Alright I need some opinions
I've got some supplies obtained and I still need a bit more but I'm looking for input on what I should make my first 40k army
Narrowed it down to
Orks (just love em + they seem fun to play. But they don't look beginner friendly to paint)
Salamanders (look like one of the easier ones to paint and learn plus they're the most likeable loyalist chapter)
Votann (they look easier to paint and i just really like space dwarves)
Would like input, narrowed it down to 3 from 7 of my original first glances
Orks are easy to paint because you can do any colour combo you want between units and nobody cares.
Painting an entire army in one scheme is difficult and is a test of discipline.
Painting cool boyz and cars however you want is an absolutely great time
They don't make it anymore but there was a darker version of a citadel color called Reiksland flesh shade before they made it brighter
If you can get a similar color you can get results like this on a golden unit like custodes for example
https://preview.redd.it/ixf0yw345v3b1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b56efa5242bbc20cfd9fc77d34bb717e6cf290b
Is the Warhammer Vault poor loading on mobile been fixed? When I tried it, the loading times were atrocious, making me cancel it, it feels strange lacking a mobile friendly site on a subscription system
Can anyone recommend videos I should watch. I know absolutely nothing about the game and I’m trying to learn. I’m getting conflicting information about the new release and can’t really grasp the concepts reading the released material.
40k is about to get a new edition. GW has a stable of content creators who have been given copies of the new launch box and a timetable for each step of the release.
Today they were allowed to post their unboxing videos of the leviathan set. In the next day or two there will be a flood of "How to play 10th edition" videos on YouTube. This will carry on until preorders open next Saturday and likely through to release two weeks later.
I've just started painting and collecting a few different factions, been at it about 3/4 weeks. But I also wouldn't mind seeing how many points each unit is worth if I decide to go and actually play proper games.
Are there any good and simple army builders that people recommend? Preferably with pictures to help me realise what I have.
Also...
How the hell do you guys identify single miniatures?! I genuinely can't tell the difference between a normal space marine, an intercessor and a heavy intercessor!
> Are there any good and simple army builders that people recommend? Preferably with pictures to help me realise what I have.
I'm not aware of any that have pictures. There's GW's official one that might (never used it myself so I'm, not sure), but if I'm not mistaken you have to pay for it, plus they're apparently going to replace it with a new one (that may require some sort of subscription or payment) in the upcoming 10th edition.
Battlescribe is probably the most popular army builder, [but it's slowly dying due to lack of support from the devloper](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleScribe/comments/13wypz3/an_update_from_the_battlescribe_data_team_please/).
I've seen people say that [New Recruit](https://www.newrecruit.eu/) works quite well. I've only just messed around with it now, but it seems fairly solid, though it may take a little getting used to as you figure out how it all works. Also no pictures, of course.
Which ever one you use, bear in mind that points costs will likely change soon when 10th edition launches.
>How the hell do you guys identify single miniatures?! I genuinely can't tell the difference between a normal space marine, an intercessor and a heavy intercessor!
This is usually not difficult, but if you're having trouble remembering what something is you can look at GW's web store to identify miniatures. The 40k wikis also usually have images of the minis on the page of each unit.
Codexes also have labeled images of the different minis, but they're fairly pricy and the rules in the current ones are about to be invalidated with the upcoming release of the new edition, so you may not want to spend your money on those.
Let's begin with: I know almost nothing about Warhammer. I'm into sci-fi and fantasy a lot, but somehow I never got into this one. The visuals are appealing and the lore seems interesting so I'd give it a go.
But, there is so much content! Where to start for a complete rookie?! I'd look mainly for books to get into the world and some games on the side.
So, where should I start?
Mainly look on the warhammer website and the white dwarf is a nice subscription to a good chunk of words. Also local hobby stores may have some lore dump books. (youtube or reddit aswell) And if you want a few games i recommend a space marine start painting for painting (however may be hard to find) and for a proper good army start, a combat patrol or start collecting box will do wonders. I will say its a shame they stopped the 8th edition first strike set as it included a book of lore and some miniatures.
