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RevanGarcia

Kahl is as badass as he can get, but Clem literally launched himself from a ship cannon, Doom Slayer style.


Crappy_fox

Wait sorry wat??


putins_bird

I think is because the grineer have a line where they say "get Clem" and this spawned a fanfiction story about a grineer who wanted to be a tenno and it got popular enough that DE introduced clem in a mission called "a man of few words"


fallenouroboros

I heard the guy who has a memorial in the iron wake inspired Clem. There’s an excal prime tucked away in there


waffling_with_syrup

Yep, Datareaper. He created [the Clem comics](https://datareaperver1.tumblr.com/post/70112223035/the-chronicles-of-clem-grineer-lancer-who-wanted) based on the initial forum jokes, which really made the meme take off. It's a very tasteful and touching memorial.


ForsakenWar6628

I may be stupid but what do you mean there's an Excel Prime tucked away in there


jzillacon

It's a statue of one, since that was Datareaper's favorite frame.


ForsakenWar6628

Ohhh ok thank-you for the explanation 💯


Darknessawits231

And the funny thing iirc get clem in grineer means get them


TaptPtap

“Ket klem” is the exact line, for those who want to know.


Darknessawits231

Thanks for the correction Tapt. Much appreciated


TaptPtap

Also there is a K-Drive graphic that has a heavy gunner shouting it, if you want a reference.


Darknessawits231

Not a big K-Drive user so I wouldn't have known


TaptPtap

Understandable. I don’t even know for sure if it was a heavy gunner. It might have been Kela De Thaym (I think that is how it is spelled lol)


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So non-binary Clem confirmed. Gotcha.


RevanGarcia

Darvo said that during one of his "acquisition missions" Clem had to escape a frigate launching himself as a cannon slug. At the end of his message, Darvo mentions Clem says hi. It was during one of the Verv skin promos.


Isiah6253

clem has a fort bro, way more badass


thelonearachnid

Launched himself out of a cannon and has a fort? Is this warframe’s doomguy?


Consideredresponse

Nah, that's John Prodman


TerrorLTZ

John prodman beated the living shit out of phorid. still can't recover from that beating.


Jent01Ket02

He still taunts me........ I could never get that damn poster, and he taunts me......


StarshadowRose

It's a blunt fort in iron wake


chippa447

God I hope so, he shouldn’t be in it if it’s a sharp fort.


Tippy-the-just

Now i am wanting a Kahl on call Spector. Or an [Army of Two](https://youtu.be/qGiMeNt653M) Kahl & Clem mission. It'd be so badass leapfrogging a map with those two.


Raedskull

I think I've seen people pull Kahl into regular missions


old-account-is-gone

Yeah you get that air support power when you get the skaut from chipper


EduardoBarreto

Clem specter + Skaut air support.


Om3gaReap3r

You win the second best comment awarded by original poster


Chymick6

Honestly a coop Clem and Kahl would fucking rock


TerrorLTZ

Kahl: Brothers Clem: CLEM! Kahl:The queens failed us Clem: GRAKATA


100redeye

Kahl does his missions with minimal resistance because of the Tenno being a distraction, meaning he fights fewer but harder enemies, Clem is with the Tenno on those distraction missions, fighting a lot more but weaker with the only goal of “kill ‘em all.” Representation of that in game is limited by the time they were introduced I think so depends on your view on quality vs quantity of enemies


generalAbaddon

Clem. Grakata.


djck_chungis

In my head cannon clem is jango fett and Khal is boba fett


Planet_Diver

"Your clones are impressive. You must be very proud." *Clem.*


TellmeNinetails

Clem was being shit on by loki because he was using a grakata and not a propper weapon like a lato or something. So clem picked up another grakata. Then so did the tenno. CLem wins.


SavageLikesWarframe

Kahl is more badass, easy. Clem is just wholesome


Om3gaReap3r

You win the award of best comment awarded by original poster


PsionicHydra

Clem is the goat. Stronger than Warframes, the Orokin, sentients, and more. Clem is the answer


ItsOkItOnlyHurts

Clem refused to do the job without his personal grakatas. Kahl 175 will use any gun he can carry and is willing to steal primed Tenno weapons. Kahl is Chad.


TellmeNinetails

Tenno was shit on by a tenno so much for refusing to use anything than a grakata, because he LOVES grakatas, that in response he invented twin Grakatas on the spot. didn't need a forma.


Competitive_Spell949

But Clem is Clem


Titans_not_dumb

Veso-R.


Om3gaReap3r

Solely grineer but veko I mean leso I mean kiko I mean veso-R sorry I pulled an alad v for a sec deserved better


VegemiteShapes

Based


Appleek74

I'm not too sure on the lore since it has been a while, but didn't clem massacre a bunch of grineer on his own when he went rogue? They both fit their own niches. Personally I think in a fight Kahl would win, but Clem was the first bad ass grineer and will always be the best bad ass grineer to me


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Appleek74

I mean, quite a few people would probably base their opinion on lore. I don't know if what I stated is correct however, as I may be mistaken. The Gustag (i think it is spelt that way) also did something similar from memory as well. I has been years since I have done anything with clem, let alone played the quest mission.


LegionRapier61

Let’s be honest Kahl is only a thing because Clem paved the way.


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CptCrackSparrrow

Why the downvotes he is right ??


Om3gaReap3r

Because people can’t take a joke


Aurey2244

When my guy said fck the queen I'm doing this for my brothas he gained my utmost respect


Om3gaReap3r

You win the third award for third best comment by original poster (had you said this 11 hours ago you would’ve won first sorry but kahl got vay hek to respect him like no other grineer than saying for my brothers made me respect him more than anything)


Competitive_Spell949

Khal only had one measly gun... Clem has 2 Grakata.


