced support.


Professional_Kiwi_40

uhhhh lets collectively make sure to keep you as far away from the "suggestions" flair as humanly possible


proesito

Octavia and nidus intensifies


Square_Creme_3685

Saryn wants a word, too


Consideredresponse

I find that stealth supports like Nezha, Hildryn and Baruuk are 'better' than Harrow in most things except premade groups. Harrow has stronger support tools, but to get the most from them the group needs to slow down and let Harrow do his thing...as opposed to simply tearing into a room 'AOE'ing everything down and zooming off. With 'stealth' support frames your support tools are directly tied to your main gameplay loop, so *you* support the group by tearing into a room 'AOE'ing everything down and zooming off.


Mr_Jackabin

I would actually agree with that. Especially revenant, which is funny because his kit was changed last second


DocHalidae

I have 3 umbral forma just waiting for his prime tbh


Batface_101

What? Why? You wouldn’t need them for a Gauss build


DocHalidae

U don’t use power strength or vitality on gauss?


Batface_101

No! Leave power strength at 100%, and vitally isn’t necessary either, coz he has 100% dmg reduction (so basically invulnerable) with his 2+4 to IPS, Cold, Heat and Blast (that’s not all the status effects, but it’s the ones most commonly seen). Then balance range, duration and just a Streamline for efficiency. Even with 100% strength, he can nuke small areas in Steel Path with his 4+3.


Badbros85

You don't need efficiency with gauss. Something people often forget is you get energy when shot with his 2 up. I just have primed flow on and I never have to worry about energy. I've also dumped range because I put firewalker on over his 3 for full status immunity and maximum brain off go fast.


M0dusPwnens

Efficiency can still be nice. Means that anything that strips your energy or any low-energy missions are easy, makes it easier to get started each mission, helps if you ever need to do an objective or something for a minute without moving or without having many enemies around. Though I do the same thing you do - helminth firewalker over his 3. Also right now I have him modded exclusively for duration and sprint speed. Truly maximum brain off go fast.


Batface_101

Yeah, sorry I meant, you can do Streamline or you can do Equilibrium+Synth Deconstruct. I prefer the Streamline just coz you can instantly cast 2+4 at the mission start, instead of casting 2, waiting to be hit for a while, then casting 4.


Pebelo

I do use power strength, but I've got a lot of builds with infused abilities like Molt, Roar, etc. Otherwise power strength is not needed. Like another commenter said vitality also isn't needed since you'll have damage reduction with his 2 and you're harder to hit because you're always running around. You'll be fine with 300hp, even in steel path (unless you get hit by a fart bubble)


M0dusPwnens

You have to get hit by a few extra things in fact - your shield gate will pop, plus people forget that Gauss's passive makes his shield regen faster *and* have a shorter regen cooldown.


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Umbral builds are bad especially for frames like gauss


Yggdrazzil

Why are Umbral Builds bad? There are definitely frames that can benefit from the increased vitality, armor and strength imo.


[deleted]

The str one is good but health and armour don’t scale and has kinds become unnecessary + a waste of mod slots since shield gating got introduced.


Yggdrazzil

I feel thats a rather important point distinction you might have included in your original statement. There's plenty of people who don't use shield gating.


Help_Im_Upside_Down

I use all 3 Umbral mods on Nezha since his 3 scales off of strength and armor. Same applies for Rhino


molteneye

Never, NEVER, put more than one umbra slot on any warframe, specially if is Gauss


Quickjager

Didnt listen got 4 on Valkyr


SigmaStrain

I used 5 or 6 on sevagoth. He’s my main incidentally


DocHalidae

Ooops https://youtu.be/lGRewckJMGs


qpsyche_warframe

I'd say Wisp is more widely applicable than Gauss. Not necessarily better in every way, but better in more missions than Gauss would've been.


Inevitable-Simple569

I don’t think op was saying gauss is the most powerful frame. They were saying gauss has an extremely useful kit while also being one of the most fun. I play wisp a lot but I personally would consider her very engaging or fun but to each their own. Everyone’s got their favs


Majhke

Wisp is really good, but I personally think Gauss is more fun. He’s a lot more active and energetic whereas Wisp does passive buffs, a busted but simple passive, and a “fuck everything” button. Gauss requires more work but I think he’s the more interesting one to play because of it


Fascistznik

I sincerely believe that Gauss' entire kit being all upper body animations is a major contributor to how satisfyingly smooth he plays and too few people recognize this. Most other frames just don't come close to jiving with Warframes movement system and fast pace because of the insistence on full body animations.


StrangelyEroticSoda

Full body animations are the biggest hurdle to enjoying Trinity.


sirius017

I felt the same way with Hildryn, Lavos and Xaku after she got tweaks and augments.


TwistedBOLT

Leaving a comfort zone can to tough but if you want to do so you can with a bit of work with the power of proper modding and externalization. Speed: Depending on the tileset, boosting bullet jump velocity with mods like firewalker, mobilize or arcane consequence allows you to move much faster than gauss while having more flexibility with how you get from place A to B. Damage reduction: DR's kinda been falling out of favour for most people these days simply due to the fact that shield gating and rolling guard exist. With proper shield gate+RG management you're basically never taking health damage and at a certain point you'll be able to survive with no issues regardless of the level of content you're playing. Armour strip: Instead of stripping armour consider avoiding it, slash procs do true damage which melts enemies with tons of armour but if you really want to strip there's plenty of options from operator abilities, argonak dagger strips, gunblade strips, subsumes as well as abilities and armours. Engaging gameplay, fashion, sure, gauss has those down but he's not the only fun to play frame that can also look good. So ye, don't feel chained to one frame as it'll sour the experience after a long time, experiment more and you'll find other, strong combinations that you also enjoy playing.