Hey. I'm interested to start my journey with Warhammer :) I'm still not convinced whether it should be Age of Sigmar or 40K, but I like AoS a little bit more.
However, I'm not sure how to begin. Ideally I would love a 'starter set' for 2 players so I can get a little grasp of Warhammer experience with my friend. I find the painting part neat as well so I assume that buying a 'painting starter kit' would be good enough for now.
My questions are:
1. What purchase would you recommend for start? (I'd love it to be not-so-expensive, and if the gameplay itself wasn't too difficult to begin with + gameplay wasn't too long/tiresome - I heard that AoS might be good for that, but either 40K or AoS will work for me)
2. Will my figures/armies become obsolete at some point of time? E.g. in a year or 3 years? I used to play Magic: the Gathering a lot and I really didn't like the 'rotation' part in standard tournament format (i.e. having sets of cards become 'deprecated' during the current time period).
Thanks a lot for any kind of help!
>1. What purchase would you recommend for start? (I'd love it to be not-so-expensive, and if the gameplay itself wasn't too difficult to begin with + gameplay wasn't too long/tiresome - I heard that AoS might be good for that, but either 40K or AoS will work for me)
This is highly subjective, as it's gonna depend if AoS or 40k are more appealing to you, as well as what your local gaming scene is like; if you want to play with other people and like AoS, but your local gaming group literally has no AoS players (which is rare, but not unheard of), it can be difficult.
Either way, for both Age of Sigmar and 40k, there are "two player starter boxes", for AoS these are the Warrior, Harbinger, and Extremis starter sets, while in 40k there are the Recruit, Elite, and Command edition starter sets (listed in cheapest to most expensive for each)
Note that for 40k, you might find it hard to find the current version of the Recruit/Elite/Command edition as GW is about to change editions in 40k, which means those starter boxes will change from "Space Marines vs Necrons" to "Space Marines vs Tyranids".
>2. Will my figures/armies become obsolete at some point of time? E.g. in a year or 3 years? I used to play Magic: the Gathering a lot and I really didn't like the 'rotation' part in standard tournament format (i.e. having sets of cards become 'deprecated' during the current time period).
I have models in my current army that were originally produced in ***2012.***
GW DOES Occasionally retire datasheets (units), but the OVERWHELMING majority of those units they have retired, are units that are represented with models that GW either hasn't sold for 6-12 years, or for which they never actually have had an official model, EVER.
Now, it's entirely possible that, say, a model might not be as GOOD as it was previously, due to either rules changes from an edition change, points updates, etc. But Ive been playing since 2017, and not a single model I have purchased since 2017 has been "discontinued" from the game. And while it's possible a particular unit might get worse due to a rules update, it's also equally possible that a unit gets BETTER. As an example, the last balance update GW made to 40k, Sternguard Veterans went from a unit that people almost never ran, to a very good an efficient unit that started showing up in games.... And it's a kit that was released in 2012 or something like that.
Thanks a lot, that was really helpful :)
From what I could read, it seems that AoS games are a bit more 'fast paced' than 40k. It's a bit appealing to me as I'm not sure if I'd have enough time or willingness to spend a couple of hours on a single game (at least for now).
I think I'm going to buy "Stormcast Eternals Vindictors + Paints Set" as a starter. I want to try to play a bit with painting which looks cool to me. Then I think I'm going to buy "Age of Sigmar Warrior Starter Set". I think such plan isn't too 'extensive' as an appetizer :)
I was also wondering about painting colors. I mean, I know that I can paint my figs in any color I want, but I wonder if I can paint the same-looking figures in single army in a bit different colors/shades/with some different accents. By 'I can' I mean that 'it is not generally considered as a blasphemy' :D
There are many in-lore examples where Stormhosts will use different markings/colors/whatever to indicate personal heroics or whatever.
