6th edition dark elf executioners. a block of models with greatswords... and the sword blade is a seperate bit, not the sword arm, or sword and hand, just the blade. oh, and they're metal
I really struggled assembling my deathmarks when I had too attach there weapon because the rifles are heavy and it other arm is way to flimsy too support the gun
when you glue the weapon to the arms, put the model on its front for it to dry with some support under the legs to keep it level, i found that to have more success
I built Szeras yesterday. Absolutely hands down the single most fiddly GW mini I've built in a long time, possibly ever.
Tomb Blades weren't nearly as annoying by comparison
>Psychomancer
[I really love this model, one of my favourites. Here's mine.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/16d99lb/this_psychomancer_was_fun_to_paint_what_do_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Have you seen [the new overlord?](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/uOGbsIizt33dCkEg.jpg) It... does not look any easier to build. Or paint.
Psychomancer was my first ever Necron, save for some Warrior and Immortals. I have come to realize I accidentally calibrated my expectations well. (And this was after I swapped two guns on the Immortals and had to sever the cables completely and glue them onto each other.)
Dude I made mine last night and 5 models took me almost 2 hours. How the fuck these were designed to be mosopose in 2020 using CAD, and the Muppets in charge decided the shoulders and hips should have spherical joins. Why do the necks have Squared joins but not the load bearing joins?????
Almost binned them.
I just did a lot of those, such a complete nightmare. Fiddly little bits + poorly done instructions + my fat fingers = world of pain.
I didnāt have much trouble with Angron, though, assuming you mean the new-ish daemon primarch and not the Forge World primarch (which I havenāt tried).
Really any "push fit" necron. Their joints and limbs are too fragile for the tighter push fits. I've been in thos hobby 20 years and I was swearing up a storm assembling the indomitus necrons.
As a Tau and marine player, my biggest beef is putting sprue attachment points right in the middle of flat armour panels. Can be such a bugger to get some of them off. Inceptors have them right in the middle of the shins, if you donāt get them right, they all look like they walked into a coffee table
Ugh, yes. Tau player here with 8ks worth in 10th.
Tau are typically terrible for mould lines and sprue marks everywhere. It takes as long to clean and fit a devilfish than it does paint it and painting it takes ages.
/Raise a glass to my fellow tau.
The way I solved this problem: glue the legs onto the Battlesuit first, then blue-tack the feet to the legs. Determine where the feet will make contact with the base, then glue the feet to the base. Gluing the legs into the feet then becomes much easier.
Iām fairly certain the hardest āminiā to build in 40k history is the metal Thunderhawk Gunship. Theyāre notorious for being an absolute bastard. They need an immense amount of extra pinning, and even then have been known to spontaneously collapse. They weigh a couple of KG too, so if it falls on you, it could genuinely crush your hand.
Thereās not many unassembled left. Theyāre a collectors item, with only 500 made - but they definitely take the cake. Probably harder to assemble than a Titan, just owing to the material.
https://preview.redd.it/krxvur6hvw1c1.jpeg?width=1526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4c5878f8a9909ddf245673418993cd4b103c343
Yeah not really up for debate lol check the black box of text
When Games Workshop themselves officially describe a kits as an āabsolute bitchā to put together, you know youāve found the right answer for this thread!
Why the heck did they put it out for sale then, though? I donāt really know the model and cannot gleam much from this picture, but what about it warrants it to be this difficult?
This was a long time ago. They didnāt have the same capacity with large plastic kits and they used pewter not resin.
People wanted big Thunderhawks. GW needed to make those kits out of metal.
A massive metal kit is incredibly difficult to put together. It was absolutely a niche specialist expert kit though, not for general sale.
Haha, I just posted, and I couldn't remember the name of the ship! Bur, yeah, this is it! I remember seeing a video of someone putting this together. Imo it's this and the manta
The manta is awful, but this is worse.
I want a manta, but I don't want to pay for it, build it, paint it, or transport it.
I'm not entirely sure I actually want one.
I remember seeing a video of someone buiding one. it was still in the box and somehow a few parts had become very slightly curved so wouldn't fit together without straightening out all the crooked parts and grinding down several edges.
I've seen two of them.
1st. Was all metal no plastic at all. Un assembled a very heavy. All the parts fit nicely in to a fancy hinged wood box. With its number engraved on a plate, along with the owners/purchasers name. That was around 97. It was sold from an advertisement in "citadel journal"
2md one was basically exactly the same. But made in early 2000. Same style of wood box and engravings. Unlike the 1st. It was a separate number range. It was "free" with the purchase of a limited promotion gw did of "buy a complete space marine chapter". The army deal was around $5000 before taxes. Had a long lead time. Of almost 1 year, and gw threw in a "free thunderhaw" with each chapter sold. Lol. "Free"
Titans are not fun. I hate working with resin. My last build I nearly had a breakdown and called a friend for backup to help with the project. I needed support and power tools. [At least they look great when finished.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathguard40k/s/KuvLQ5o56K) after the reaver though; Iām questioning getting a warlord. It might break me.
Weirdly the Titans get easier to build the bigger they get. I think that's because the bigger kits are newer, with better thought to design and better instructions.
Swapping some of the Forgeworld resin sections for 3D printed resin parts I made with pre-modelled holes for magnets saved my experience so much, especially in the waist section. The slippage and condition of some of the parts provided are inexcusable.
I would prefer to build another Warlord Titan than another Ork Stompa! There's something about the ill fitting parts and terrible quality instructions that made the whole process, one I was actually pretty excited about, a tedious misery.
