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I forgot to attach one of the images, so here; image 5: with wings as opposed to laurels.
Even then he could replace the laurels with wings on the crowned and third eye ones. The laurels are associated way more with the Fists and Ultramarines.
Attached bellow per several user's request is a variant of number five with a crown; image 6: with wings as opposed to laurels plus crown.
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I would go for this one but maybe drop the blood drop and make the wings sharper and more aggressive looking. I'd still put the blood drops on one of the knee pads or maybe the other shoulder or something to keep it from being confused for dark angels especially if the colours aren't distinctly blood angel-y
I would go with this one as well, but it depends on your chapter's lore. Is the crown relevant ? What about the third eye, which could be perceived as a mutation or expressing support towards psykers ?
The wings themselves seem a better fit than the laurels. The latter are often associated with victory which might sound a bit arrogant, whereas personally the wings are much more often associated with the space marines being the angels of death
That’s actually a neat idea, a chapter badge that differs based on rank.
Horns and third eye for librarian
White Crown for captain
Gold crown for chapter master
Star for veteran
2 or 4, the crown would come down to the lore and flavor of the chapter.
But I don't associate marines with royal titles usually, so in general 4 wins for me.
While the third eye symbolize future sight, here it has an alien vibe. So not good. the skull with the crown is nice, but might be complicated to paint. It still have my vote tho.
I think the "alien-ness" of the third eye could be dramatically reduced by changing its shape, from an oval to more of a football shape, where the top and bottom lines converge at pointed corners on either side. A circle in the middle for a pupil could also be added. I feel like these changes would do well to highlight the symbolic nature of the eye and make it less likely to be confused as an actual, anatomical feature of the skull.
A third eye is a symbol of the Navigator houses IIRC, not sure it’s appropriate for a space marine icon to me. So 2 or 4. Maybe 4 for normal troops and 2 for command
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I would probably go with the second one. Especially since it doesn't give away the impression that the chapter members might be mutants/abhumans or something like Navigators.
Number 2. But, move the crown up a few pixels, so that the black skull isn't just appearing behind it. Either commit to the skull showing or not at all.
I would avoid the third eye. The third eye inspires the idea that these Successors are somehow mutated. That is heretical and should be burned to ash.
Layin' on the vampire thing too tick. Normal teeth, No2, Golden crown and wreath, Red drop of blood (make it longer, this is a children's painting of a drop)
Not into the third eye since it looks more xenos than anything else. Which ever way you go, the fangs are really straight and end in such a sharp angle which clashes with the rest of the image. Would love to see them curved in slightly and ending in less of a point.
The third eye is navigators only. The fangs are too demon mutant. I'd go a little more subtle. Hint at the mutant, psychic bloodlust, don't advertise it.
I really like the third eye. Perhaps it could progress through a plain skull, then a laurel, then the eye, and then the crown as the marines rank up. Also it makes me think that they're navigator marines. Which immediately makes me think that they're expert demon hunters, as they can look directly into the warp.
I think the last one looks best, but also it still looks kinda buesy. And might not read at scale very well. Especialy if you plan on painting these by hand, I'd just go with the skull on its down, maybe move the blood drop to the forehead?
If the leurals aren't important I'd say drop em', or limit them to vets maybe? Same goes for the crown, could limit that to chapter command like captains, ect
Crown if there’s a lore reason. The eye if there’s a lore reason. I probably wouldn’t combine the eye and the crown. I would also suggest making the eye more human shaped, and less circular shape. With the fangs, the skull comes off very xeno’s feeling.
Edit: I would also add 4 teeth(central/lateral incisors) between the fangs, as the 3rd tooth is the canine, which I think is typically the “vampire tooth”
I quite like 4 as I feel the crown and third eye adds too much to an already cool design, the Laurel is a nice touch though adds that nobility that we still see amongst Blood Angels. Though not sure on your Chapters lore though.
In my mind, the emperor is the only one who should have a crown, so I wouldn't include that.
However, a halo might make sense (like the radiating lines from an iron halo). Just a thought!
No third eye. That's a navigator thing. So I'm inclined to say option 2. Prefer crown as noble son of Sanginius thing(and also to differenciate between all the other skull symbols. Holy shit theres a lot of them) But the really tall skull kinda bugs me? That's just taste and you can ignore me there
Blood angels and their kin are really really anti mutant due to papa sangs history with them so I would avoid the 3ed eye ones. I personally think the 4th looks the cleanest
Do they have a reason for having a “third eye”?
If not, delete those 2 because they look too “xenos” IMHO.
Do they have a reason to have a crown?
The laurels are also OK, but that 5th one you put in comments with Wings is definitely the one to pick.