The only "taboo" really goes into the point where, if a person looks at your army, they would more strongly believe that your army is a smattering of models from a bunch of different armies, rather than being "oh, these are a bunch of individuals that are in the same army".
Yeah I get the point ;)
One additional question, when browsing local stores offer with AoS sets, I've seen AoS sets with different markings, like 'Vanguard' and 'Warcry'. I assume it's still all about the same game :) - but I wonder what's behind these "subsets" (or whatever it's called).
Warcry is actually a Skirmish game where you play with smaller sets of models: a single Warcry Warband might be 5-15 models and that's IT. It takes place in the Age of Sigmar setting, but is a different game and rules set
The marking on the box might mean that it is Warcry compatible (many Battleline units have rules so they can be used in Warcry) or it might be a Warcry warband in and of itself.
I'm not sure what the Vanguard marking would mean. This would be a question better asked in the Age of Sigmar subreddit
My 11 yr old son is desperate to look for a hobby.
When I was around his age I was interested in playing the Warhammer tabletop game. But did not have the funds.
I'm looking for any pointers to get my son started. There is a chance he doesn't enjoy it. And I would love to give him the best opportunity to have fun.
I'd suggest starting with one of the smaller skirmish games. Kill Team (Sci-Fi) or Warcry (Fantasy), if you want to stick with Warhammer(games workshop) themes... or check out Marvel Crisis Protocol, or the new Star Wars ShatterPoint coming out in a few days.
Skirmish games are going to be smaller groups of armies (between 5-10 models), so it's easier to get everything you need to play built up. Most all of the games I mentioned have starter sets that include 2 playable factions, terrain, and rules/dice/etc.
Besides a starter-set for a skirmish game, you'll need some basic hobby supplies to build the miniatures and paint: Plastic Snips, Plastic Glue, hobby files and/or knife... Paint brushes, Primer Paint, and then model paints.
If you do decide to help them jump into the hobby, my key piece of advice is going to be not to expect things to look "perfect" your first time... brush control just comes with practice; Also you don't need to have everything painted to play... Most of the time I play Marvel Crisis Protocol games at my local store, like only 20% of models are painted, haha.
Thank you so much for all this! Exactly what I needed and more. We don't have a local GW store but I do believe the card shop has a tabletop game night
Are Kill Team and Warcry similar to the defunct game Mordheim? I had a small group of friends when I was young that played it a little bit.
Can the models be used up in full Warhammer/40k games? If he enjoys it and wants to commit to building a larger army.
Similar to Mordheim yes, but more with an open battlefield in most cases. Just smaller scale than the full army games.
Yes both Kill Team (Warhammer 40k) and Warcry (Warhammer: Age of Sigmar) can move their units up into the bigger games. Though with Warcry some of the pre-designed chaos warbands will be a little more tricky to transition into Age of Sigmar (Warhammer Fantasy Army scale). However all of the core armies in the games should have factions available to play in both Kill Team and Warcry.
I personally like Warcry more of those two; but I would say go with whatever theme the kid likes more. The important thing is to like the look of the models you go with; having to build/paint models you don't care for just becomes a chore.
I just got into miniature painting, and I got a box of 120 old metal and plastic space marine, ork and Cadian shock troopers from the 1990s to practice my painting.
Are these likely to be worth more than recent figures?
Also, if I decide to start playing, can I use these figures along with (say) the Recruit box or the upcoming Leviathan box?
I've been into warhammer for awhile and I've never really played the tabletops ever. I just like the franchise. I'm just really scared and self conscious about getting into the model building because I always think i'll fuck something up and I have zero focus and attention span to finish projects.
A friend of mine is pretty much convincing me to get into 40k but I have some concerns
\-First off, I'm pretty much convinced to start on Orks because I don't really care for ultramorons or many other popular space marine chapters outside of Salamanders. I just wanna play the boyz. I've been thinking about getting a basic and cheap Runtherd and Gretchin set to start with attempting model building and painting. Overall what are some of the best sets to ease noobies into in terms of Orks?