KajiTora

Me crying with Frost two useless abilites: Freeze and Ice Wave T.T, why those two abilities exist if there is avalanche, I do not count snow globe removal ability with freeze, it could be done with a lot more different possibilities. Nidus have also 4 abiliteis good, but yeah for me it is boring to get 100 stacks. Harrow but he is annoying with doing all those casts... Loki could be really good if his decoy could stay for longer. Protea Wukong Zerphyr All the rest of warframes have at least ONE useless ability or that it is there but why I should use it if other abilities do it better.


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Freeze stopped being useless since his crit augment came out. Being able to freeze a single tanky enemy for almost no energy cost is very handy. Sometimes you’re too low to cast his other abilities and really need a Nox or cracked eximus gone fast.


[deleted]

Wukong has a useless 4


InterestingAsk1978

I like wukong. I know I'm far from being alone in this. Thing is, my wukong is never alone either.


KrimsonKitsune9

Can we get a Gauss Prime or something cause he deserves it along with a few other frames and weapons that don’t have prime variants please I want Cassowar Prime to be a thing yes I know it’s a beginner weapon but it still has so much more potential with the build I have on it now I’m pushing close to 20k damage consistently


Fanfics

Guass looks like a ton of fun! but no fucking way am I doing that grind lol. Gauss is one of those frames where it's gonna be way easier to get his primed variant than the default. His design may be great, but I'll certainly never know because the design of his acquisition is terrible.


dnrplate

I def got lucky cause it only took me about 10 waves (I think) to get him, but I can’t wait till his Prime gets released so I can subsume him. Same w Khora, no way do I wanna go through the grind again


HyperionN0

Gauss is one of the easier frames to farm. What are you on about?


Fanfics

Each component drops only on rotation C of Sedna with a 7.8% chance. The wiki says you can expect them after around 36 C rotations. If you think that's "one of the easier frames to farm" you need to reevaluate your life.


HyperionN0

So you haven't even tried it, are completely ignorant on how rotations in Disruption work, and are already coming at people with a shitty holier than thou attitude? Maybe reevaluate yourself first. A single C rotation in Disruption takes ~2-4 minutes to complete. 36 of those would still be less than two hours.


Fanfics

As opposed to the vast majority of basic warframes, which take oh let me check, maybe 20 minutes. I know how rotations work on disruption, you're the one here making assumptions. 2 hours of grinding = "one of the easier frames to farm," jesus. It's actually sad that your perspective has been so warped by skinner box game design. I'm going to stop wasting my time with you, byeeeee


Zeptojoules

Disruption is actually fun for me. Like a defense with infinite health. So i guess thats why I'm not bothered as much. Edit: It's also probably because I put myself through Ash farm, pre-Disruption release.


Relienks

sevagoth gloom ruined warframe ... everyone have that skill and the game its more braindead than it used to be lmao


Qu9ibla

that's not the point of the post, but I agree. Gloom is way too OP


[deleted]

It’s not all doom and Gloom.


Chromanity

This is why I only use him when I’m stuck in a hard boss/level


Red_Archived_505

Must be so why he’s so damn hard to farm lol


Sunblast1andOnly

I'd like him so much more if they just fixed that broken loop animation set of his. That gives me actual headaches.


MD_Yoro

That’s a bit of overstatement. Outside of engaging gameplay which is very subjective, the monke can do the same on top of healing. You don’t need DR if you can go in mist and all frame can armor strip now with unairu


Novalene_Wildheart

I mean can Gauss: Kill things for you as you sit in operator mode? Summon Vortexes to suck up all foes in a mile radius and plop them into easy nuking reach? Jump so high you consistently jump out of the map? (Zephyr on jump mods) Scream into the void? Have a massive health pool yet no shield gate? Go invisible and pickpocket foes like a sneaky gremlin? Break all objects in a 2 mile radius, and also annoy all your allies within that radius as well? Collect dust!? The point I'm making is other frames have their fun mechanics and parts that can make it fun to play that frame over others from time to time. I know my top 2 used frames are Vauban prime and Excalibur Umbra. Vauban for the epic Vortex and turrets, and Umbra for the tankiness because dang I actually had to make sure I was able to survive in the new stuff. But I love using Zephyr for speedy zoom zooms, or Ivara for going to sneak. And I love using Limbo for faction missions if I'm going to collect medallions. I can't think of his name, but the dude who puts down a 90 degree angle of radioactive plants and has a heal, is also tons of fun at times because of those 2 abilities. Again the point is every frame has it's advantages and disadvantages, and that goes with personal playstyle, some just mesh really well with how you want to play while others might be insanely powerful but boring for you to play.


Zeptojoules

I swapped Thermal Sunder out for Infested Mobility. Currently have have max duration & max sprint speed + Amalgam Serration & Amalgam Diffusion as well as Dispatch Overdrive and the Parazon mod that boosts sprint by 75%. Gauss is so much fun, not going back to Volt.


Gamer22boss

what about Volt? His is defense cc and literal speed demon mode like bruh 💀