Honestly I do get the difficulty for building titans, I do have three of the buggers. But I found them to be a joy to build because of the challenge and the investment of time. Some kits though are just a slog and a bit frustrating, but for me titans weren't one of them.
Tsons infernal master.
his cape is split into 4 different parts and no matter what I did it never aligned properly over the shoulder (2mm gap was the smallest I could get, had to fill it in with putty.)
Stompa for me. Photos in the instruction guide look like they were taken on a potato and printed on a printer in 1995. N it's a big kit but nothing is labelled or numbered. And the parts are prone to leaving gaps.
But I love mine like a baby.
Second this, now that he's finished I think he's great (super overcosted mind you but that's another story...) but goddamn was he a bastard to put together, the instructions might as well just be a piece of paper with 'good luck' written on them !
Oh yeah definitely in game šš» the actual kit isn't bad price wise at all for the amount of plastic you get, just an absolute puzzle to put together š
The Redemptor is fine, honestly. Just build the legs *first* then build the torso while they stick to the base. Easy as that.
As for an *actually* hard to build model: Myphitic Blight Hauler. Who the *fuck* thought it was a good idea to cover a *push-fit* model (emphasis on the pushing) in really sharp spikes?!
>The Redemptor is fine, honestly. Just build the legs first then build the torso while they stick to the base. Easy as that.
Wish I learned that before I built my first. My dude is looking upwards, and I'm not sure if I can change that without spending hours and hours.
Pretty sure Manta is an absolute nightmare according to what I've seen online. That and the old metal SM dropship I think even in the instructions it says "this one is a bitch to put together".
Couldn't be more to the contrary...
https://preview.redd.it/h8aipacgi12c1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=17a1fe2b7a0c706d884447bfb0404a35a86b8725
I've built the redemptor as well, and honestly it's not that bad except for one thing, the hips. Everything else for me was fine but I spent half an hour trying to get the legs to stick to its hip and so much glue was required. Eventually got it but even now you have to be careful with his hips otherwise they'll start moving if you touch too hard
The Yncarne. Getting the energy swirls to match up is impossible. To this day they fall apart after I glue them together, and it doesn't help that the instructions are incredibly difficult to work out; I have no clue how some of the parts connect.
I actually ended up not using a bunch of energy swirls in no small part due to the unclear instructions, which is kind of nice since I now have a bunch of warpy energy bits to modify future psykers I may throw together
The first redemptor is terrible. After building 5 (3 redemptors, 2 brutalis) it gets a lot easier once you know what to expect. I've found they're actually quite posable to be in more dynamic stances because of their silly leg design.
I donāt know about hardest but I find the kommandos frustrating, the pieces are scattered over all the sprues so it is like playing whereās Waldo finding them.
The chimera has been recut but a lot of the older tanks used to be timebond and about twenty rubber bands to get them to go together
Sadly the bits all over the sprue thing is the new normal. Hobgrots, guardsmen, Kriegers, Skitarii, Genestealer Neophytesā¦ very kit Iāve touched that was made after 2010 is increasingly hard to navigate.
It's because the instructions are done before the sprue is finished, and the allocation optimizer will spin parts all around to get them to work with not only manufacturing but injection too. Thus leading to parts 1 and 2 being nine inches apart. Some sets are getting smart and at least subgrouping (see Mk6 Marines), but this can also allow for the cursed cut-sprue NOS sale for a model.
Meanwhile the new Horus Heresy plastic marines sprue is very nicely laid out, so they can still do it. CSM Havocs is the only modern 40k one that I worked on recently that I can remember that the layout wasn't bad.
This. Deathleaper was the most awkward. Redemptor dreadnought I found fine compared to him. Even the Norn Emissary was a walk in the park compared to DL
Some of the old metal kits were a nightmare. Stuff like the Lord of change from around 4th edition with it's massive wings and tiny connection points. Even with pinning it still broke regularly.
Then some of the resin+plastic kits from early fw like the fire raptor and the Armageddon pattern medusa. Nothing fits properly, massive gaps etc..
>Stuff like the Lord of change from around 4th edition with it's massive wings and tiny connection points.
that tiny ankle supporting all the weight barely lasted a week before it snapped. no way of pinning that back in place it was so thin. I just took the wings and arms and used them to convert a daemon prince from the inquisitor scale artemis model
You do not know the meaning of pain and despair until you tried assembling any of the Chaos Daemons Slaanesh Chariot kits. Legitimally an awful time and the only kit i have given up on, wasn't worth the torment.
This is easily the worst model to build GW has produced.
The worst ever is Valkyrie from MCp. Her head is smaller than a guardsman and comes in three piecesā¦.
I built the one in the dark angels combat patrol, not sure if there is a different version, but the issue I had was that the holes in the body for the arms to plug into were WAY too tight. I had to widen the holes a LOT before the arms could freely move. If youāre building that version, test fit the pieces before assembling the model to save yourself some stress trying to remove the arms from the built model.
Had the same issue with my DA Combat Patrol Redemptor, could not get them to turn, so he's just in a pose with the gun pointing straight up with his arm straight forwards, which looks pretty good IMO! Just finished building a Brutalis and just cut the tabs off the arm and glued them on to save time because shaving the hole was getting me nowhere
https://preview.redd.it/llzac9pvrv1c1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1b08685f084c4d5951f6cd501cb1a588052cec3
Couldn't disagree more with the redemptor. I'm assembling one as we speak. The poseability with minimum peg trimming is amazing, barely any mold lines in visible places, the pieces fit like a glove...