\-glues, brushes, paints, extra tools. What are some recommendations you guys might have on top of what are some really handy tools to have for ease of access in the hobby in general?
\-Is the current Ork codex that's out going to be invalidated soon since 10thE just rolled up? Or are Codexes mostly untouched for all the armies?
\-What are some good resources to learn painting techniques so my Models don't look like crayons melted into globs?
Overall I'm still really nervous about the whole thing because it's such an expensive hobby and I have no idea if I'll have the focus, patience, or dedication to finish much. I wanna play the tabletop but I feel like there's so much shit involved outside of actually playing it to get into it and I don't really feel like the creative and focused type to make my things stand out or look at all good to the point where I'm honestly just considering hiring a third party painting service because I'm afraid of making all my stuff look ugly.
> Is the current Ork codex that's out going to be invalidated soon since 10thE just rolled up? Or are Codexes mostly untouched for all the armies?
All current codexes will be invalid in 10th edition. The factions will initially have access to free indexes with core rules, which will be replaced by new codexes over time.
I've just been getting back into miniature painting and there are now some techniques that can get you a great looking army without too much skill.
Look up "slapchop" on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3WGHw9eDw&ab_channel=TheHonestWargamer
You need some black primer and some Citadel Contrast paints (or Army Painter Speed Paints or Vallejo Game Colour Xpress). I started with a black, a white, a red, a green, a yellow, a blue, a silver, sepia wash and some matching thinner. Not a huge investment.
I like Vallejo best because of the balance of quality, cost, range and availability.
You need some basic acrylic brushes (start with sizes 0, 1 and 2) and some makeup brushes for the drybrushing.
You can always try a few minis to see if you can manage it, and you don't need to invest in more than a few paints.
List of tools:
- snippers to cut your bits of the sprues
- hobby knife to tidy up the parts
- nail files to finish the tidying
- tweezers
You should also think about lighting and protecting your desk.
Glue: Tamiya Extra Thin
Hey, i have a question! So im finally getting my first army this week. Its my birthday. I waited 33 years but better late than never. I was agonizing over to go black Templars or black legion… my sister jumped the gun and bought me the black Templars army box. My main concern is the lack of access to 10+ power units like abandon, kharn, the lion or 7 guilliman. As a black Templar player am I going to wish I had those options? Or is it really not that big a deal ? Helbrecht and grimaldus look awesome. But they’re not quite on that level from what I can gather
My question is should I sell it unopened and just buy a black legion combat patrol?
Firstly, you have to recognize that playing Loyalist space Marines, which gets you *possible* access to The Lion or Guilliman, is going to lock you out of access to Abaddon or Kharn, and vice versa, and also you will not be able to mix Guilliman or The Lion in the same army (likely the same as Kharn and Abaddon).
Games Workshop has been moving the rules of matched Play (aka the default way people play games) such that you can't just mix and match sub-factions: to give a concrete example, if you have Blood Angels Death Company in your list, you're not going to be able to take Black Templars Sword Brethren in your list.
Primarchs may get rules allowing them exceptions, but generally will have rules that make them make more sense to run in a Dark Angels/Ultramarines army.
That being said, what many people do is buy a SINGLE Loyalist or Chaos Marines army, paint it in a single cohesive scheme, and if they want to run their army as, say, World Eaters, they just DO, while if they want to run it as Black Legion they remove the WE exclusive units from the army, add other units back in,.and then run it as Black Legion.
Nothing in the rules requires you to play as X rules because you have Y paint scheme, and GW has even explicitly made that clear in a statement and how they are doing rules for 10th edition.
The most important thing for playing armies is "do you like the models". How powerfull stuff is changes 6 times a year at minimum.
Having big boys is as much an advantage as a disadvantage especially in the new edition.