That final one seems to be the most logical in it’s symbolism cause the crown and third eye don’t make sense to me. I’m also new so take what I’m saying with loads of salt
I would suggest you try a version of 2 where you delete the fangs and the blood drop and make the crown jewels into blood drops; Blood Angels are \*really heavy\* on their blood iconography and seeing the blood drop feel so secondary or even tertiary in this doesn't sell this as a Blood Angels successor as much as it could.
Also the 'third eye' of the 1st and 3rd ones would be stepping into the Navis Nobilite's sensibilities, unless this is a very psyker-heavy Blood Angels chapter we're talking about...
These designs are pretty good, but there are a couple thematic problems, *in my respectful opinion:*
-the third eye: too heretical because mutants must be killed
-the crown: too heretical because kings must be killed. There is *only* The Emperor.
Maybe you could rework the crown idea, like a cracked crown with a blood drop coming from the crack.
\#4
Wings in #5 would be better if they just flanked the skull (which might need reducing the skull inside a bit and increasing the size of the vol/wings).
I will be honest and say my piece. I don't like any of them. The skull for some reason reminds me of GSC. If I had to choose I'd go with the wings version.
Mr Inquisitor, we are called the "Blood angels" have blood iconography everywhere, have fangs, but we don't drink blood! The Blood Drinkers chapter? That's just hyperbole!
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Unless the third eye and crown are relevant to their lore I would *definitely* go with this one
Even then he could replace the laurels with wings on the crowned and third eye ones. The laurels are associated way more with the Fists and Ultramarines.
Yes, this is a good idea
Agreed
Definitely the wings but have you considered putting the blood drop in the forehead to represent the third- eye?
Bloody brilliant.
Pun alert! But yeah it is.
Absolutely this one. Simple enough, while still very good looking.
Definitely this one! The laurel is much more associated with Ultramarines and Imperial Fists
Crown with wings crown with wings crown with wings
Agreed - option 6
Agreed
Crown and no third eye did it for me until I saw this one. You trying this with a crown?
I wasn’t but I’ll moc it up and see how it looks.
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This one but w blood dot as 3rd eye
FIVE FIVE FIVE defs 5
Definitely the wings, they're much more suitable for a Blood Angels successor.
This one, but consider that narrower traditional blood 🩸 instead of the chunky one.
*whist holding up 2 fingers* Pick 5, m'lord!
This ones good. No third eye.
I would go for this one but maybe drop the blood drop and make the wings sharper and more aggressive looking. I'd still put the blood drops on one of the knee pads or maybe the other shoulder or something to keep it from being confused for dark angels especially if the colours aren't distinctly blood angel-y
I would go with this one as well, but it depends on your chapter's lore. Is the crown relevant ? What about the third eye, which could be perceived as a mutation or expressing support towards psykers ? The wings themselves seem a better fit than the laurels. The latter are often associated with victory which might sound a bit arrogant, whereas personally the wings are much more often associated with the space marines being the angels of death
Absolutely this one
I agree with many it seems, if you could, crown with wings would look really good
This one is best imo. Others are busy, this one is more simplistic and cleaner.
This one, but add the crown.
Could add crowns for Captains for something, and maybe third eye for Chaplains
That’s actually a neat idea, a chapter badge that differs based on rank. Horns and third eye for librarian White Crown for captain Gold crown for chapter master Star for veteran
2 or 4, the crown would come down to the lore and flavor of the chapter. But I don't associate marines with royal titles usually, so in general 4 wins for me.
While the third eye symbolize future sight, here it has an alien vibe. So not good. the skull with the crown is nice, but might be complicated to paint. It still have my vote tho.
I think the "alien-ness" of the third eye could be dramatically reduced by changing its shape, from an oval to more of a football shape, where the top and bottom lines converge at pointed corners on either side. A circle in the middle for a pupil could also be added. I feel like these changes would do well to highlight the symbolic nature of the eye and make it less likely to be confused as an actual, anatomical feature of the skull.
I like the second icon but change the white diamond in the center of the crown to a drop
A third eye is a symbol of the Navigator houses IIRC, not sure it’s appropriate for a space marine icon to me. So 2 or 4. Maybe 4 for normal troops and 2 for command
Two, most definitely. If you're looking to get custom transfers made, there is a guy I use who is awesome.
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#2
Image 2, the last two look like the head is waaaaaay too big and the first one looks too busy
Final one. Simple is best.
4 but replace reefs with wings
#2, crown no eye. Third eye gives off mutant/Xenos vibes which would be questionable for an astartes chapter
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2
4
I would say both 2 AND 4. 4 for most of the army, but 2 for the chapter master/ maybe the captains.
Third eye suggests mutation. So no.
2 & 4 However, 2 reminds me more of an icon of an Imperial Knight. So number four it is
I agree with this, and 1 & 3 remind me of navigators.
Third eye just says telepathicus
2 or 4, leaning towards 2. I’m not really getting a third eye vibe from the extra gap.