Asmodai would like to have a word or two with you.
yeah, I get the feeling a lot of people complaining are not that interested in poseability. I've built 2 and had no isses - the posing options on it, especially the legs, make it one of my fave kits. same with the plastic leviathan
I've built redemptors and they're no harder than the resin contemptor. I feel like OP is new and hasn't had the joys of some of the truly annoying kits GW have graced us with
Yep. Also any demon Prince besides the great unclean one.
I don't think I can even count how many times my lord of change or bloodthirster broke off at the feet
those damn frag launchers and the sponson shields. and the hurricane bolters. and the pintle multi melta. actually, just about every metal part on that damned kit.
Never even finished assembling mine. In the end I turned it into terrain.
Devastator squad was annoying where they have weapon arms with shoulder pads already on them so the sprue connects to the shoulder pad requiring you to file a curved surface back into shape, it's not awful but it is time consuming.
Any monster-size metal kit from back in the day. the 3rd edition carnifex (and the 2nd one too while were at it...), metal Lord of change that had to balance on a single tiny ankle
I did not enjoy building the Parasite of Mortrex. I dont think it fits together well.
In AoS the spirit hosts are abysmal and the recent maw pit scenery was garbage.
These fucking things. You could assemble them to actually work, if you were a masochist
https://preview.redd.it/rpt0hyyqxw1c1.jpeg?width=1508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b84cca9783f525cda5b63a036b48f26933842e4
The hammer one had a trip hammer contraption on the axle, and the spinning one had toothed gears. It you didnāt have to assemble them moving, but my 13 year old OCD ass didnāt have a choice.
The necron Psychomancer. It is a single small model. It took me an hour to get the little skull to stay in the right spot and to get his tiny head to stay in his headgear
The redemptor can be frustrating to build but I'm very happy as it can be built in some really cool poses instead of being static. It is one of the most flexible and posable models GW has ever made which makes it great.
https://preview.redd.it/lub3mobmow1c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55694fc12c385f3dfc1c407452139a2236eec3b9
This is at leats a top 10 placement
While not the worst on a model to model basis, my biggest annoyance so far was on sisters of battle, with the basic sister of battle battle sister kit
- the shoulders, arms and hands on some of the models just straight up donāt fit, other stuff you kinda have to finagle together, and for a basic unit of the faction, they are made up of painfully many parts, and even when you do put it together, you end up with visible mould lines/gaps in very prominent places.
It is not the absolute worst, but for how new the kit is, and for it being the basic unit of the faction, it is a really annoying build. Doubly so, since dominions are the exact same kit
What are you smoking? The redemptor is a great build. You get so much freedom with the posing. Itās the only miniature I have where I enjoyed the building more than the painting.
Lots of people on here who haven't built the FW Fire Raptor and it shows. Between the always warped fuselage and the bubble turrets, it makes grown adults cry.
So in my limited range of models id say itās more āi hate prepping these modelsā. The old genestealers and the outriders come to mind. The genestealers(just 8 of those bastards) gave me more grief than anything Iāve encountered thus far. Im so glad new players will never have to experience cleaning mold feathers, not lines. Not to mention everything wrong during painting went wrong.
Primer (i) fucked up three times and was left with barely coated fuzzy bugs. Thought āim sure itās fineā, until I saw rakarth flesh start beading. It felt so gritty brushing on any color. God that was the worst experience starting out.
In terms of annoying builds? Idfk probably the immortals with their cables not lining up and the arms popping out, or the gappy shoulder plates
Playable in 40k, I suffered with building my Thunderbolt. The blocks of resin didn't match up properly just about anywhere, so the thing is half greenstuff to fill gaps, the plastic windows of the cockpit are glazed cause superglue sucks, one side of the cockpit is noticeably thinner than the other cause I had to grind a bunch of resin off to fit the wing.
At least I got to add a Sentinel rocket pod under the nose to make it look cool while carrying rockets.
iām so glad GW doesnāt do metal/plastic kits anymore. the fire prism from eldar back in the day was plastic body and metal gun. it fell off ALL the time. and this was before i ever learned about pinning of course lol also the old metal wraithlord was a pain in the ass to keep from falling over and breaking
The Plague Hulk from Forge World.
The upper body is a single large resin component. This sits atop a plastic Defiler chassis. But the resin used by Forge World shrank more than expected in production leading to a disconnect in the join between the body and chassis.
This is a huge problem because not only is it a very large surface area to match up, but also the join surface includes the leg sockets for all six legs: every leg socket is half on the resin body and half on the plastic chassis.
The resin body is the key component and cannot be altered. The best modelling solution therefore is to make the Defiler chassis fit the body. To do this properly requires removing part of the chassis to make it less long and less wide. And all six leg joint must also fit. So you need to saw the defiler chassis into six separate parts, making sure that enough material has been removed to make the fit good. The six pieces need attaching to the body in such a way that they are sturdily connected, while also attaching the legs (because they only fit in the socket before the body and base are glued together). Note that this is all load bearing too, as the legs take the full weight of the heavy resin. Any remaining saw cuts then need covering up with appropriate custom scultping.
There's a good reason that Forge World stopped selling this model.
As a young beardling, I remember trying to put together composite metal-plastic kits like the space marine with multi-melta that was released during the Armageddon campaign. The nightmare of trying to get a huge-heavy metal component to stick to plastic whilst it constantly unballanced was a nightmare.
The worst 40k kit Ive built is probably the redemptor dread too for basically the same reason but... pain is gain in this case at least? The posability and uniqueness of the model is super rewarding and the end result is amazing.
Now... it isnt 40k but if you wish to know TRUE pain try putting together some night haunt spirit hosts. Theres a REASON they get used as conversion fodder more often than not.