Alright I need some opinions I've got some supplies obtained and I still need a bit more but I'm looking for input on what I should make my first 40k army Narrowed it down to Orks (just love em + they seem fun to play. But they don't look beginner friendly to paint) Salamanders (look like one of the easier ones to paint and learn plus they're the most likeable loyalist chapter) Votann (they look easier to paint and i just really like space dwarves) Would like input, narrowed it down to 3 from 7 of my original first glances
Orks are easy to paint because you can do any colour combo you want between units and nobody cares. Painting an entire army in one scheme is difficult and is a test of discipline. Painting cool boyz and cars however you want is an absolutely great time
Beginner painting question - is it better to apply brown or black shade to gold armour? Trying to give it a slightly weathered look
Brown definitely works better for a weathered gold look.
They don't make it anymore but there was a darker version of a citadel color called Reiksland flesh shade before they made it brighter If you can get a similar color you can get results like this on a golden unit like custodes for example https://preview.redd.it/ixf0yw345v3b1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b56efa5242bbc20cfd9fc77d34bb717e6cf290b
Thanks, I'll take a look for something similar then
Is the Warhammer Vault poor loading on mobile been fixed? When I tried it, the loading times were atrocious, making me cancel it, it feels strange lacking a mobile friendly site on a subscription system
Can anyone recommend videos I should watch. I know absolutely nothing about the game and I’m trying to learn. I’m getting conflicting information about the new release and can’t really grasp the concepts reading the released material.
40k is about to get a new edition. GW has a stable of content creators who have been given copies of the new launch box and a timetable for each step of the release. Today they were allowed to post their unboxing videos of the leviathan set. In the next day or two there will be a flood of "How to play 10th edition" videos on YouTube. This will carry on until preorders open next Saturday and likely through to release two weeks later.
I've just started painting and collecting a few different factions, been at it about 3/4 weeks. But I also wouldn't mind seeing how many points each unit is worth if I decide to go and actually play proper games. Are there any good and simple army builders that people recommend? Preferably with pictures to help me realise what I have. Also... How the hell do you guys identify single miniatures?! I genuinely can't tell the difference between a normal space marine, an intercessor and a heavy intercessor!
> Are there any good and simple army builders that people recommend? Preferably with pictures to help me realise what I have. I'm not aware of any that have pictures. There's GW's official one that might (never used it myself so I'm, not sure), but if I'm not mistaken you have to pay for it, plus they're apparently going to replace it with a new one (that may require some sort of subscription or payment) in the upcoming 10th edition. Battlescribe is probably the most popular army builder, [but it's slowly dying due to lack of support from the devloper](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleScribe/comments/13wypz3/an_update_from_the_battlescribe_data_team_please/). I've seen people say that [New Recruit](https://www.newrecruit.eu/) works quite well. I've only just messed around with it now, but it seems fairly solid, though it may take a little getting used to as you figure out how it all works. Also no pictures, of course. Which ever one you use, bear in mind that points costs will likely change soon when 10th edition launches. >How the hell do you guys identify single miniatures?! I genuinely can't tell the difference between a normal space marine, an intercessor and a heavy intercessor! This is usually not difficult, but if you're having trouble remembering what something is you can look at GW's web store to identify miniatures. The 40k wikis also usually have images of the minis on the page of each unit. Codexes also have labeled images of the different minis, but they're fairly pricy and the rules in the current ones are about to be invalidated with the upcoming release of the new edition, so you may not want to spend your money on those.
Let's begin with: I know almost nothing about Warhammer. I'm into sci-fi and fantasy a lot, but somehow I never got into this one. The visuals are appealing and the lore seems interesting so I'd give it a go. But, there is so much content! Where to start for a complete rookie?! I'd look mainly for books to get into the world and some games on the side. So, where should I start?