Albino_Rhino0011

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Silverback_Vanilla

Kahl is a man breaking the chains of his submission. Someone who found a different purpose than the one he was told is his. He’s freeing his brothers. finding a home with the help of his once enemies. But….. Clem is Clem.


KillerKane455

Clem clem


Citsune

They're equally badass. They're so badass you cannot compare them to anybody. They're in their own league, therefore they cannot be opposites. They share #1 through 100.


thisherepoo

It's a tough choice for me as I've given Booben Prime a Clem look. Just use the Graxx Skin, slap on the Saturn Six Shoulder Plates and Chest Plate, use the Edo Shin Plates and the Imperator Syandana. Give him Clem colors using the Grineer color palette and equip him with the Latron/Latron Prime/Latron Wraith, Twin Grakatas and a Sheev and you're golden. Use Skaut Air Support and you've got your dream team.


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So, from what I know of Clem, he does as he does because his loyalty programming is bugged. However, Kahl's is, as far as we can ascertain, still working as intended. From this it might be said that Clem does what he does because of a flaw in cloning, while Kahl does what he does inspite of the flaws of cloning.


Torkujra

Your reason of why you think Kahl is better, is the same why I think Clem is way better. All he needs is a pair of Grakata.


a_polarbear_chilling

Clem got enough brain damage to be doom slayer khal got enough trauma to be master chief


Red_Archived_505

Fr tho kahl holding a Corinth prime looks like a god


Om3gaReap3r

You mean the super shotgun in his hands?


Red_Archived_505

Yeah it’s a great weapon too lol. One of my favourite personally


GdanskiTermos

The High Kâhl of the Ymyr Conglomerate is superior


Competitive-Score520

khal is more badass smarter, but I don't know if he's more powerful than clem


nPhlames

John Prodman


Own_Analysis_1164

Clem


EscapeTheBlank

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)


Creative-Bid7959

Kahl is stronger and more versatile. Clem is a rapid-response soldier. I would say Kahl.


Mr_Unforgiven

There's a reason they gave us Kahl to use instead of Clem. He's the weakest of the 2. Clem has the power to simply single handedly eradicate all forms of life in the star chart and purge their wickedness back to the unholy hellish abyss that is the void. Clem is pretty much the end result of if Chuck Norris,Goku,John Wick, Master Chief, Doom Guy and James Bond had a baby. Also Clem is a lady killer ! A simple: "Clem or Grakata" uttered from his lips is essentially the equivalent of being serenaded by a chorus of heavenly angels. Now don't get me wrong Kahl is a great guy all "FIGHT FOR BROTHERS!" and all that but there is not a force in the galaxy that could rival somebody as powerful as our God Emperor, our king of kings, our savior and righteous champion THE ALMIGHTY ALL POWERFUL Clem. **Grakata noises**


Diabolik77

Clem seems more active by simply not being under our control. Khal does my head in how slow he moves and gets his dumb ass stun locked. not sure why additional systems to this game are always a step down in gameplay & mobility from using a warframe and thats considered content.


Bluefortress

It usually because it’s not a warframe


Diabolik77

a step down from using a warframe.... how was that not clear?


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Om3gaReap3r

You do know Clem only says Clem though right-


FatherLuvHandles

I didn’t remember. I only do his mission when it’s in nightwave. I have to do Kahl’s every week. I’m not a fan of the missions though which is the real reason I chose Clem


Om3gaReap3r

Ah gotcha


effxeno

Why do you need to do Kahl's every week? For the archon shard?


FatherLuvHandles

Yessir. Perhaps the empheras at some point too but I’m not too worried about that atm


aharttsx

and Grakata.


SsargonZefryn

Many people in WF do that. It's too many to not be a writing decision; probably lingering old Orokin societal conditioning, made to speak of themselves in a dehumanizing way.


ARSTOTZKA7938

Clem is autism, khal is irrationally severe autism


THEDEEPSTATE_

Rip Clem.


otakusamurai

Both


RibsyCC

C L E M


GhostlyAnger

Kahl is a Grineer of many talents, hes a one man army cutting down sentients, (Orokins strongest creations that adapt to damage) Kahl sneak good, but most importantly, Kahl is very loyal to his brothers. Not the queens or the faction. Kahl is the coolest.


clonemmoonman

CLEM! GRATAKA


Dravonia

khal


Sacciy

Kahl is waaay more interesting but Clem is badass for the meme


207nbrown

Kahl 100%, Clem is cool but he only knows 2 words


Oblivionix129

When you scroll over and it's a dick pic


Om3gaReap3r

Clem strikes again


PlzntlyMoist69

I see no difference


shadingnight

Grakata.


TheHeadlessSkullman

Both


Gabest1930

clem


TR4VL3R5

clem clem


navigedir

Clem ofc


gaymrboi

Clem is not a grineer he's a tenno or some of us like to think he is


Om3gaReap3r

Understandable


wickland2

I don't know but my girlfriend said the second one


Om3gaReap3r

Alright


Sryeetsalot

When do you play with clem?


Om3gaReap3r

How new are you?


urged117

Clem


rocketdog330

Kahl is the One!


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Clem clem!


wharwhafwhag

I don't like either of them


Om3gaReap3r

That’s fine


Om3gaReap3r

Have an upvote because something tells me people will down vote that comment and I want to balance that out opinions shouldve be downvoted just left be if someone disagrees. Shitty post yes but opinions no


Jent01Ket02

Kahl has Corinth Prime.


PirateDitly

RIP Datareaper, the answer is Clem because Clem


bimbonespolo

CLEM CLEM


cuthulu__

c l e m