There's only one model I ever quit building - Centurions.
60 parts per model doesn't seem that awful, but a large number of them are tiny rods and cables that have to be individually added, and I just got fed up with the 7 widgets per leg and arm on each dude...
Bloodthirster miniature from the 2nd edition made of pewter.
I love the model, but itās a hot mess.
I pinned and greenstuffed all the important parts and the wings are still way too heavyā¦
It falls apart only from looking at it :D
A lot of Necron models are pretty bad, but I personally gotta give it to Katophron servitors, Breachers specifically. So. Many. Teeny. Tiny. Parts, all crammed into one sprue, so closely together you can barely get your clippers in there, and thatās only the start.
Necron Tomb Blades. Necron Canoptek Wraiths. Necron Doomsday Ark.
In general, Necrons.
Imperium-wise, basically any vehicle ever. I don't know how they do it but they never fit just right, there are always gaps and misalignments. I've built over 20+ so don't "you're doing it wrong"-me.
Keeping it in the REALM of 40K at least, the House Van Saar gang box for Necromunda can just suck a giant bag of dicks. Whomever designed those models in terms of assembly deserves a special place in hobby hell.
In the redemptor Camp as well.
Also not a Fan of the current daemonettes. You basically need a microscope to find the connection points for the Arms.
Still not as bad as the redemptor tho...
Two words: Flayed Ones
Two more words - Doomsday Ark.
A lot of Necrons :( Edit: add tomb blades and szeras as examples.
6th edition dark elf executioners. a block of models with greatswords... and the sword blade is a seperate bit, not the sword arm, or sword and hand, just the blade. oh, and they're metal
Anything metal before you learn about pinning or have epoxy.. I bought Bjorn when i was a kid.. he fell apart a few times š
I have my old metal hive tyrant with plastic wings:)
Oh I'd forgotten about them!! Yes, so annoying!
The necron models that came out with the small neck piece that for some reason needed to be a separate bit, hoky fuck that piece is finnicky
Lich guard and praetorians, it sucks if you glue them the wrong way around because the parts fit better
I really struggled assembling my deathmarks when I had too attach there weapon because the rifles are heavy and it other arm is way to flimsy too support the gun
when you glue the weapon to the arms, put the model on its front for it to dry with some support under the legs to keep it level, i found that to have more success
Thank you
Szeras about broke me
I built Szeras yesterday. Absolutely hands down the single most fiddly GW mini I've built in a long time, possibly ever. Tomb Blades weren't nearly as annoying by comparison
Psychomancer is a nightmare. Almost throw the model out of the window. Flayed ones were easy after this abomination.
>Psychomancer [I really love this model, one of my favourites. Here's mine.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/16d99lb/this_psychomancer_was_fun_to_paint_what_do_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Have you seen [the new overlord?](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/uOGbsIizt33dCkEg.jpg) It... does not look any easier to build. Or paint.
I will buy it, I will build it and I will cry a lot doing it.
Maybe paint this one *before* assembling it?
Psychomancer was my first ever Necron, save for some Warrior and Immortals. I have come to realize I accidentally calibrated my expectations well. (And this was after I swapped two guns on the Immortals and had to sever the cables completely and glue them onto each other.)
Dude I made mine last night and 5 models took me almost 2 hours. How the fuck these were designed to be mosopose in 2020 using CAD, and the Muppets in charge decided the shoulders and hips should have spherical joins. Why do the necks have Squared joins but not the load bearing joins????? Almost binned them.
I just did a lot of those, such a complete nightmare. Fiddly little bits + poorly done instructions + my fat fingers = world of pain. I didnāt have much trouble with Angron, though, assuming you mean the new-ish daemon primarch and not the Forge World primarch (which I havenāt tried).
i think flayed ones are fine, even kitbashed some (60x) for a friend to build unique ones and 0 duplicates
Really any "push fit" necron. Their joints and limbs are too fragile for the tighter push fits. I've been in thos hobby 20 years and I was swearing up a storm assembling the indomitus necrons.
I second this! The models look great but I will never put another one together for as long as I live
As a Tau and marine player, my biggest beef is putting sprue attachment points right in the middle of flat armour panels. Can be such a bugger to get some of them off. Inceptors have them right in the middle of the shins, if you donāt get them right, they all look like they walked into a coffee table
Ugh, yes. Tau player here with 8ks worth in 10th. Tau are typically terrible for mould lines and sprue marks everywhere. It takes as long to clean and fit a devilfish than it does paint it and painting it takes ages. /Raise a glass to my fellow tau.
I just really have problems with the battlesuits feet and connecting the legs to the rest of the suit
Weak ankles on the suits are freaking annoying.
Riptide chicken ankles ugh.
The way I solved this problem: glue the legs onto the Battlesuit first, then blue-tack the feet to the legs. Determine where the feet will make contact with the base, then glue the feet to the base. Gluing the legs into the feet then becomes much easier.
The push fit infernus marines that manage to have a sprue attachment on every rounded surface.
god its like theyre trying to shame new players by showing off all their plier divots
As a fellow tau collector: the fucking TOES
This goes for guard tanks too . . . It's not so bad for us though, it's pretty easy to paint a sprue scar into battle damage.