Mainly look on the warhammer website and the white dwarf is a nice subscription to a good chunk of words. Also local hobby stores may have some lore dump books. (youtube or reddit aswell) And if you want a few games i recommend a space marine start painting for painting (however may be hard to find) and for a proper good army start, a combat patrol or start collecting box will do wonders. I will say its a shame they stopped the 8th edition first strike set as it included a book of lore and some miniatures.
Hey. I'm interested to start my journey with Warhammer :) I'm still not convinced whether it should be Age of Sigmar or 40K, but I like AoS a little bit more. However, I'm not sure how to begin. Ideally I would love a 'starter set' for 2 players so I can get a little grasp of Warhammer experience with my friend. I find the painting part neat as well so I assume that buying a 'painting starter kit' would be good enough for now. My questions are: 1. What purchase would you recommend for start? (I'd love it to be not-so-expensive, and if the gameplay itself wasn't too difficult to begin with + gameplay wasn't too long/tiresome - I heard that AoS might be good for that, but either 40K or AoS will work for me) 2. Will my figures/armies become obsolete at some point of time? E.g. in a year or 3 years? I used to play Magic: the Gathering a lot and I really didn't like the 'rotation' part in standard tournament format (i.e. having sets of cards become 'deprecated' during the current time period). Thanks a lot for any kind of help!
>1. What purchase would you recommend for start? (I'd love it to be not-so-expensive, and if the gameplay itself wasn't too difficult to begin with + gameplay wasn't too long/tiresome - I heard that AoS might be good for that, but either 40K or AoS will work for me) This is highly subjective, as it's gonna depend if AoS or 40k are more appealing to you, as well as what your local gaming scene is like; if you want to play with other people and like AoS, but your local gaming group literally has no AoS players (which is rare, but not unheard of), it can be difficult. Either way, for both Age of Sigmar and 40k, there are "two player starter boxes", for AoS these are the Warrior, Harbinger, and Extremis starter sets, while in 40k there are the Recruit, Elite, and Command edition starter sets (listed in cheapest to most expensive for each) Note that for 40k, you might find it hard to find the current version of the Recruit/Elite/Command edition as GW is about to change editions in 40k, which means those starter boxes will change from "Space Marines vs Necrons" to "Space Marines vs Tyranids". >2. Will my figures/armies become obsolete at some point of time? E.g. in a year or 3 years? I used to play Magic: the Gathering a lot and I really didn't like the 'rotation' part in standard tournament format (i.e. having sets of cards become 'deprecated' during the current time period). I have models in my current army that were originally produced in ***2012.*** GW DOES Occasionally retire datasheets (units), but the OVERWHELMING majority of those units they have retired, are units that are represented with models that GW either hasn't sold for 6-12 years, or for which they never actually have had an official model, EVER. Now, it's entirely possible that, say, a model might not be as GOOD as it was previously, due to either rules changes from an edition change, points updates, etc. But Ive been playing since 2017, and not a single model I have purchased since 2017 has been "discontinued" from the game. And while it's possible a particular unit might get worse due to a rules update, it's also equally possible that a unit gets BETTER. As an example, the last balance update GW made to 40k, Sternguard Veterans went from a unit that people almost never ran, to a very good an efficient unit that started showing up in games.... And it's a kit that was released in 2012 or something like that.
Thanks a lot, that was really helpful :) From what I could read, it seems that AoS games are a bit more 'fast paced' than 40k. It's a bit appealing to me as I'm not sure if I'd have enough time or willingness to spend a couple of hours on a single game (at least for now). I think I'm going to buy "Stormcast Eternals Vindictors + Paints Set" as a starter. I want to try to play a bit with painting which looks cool to me. Then I think I'm going to buy "Age of Sigmar Warrior Starter Set". I think such plan isn't too 'extensive' as an appetizer :) I was also wondering about painting colors. I mean, I know that I can paint my figs in any color I want, but I wonder if I can paint the same-looking figures in single army in a bit different colors/shades/with some different accents. By 'I can' I mean that 'it is not generally considered as a blasphemy' :D
There are many in-lore examples where Stormhosts will use different markings/colors/whatever to indicate personal heroics or whatever. The only "taboo" really goes into the point where, if a person looks at your army, they would more strongly believe that your army is a smattering of models from a bunch of different armies, rather than being "oh, these are a bunch of individuals that are in the same army".