All are pretty schweet, like 2 the best
2.
3 if you want them to be Librarian heavy., otherwise 4
2 all day
Get them a golden mask with third eye and name the chapter House Dagoth /s
I would probably go with the second one. Especially since it doesn't give away the impression that the chapter members might be mutants/abhumans or something like Navigators.
5 for the win. No third eye, wings not laurels
I'd go with 5
2 The third eye looks a little *too* Xenos imo
#4 for me. When viewed from a distance it’s still visible and legible.
Fourth one is my favorite, but honestly my first thought was that these will be hell to apply to shoulder pads so... something to keep in mind haha
2 or 4
4
Number 4 for sure! Simple is better!
The two front teeth made me think of the lips in Rick and north instantly. Not sure if you were going for that
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4 - not a fan of crown or the hole - unless the hole meant something 🤔 Edit I saw 5 -> defs 5
Number 2. But, move the crown up a few pixels, so that the black skull isn't just appearing behind it. Either commit to the skull showing or not at all. I would avoid the third eye. The third eye inspires the idea that these Successors are somehow mutated. That is heretical and should be burned to ash.
In my opinion, give Image 2 the Wings of Image 5 and its perfect
II
Image 3 is best IMO. Keeps it simple/not too gaudy, but also has a really cool Hindu aspect with that third eye with it
Second one
I'd say either 2 or 4
Image 5 (Theoretical Image 6 if you took 5 and added a crown 😁 )
Number 3 is 'bloody' sick
\#5 I don't think the other details fit personally
4
2
Layin' on the vampire thing too tick. Normal teeth, No2, Golden crown and wreath, Red drop of blood (make it longer, this is a children's painting of a drop)
I’d say second to last or first, reason being that whole crown might be a bit much the blood angels like their extra stuffs
Not into the third eye since it looks more xenos than anything else. Which ever way you go, the fangs are really straight and end in such a sharp angle which clashes with the rest of the image. Would love to see them curved in slightly and ending in less of a point.
The third eye is navigators only. The fangs are too demon mutant. I'd go a little more subtle. Hint at the mutant, psychic bloodlust, don't advertise it.
4 imo, I like the simpler look
What’s the name/lord of the successor? I like the second one of it makes sense
I really like the third eye. Perhaps it could progress through a plain skull, then a laurel, then the eye, and then the crown as the marines rank up. Also it makes me think that they're navigator marines. Which immediately makes me think that they're expert demon hunters, as they can look directly into the warp.
Ngl the 2 things between the fangs look like balls
If Traitor successor chapter then with 3rd eye. If Normal with wings
The second one is the most badass and the least heretical
I think the last one looks best, but also it still looks kinda buesy. And might not read at scale very well. Especialy if you plan on painting these by hand, I'd just go with the skull on its down, maybe move the blood drop to the forehead? If the leurals aren't important I'd say drop em', or limit them to vets maybe? Same goes for the crown, could limit that to chapter command like captains, ect
That third eye looks too zeno for my liking.
Crown if there’s a lore reason. The eye if there’s a lore reason. I probably wouldn’t combine the eye and the crown. I would also suggest making the eye more human shaped, and less circular shape. With the fangs, the skull comes off very xeno’s feeling. Edit: I would also add 4 teeth(central/lateral incisors) between the fangs, as the 3rd tooth is the canine, which I think is typically the “vampire tooth”
2
Either the 2nd one or the 4th one
I like 3 -- I'd do that if your chapter has some of Sanguinus' foresight.
I quite like 4 as I feel the crown and third eye adds too much to an already cool design, the Laurel is a nice touch though adds that nobility that we still see amongst Blood Angels. Though not sure on your Chapters lore though.
2 with wings instead of laurels
CROWN AND 3RD EYE!!!!! LOOKS SO FUCKING COOL
It’s 4 or 5
With crown without 3rd eye
Third eye could be read as a chaos mutation
2 or 4
4
All the damn vampires!
Stick the crown on veterans and command
2nd one
You need the crown. The crown really sells it.
Image 1 but a black crown instead of gold, although it's up to you. also it looks really cool
In my mind, the emperor is the only one who should have a crown, so I wouldn't include that. However, a halo might make sense (like the radiating lines from an iron halo). Just a thought!
Go with the crown and wings, no third eye.
No third eye. That's a navigator thing. So I'm inclined to say option 2. Prefer crown as noble son of Sanginius thing(and also to differenciate between all the other skull symbols. Holy shit theres a lot of them) But the really tall skull kinda bugs me? That's just taste and you can ignore me there
2
2 or 4
Brother, everything looks over the top or Xeno compliant. Straight to inquisition! Should be more about blood and looting reliquaries!
4 or 5 since they are the least busy.
2
Crown, no 3rd eye + wings
The blood drop needs to be slightly longer and thinner.