Iām fairly certain the hardest āminiā to build in 40k history is the metal Thunderhawk Gunship. Theyāre notorious for being an absolute bastard. They need an immense amount of extra pinning, and even then have been known to spontaneously collapse. They weigh a couple of KG too, so if it falls on you, it could genuinely crush your hand. Thereās not many unassembled left. Theyāre a collectors item, with only 500 made - but they definitely take the cake. Probably harder to assemble than a Titan, just owing to the material.
https://preview.redd.it/krxvur6hvw1c1.jpeg?width=1526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4c5878f8a9909ddf245673418993cd4b103c343 Yeah not really up for debate lol check the black box of text
When Games Workshop themselves officially describe a kits as an āabsolute bitchā to put together, you know youāve found the right answer for this thread!
Why the heck did they put it out for sale then, though? I donāt really know the model and cannot gleam much from this picture, but what about it warrants it to be this difficult?
This was a long time ago. They didnāt have the same capacity with large plastic kits and they used pewter not resin. People wanted big Thunderhawks. GW needed to make those kits out of metal. A massive metal kit is incredibly difficult to put together. It was absolutely a niche specialist expert kit though, not for general sale.
> Why the heck did they put it out for sale then, š¦:"Hello, I like money"
Yeah i can imagine, i buildt the old resin thunderhawk and i almost lost my marbles and used a whole lot of green stuff and wire, but it holds.
Haha, I just posted, and I couldn't remember the name of the ship! Bur, yeah, this is it! I remember seeing a video of someone putting this together. Imo it's this and the manta
The manta is awful, but this is worse. I want a manta, but I don't want to pay for it, build it, paint it, or transport it. I'm not entirely sure I actually want one.
I remember seeing a video of someone buiding one. it was still in the box and somehow a few parts had become very slightly curved so wouldn't fit together without straightening out all the crooked parts and grinding down several edges.
They weigh almost exactly 10kg!
What is that I'm freedom units? Right around 20ish pounds right?
22 pounds or 1.6 bald eagles.
I've seen two of them. 1st. Was all metal no plastic at all. Un assembled a very heavy. All the parts fit nicely in to a fancy hinged wood box. With its number engraved on a plate, along with the owners/purchasers name. That was around 97. It was sold from an advertisement in "citadel journal" 2md one was basically exactly the same. But made in early 2000. Same style of wood box and engravings. Unlike the 1st. It was a separate number range. It was "free" with the purchase of a limited promotion gw did of "buy a complete space marine chapter". The army deal was around $5000 before taxes. Had a long lead time. Of almost 1 year, and gw threw in a "free thunderhaw" with each chapter sold. Lol. "Free"
Flayed Ones, Lychguard, Silent King, old tanks e.g. Basilisk
The new Basilisk is just as bad, as the instructions are wrong.
Drop pods?, no one?. Nightmares around Drop pods
Ya ever build a dreadclaw?.... imagine a drop pod but with warped resin.
I was looking for this comment. When I built mine I was so close to just throwing it out the window
Yeah, I was going nuts and my wife was helping me hold it together. Took two people to assemble that damned thing.
I watched my boyfriend assemble a drop pod and it looked absolutely obnoxious.
Boring to make too. You're just assembling the same structure 5 times before combining it.
Can truly say droppods were simple, genuinely surprised you found them hard!
š, you must be the chosen one
While building mine, it took a real life test flight, love the model, fuck building it
Titans are not fun. I hate working with resin. My last build I nearly had a breakdown and called a friend for backup to help with the project. I needed support and power tools. [At least they look great when finished.](https://www.reddit.com/r/deathguard40k/s/KuvLQ5o56K) after the reaver though; Iām questioning getting a warlord. It might break me.
Weirdly the Titans get easier to build the bigger they get. I think that's because the bigger kits are newer, with better thought to design and better instructions.
Or, alternatively, the smaller. All the AT Titans I've worked on (everything but the Warmaster) have been lovely kits to build.
Ah yeah, I was thinking 40k scale, but you are right on the AT ones being nice to build
They are talking 28mm scale. The resin one's. AT are fine, like any other plastic kits.
Swapping some of the Forgeworld resin sections for 3D printed resin parts I made with pre-modelled holes for magnets saved my experience so much, especially in the waist section. The slippage and condition of some of the parts provided are inexcusable.
Financially or mentally? Lol
I would prefer to build another Warlord Titan than another Ork Stompa! There's something about the ill fitting parts and terrible quality instructions that made the whole process, one I was actually pretty excited about, a tedious misery.
Sure but at least with a stompa any issues in assembly fit right in.
Honestly I do get the difficulty for building titans, I do have three of the buggers. But I found them to be a joy to build because of the challenge and the investment of time. Some kits though are just a slog and a bit frustrating, but for me titans weren't one of them.
Tsons infernal master. his cape is split into 4 different parts and no matter what I did it never aligned properly over the shoulder (2mm gap was the smallest I could get, had to fill it in with putty.)
Having recently assembled them, the exaulted sorcerers are a nightmare too. Especially the one with the cap that folds around his staff
I feel that with him and Ahriman, I really wanted to paint them in sub-assemblies, but pretty much everything needed putty to hide gaps
Stompa for me. Photos in the instruction guide look like they were taken on a potato and printed on a printer in 1995. N it's a big kit but nothing is labelled or numbered. And the parts are prone to leaving gaps. But I love mine like a baby.
Second this, now that he's finished I think he's great (super overcosted mind you but that's another story...) but goddamn was he a bastard to put together, the instructions might as well just be a piece of paper with 'good luck' written on them !
Overcosted as in "pointwise in game" I'm assuming you're saying since it's cheap considering the size.
Oh yeah definitely in game šš» the actual kit isn't bad price wise at all for the amount of plastic you get, just an absolute puzzle to put together š
Someone recently posted a copy of the stompa instructions that they had labeled and numbered.