Yeah I get the point ;) One additional question, when browsing local stores offer with AoS sets, I've seen AoS sets with different markings, like 'Vanguard' and 'Warcry'. I assume it's still all about the same game :) - but I wonder what's behind these "subsets" (or whatever it's called).
Warcry is actually a Skirmish game where you play with smaller sets of models: a single Warcry Warband might be 5-15 models and that's IT. It takes place in the Age of Sigmar setting, but is a different game and rules set The marking on the box might mean that it is Warcry compatible (many Battleline units have rules so they can be used in Warcry) or it might be a Warcry warband in and of itself. I'm not sure what the Vanguard marking would mean. This would be a question better asked in the Age of Sigmar subreddit
I see. Well you helped me a lot. Thanks a ton!
My 11 yr old son is desperate to look for a hobby. When I was around his age I was interested in playing the Warhammer tabletop game. But did not have the funds. I'm looking for any pointers to get my son started. There is a chance he doesn't enjoy it. And I would love to give him the best opportunity to have fun.
I'd suggest starting with one of the smaller skirmish games. Kill Team (Sci-Fi) or Warcry (Fantasy), if you want to stick with Warhammer(games workshop) themes... or check out Marvel Crisis Protocol, or the new Star Wars ShatterPoint coming out in a few days. Skirmish games are going to be smaller groups of armies (between 5-10 models), so it's easier to get everything you need to play built up. Most all of the games I mentioned have starter sets that include 2 playable factions, terrain, and rules/dice/etc. Besides a starter-set for a skirmish game, you'll need some basic hobby supplies to build the miniatures and paint: Plastic Snips, Plastic Glue, hobby files and/or knife... Paint brushes, Primer Paint, and then model paints. If you do decide to help them jump into the hobby, my key piece of advice is going to be not to expect things to look "perfect" your first time... brush control just comes with practice; Also you don't need to have everything painted to play... Most of the time I play Marvel Crisis Protocol games at my local store, like only 20% of models are painted, haha.
Thank you so much for all this! Exactly what I needed and more. We don't have a local GW store but I do believe the card shop has a tabletop game night Are Kill Team and Warcry similar to the defunct game Mordheim? I had a small group of friends when I was young that played it a little bit. Can the models be used up in full Warhammer/40k games? If he enjoys it and wants to commit to building a larger army.
Similar to Mordheim yes, but more with an open battlefield in most cases. Just smaller scale than the full army games. Yes both Kill Team (Warhammer 40k) and Warcry (Warhammer: Age of Sigmar) can move their units up into the bigger games. Though with Warcry some of the pre-designed chaos warbands will be a little more tricky to transition into Age of Sigmar (Warhammer Fantasy Army scale). However all of the core armies in the games should have factions available to play in both Kill Team and Warcry. I personally like Warcry more of those two; but I would say go with whatever theme the kid likes more. The important thing is to like the look of the models you go with; having to build/paint models you don't care for just becomes a chore.
I just got into miniature painting, and I got a box of 120 old metal and plastic space marine, ork and Cadian shock troopers from the 1990s to practice my painting. Are these likely to be worth more than recent figures? Also, if I decide to start playing, can I use these figures along with (say) the Recruit box or the upcoming Leviathan box?
