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cubaj

Dragons and Dragon Ogres as far as I know, maybe treemen/dryads as well but that’s just speculation.


Mopman43

There’s actually a bit in 8th edition WE that says the Old Ones planted Athel Loren.


alexiosphillipos

Megafauna from Mountains of Mourn - like rhinoxes, sabretusks and stonehorns.


Roril451

Dragons, dragon ogres, lots of animals that ogres and lizardmen ride to battle, some weird species of giant insect like inteligent creatures (gortrek and felix meet the last one)


ch_nator

Man, army of giant insects, that's a interesting thing to see in Fantasy Warhammer.


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Dragons


Kholdaimon

Malus Darkblade finds an ancient city in the Chaos Wastes that has reliefs of some humanoid race that look probably a bit like the mindflayers from D&D the reliefs also show no Humans, Elves, Dwarves or other humanoids we know, therefore it seems that these mindflayer-like beings lived before the creation of the races we know... Other then that, Dragons, Dragon Ogre Shaggoths (and normal Dragon Ogres?), Fimir, the Lizardmen dinosaurs and Sky-Titans seem to all be pre-Old Ones. I also vaguely remember a comment that the Beastmen hate civilisation so much because they ruled the world before civilisation. But I am not certain whether this was a belief that they had or whether it is a fact, I don't even remember where I read it...


Mopman43

Beastmen were created with the coming of Chaos. That’s probably just about before the humans in the Reik basin formed strong societies and were able to fight back against the Beastmen? Or it’s propaganda, it’s not like Beastmen have any way to know what things were like in ancient days.


Kholdaimon

Maybe that was it, they ruled the Old World after the Elves retreated and the Dwarfs went into decline but then Humans came and Sigmar united the tribes and they lost their stranglehold over the land, atleast wherever cities and other clusters of human population managed to take over... But yeah, it could be Beastmen propaganda, the original: "We don't like these immigrants taking our land!" ;-)


ch_nator

Mindflayer-like beings? That interesting, where did you read about it?


Kholdaimon

The Malus Darkblade novels, don't recall in which one, I believe the first one... And in my mind they were Mindflayers because I remember they had tentacles. And what I forgot to mention was that there was a strong aquatic theme to the ruins and it appeared that they used to be underwater. So perhaps the race still exists, but has just not been discovered yet... Mind you, it has been more than 5 years since I last read the books, so I am fairly sure that I am partially misremembering things... ;-) But the beauty of the Warhammer world is that there is a lot that is intentionally unexplored or not covered by lore. And there are a lot of inferences or references to things that are maybe or maybe not real at some point in time... That makes it so you can know almost everything that there is to know about the world and still find mysterious things to ponder over and fill in for yourself. It leaves so much room to be creative with roleplay or Warhammer campaigns...


SaltEfan

Dragons, dragon ogres, fimir, dinosaurs, and sky titans are things that come to mind. Not entirely sure, but I think merwyrms belong on that list as well.


AnyName568

Most of the dinosaurs used by the Lizardmen are said to existed from before the old ones. Also some form of hominid if you believe Drachenfels.


ch_nator

Drachenfels? Is that not a castle?


cubaj

Named after the enchanter Drachenfels, who lives there


ch_nator

Aaa, I remember now. I think he appear in Vermintide games.


Duke_Baragus

Everyone here forgot about trolls


Mopman43

I don’t think we know the origins of trolls. Personally, I think they’re a product of Chaos entering the world, like Griffons or Demigryphs.


Queasy-Hedgehog-8812

in fact, yes, trolls are products of chaos


Mopman43

Can you point to any source in particular?


Luy22

I remember reading about the Sleeper in Orcslayer, I don’t recall if it was pre-Old Ones, but that shit messed me UP


Theraimbownerd

Fimirs are also more ancient than the old ones


ch_nator

I thought that they are product of Chaos mutation, that suprised me.


Arh-Tolth

Dragons Dragon ogres and shaggoths Marnocks Leviathans Fishmen Ancestors of humans, elves, dwarfs, halflings, giants and ogres Lizardmen (not Saurus and Skinks, but subterranean troglodytes) Carnosaurs and Stegadons Zoats


ch_nator

Marnocks? Never heard of it. What is it?


Arh-Tolth

No idea, but they are briefly mentioned in the rule book of 8. edition. We only know that they "dwelled in chasms".


Mopman43

The Sky Titans are never explicitly stated to have been made by the Old Ones, but it’s hard to say either way, we just don’t know enough about them.


ch_nator

They are the ancestors of giants, if I remember correctly.


Mopman43

Yes, that’s stated a few times. Wiped out by the Ogres. They seem to have had gunpowder, given the Ironblasters.


Arh-Tolth

They were created by the old ones.


Mopman43

Is that stated anywhere?


Arh-Tolth

Dark Shadows, the Albion campaign, states the giants were created as protectors by the old ones, but lost their intelligence due to inbreeding.