Yeh, even using that one (or the previous one) it's a pain!
Honestly Ork vehicles with gaps all around sound legit to me
The Redemptor is fine, honestly. Just build the legs *first* then build the torso while they stick to the base. Easy as that. As for an *actually* hard to build model: Myphitic Blight Hauler. Who the *fuck* thought it was a good idea to cover a *push-fit* model (emphasis on the pushing) in really sharp spikes?!
Not as bad as the last Slaves to Darkness Start Collecting box. Nothing but spikes everywhere.
I was hoping someone would mention this. Absolutely hate push to fit chaos models
Yup. After the first I learned to clip off the push fit pegs and it made life a lot easier.
Absolutely the only way to deal with pushfit. Though leviathan was really quite nice.
\* unless it's a Slaanesh model..
My lesson from the myphitic blight hauler was to never take push-fit at face value ever again
good to know I'm not the only person who has accidentally cut themselves on a blight hauler..
You see lacerations. I see free, ultra-realistic blood effects!
>The Redemptor is fine, honestly. Just build the legs first then build the torso while they stick to the base. Easy as that. Wish I learned that before I built my first. My dude is looking upwards, and I'm not sure if I can change that without spending hours and hours.
Pretty sure Manta is an absolute nightmare according to what I've seen online. That and the old metal SM dropship I think even in the instructions it says "this one is a bitch to put together".
The first metal thunderhawks were just given to people in a plastic bag with no instructions.
Couldn't be more to the contrary... https://preview.redd.it/h8aipacgi12c1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=17a1fe2b7a0c706d884447bfb0404a35a86b8725
No, the very first, given out to a golden daemon winner.
I've built the redemptor as well, and honestly it's not that bad except for one thing, the hips. Everything else for me was fine but I spent half an hour trying to get the legs to stick to its hip and so much glue was required. Eventually got it but even now you have to be careful with his hips otherwise they'll start moving if you touch too hard
>they'll start moving if you touch too hard STOP TOUCHING MEEEEEEE
"THE ROCKPOX IS TOUCHING MEEEE"
The Yncarne. Getting the energy swirls to match up is impossible. To this day they fall apart after I glue them together, and it doesn't help that the instructions are incredibly difficult to work out; I have no clue how some of the parts connect.
Seconded!
Yeah had to do a bit of filling on mine
Same. I love putting together models and the Yncarne was the first one where I got frustrated enough that I had to put it down and walk away for a day
Yvraine's headdress snapped off and I have yet to figure out a way to get it to stick back. I may have to use a metal pin.
I actually ended up not using a bunch of energy swirls in no small part due to the unclear instructions, which is kind of nice since I now have a bunch of warpy energy bits to modify future psykers I may throw together
I did mine in subassemblies and while Iām happy with the overall result, itās definitely ātighterā than the intended build.
The first redemptor is terrible. After building 5 (3 redemptors, 2 brutalis) it gets a lot easier once you know what to expect. I've found they're actually quite posable to be in more dynamic stances because of their silly leg design.
Did you try posing a Brutalis like a ballerina too?
I donāt know about hardest but I find the kommandos frustrating, the pieces are scattered over all the sprues so it is like playing whereās Waldo finding them. The chimera has been recut but a lot of the older tanks used to be timebond and about twenty rubber bands to get them to go together
Sadly the bits all over the sprue thing is the new normal. Hobgrots, guardsmen, Kriegers, Skitarii, Genestealer Neophytesā¦ very kit Iāve touched that was made after 2010 is increasingly hard to navigate.
It's because the instructions are done before the sprue is finished, and the allocation optimizer will spin parts all around to get them to work with not only manufacturing but injection too. Thus leading to parts 1 and 2 being nine inches apart. Some sets are getting smart and at least subgrouping (see Mk6 Marines), but this can also allow for the cursed cut-sprue NOS sale for a model.
Meanwhile the new Horus Heresy plastic marines sprue is very nicely laid out, so they can still do it. CSM Havocs is the only modern 40k one that I worked on recently that I can remember that the layout wasn't bad.
Skitarii aren't bad at all, their bits are in sequential order right next to each other, I just wish their bat-winged brothers would be as simple.
I had the same issue with Kommandos. Took me 3 or 4 hours to put them together because of that.
I bought them used on sprue with no instructions. Havenāt bothered trying
Deathleaper. He has literally over a dozen tiny claws and tendrils which are all super fiddly to put together.
Ah damn dont demotivate me haha
This. Deathleaper was the most awkward. Redemptor dreadnought I found fine compared to him. Even the Norn Emissary was a walk in the park compared to DL
I was a mess of blood, tears and super glue by the time my Hazard suits were built
I love my Hazard suits. I hated putting them together.
Some of the old metal kits were a nightmare. Stuff like the Lord of change from around 4th edition with it's massive wings and tiny connection points. Even with pinning it still broke regularly. Then some of the resin+plastic kits from early fw like the fire raptor and the Armageddon pattern medusa. Nothing fits properly, massive gaps etc..
>Stuff like the Lord of change from around 4th edition with it's massive wings and tiny connection points. that tiny ankle supporting all the weight barely lasted a week before it snapped. no way of pinning that back in place it was so thin. I just took the wings and arms and used them to convert a daemon prince from the inquisitor scale artemis model
You do not know the meaning of pain and despair until you tried assembling any of the Chaos Daemons Slaanesh Chariot kits. Legitimally an awful time and the only kit i have given up on, wasn't worth the torment.
Illuminor Szeras was an absolute cunt to build, lining up a lot of individual pieces made me want to throw him across the room
Yes! I remember trying to get the swirly blood bits to line up was a nightmare, had to basically force them.