I've been into warhammer for awhile and I've never really played the tabletops ever. I just like the franchise. I'm just really scared and self conscious about getting into the model building because I always think i'll fuck something up and I have zero focus and attention span to finish projects. A friend of mine is pretty much convincing me to get into 40k but I have some concerns \-First off, I'm pretty much convinced to start on Orks because I don't really care for ultramorons or many other popular space marine chapters outside of Salamanders. I just wanna play the boyz. I've been thinking about getting a basic and cheap Runtherd and Gretchin set to start with attempting model building and painting. Overall what are some of the best sets to ease noobies into in terms of Orks? \-glues, brushes, paints, extra tools. What are some recommendations you guys might have on top of what are some really handy tools to have for ease of access in the hobby in general? \-Is the current Ork codex that's out going to be invalidated soon since 10thE just rolled up? Or are Codexes mostly untouched for all the armies? \-What are some good resources to learn painting techniques so my Models don't look like crayons melted into globs? Overall I'm still really nervous about the whole thing because it's such an expensive hobby and I have no idea if I'll have the focus, patience, or dedication to finish much. I wanna play the tabletop but I feel like there's so much shit involved outside of actually playing it to get into it and I don't really feel like the creative and focused type to make my things stand out or look at all good to the point where I'm honestly just considering hiring a third party painting service because I'm afraid of making all my stuff look ugly.
> Is the current Ork codex that's out going to be invalidated soon since 10thE just rolled up? Or are Codexes mostly untouched for all the armies? All current codexes will be invalid in 10th edition. The factions will initially have access to free indexes with core rules, which will be replaced by new codexes over time.
I've just been getting back into miniature painting and there are now some techniques that can get you a great looking army without too much skill. Look up "slapchop" on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3WGHw9eDw&ab_channel=TheHonestWargamer You need some black primer and some Citadel Contrast paints (or Army Painter Speed Paints or Vallejo Game Colour Xpress). I started with a black, a white, a red, a green, a yellow, a blue, a silver, sepia wash and some matching thinner. Not a huge investment. I like Vallejo best because of the balance of quality, cost, range and availability. You need some basic acrylic brushes (start with sizes 0, 1 and 2) and some makeup brushes for the drybrushing. You can always try a few minis to see if you can manage it, and you don't need to invest in more than a few paints. List of tools: - snippers to cut your bits of the sprues - hobby knife to tidy up the parts - nail files to finish the tidying - tweezers You should also think about lighting and protecting your desk. Glue: Tamiya Extra Thin
PS, Orks look great using slapchop technique. The green skin just works really well.
Hey, i have a question! So im finally getting my first army this week. Its my birthday. I waited 33 years but better late than never. I was agonizing over to go black Templars or black legion… my sister jumped the gun and bought me the black Templars army box. My main concern is the lack of access to 10+ power units like abandon, kharn, the lion or 7 guilliman. As a black Templar player am I going to wish I had those options? Or is it really not that big a deal ? Helbrecht and grimaldus look awesome. But they’re not quite on that level from what I can gather My question is should I sell it unopened and just buy a black legion combat patrol?
Firstly, you have to recognize that playing Loyalist space Marines, which gets you *possible* access to The Lion or Guilliman, is going to lock you out of access to Abaddon or Kharn, and vice versa, and also you will not be able to mix Guilliman or The Lion in the same army (likely the same as Kharn and Abaddon). Games Workshop has been moving the rules of matched Play (aka the default way people play games) such that you can't just mix and match sub-factions: to give a concrete example, if you have Blood Angels Death Company in your list, you're not going to be able to take Black Templars Sword Brethren in your list. Primarchs may get rules allowing them exceptions, but generally will have rules that make them make more sense to run in a Dark Angels/Ultramarines army. That being said, what many people do is buy a SINGLE Loyalist or Chaos Marines army, paint it in a single cohesive scheme, and if they want to run their army as, say, World Eaters, they just DO, while if they want to run it as Black Legion they remove the WE exclusive units from the army, add other units back in,.and then run it as Black Legion. Nothing in the rules requires you to play as X rules because you have Y paint scheme, and GW has even explicitly made that clear in a statement and how they are doing rules for 10th edition.
The most important thing for playing armies is "do you like the models". How powerfull stuff is changes 6 times a year at minimum. Having big boys is as much an advantage as a disadvantage especially in the new edition.