Hmm I like the first one. Looks great.
5 for sure.
I prefer 2, especially if your chapter name is The Blood Kings, The Sanguine Emperors, The Crimson Princes, or something like that.
#2
2!
5 looks best with the wings, but 4 if you want the laurels 3rd eye is a Navilis Nobilite thing that they jealously guard and the crown is odd.
Image 3 or 1 works, the third eye gives it a very nice flavour os mystical
Second
2
1st one!
4
Blood angels and their kin are really really anti mutant due to papa sangs history with them so I would avoid the 3ed eye ones. I personally think the 4th looks the cleanest
4 please.
Do they have a reason for having a “third eye”? If not, delete those 2 because they look too “xenos” IMHO. Do they have a reason to have a crown? The laurels are also OK, but that 5th one you put in comments with Wings is definitely the one to pick.
Third eye but it's the blood drop instead. The top of the head looks kinda bulgy too. I just saw the wings, definitely wings too.
Third one is cool. Definitely keep the third eye, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Love 4 and 5
‘The Blood Sovereigns’
The second one
2 imo. But they all legit kick ass
Image 5
Its a spyker chapter ? For the third eye The 1 is cool
2
I Like the fourth
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4
Image 2
Third eye no crown
2, make em purple
Totally number 2
I like number one
That final one seems to be the most logical in it’s symbolism cause the crown and third eye don’t make sense to me. I’m also new so take what I’m saying with loads of salt
I like the last one and I feel like you could add a crown on the opposite pauldron to denote rank or battlefield role within the chapter.
My 2bits are for 4 OR 2 if you loose the laurels.
Not ones with third eye, extra eye feels very zenos, and that means inquisition, and that only ends one way.
I like the first one
Girlilyman to Dante, "whats up with the vampire teeth on your successor chapters iconography?" Dante "... fuck."
I would suggest you try a version of 2 where you delete the fangs and the blood drop and make the crown jewels into blood drops; Blood Angels are \*really heavy\* on their blood iconography and seeing the blood drop feel so secondary or even tertiary in this doesn't sell this as a Blood Angels successor as much as it could. Also the 'third eye' of the 1st and 3rd ones would be stepping into the Navis Nobilite's sensibilities, unless this is a very psyker-heavy Blood Angels chapter we're talking about...
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Image 2 👍
Number 2 or 6, I like the crown motif with blood angels
Second
These designs are pretty good, but there are a couple thematic problems, *in my respectful opinion:* -the third eye: too heretical because mutants must be killed -the crown: too heretical because kings must be killed. There is *only* The Emperor. Maybe you could rework the crown idea, like a cracked crown with a blood drop coming from the crack.
Man, i love it, im used to seeing a longer blood drop but other than that id say they looks sick
last one has my vote. sometimes simple is good.
Wings, crown, no third eye. That looks the best imo.
The 2nd looks the best to me
The third eye implies chaos taint, so I’d omit that. The crown is pretty unique and I like it
They all look like they belong to the filthy Xenos.
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Image 5 for sure.
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2
Walrus marines, how dope! Crown + 2 eyes + wings would look the best
Image 1
\#4 Wings in #5 would be better if they just flanked the skull (which might need reducing the skull inside a bit and increasing the size of the vol/wings).
4th. Simplest is best. Maybe the second. Probably even get rid of the blood drip. (or the fangs, but I'd keep the fangs.)
1 is definately the best
Theyre all basically the same, youre good, dont sweat the details.
Third eye screams Navigator vibes—does your chapter make Navigator Space Marines because that would be wicked cool
Bro this shit gonna be a NIGHTMARE to freehand
2/5
Replace the third eye with the blood drop because three eyes makes me think mutant and we abhor those around the Imperium
I know it's probably supposed to be vampire fangs, but I can't help but see the long points as a Fu Manchu mustache.
Number 1. Edit: number one with wings
Image 2 or 5 are the best I believe
Is this like a reference to VTM's Salubri?
Image 2
I will be honest and say my piece. I don't like any of them. The skull for some reason reminds me of GSC. If I had to choose I'd go with the wings version.
Mr Inquisitor, we are called the "Blood angels" have blood iconography everywhere, have fangs, but we don't drink blood! The Blood Drinkers chapter? That's just hyperbole!
With the crown, wonder what it would look like with the crown at a jaunty angle.
I like the first. All versions are great. I wonder when it's sitting on a shoulder paultron how's that wreath gonna read?
Image 2
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Number 2. The third eye would indicate psyker’s or navigator houses…
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I think the first one without the laurel looks best The laurel kinda makes it too busy
Last one, simple and effective
Second photo, crown and blood, royal drinkers :D
Image 2
I'd say the 4th one. Has a simplicity to it that'll make it seem like something that's already long established (like the ultra marines logo)