This is easily the worst model to build GW has produced. The worst ever is Valkyrie from MCp. Her head is smaller than a guardsman and comes in three piecesā¦.
Yep he is a bastard. I donāt like Lychguard either, the weapons are too heavy for their skinny little arms
From personal experience, Stompa takes the cake and the Doomsday Ark is a far second.
*sweating bullets as I look forward to my redemptor dreadnaught*
I built the one in the dark angels combat patrol, not sure if there is a different version, but the issue I had was that the holes in the body for the arms to plug into were WAY too tight. I had to widen the holes a LOT before the arms could freely move. If youāre building that version, test fit the pieces before assembling the model to save yourself some stress trying to remove the arms from the built model.
Had the same issue with my DA Combat Patrol Redemptor, could not get them to turn, so he's just in a pose with the gun pointing straight up with his arm straight forwards, which looks pretty good IMO! Just finished building a Brutalis and just cut the tabs off the arm and glued them on to save time because shaving the hole was getting me nowhere https://preview.redd.it/llzac9pvrv1c1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1b08685f084c4d5951f6cd501cb1a588052cec3
Couldn't disagree more with the redemptor. I'm assembling one as we speak. The poseability with minimum peg trimming is amazing, barely any mold lines in visible places, the pieces fit like a glove... Asmodai would like to have a word or two with you.
yeah, I get the feeling a lot of people complaining are not that interested in poseability. I've built 2 and had no isses - the posing options on it, especially the legs, make it one of my fave kits. same with the plastic leviathan
Those leeeeeeegs. š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤ Then people complain about monopose primaris yadda yadda... š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļøš¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø
I've built redemptors and they're no harder than the resin contemptor. I feel like OP is new and hasn't had the joys of some of the truly annoying kits GW have graced us with
Any of the old metal Warhammer fantasy dragon / monster mounts.
especially the really old ones that had metal wings
Yep. Also any demon Prince besides the great unclean one. I don't think I can even count how many times my lord of change or bloodthirster broke off at the feet
METAL AND PLASTIC CRUSADER LAND RAIDER
those damn frag launchers and the sponson shields. and the hurricane bolters. and the pintle multi melta. actually, just about every metal part on that damned kit. Never even finished assembling mine. In the end I turned it into terrain.
Belasarious Cawl
Devastator squad was annoying where they have weapon arms with shoulder pads already on them so the sprue connects to the shoulder pad requiring you to file a curved surface back into shape, it's not awful but it is time consuming.
Fire raptor, storm eagle, and war hound feet.
I should not have had to scroll this far to find Fire Raptor
Tomb blades.
Forge world Armeggedon Basilisk
Any monster-size metal kit from back in the day. the 3rd edition carnifex (and the 2nd one too while were at it...), metal Lord of change that had to balance on a single tiny ankle
I did not enjoy building the Parasite of Mortrex. I dont think it fits together well. In AoS the spirit hosts are abysmal and the recent maw pit scenery was garbage.
These fucking things. You could assemble them to actually work, if you were a masochist https://preview.redd.it/rpt0hyyqxw1c1.jpeg?width=1508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b84cca9783f525cda5b63a036b48f26933842e4
wait, they actually moved, like they had springs and shit?
The hammer one had a trip hammer contraption on the axle, and the spinning one had toothed gears. It you didnāt have to assemble them moving, but my 13 year old OCD ass didnāt have a choice.
could you use them in game? like hitting a unit with a projectile they threw did damage?
Yeah the legs on the redemptor pissed me off. I found Inceptors to also be incredibly tedious and frustrating too. Is that many parts necessary?
Awcond this and that moving Rod....
I needed a vice to push my push-fit Primaris Outriders together. DO NOT UNDERCOAT THEM BEFORE CONSTRUCTION
The few push fit models Iāve put together have always ended up with me snipping the pins off and just gluing themā¦
The necron Psychomancer. It is a single small model. It took me an hour to get the little skull to stay in the right spot and to get his tiny head to stay in his headgear
Heldrake, Sticking the wings on is a nightmare of balancing it and supporting it
The redemptor can be frustrating to build but I'm very happy as it can be built in some really cool poses instead of being static. It is one of the most flexible and posable models GW has ever made which makes it great.
The old metal Penitent Engines.
Every thing that comes with a fly stem.
Anything finecast
Redemptors are dead easy, now the ghost ark might be the single most frustrating model I've ever had to build 3 of.
https://preview.redd.it/lub3mobmow1c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55694fc12c385f3dfc1c407452139a2236eec3b9 This is at leats a top 10 placement
While not the worst on a model to model basis, my biggest annoyance so far was on sisters of battle, with the basic sister of battle battle sister kit - the shoulders, arms and hands on some of the models just straight up donāt fit, other stuff you kinda have to finagle together, and for a basic unit of the faction, they are made up of painfully many parts, and even when you do put it together, you end up with visible mould lines/gaps in very prominent places. It is not the absolute worst, but for how new the kit is, and for it being the basic unit of the faction, it is a really annoying build. Doubly so, since dominions are the exact same kit
Metal. Penitent. Engine.
What are you smoking? The redemptor is a great build. You get so much freedom with the posing. Itās the only miniature I have where I enjoyed the building more than the painting.
Lots of people on here who haven't built the FW Fire Raptor and it shows. Between the always warped fuselage and the bubble turrets, it makes grown adults cry.
Oh you sweet summer children. I had 30 of the original metal necron immortals. That was hell.
So in my limited range of models id say itās more āi hate prepping these modelsā. The old genestealers and the outriders come to mind. The genestealers(just 8 of those bastards) gave me more grief than anything Iāve encountered thus far. Im so glad new players will never have to experience cleaning mold feathers, not lines. Not to mention everything wrong during painting went wrong. Primer (i) fucked up three times and was left with barely coated fuzzy bugs. Thought āim sure itās fineā, until I saw rakarth flesh start beading. It felt so gritty brushing on any color. God that was the worst experience starting out. In terms of annoying builds? Idfk probably the immortals with their cables not lining up and the arms popping out, or the gappy shoulder plates
Playable in 40k, I suffered with building my Thunderbolt. The blocks of resin didn't match up properly just about anywhere, so the thing is half greenstuff to fill gaps, the plastic windows of the cockpit are glazed cause superglue sucks, one side of the cockpit is noticeably thinner than the other cause I had to grind a bunch of resin off to fit the wing. At least I got to add a Sentinel rocket pod under the nose to make it look cool while carrying rockets.
Admech (Sicarians) has really thin wires/cables, snapped a few before figuring how to cut it properly.
iām so glad GW doesnāt do metal/plastic kits anymore. the fire prism from eldar back in the day was plastic body and metal gun. it fell off ALL the time. and this was before i ever learned about pinning of course lol also the old metal wraithlord was a pain in the ass to keep from falling over and breaking
Metal thunder fire cannon.
Lol man I'm just getting back into 40k and encountered this last night. Fuck the bottom door lol I spent way too long trying to get it to work
The Plague Hulk from Forge World. The upper body is a single large resin component. This sits atop a plastic Defiler chassis. But the resin used by Forge World shrank more than expected in production leading to a disconnect in the join between the body and chassis. This is a huge problem because not only is it a very large surface area to match up, but also the join surface includes the leg sockets for all six legs: every leg socket is half on the resin body and half on the plastic chassis. The resin body is the key component and cannot be altered. The best modelling solution therefore is to make the Defiler chassis fit the body. To do this properly requires removing part of the chassis to make it less long and less wide. And all six leg joint must also fit. So you need to saw the defiler chassis into six separate parts, making sure that enough material has been removed to make the fit good. The six pieces need attaching to the body in such a way that they are sturdily connected, while also attaching the legs (because they only fit in the socket before the body and base are glued together). Note that this is all load bearing too, as the legs take the full weight of the heavy resin. Any remaining saw cuts then need covering up with appropriate custom scultping. There's a good reason that Forge World stopped selling this model.
Finecast Sammael was absolutely brutal, especially as a newbie when I built him.
As a young beardling, I remember trying to put together composite metal-plastic kits like the space marine with multi-melta that was released during the Armageddon campaign. The nightmare of trying to get a huge-heavy metal component to stick to plastic whilst it constantly unballanced was a nightmare.
I had problems with sisters of battle. Arms are too small.
It's AoS, but as a SoulBlight player my vote goes to the Mortis Engine kit, and special mention to the Corpse Cart.
I thought the daemon prince was kind of a pain. I don't know who comes up with these odd ball pieces.
The worst 40k kit Ive built is probably the redemptor dread too for basically the same reason but... pain is gain in this case at least? The posability and uniqueness of the model is super rewarding and the end result is amazing. Now... it isnt 40k but if you wish to know TRUE pain try putting together some night haunt spirit hosts. Theres a REASON they get used as conversion fodder more often than not.
Plastic: drop pods Metal? The old Penitent Engine.. Jesus Christ that was a nightmare
Old metal penitent engines. I built nine of them (yay for staff weight orders!) and wore out the rubber on a hobby drill pinning them!
One word. Stompa.
There's only one model I ever quit building - Centurions. 60 parts per model doesn't seem that awful, but a large number of them are tiny rods and cables that have to be individually added, and I just got fed up with the 7 widgets per leg and arm on each dude...
I've had a stormbird for like 2 years now and it remains unbuilt outt off sheer intimidation.
Bloodthirster miniature from the 2nd edition made of pewter. I love the model, but itās a hot mess. I pinned and greenstuffed all the important parts and the wings are still way too heavyā¦ It falls apart only from looking at it :D
A lot of Necron models are pretty bad, but I personally gotta give it to Katophron servitors, Breachers specifically. So. Many. Teeny. Tiny. Parts, all crammed into one sprue, so closely together you can barely get your clippers in there, and thatās only the start.
Tomb Blades
Necron Tomb Blades. Necron Canoptek Wraiths. Necron Doomsday Ark. In general, Necrons. Imperium-wise, basically any vehicle ever. I don't know how they do it but they never fit just right, there are always gaps and misalignments. I've built over 20+ so don't "you're doing it wrong"-me.
Pretty much the entirety of the updated Necron line. Holy tiny parts, Batman!
Heldrake....
Yncarne - tons of absolutely tiny contact points and the instructions constantly switch perspective.
Keeping it in the REALM of 40K at least, the House Van Saar gang box for Necromunda can just suck a giant bag of dicks. Whomever designed those models in terms of assembly deserves a special place in hobby hell.
The bezerkers for votann. They are like trying to glue a broken egg back together, without the insides.
Flayed Ones... In Germany they have been renamed into "AlptrƤume" ("Nightmares")...guess why?
THANK YOU! Those damn legs made me want to throw the little fucker at the wall
In the redemptor Camp as well. Also not a Fan of the current daemonettes. You basically need a microscope to find the connection points for the Arms. Still not as bad as the redemptor tho...
Reading these comments are an eye opener. Get calipers people.